Another person to check with is Don McCort. I think he was the last crewchief who maintained 632. Sorry about that, I think I'm suffering from CRS!!!
USA - Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 12:42:57 (MDT)
Kim I would like to hear from you if you knew 632. I will email you pictures of her today as she flies over Heck Park in Monroe, Mi. I am still searching for more info on her. Have a picture of her taken in Pleiku with someone sleeping under her. Would like to know who it is and the story. We have the picture in our Museum at Heck and wouild like to tell visitors more about it. Don
Don Reed <>
Temperance, Mi USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 16:23:58 (MDT)
I am now in Green Bay for two weeks. Wow Bill, thats really great.
USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 16:01:53 (MDT)
Hey Flight - well, back from another teaching gig in CA - but leave again in 5 days for another! Yuck! 08 REUNION NEWS: The 2008 VHCMA reunion will be in St. Louis, Missouri at the Crown Plaza St. Louis Airport Hotel June 18-22. Tom got us great rates at a nice place that is very Veteran friendly! The website has the details!! Let's make this our biggest attended reunion yet!!! A STAR IS BORN: PBS is making a documentary on the "We Were Soldiers" story and the actual event. They interviewed Senior ROTC cadets for parts and my son Jim got the part of Specialist Galen Bungum who was part of the "Lost Platoon" in the movie. How kewl is that!!!!! Always a Brother - Bill
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 15:46:54 (MDT)
Thanks for the info Kim. I forwarded the INFO . I’ll try to get him to send a pix. You guys are great... Frenchie
SAV, USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 15:05:16 (MDT)
Hi Robbie!!.. Good to see you on.. About all I can tell you about Yahoo groups and how to get there is.. Go to - YAHOO.COM and click on GROUPS on the left side of their page. I have an email address and also am a member of about 8 of their "groups' so I get right into it. You may have to sign up/join but it has been a while since I had to do that and don't recall the system. Anyway,it is free... I think the name of the group you will be looking for is 129THAHC. I hope tha helps.. If not, ring my bell again and we will have another look.. Take care.. C Ya.. Kal...>>> And by the way, I usually post my email address on my messages, look at the line below my name...>>>
Kal bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 19:35:03 (MDT)
Frenchie, 632 was in the cobras during most of 71. I flew as gunner on her a few times. Wes Griffith was her crewchief for a good part of the year, after which Marty Martinez took over. I imagine that all the pilots of that time ( Alemaster, Baron, Innkeeper in paricular) flew her. I remember her in a heavy configuration.
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 17:28:55 (MDT)
hi alvis what type computer do you have.i got a lot of spare parts, if i can be of help let me know donnie
donnie purvis <>
linwood, nc USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 17:07:38 (MDT)
Sent letters to congressman Marsha Blackburn in Tennessee this morning-----Received response of intent to review and reply with directions and actions taken.-----Will see---------
Gary Woodward
Memphis, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 17:05:25 (MDT)
Kal, it’s Robbie. I was wondering what this is and how do I get to it? (Yahoo groups on the 129th page) I don’t seem to have your email address either. I must have overlooked it when I switched computers from the $80 special I had to the one my Brother left me. His is better, but doesn’t have a real fast processor. Not that I need it with a dialup hookup. Anyway, I want to do my part and send a letter to my congressman. I already have Ron’s letter. thanks in advance……….Rob "" of course the Quotes and at are not in the email add.
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 17:00:45 (MDT)
Was cruising the Net and found this. Hope every one is fine. Not to bad myself…Will send letters to request the “fly in” to everybody that I than think of that l help. Hi Bill & Rick There is a helicopter in our Memorial Park (UH1 66-00632). I’m researching her history. We know the craft saw Vietnam service with 134th AHC, 57th AHC, and 129th AHC, flying 1,832 hours in the skies over Nam, including flights over Hamburger Hill, extensive action during Tet, around An Khe, and most of II Corps. I want to continue this research and tell the story of this helicopter. Any vets out there who piloted or flew in this chopper? Anybody recall any stories, incidents, events, or have photos? Contact: Don Reed, 734-847-1767;
Bill French <>
Sav, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 13:28:54 (MDT)
sent out my letter today to congressman jerry weller from illinois. hope we get permission
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 12:07:52 (MDT)
I submitted my letter to AZ senator John McCain this morning via his website.
Susan E
AZ USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 09:59:14 (MDT)
Ya Fred, that where they are at.. the only 2 files on the page.. They are both TXT files and if anyone need them as MS Word files just email me. L8r.. Kal..>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 09:33:33 (MDT)
Kal,if you posted in the yahoo site, thats whats its for buddy.
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 21:39:20 (MDT)
Hey gang.. I uploaded a copy of Ron Paye's congressman's letter that you will need to print and send along with the letter I wrote and YOU MODIFY. Ron, or anyone else that sees a problem with this being posted, let me know and I will remove/alter it/them.. Love and Brotherhood!!.. Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 19:51:51 (MDT)
alex, i could not open the "letter" part of the e-mail you sent me.
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 19:49:34 (MDT)
Flight, I have gotten the bugs out of my computer and can now send any info I now have to include letters I have sent to DC. If anyone wants I will send them to you but they take a lot of space and I don't want to over load anyone's computer. The main problem we now have is that the aircraft is registered in a foreign country. The parks dept. is afraid to set a precedent as in the future they would have a hard time turning down a request from a US registered chopper if requested. I can see where this would be a "bag of worms."We have people in high places attempting to help us with this matter and the more pressure we can put on the parks the better. This is where your congressman and/or senators would help. If we can not get the aircraft near The Wall we may have to go back to the shipping company and see if they will still ship the 509. The original request was we would land the 509 near The Wall. There is also a five mile special restricted area around the White House. This will require special clearance but I think we can work around this with help from DC. As far as towing or trailering the aircraft in, we can not remove any part of the mask or Phil would have to get the aircraft recertified. We will have about five hours flight time to use once the 509 arrives in the USA. It looks like an uphill battle and a long shot, but what the heck. They aren't shooting real bullets. If anyone has any questions or suggestions please ask. Love and Brotherhood
Ron Paye
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 14:54:03 (MDT)
OK folks, I posted my file on Yahoo groups on the 129th page. It is a text file in the FILES area of our page. It appeard to need to be properly formatted as well as properly edited as I wrote it as a Word file and seeing as I doubt that everyone isn't using Word as their processor I sent it as a TXT file. Just remember to change the names, addresses and other parts as necessary. L8r... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) emaildot com>
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 14:21:46 (MDT)
kal. post it on the yahoo page so i can get one off also. paul
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 13:29:15 (MDT)
Flight: I have forwarded a letter that Ron's congressman sent to DC. I have out dated emails on alot of you. Email me at And I can froward Ron's letter to you. Time is getting short.I would like to thank the 129th family for the help. I found out that Ron and Phil started planning this in Orlando. He didn't want to say anything until they hada final. but, running into alot of red tape. I told him we can give all the support him and Phil needs. So, email all your veteran friends the more the better. Ron mention he had a letter he wrote. If he sends it to me I will pass it along to every email I have. Always A Brother!!
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 12:18:51 (MDT)
Fellow 129th members... My letter has been writen and delivered to my Congressman. I, not being a great, or even good, writer didn't have to much of a problem getting my request accross to them, thanks to Ron Paye's letter whick was enclosed. If anyone wants to see my letter, I will post a copy of in on the 129th Yahoo group page, providing there is a request for it, and you can use it as a base for your own letter. Have a great day... C U L8r... Kal 67/68...>>>
Kal Bergstyrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 11:09:40 (MDT)
Just a quick hello to all--------------If anyone is interested--there is an organization that will begin a worthy progran Nov-12th-You can buy TWO (xo) laptops for $399.00-------One will be sent to a child in need and one to you...Go to more info and enter donate section in upper right hand corner for details.--------------Looks like a fair deal to me and I plan to get a backup laptop anyway.----------------Best to all-Gary--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron--the 129th document opens with microsoft word..
Gary Woodward
Memphis, USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 09:19:57 (MDT)
Hi Alvis there acomputer place it called I have a video card that fits some pc & you can hook it to a tv & show picture on tv & you can have it ok but it got to have a long place to put it in. Art
Arthur Foster <>
Hogansville , GA. USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 08:40:13 (MDT)
opps. if not for that, I would go buy a replacement today.
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 06:02:47 (MDT)
thanks for the kind thoughts Author, But i will be leaving friday for two weeks..thats why I will be down so long.I have to go for some training in Green Bay.
USA - Wednesday, September 26, 2007 at 06:01:32 (MDT)
This bum kammer he got to be talking throw his a$$ because his mouth know better. well let him go over there & let him try to do somthing & when the first round hit clouse to him he will need a dipper change & Bill your SON is a good MAN.
Arthur Foster <>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 22:30:58 (MDT)
Hi Brother how about geting some cash from every one & get Alvis one I will give to it there a bunch of us & we could get a new one for him & I know it would be a early or late BIRTHDAY gift & ALVIS DONT SAY NO I know that we could do it for them & I know he due it for us so how about it GOOD THING to help some one out OK Art & Glenda
Arthur Foster <>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 21:59:12 (MDT)
i think with the lowboy effort that to many special permits would be required and to many power lines in the way.
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 20:21:06 (MDT)
Bill you did a good job raising that one and you should be proud of him. I talked to a friend in Washington last night who deals with international trade, he had another thought to our problem. Suggested that we could get the 509 close to the no fly zone and low boy it into the park area. Again he said this is going to be a big deal and knows finding a spot to park it would be a trick too. It does sound like an opinion and I am sure if the bird is there we will be to move it around on the ground. I am back on my cain now at least.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 17:44:02 (MDT)
thanks for the offers guys but am letting the dust settle down around here. As I am going to be in Green Bay for 2 not in a, I am never in a hurry. I do need to drive down and see Ron..find out whats going on with the 509. I was kinda left out of the loop on this one.
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 16:04:03 (MDT)
Hey Fred.. I have an old 400 MHZ PC laying around here that you are welcome to if you want it. It has a modem in it but no Eithernet card, so it will only do dialup as it is, but you could put one in it if you wanted to. It worked when I took it off line but I can't say what it does right now..except it is doing a good job of holding the floor down and taking up space.. Come get it if you want it.. C U L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 12:59:25 (MDT)
Alvis, I realize that you're presently unemployed, but, I bought a new "hard drive" at Office Max for about $70 and installation discs from HP for $15.....I'm cruisin' right along again. Good luck. Did you get the photos from Kokomo that I sent you? Gale
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 11:07:26 (MDT)
I am going to be down longer than hoped. Pc fixer guy says i need new motherboard and new power supply thingy. Susan says buy a new one, but i am not ready to do that yet..maybe I can fix the darn thing without paying thru the nose. Heck,its just R&R mostly, just have to find the parts of an old PC.
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 10:15:54 (MDT)
he did good Bill.
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 10:11:29 (MDT)
Hey Flight - I don't usually post long stuff here, but I thought many of you might enjoy this. My son Jim is in the Sr. ROTC program at CalState Northridge becoming an Army Officer (Dad is a bit more than proud!). Recently the editor of the university newspaper wrote an editorial "appoligizing for his country's involvement in iraq". It was nauseating to say the least. But my son wrote a rebuttle. His rebuttle has become one of the most circulated emails on campus. So I thought you would enjoy reading the original letter and then his:] Dear war-torn Middle East, I must apologize for the way my country has acted toward you in the course of the past few decades. We never quite saw eye-to-eye, but lately things have been getting way out of hand. I just wanted to let you know that I realize this and I do feel guilty. There's nothing my country or I can do to make up for our interference in your personal matters. And by "personal matters," I mean your culture and your way of life. By "interference," I mean the bombings, the torture and the tens of thousands of murders of innocent men, women and children, which we have commited in the course of the last six years. There's nothing my nation can do to make up for what we've done. I know we try. We say that we're building new schools, but I know it doesn't make up for the school children lost in the ones that have collapsed due to our weapons. We say we are rebuilding your governments, but things always seem to become more violent and chaotic when we do. We want to do good in the world, but our healing only seems to cause harm. Maybe someday we'll realize that violence isn't the path to peace. You must think that we're just some sort of predator nation that picks off other countries who are weaker so we can feed off of their resources. I know it looks this way, but this isn't the intention of the majority of us. Some of us would pay double or triple the price for gasoline rather than allow another human life to end, but we are not the ones in power. Please, you must not take our horrific attacks personally. We do it to lots of people. Just ask the people of Vietnam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Most of our attacks don't even come from our guns, but the guns of others, which we supply or simply ignore. We kill a lot of people who we don't even make contact with, but instead allow others to kill, so we can try to hide from the responsibility. Know that you're not alone in your suffering from the great United States. Just ask the people of Uganda, who are going through a form of genocide, which we won't protect them from. Or ask Ethiopians, who starves so we can afford more guns for ourselves and our warlord allies. A lot of us don't agree with how our country does things, and a lot more of us don't know that this kind of thing is going on. Please take these things into consideration while reflecting on this, the anniversary of one of the triggers of it all. I'm not sure how we wiggled our way into Iraq from Afghanistan after Saudi terrorists blew up some of our buildings, but we're there now and I'm sorry. A lot of us are sorry for what we as a nation have done, but we don't know what we can do. How can we control a democratic government that doesn't listen to the majority of its people? Once we figure that out, hopefully we can make amends with the many people we have harmed. Until then, please cover your heads and protect your loved ones. This could take a while. Sincerely, William Kammer Opinion Editor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Terrorist Extremists, I must apologize for the way my country has acted toward you in the course of the past few decades. We never quite used the amount of lethal force we should have when dealing with you. As a result, things have been getting way out of hand. I just wanted to let you know that I realize this and I do feel guilty. We let thousands of American troops die because some political figures felt it inhumane to take the amount of action that was justly deserved against a group whose main purpose in life is to destroy us and what our great nation stands for. There's nothing my nation can do to make up for what we've done. I know we try. We say that we're building new schools, but you keep blowing them up because you care nothing for your fellow countrymen or their children. We say we're rebuilding your governments, but you only care about strengthening your own personal religious faction so you kill the officials your countrymen elect and slay the police force we have trained to protect your people. We want to do good in the world, but our healing is hampered by your harm. Maybe someday we'll realize that trying to be diplomatic with your kind is impossible and we'll institute "shoot on sight" in the rules of engagement. You must think that we're just some weak nation who would allow such malicious and evil acts to go about unchecked. I know it looks this way to every college kid who has a computer and a delusion of political understanding because they watch the news goes on and on about how peace is the only answer, but this isn't the intention of the majority of us. Some of us, like myself, gladly joined the Armed Forces in a time of war to get a chance at stopping each and every one of you who spread fear and oppression in the world. Please, take our attacks personally. We do it to those who have brought it upon themselves. Just ask the people of Vietnam, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You've killed a lot of people who we don't even make contact with, but instead of allowing you to kill others, we're stepping in to put a stop to it. Know that we're not alone in our efforts to crush the likes of you. Just ask the people of the United Kingdom, who joined us in our battle for the invasion of Iraq. Or ask the Iraqi people who danced in the streets when we removed Saddam Hussein from power. A lot of us don't agree with how our country does things, and a lot more of them don't know that this kind of thing is going on. They are usually one and the same. Please take these things into consideration while reading letters like the one from Mr. William Kammer ("Letter from the editor," Sept. 11 issue). Mr. Kammer has even admitted, "I'm not sure how we wiggled our way into Iraq from Afghanistan after Saudi terrorists blew up some of our buildings," showing he knows very little about what's going on over in your part of the world. A lot of people like him are sorry for what we as a nation have done, but they don't know any better. How can we stop evil people like you with people around who feel the need to defend you? Once we figure that out, hopefully we can introduce you to the full power of our military, for you've only been allowed a small taste of what we can do. Until then, please cover your heads and know we will find you. This could take a while, but we're willing to be patient because we know what we're doing is right. Sincerely, James Wolf Sophomore, Information Systems Jim's email is in case you want to send him a note!! Proud Dad - Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Tuesday, September 25, 2007 at 08:02:28 (MDT)
Alex, Ron, If Ron can post it on here that would be great so everyone can just copy it. If not that Ron, just e-mail it to everyone on your list. Still think this would be the greatest thing if it can be pulled off in time and would be a reason for me to try to get to Washington in November.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, September 24, 2007 at 08:20:04 (MDT)
Flight: Talked to Ron Paye last night. He can get a letter from his congressman that we can us as a draft. Ron get home late tonight and will be going into Indy Tues. So. he will send anyone a copy whom wants one to go by. I think there is still a NO FLY ZONE in affect for DC. I replied to Phil's email. I know that Vendors line the streets and at the Lin. Memorial. Also, the large staging area for the Veterans Parade at 7th street and Constituton Ave. Is large enough to land a couple dozen chooper and still have room. As I stated that I have Talked with Bill Wolf. We were looking at the dept. Of Interior. And Jan Scrugss whom is on the Board of the Vietnam Wall in DC. Fred Alvis and Brother Mark how much info can you shed for us. I know you two had to be involed with Ron on this caper??? Always A Brother!! Is anyone going to DC??
Collierville, TN. USA - Monday, September 24, 2007 at 07:55:03 (MDT)
Howdy Flight! Kim LaVoie and Fred Skaggs, please e-mail me on the back channel with your eddresses, thanks! Glad you all survived Kokomo...
USA - Monday, September 24, 2007 at 07:50:08 (MDT)
thanks Bill, be safe.
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 18:46:42 (MDT)
Good evening Flight, Guess we are waiting for details too so we can get more letters in the mail to D.C. Flight I want to praise Gently & Joe as well for the help that they have given my friend in Milwaukee. Doug was just hoping to be able to see some kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but talked to him tonight and he is feeling great. Before he would say that he tried to find God but never was in the right place. Today he is thanking God for the people you guys have sent his way. As I told him I am sure that God had a roll in me calling to see how he was doing. The brotherhood of Vets out there helping each other is great to see. Love you guys.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 18:40:58 (MDT)
Hey Gang - am still on the road (Bakersfield, CA this week) and get home this next Thursday. Just wanted to let everyone know that the 08 VHCMA Reunion will be in St Louis, Missouri - we are still finalizing the hotel contract and I'll let you know the hotel when that is done!!! Bill
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 16:49:32 (MDT)
my mistake; notams can be found on the aircraft owners and pilots association web site at aopa online .they have a state by state listing of notices to airmen
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 20:07:56 (MDT)
guys and gals; do a search for NOTAM 7/0206. you will find the flight rules for the adiz space of 30 miles surrounding the 18 mile no fly zone over dc. pretty damn complicated to get into the adiz space. need flight plan,vhf and uhf radio, transponder with automatic altitude reporting capability.also suggests pilots entering within 100 nautical mile of dc complete special training,looks like it can be done online,transponder also needs to be capable of transmitting a discrete code continusly during flight.Gently, i sure do hope you can pull some strings. cause it looks like a tuff row to hoe
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il. USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 15:27:07 (MDT)
PHIL AND SIMON....READ MY EMAILS OF TODAY...WE HAVE SOME WASHINGTON CONTACTS WITH KNOWLEDGE AND POWER. They want some history before they step off the curb for us. L-J
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 14:13:01 (MDT)
Hey guys;if you go to and pull up the birds eye view of the mall you will see that there is a ball field suitable for landing just northwest of the wall across henry bacon drive n.w. don't know if that is a help or not. if this can be pulled off i will fly out there for the weekend. i will also try approching my congress man here in il.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 11:00:33 (MDT)
just put my feelers for help out there...will keep you posted. But I'm a feelin' that the "Delta's" will come through:>) Right Gary! Mark got my package...geez...what a guy! Could get alot of money for the Christmas fund for that item:>))) Wow! I can't possibly keep it....has to go to one of the 129ers. C.P........I hope you check in once in a while.....we miss you. ;>) L-G
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 10:49:17 (MDT)
Sunday,Nov.,11th, is Veterans day.
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 09:02:52 (MDT)
Or should say is that November 10th & 11th?
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 07:59:17 (MDT)
WOW, that is a great idea if we could pull it off. What is the date for that weekend? Also if someone post exactly want we want to write or request ASAP, the rest can cut & paste it into a letter. I can also push to get some of the guys who are not always on the site to do the same.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 07:42:05 (MDT)
good idea gale. and with the letter we can fax our letter to our reps., on the same day to all our state and fed. reps. wink 3/69- 10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 07:28:37 (MDT)
one more thing. Ron Paye is the guy behind the 8 ball on this operation.He has more info and can better fill in the gaps on this.From what I understand,this all started during the Orlando reunion. Phil and Simon really felt welcomed into our family/brotherhood.
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 07:24:49 (MDT)
Mark,Gently,Ron and others,I too am glad the cat is out of the bag. Yes Mark, a shipping company will bring " Miss Jo" (509) to Baltimore for free.Phil states he will have about 20 hours left on the bird to give rides for the 129th family. The mission is to try and park the bird next to the wall during the 25th anni. (weekend) of the wall.Failing that, geting a place VERY close by to park and fly out of. One of the problems is this..the Wall is close to the White House,a no- fly zone. Another problem is that the park police/agencey say all the room near the wall/park has been spoken for already.They also dont want the bird to be parked in the street. I myself find it hard to believe there isnt any room for a Huey to park. So guys/ladies, if you want to fly once again on a 129th war bird ( is there any other kind), we need help to get "Miss Jo" from Baltimore to a GOOD Washington DC parking place. That being accomplished, I bet it would make all the major papers/magazines and TV channels. I repeat,this may be your last chance to fly again on a of ours!
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 07:13:19 (MDT)
Alex/ Mark, I think we need someone to print out a standard letter that requests what we want and all the specifics. That way we're all on the same page and all we have to do is sign it and mail it. It seems to me that a uniformed effort would be more impressive and easier to understand. Any opnions? Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 06:38:14 (MDT)
Russell--L'll Bro-----Make the call to Delta Force--Terry and David----Tell them uncle Gary needs to see if they have pull to assist 509 effort at "wall" ----or directive contacts. ------Big Thanks-----------See entries below---------
Gary Woodward
USA - Friday, September 21, 2007 at 03:58:26 (MDT)
Fred, that merchandise thing at Office Depot sounds like a good deal. We need to start getting , hats again and other stuff..............
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 20:43:04 (MDT)
The NAMES on the WALL know who did Alex, the cat is out of the bag now. I think letting everybody know about, as Phil called it, PROJECT W, is the right thing to do. We have many people who possibly can make contact with the right ones we need to talk to so this can be accomplished. The crew from England has had a Shipping company from over there offer to ship the "509" to America for free by boat. Is that not correct Fred and Ron? Shipment would be to Baltimore. I assume the "509" would fly to DC from there. Our job is to make contacts with the ones we need to that can allow the "509" to land close to the WALL. How awesome is that gang? SO, if anybody has any strings to pull, start pulling them. Would be nice if Gen. Brown was contacted. Anybody know how to do that? What an exciting thing to thing about. .......I will start with a prayer and then will start to contact who ever I need to tomorrow.. Mike Miles? ...don't you work for the Gov over there?..........get those gears a turning gang. Just think about this. it would be a reuniting of the "509" with as many of the 129th that could be possible. Man we are hitting the BIG TIME.................always a brother.........HEY DIG THIS, I hit the spell check and "no errors could be found" bout that Larry;-))))
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 20:40:26 (MDT)
Long Day!! left a few words out of my post. Like write an email!!!!!
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 20:15:14 (MDT)
Flight: I once again have been invited to pull off a big one!!! But, sorry to say I told the concern parties. I can't do another 129th surprise, with the help of the 129th Family. I recieved a call from Ron Paye. He told me of his problem. And, I told him that I need help. And, my wonderful 129th family will help us. as, soon as Ron can give me the exact where and when. Than I need each of you to you congress and senate person. The purpose is having Phil Connley's( our 509 ) fly into an National Park in Washington D.C. for the 25th Aniverary of the Vietnam Wall. Ron has been given the run around about flying into the A national Park. I contacted my 129th Brother Bill Wolf and he was on the same page as me. Ron had to go to Wis. but, whn he returns I will post the information. I was wanting everyone to have the email ready for their congress and senate person. I think it would be an honor to see 509 representing the 129th at 25th Aniverary of the Wall. Always A Brother!!
Collierville, TN USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 20:11:16 (MDT)
Thats great Gary. Sometime around november I am going to check futher into this purchase of items. We tried starting a 129th assoc,tax exempt number (state)and all..the number and assoc is still good in Indiana. Its never been used.Hmm, gotta get the wheels rolling on this in the old brain. Not angry Gently, perhaps a bit dissapointed that some low life,worthless,egg sucking,vandal would do that.
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 17:22:02 (MDT)
Fred, If you need to order anything from Office Depot---Let me know---My wife works there and I have a Corporate discount on many things and will check for you.-------------- Smile and be happy !!!!!!!!!
Gary Woodward
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 16:50:26 (MDT)
Fred, baby....I never used the word forgive. I just asked that Peace be kept here on our website. This war is doing enough to all of you(us) don't need more amunition for more anger and strife. Never said forgive....just asked for Peace here. I love ya Fred....G
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 14:20:34 (MDT)
A couple of things..first off..let the priest and God forgive those..."people",I myself would like to be alone with them for a short while,in a locked room. After they see the error of their ways,then I will forgive them. These "people" are attacking not only our KIA's, but the familys and friends too.That isnt the place for a "political statement". Secondly, I was just buzzing around in "Office Depot", after faxing some stuff.Looking thru their catalogs I came across one thats right up our alley. Its list things that you can have a "logo" put on. Everything from fly swatters to hats, coffee mugs to calenders, shirts to license frames, golf balls to camp chairs,ect,ect. There is,of course, a mimium order for the different things. The hats for example, cost $4.39 each,with a mimimum order of 24. BUT, if you order under 143 hats,there is an additional charge of $63.00 "taping" charge,whatever that is. So one case of hats @ $4.39 x 24 = $105.36 plus the $63.00 = $168.36 or $7.02 each. ordering 144(6 cases)hats at $4.39 each = $632.16 without the $63 dollar "tape" charge.One case of hats would cost $7.02 each hat. 6 cases $4.39 each hat. Trouble is, can we get rid of 144 hats? Oh,the hats look like the ones we jsut and white, plus shipping, which isnt much. Just throwing out stuff for discussion. Coffee cups are around $2.50 each with a mimimum of 72 to be ordered. Next time your near an "Office Depot", check it out.
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 10:21:45 (MDT)
Gently, thanks for the update. My feelings are the same regaurdless, just like seeing where someone tore through a graveyard. Maybe you have to feel sorry for the sick minds that do these things or wonder what is the motivation.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 08:58:42 (MDT)
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 07:39:25 (MDT)
I'll read the posts in a minute...I just wanted to get this update out ASAP. Please, instead of being overly angry and sharing that anger on the site, please say a prayer in honor of our friends on the Wall. They are at Peace...and only wish that for us. The World today is full of thugs, punks and vandals...God will deal with them. Let's try to be here in a loving and positive manner for each other at this time of shock, anger, and feelings of betrayal. I love you. Gently Police Say Vietnam Memorial Vandalized The Associated Press Tuesday, September 18, 2007; 11:26 AM WASHINGTON -- An oily substance found splashed on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial this month was the result of vandalism, U.S. Park Police determined. Sgt. Robert Lachance, a Park Police spokesman, said Monday that a detective made the conclusion, but he declined to provide further details because of the investigation is ongoing. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, which built the structure, has offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case. The oily substance on the black granite wall _ which bears the names of more than 58,000 men and women killed or missing in the Vietnam War _ was first reported Sept. 7. National Park Service officials said they did not know what the substance was, and at first said it was unclear whether it was the result of vandalism or some kind of accident. On Monday, dark blotches remained along a stone curb at the base of the wall for much of its length. At least 14 of its 140 inscribed panels appeared to be stained. Park Service spokesman Bill Line said maintenance and preservation crews were working to remove the stains and marks but were proceeding cautiously to avoid further damage. He said officials are confident they can remove all the stains, but it could take a week or more. "It's deplorable that someone would vandalize what's really a national shrine," said Jan C. Scruggs, founder and president of the Memorial Fund. "It's an outrage. It's sad."
USA - Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 07:06:43 (MDT)
Waoooooooo Ken. That sleeping pill must have leaked into this place. Nobody been round all day.................
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 20:31:33 (MDT)
Good morning brothers, just got up after sleeping for about 16 hrs. One pill was all it took to get caught up on my sleep. This is early to start for next year but wanted to get things going with Ski over there. 1st I will go ahead and join the Howard County guys to get a foot in the door. My 2nd question for those who met Jim Wages, the moonshine guy. He wants me to try and get him a new home near us too. He had his spot way down to the East end and just had his vehicle parked on it. Said sometimes he brings a small tent, plus gets a golf cart. Other than that it is open. Gale I guess ended up with the spot next to mine even though that was up in the air all weekend. Do we want to try and move closer to the 26th Combat Eng or see if we can expand our AO where we were?? I am still hoping to get at least a couple more of the guys to come next year. Larry Stokes sounds like he would but would need a Motel Rm reserved. Dale Wysocki has a bike and is a camper anyway plus hope that the next 12 months will yeild us a few more brothers who might come. Like I said I will be in touch with Ski within the next couple weeks, the ADA guys won't move but I am sure we could push the guys from Texas over into the corn field, LOL. I agree with Gale we need to plan better as a unit so we know we have plenty of room for guys who decide to come at the last minute. I still plan on going early next year to spend time with other people I know. If that list gets any longer I will need to get there two weeks early.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 07:44:00 (MDT)
Wink, you would fit right in.Heck, people ride around on toilets mounted on go cart chassis.As always, there was that 23 T- bucket,gun trucks,jeeps,ect. Oh,a few motorcycles too.This year I saw some different flags,British and Austrailian for two. It was an honor to meet Sam Davis and watch him award the medals to our brothers.Believe it or not,I think he is the first MOH recipent I have seen that had all his body parts still intact. Still waiting to hear from the guy that has my computer.grrrr .Look out folks, I now have my CDL,class A, learners permit..hehehe. 4 test and sweating bullets for 1-1/2 hours,whew.
USA - Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 07:42:18 (MDT)
I put some photos on there too. Geeeezzz.....a guy can't even take a nippy nap!:o)
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 13:01:41 (MDT)
Photos of LZ Kokomo on Yahoo page now. Gale, there is one "Missed Moon Shot" of you snoozin'. Dangit.................
USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 12:12:27 (MDT)
Hi guy well went to the va monday got the stiches out then came home & bent over to pick up somthing off the floor & had a sharp pain in my back & felt somthing running down my back & sead I riped it open & shore did went into the house look at my t shirt loded with bllod called the wife sh look & told me it open get in the truck you going to the hospital now got there went in the nurce told me you got to wait & I told here you got to wait there two befor you so I turend my back to here she told me the same sit down I lost it big time & all this time bllod runing down my backwent back to the truck the wife sead whot are you doing out here there two before me she got on the cell phone & called them & they told here to get me back in there & when I got to the door there was a nurce there took me back to get it fixed stiched it up in side & then on the out side then went home. GUY if you got eany lomps om you have them cut out well the chunck they cut out of me well it was myeloma & now watch out for more & he found a nother lump on my back he wants me back in there to have it cut out. SO BROTHER DONT LET THEM GO THAT NO SHIT WE DONT NEED EANY MORE TO PUT A LOAD ON US Well take care Art
Arthur Foster <>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 11:09:03 (MDT)
LAKE WALES FL, USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 08:39:43 (MDT)
Good morning Flight. I think I am recovered and had a long talk with my doctor who is now sending me more pills with the promise that she will push to get my surgery. Guess the up side this year was I drank more beers than I could keep track of plus a kick of Moonshine before bed. Thanks to Gently I met a bunch more people and next year they will still be talking about the 129th guy. Also was glad that I got both Brother-in-laws to come for the 1st time. Last of all I may join the group over there and see if that will help us out trying to get spots next year. Take care to all my brothers.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 06:16:13 (MDT)
Thanks Kal, got "wet pants".......but did see "autograph girl" and I think we saw the beach where they do all those Carona commercials at. Man, what was in those "stained glass" cookies Paul?......I love Kokomo. The camo nets still smell like camp fire. The "fart sack" still smells like, well, you get the picture
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 21:25:11 (MDT)
Hey Alex, any word on the long version of the trip to England DVD yet?.....
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 21:04:14 (MDT)
Hi Jim and Sue. good to see ya...that address for the yahoo site is < >..............
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 21:02:20 (MDT)
New computer at our house and have lost the yahoo address to view the pictures. Could someone post the pic site again or email it to me? Thanks. Jim H
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 20:31:54 (MDT)
Mark, Gently posted her new address and phone.. Look at her Sept 7th post.. C Ya.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 15:45:47 (MDT)
Hey Gently, don't you have a new address? If so, may I have it?.......need to send you something since you didn't make Kokomo............
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 14:11:12 (MDT)
You guys mean what I know!!!!!
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 13:29:10 (MDT)
That would be chocolet chip.............
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 13:28:27 (MDT)
Paul's wife made chocolate chick and as we called them, "Stained Glass Window "cookies. We all were like man, seeing thangs in the middle of them ones man. Can ya dig it? Whoooooooa!....look at that....did ya see it?????? man.......
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 13:27:47 (MDT)
Oh, I forgot. We now have our very own , official, certified, bonified, homogenized, "Master Baster" at least for breakfast. Gale, makes some mean eggs and bacon. And a Donut Dolly Also, That be Paul.............
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 13:20:14 (MDT)
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 12:47:37 (MDT)
Whoa!!!!!!! Speaking of MOONS!!! How did that happen Wink? I didn't know the moon was even out during LZ Markey Mark!!!!! Hehhehhee I guess that will the end my naps around you Mark.........what goes around comes around huh Brother? Luv you guys!
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 10:02:37 (MDT)
Flight, got home truck did real good pullin' the ole "Shasta". Man what a beautiful weekend at Kokomo. I don't think there is the right words to describe it, although, Alvis can put his spin on it and I'm sure you can picture it. Campers, campfires, Harleys (and a few Victories....sorry Kal), Huey flying over, live bands,guys jumping out of aircraft, good food,beer,Wild Turkey,Moonshine, moon tatoos-hehhehe, groups of Vets talking and hugging and crying and laughing.............................what more could a guy want!?
Gale 67-68
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 09:55:36 (MDT)
Photos of "LZ Markey Mark 2007" in Ohio are now on the YAHOO page of Fred's. Check them out. See if you can find the "MOON" over LZ Markey Mark;-)))......he,he,he,he,........Ricky. WELCOME HOME BROTHER and back to the 129th. Thanks for Serving..........Where is Rick England been???..anybody heard from him........Rick, "Front and center brother"..........
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 09:07:33 (MDT)
Rickie, WELCOME :-)! What happened to MSGT Smith? Was he still there when you got to the 129th? Gary, how have 'ya been? Do you remember WO Bill shilleto? What happen to him? Any way I'll try & give 'ya a "land line". E'nuff Said. Dawg 426 clear left & Otta here.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 08:43:39 (MDT)
sounds like everyone had a good time. one day i'll have to make it.mark stand tall an take it all in you are one in a million. you've taken on a quest not only to help yourself but without knowing it at frist, you have helped so many of us begin the healing process. congrads. ray sorry i didn't call you back last night, have'nt been feeling to good lately. been fighting a sinus infection. it leaves i'm very tried , to apoint that all i want to do is sleep. will hopefully will call you tonight. hey everybody stay alert out there. wink -3/69-10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 08:40:48 (MDT)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH........Kokomo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........I love that reunion. Man, and the gathering's with the 129th get better every time we meet up. I inserted my kokomo pixs on my computer and some from LZ Markey Mark earlier this summer. Will put them on Fred's Yahoo place. FRED? what is that address again? Or is that Gales place.? Anyways, send it to me so I can put the photos up there..........I have never had such memorable moments in my life as I have since the begging of the ride with the 129th. ...BUT....Receiving the Medal in honor of Larry from the Medal of Honor recipient, Sammy Davis, has to rank up at the top at this moment. I am sure that I will reach another 129th high. The LORD has blessed me and will continue too. I not only believe in him, I believe him!....As stated was presented with a Medal that states " IN RECOGNITION OF THOSE WHO SERVED VIETNAM 1959-1975" From Sammy Davis. Model of Honor man. I was standing at the 26 Engineers tent munchin' on some of the master baster's turkey when they called my name after they called the others. It was completely a surprise that they called me. As I stood there Sammy comes walking up and places the Medal around me neck and then, "With a tear in his eye" he rubs my medal with his medal of Honor and says, this is for Larry.....""""MELT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......for me.........still shakin' my head over that and have a chill down my back as I write this. I will put this medal in the glass case I have all of Larry's medals in along with a photo that Gale took of it goin' down.........I have to stop for a little bit. Larry is rubbing my shoulder. Will write more later......I love all of you................
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 07:51:03 (MDT)
forgot to add..Katherine, you werent forgotten in our "circle of friends" ceremony as we spoke off the names. Flight at each gathering we have a ceremony where we gather in a circle, join hands, say a prayer, and speak some of our kias names and some that were in other times/units.
USA - Monday, September 17, 2007 at 07:09:13 (MDT)
Back. Left at 5 AM.As always...due to the great company,friends and brothers, I had a great time. Sitting around..looking into the fire or stars, quiet talk amoung old friends (and new),easy laughter,dusty trails and cool nights.As paul said, its really not so much of a structured reunion as it is a pure social occasion, in primitave conditions.Well said Paul. Mark, my answer is ..a bike..thats what I wanted as a young one. Sure was nice watching the 498 Dustoff huey fly around giving rides. Pete R.was good to see you again. Hope you guys ahd a better trip back,with no bike crashes this time.
USA - Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 17:00:15 (MDT)
First In & Last out, the emotions this year I had leaving were extreme. Turning on the radio to a country station may have played a roll in that. Still trying to get the knot out of my throat from recieving the medal from Sammy as I am sure Mark & Jim still have thiers, what an honor guys. Part of the feelings had to do with that young lady carring a heavy bag of pictures, letters and orders from her father. I hope she finds out more and makes the connection and remembers our site. A heart was touched by her story about her father WO Sanders, hope I got it right. Also meeting another Nam Vet the other night and his daughter, a vet from the Golf War talking about her son preparing to leave for Iraq. Last off all I was touched by the lady that brought a little excitement to us old farts who were there. I hope she makes her goals as she deals with the loss of her father & husband. I will always remember the beach now. Last of all welcome to our new brother posting, I will try to be in touch soon. Guys this was truly a great year and keep hoping for more to make it next year.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 15:52:14 (MDT)
Just got home and had a great time. want to thank all for making jim feel at home. he said he had a great time and will feel much more comfortable posting here as he has met us. missed gently-------,thanks to the masterbaster for another thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat.MARK,get outta the cookie jar.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 13:22:45 (MDT)
Welcome home Rickey and welcome to the site!!! I just got home and unpacked from another great Kokomo Reunion.. WOW what a great time. Had another great MasterBaster turkey dinner and really had a great time shooting the bulls and looking at the passing sites. I also got enough sites and sounds of a nice sounding Huey to hold me over for a while. That WHOP-WHOP-WHOP really turns me on..Ha..Don't get to hear it much anymore. Also got the chance to shake hands with one of our Metal of Honor Recipients as he presented metals to a few of our guys, and that was one of my high points in life...WOW!!!!. Life is getting short fellas and if you haven't been to one of our reunions/gatherings you are really missing the boat. Believe me, they are worth the trip!!.. With fond memories of a great time, take care.. Gently, we missed you!!.. Love and Brotherhood.. Kal, 67/68...>>>
Kal Begstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com >
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 10:55:51 (MDT)
Welcome Home and to the 129th site Rickie------Thanks for your support in 72------Many are in Kokomo this week but I'm sure you will hear from them soon--------Take Care------- (Snoopy 593--71-72).------------Hello to all campers in Kokomo --stay dry and enjoy.---------Bruno--call me sometime--------Alex--still have about three more acres to cut today,feel free to bring your clippers. Will stop by your store next week.--------------Hello to all others as well (you too Fred)-----------------snoopy out.
Gary Woodward <>
Memphis, Tn USA - Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 04:08:42 (MDT)
I was in the 129th from marct 1972 to Nov. 1972 in maint.
Rickie Kresge <>
New Tripoli, Pa. USA - Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 21:49:48 (MDT)
The Huey is just lifting off with another load as the Sun is getting ready to set here. Was surprised to get a medal from Sammy Davis along with Mark & Jim tonight, Mark said it made it even better to have him give it to us. Was enough to make your throat stop working. I know it was another Tribute to Larry. Also got to meet the Master Baster and know the right place. LOL Wish all could be here but will be thinking of all the rest as we freeze again. No it is a really great time here and still clear & Dry..
Ken Strong
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 18:10:21 (MDT)
Hey gang - hope you are all having a great mini reunion - wish I could be there! I leave for Calif. tomorrow (Sun) for two weeks of teaching - getting too old for this much traveling!!!
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 09:39:07 (MDT)
hello to all my brothers and sisters, i had msn 7 some how i had to update when i did i lost all the names can you all resrnd to me iam not wnen sureif it will work i may have re load but dont have a link. not sure if i can even know how to do it. i any dodes the update be sure to save the names in the old one.thanks my screen name for msn iis i hope i can get it back. i tryed to get te old one back but cant, i realy messed this one up. thank for the call rick needed it. no sure how things will go to long of a wait between aapt but they will come had blood pressure done was 78/54 i have a cat scan of the abodanal area we see i let you know love you all. i know most wont se thos the7 are away maybe the will scroll down and send there names to my msn hot mail thanks love you all. again thanks rick a brother aways ray
Ray <>
MD USA - Friday, September 14, 2007 at 19:12:47 (MDT)
I am on Susans Computer. I have to take mine in and see whats wrong with it.Soo,I will be "no-mail" and "down" for a while. Comming up to Kokomo today for a while.
USA - Friday, September 14, 2007 at 06:40:49 (MDT)
I am going to be better at this next year, like having 129th signs and stakes. Gale got here and was going to park in 637W but someone was already there. So he is the 429 spot. May have to do some working around things here, maybe a tent in my spot. Still sort of blocked here till after Saturday as they now have a Huey parked which they were charging like $75 for a ride. Today is still great and it is currently 55 degrees. Way more people than last year. OK, got the wrong info from Gently and Gale set me straight. Will pass info along in morning.
Ken Strong
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 21:44:55 (MDT)
Gotta put a ujoint in the pick-up in the morning then will be headed to LZ Kokomo. Hold down the fort Gale and Ken. Gale I will be bringing the LANE sign and the Bong Son GCA sign and 129th flag also. Also am bringing a canapy pole set up. Is there room to set it up in one of the 129th spots?............Love to all, exspecailly Smitty ;-).........I love Kokomo..........
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 19:36:49 (MDT)
Gale; cookies are in the oven,choclate chip and peanut butter and jelly.PBJ for breakfast.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 17:53:17 (MDT)
Ken; i will be there tomorrow about six.Ask masterbaster if he has a grocery list.if he does you can email me at idapaul at yahoo dot you know. if not i will do a store run on sat morning. paul
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 17:43:08 (MDT)
Anyone is welcome to park in 429west. That is for the 129th parking. I will not get up there untill Friday night and will be staying at the spot we have had for years. See you all then.
Ron Paye
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 16:38:19 (MDT)
Things are nice again today but will get to about 80 degrees. The big guns are here and the Huey landed a while ago. I didn't get around that much Wed but am stuck here for the moment. I hate waiting for people to show up. Will give an update tonight.
Ken Strong Jr
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 09:20:23 (MDT)
A u-tube video of the damage to the wall.
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 04:53:48 (MDT)
Gale, hes talking about para-troopers.
USA - Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 04:29:23 (MDT)
Ken, sorry, but, I don't understand what you mean 'bout "drop zone" and "jumps". Can I park my camper at 429W or 637W?? Gale
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 22:22:49 (MDT)
OH GENTLY, I owe you one. Because I fell for it hook, line and sinker. To top it off I didn't get it till had ate and one of the ladies was cracking up when I walked out of their tent, LOL
Ken Strong
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 19:17:04 (MDT)
Gently or someone, is that the ADA guys straight across from Ron's spot (429)? Second two reports, the area begin 429/629 is now a drop zone to Hwy 26. First jumps just after noon tomarrow, second on Saterday at 11:00 AM. No parking allowed. The other, people are showing up without reserved spots. Was told that ones that were empty are gone today. Traffic arriving is still study flow and my camper reads 74 degrees now. signing off as using my minutes..
Ken Strong
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 16:42:08 (MDT)
Better info on Lt.Judson: Killed on 3/5/67. Went down with Wo1 Reginald Morse, SP4 Tim Lynah and SP4 Ken Wells. His actual name is Hampden Cutts Judson Jr. He crashed in the Saigon river. Thanks again...Jim Novak
Jim Novak <>
Wheaton, il USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 13:10:57 (MDT)
Looking for anyone who flew with Lt. Denny Judson...He was in the 129th and was killed in 1966. He and I enlisted together..Would love to hear from you thanks.
Jim Novak <>
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 13:00:33 (MDT)
Ken......LOL!!!! Wish i could be there. I'm sure the Masterbaster is the old campsite...go say Hi and hang out. L-Gently
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 12:40:42 (MDT)
Well got hijacked by the 4th ID this morning and just got back. My back is wore out but having a great time hear, a church put out breakfast & lunch for free. Traffic is getting worse in all directions plus the Marines landed next door in the middle of the night. If this stays like it is it will be a great year. Only spotted showers expected on Friday and hope they miss us. OK waiting for someone to show up and keep me company. Signing off from the LZ.
Ken Strong
LZ Kokomo, IN USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 12:27:12 (MDT)
God bless the Jackson Family. L-G
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 11:01:33 (MDT)
On this 38th anniversary of the loss of my only brother, Stephen Anthony DeSantis and the rest of the crew of 257 , Richard Arthur Sawran, Lawrence David Jackson and Stephan Lee Hargrave, my prayers are always with them. My heart goes out to all the family and friends who loved these brave men and are left to carry on without them. We are all blest and better for having known them and shared some of our lives with them. Our responsibility is to forever keep their memories alive. "To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven..." Jayne O'Donnell
Jayne D. O'Donnell <>
West Hartford, CT USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 10:52:45 (MDT)
Ken;GOOD JOB on the real time kokomo reports. have to make this a yearly job for you. i'm sure it is appreciated
paul mcgrath
lasalle , il. USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 10:42:15 (MDT)
Slow hand salute to the crew of 257 - I will always remember you guys!! On a few other notes....should be able to give you the details on the 08 reunion shortly - Tom is finalizing a contract with the targeted hotel (I promised not to release the location until then). Tom and the Board will also start working on the 09 reunion in an effort to get ahead of the game! I'm very impressed with the great job Tom (Exec. Dir) does - and its all volunteered time!!!! I still have books left. I will bring what evers left to the 08 reunion. I'm still intending to do an 07 reunion video, but have been traveling 2-3 weeks each month lately. You all have fun at Kokomo and stay dry!! Always a Brother - Bill
Bill Wolf <VHCMAPresident>
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 09:24:24 (MDT)
Morning Flight, got up early, no need for alarm with the Trucks going by honking their horns. Last night was prefect here, breeze blowing campfire smoke away from area. No moon and not a cloud in the sky. Dale Wysocki emailed me this morning. Says he will be at the next get together, waiting for Bill and he lives in Vegas. I am trying to recover in getting away from home in over two weeks. Four days without any meds, so moving pretty slow. See you all soon & curently 46 degrees w/ 7mph wind.
Ken Strong Jr.
LZ KoKomo, IN USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 07:01:55 (MDT)
Phil has a pretty cool Huey weather vane for sale in his site.I suppose one can rig it to mount anywhere, including a pole stuck in the ground/backyard.**KEN** Thats great news buddy.
USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 06:18:19 (MDT)
New address, reporting from Kokomo. Rain reports were wrong, they got less than an inch here and things are very dry. Got parked in 629W, didn't know about the fence. Anyway it it cold and dry right now. Will post updates from here but my cell phone is so slow. I will be waiting to see all of you, Mark thinking of Larry.
Ken Strong Jr
LZ KoKomo, IN USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 19:15:59 (MDT)
Slow Hand Salute to the gallant crew of "257". Prayers to their families on this day. Also A Slow Hand Salute to All those who Gave/ & lost their lives on ( 9/11) NEVER FORGET. May God be with their families. I LOVE YOU MARK, (my turn). Deepest respects to all>>>> Smitty.
jim westwang71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 18:47:56 (MDT)
Spent the day combing the junk yards and then working on my POS. Bottom line is I will be there friday afternoon.Will most likely spend the night in the car cause I plan to drink a few beers. You guys bring warm stuff..lows in the lower 40s forecast for this weekend. Chance of rain for friday..and friday night...20 to 30% chance.Dont matter, been wet before.Ken, we will take care of you buddy.
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 17:39:34 (MDT)
Going down to Montclair,N.J. tonight to Charlie Browns Steakhouse.....Have dinner with my friend,Creighton Abrams III, talk about politics and sports......Creighton is a Desert Storm Vet.....Princeton University Army ROTC.....Cav Scout, he`s not a West Pointer. But he`s alot of fun to hangout with, real "down to earth" guy.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 16:39:35 (MDT)
Gently, thanks.........and we're sure gonna miss you guys this week-end!! Although.....I probably will have enuff beer to last me!;o)) Flight "257", this slow hand salute goes out to you all. Ken, let me know 'bout the "mud" report if you can. See you all Thursday PM....FYI, I have a different truck. I replaced that teal color Ranger with a black F-150 short bed..................later
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 15:43:48 (MDT)
A slow respectful hand salute to the crew of "257".....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 15:35:05 (MDT)
"Alive Day" the HBO film just shown on television- one hour long-just cut and paste this address. "Alive Day " is the day these young men and women survived their brush with death in Iraq. Injured, yes, but alive. L-Gently
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 14:56:43 (MDT)
Ok, I have my truck hooked up and I am ready to go. Depending on what I can find out today for a mud report from Kokomo I will either leave today or in the morning. The VA is putting me off on getting a wheelchair anyway so will deal with a walker. Brothers please bear with me and will be packing up to get going.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 09:15:47 (MDT)
Slow Hand salutle to "257"
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 09:06:00 (MDT)
Dear all, Thank you all so much for your kind thoughts, wishes and prayers during this difficult time. Your kindness and support has been very much appreciated. Thanks once again. Phil & Jo Connolly & Family
Phil & Jo Connolly <>
Preston, Lancs England - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 09:01:43 (MDT)
Goodmorning Flight: The VHCMA are looking for pictures of helicopters for the 2008 calender. No pictires of crashes. But the can have nose art. Pictures can be sent to Spencer Gardner 7151 Greenwood Rd. Millsap, Tx. 76066-2705 Spencer will personally handle all pictures and get them back to owners in the original form he recieves them and get them back to the owners in timely matter. Anyone whom is interested can send the photos to the address above. Sorry to miss Kokomo. But, been saving my time off for family in Ohio. Mom and Dad ain't in the best of health their in the mid- eighties and my older sister has terminal cancer. So, it's been a rough year. Always A Brother!!
Collierville, Tn. USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 08:54:51 (MDT)
Thanks for info Gently, I will pass it on
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 08:09:55 (MDT)
It's every day's part of us. Amen. L-G
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 07:28:23 (MDT)
Correction on Vietnam Wall Defacement----before this gets out of hand Patriots and Comrades All: After several attempts, I was able to contact SGT Booker of the National Park Service (NPS), to check on the facts about the defacement of the Vietnam Wall last weekend. He explained it was a cleaning accident by a Park Ranger and NOT a defacement as was originally reported by the Vietnam Veterans of American (VVA). The NPS is regarding this as an accident instead of an act of vandalism or terrorism. Our National Commander Patriot Henry Cook III has the direct phone numbers for SGT Booker of the NPS, and can verify these facts with him directly. A copy of this correction is also being sent the VVA for their follow up and verification. My apology for the error, as sometimes it is not always possible to reach the NPS immediately. Any future report of attempted or actual vandalism will be verified with the NPS in advance, even if that means a significant delay in reporting the incident. Charlie Montgomery Parks & Forestry 823-4041
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 07:25:46 (MDT)
It appears that last friday night, someone(s) damanaged THE WALL.This isnt the best of links,but it does have a few pictures of the damanage.
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 05:49:24 (MDT)
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 05:40:56 (MDT)
38 years ago. Seems like yesterday...........Slow hand salute to the crew of the "257". De Santis, Sawran, Hargrave, Jackson................
USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 05:22:34 (MDT)
Gently & Joe thank you so much, was going to call him later today and see how he is doing as I told him you guys would be gone this week, sorry your not going to make it. Crawling is still what I am about doing but managed to flush tanks & fill with water yesterday. Going to try to load food & hook it up to the truck today hoping to hear a dry point at Kokomo. Just getting there is what counts even if I don't get around much. Not going to pay to see a huey after last year. Take care all.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 10:10:03 (MDT)
Gently; Not to worry about the buns will be making a run to the store on saturday morning. i will get with the masterbaster to find out what he needs
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 08:18:40 (MDT)
Ken, Joe has been in contact with your friend Doug. We've got his back so you just go to Kokomo and have fun:>) You too Ron. I really can't beieve that Joe and I won't be there this bummed. Having said that, next year will be double the fun:>)) for us. I'm sure "wet pants" will be there this year again...keep an ey out for her. :>)))))))))). We usually get the buns for the turkey the masterbaster cooks so someone should check with him and see if he needs such again this year. One of you who are traveling quite away could pick them up in town rather than bringing a dish to share at the campsite. I heard the re-union is in St. this true? And has anyone been in commo with C.P.? Kokomo! L-Gently
USA - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 07:28:49 (MDT)
Well,the weather forecast is cxhanging in our favor. 20% chance of tain friday,partly cloudy sat and sun. Bring a jacket, cool temps forecast .low 70s for highs..brr after dark.
USA - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 06:22:18 (MDT)
Kokomo recieved nearly 3 inches of rain through saterday night.Chances of rain deminish as week progresses.
USA - Sunday, September 09, 2007 at 06:52:39 (MDT)
oops, wrong button/key. Rain Sunday,Monday,Tuesday.Partly cloudy Wensday thursday.Rain Friday,Saterday.Friday high is 75,low of 60.Saterday high is 70,low is 54.Will keep you updated,,hope it changes.
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 16:47:58 (MDT)
kokomo daily weather of now, the county that Kokomo is under a flood watch. Rain
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 16:43:43 (MDT)
Hey Flight! Well, I should be able to give you info on the 08 Reunion shortly. Tom is finalizing the selection and contract next week. I gave my word that I wouldnt release the location until it was a done deal so I will honor that. But I can tell you that the hotel that will most likely be the location is VERY veteran friendly, great price, and very willing to help make this a fabulous reunion. I will be working with the Board and Tom (the VHCMA Exec. Director) to ensure that we have a fun-filled event. So, as soon as it's final, I'll let you all know asap!! Bill
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 11:22:32 (MDT)
Fred don't feel bad about Truck Driving. I had to put my self back into a truck after 7 years of Trucking Mgmt. Actually make more now than when in the office. good luck on your search Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 10:19:47 (MDT)
I know that Fred as I am looking out the window at the rain today. Kokomo got .77 inches yesterday and hoping it ends today up here. They say that it may rain Tues & Wed next week. Just need a few dry days getting in and out & if it times out wrong I won't even unhook again. Last year I got out in 4-wheel drive better than some. Take care flight.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 10:16:04 (MDT)
well boys, time for a career change for me. At 57 no less.To old to go back into construction..which I have done for most of my life,in one form or another. Retail sales has been decent..I can sell anything..but hate having to bite my tounge to total assholes. I always wanted to find out where some of those people worked or drank..then go there.Am over retail sales,period. Once more I have three apps. in with the boys that have jobs in a tool room guy. Good money but who wants to be away for a year. So, I have been talking to the truck driving folks. My old fat butt can still shift gears and have drove darn near everything under the sun at some time or another. Will know more in about a week.
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 19:29:40 (MDT)
Ken, be aware that a wheel chair at Kokomo is ok in dry weather. Any rain at all will make it less than excellent for you.That said, plenty of stumps to sit on,good fire, great friends,even greater lies.If it does rain, I believe a few of us can carry you ,and the your camper at lights out..
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 19:18:12 (MDT)
Kal, thanks for the offer. I may still try to get the camper there this weekend because other guys I know are already there. I spent most of this week trying to get a wheelchair from the VA but my doctor is out till Monday morning. I have an appointment there for the dentist Tuesday. I was just out crawling around trying to get the camper ready and using my mower. Ten minutes later it poored here. Now I am hoping that next week stays dry. I am still hoping for a good turn out as I may be setting there to keep the camp fire burning. Love you guys.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 14:45:16 (MDT)
I have to get my overheating problem figured out with the car. I will not drive that thing at 40mph again for that distance. Going to Marks in the P.O.S. was too much. Its gotten a bit worse.Worse comes to worse, I will only come up saturday with Susan in her car.Stinking cars.
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 13:14:23 (MDT)
Hey Gale... I thought that was "MasterBaster".. With Judith, and Joe, skiping off on us I guess we will have to look for "wet pants" again. She looked to me like she was in need of some "babysittin". Ken, if you are serious about having to crawl over to Kokomo, let me know and I may be able to swing down your way and pick you up. It wouldn't be too far out of the way if it can help you out. Just say the word. Now, as far as the "Dear John" letters go, It sounds like I wasn't the only one to one of those. In retrospect I think it probably was for the better even though at the time it wasn't.. Oh well, life goes on. Think Kokomo.. B C'n U soon.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 13:08:21 (MDT)
Flight, check out this site... some OUTSTANDING Vietnam helicopter art work!
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 11:04:33 (MDT)
I still may have to crawl to Kokomo, but will get there somehow. Site 629W. Ron, Joe & Gently I want to thank you so much for helping my old friend. Last night he asked me what caused me to call him. It had been the end of last year already but just thought for some reason I should. Gently he was the guy I talked about last year and feel bad that I did not push things sooner. Still maybe a devine hand in it because Doug had been a mental wreck for the past ten years. He wanted me to come up there and help him but I have not been out of the house in over a week. The other thing is I was just looking at Joe's card last week but couldn't find it. Just thank to you all so much.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 10:38:10 (MDT)
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 09:54:14 (MDT)
Miss Kokomo............WHAT? It won't be the same without you guys! On the other hand, congratulations on the new address!!!! :o)))) Kal, who are we gonna "babysit" this year at Kokomo?
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 08:10:45 (MDT)
Ken, who is your friend in Milwaukee.....Joe and I, or just Joe alone if you feel that would work better, would drop everything to get to him ASAP. Let me know. "Dear John" letters......heatbreaking. Meanwhile, yup, gonna miss Kokomo..can't believe it. New address: 2228 N. 115th Street, Wauwatosa WI phone: 414-607-0527. Same as Joe's :>))))) Mel.....holy cow! Long time. Ray---I love you my brother. L-Gently
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 06:55:02 (MDT)
Jim---did she also go by the name "Sandy" ----told me the same thing.--------------------Everyone have a safe trip to Kokomo.---- Gary
Gary Woodward
Memphis, USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 05:09:01 (MDT)
Thanks Smitty,chuckle. Ok flight, Jae has just sent me an email.He states he is mailing patches this way.
USA - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 05:04:04 (MDT)
He had already heard from his sister that his girlfriend, Val, was messing around on him when he got the letter. Yeah, she didn't know how to say it but she had found someone else. About that time he ran into Hoa. Hoa Nguyen was a diminutive girl with a small gap between her front teeth but always friendly & had a smile. She was plain rather than the beautiful,Lanky French Vietnamese that one dreams of. She was Loyal. She asked for things when she needed them & she lived with this guy in the hootch, sometimes hiding above the headboards to escape detection. She gave a lot of warmth. She was caught a few times by the xo's raiding party but the would appear a day or so later as a wisp. He found a great attachment to her, maybe because of the loyalty. In the 1st part of 1972 Hoa said she was going south to visit some family-- seemed scared---said VC come soon. Before leaving, she pointed toward her belly & said " I got babyson you" "I love you, i no lie". She left ,he waited, she never returned & he wondered & he wonders. Damn you Fred.
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 22:39:10 (MDT)
Kal, again on the Kokomo sites..................other than #329W (the Masterbator), I have # 637W reserved and I "think" that Ron Paye has # 429W. I'm pulling my old "Shasta" again and plan on being there on Thursday evening this year. Paul, tell your buddy to look us up. 12 dozen cookies??? Is that 6 doz for Mark(cookie monster) and the rest will share? Hey Mark, don't forget our new sign!! Gently and Joe, can't wait to see you two again...............................later,
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 22:01:33 (MDT)
Paul, I should be arriving Friday but don't know just when but it should be early afternoon. Will be in the van and am going to be sleeping in it. I still don't know any firm lot numbers but will be looking in the area that we were located last year and am hoping to be able to park the van near that location. Yes, it would be good if those attending would post their expected arrival times even though wide variations are expected.. It is getting cloae now and the nerves are perking up as it should be another good one..For those that haven't attended Kokomo before, it is a very informal bull shoot. Lots of fun, comerodery and recalling of long past times.. You would be glad you attended. Hope to be seeing a lot of you there.. C U L8r... Kal 67/68...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) emaildot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 21:26:28 (MDT)
Have yet to receive any response to my first posting. I encourage members of the 129 to contribute info and/or scanned pics for a book to be published late next year. "This is John Brennan, active member of the VHCMA and the 114th Avn Co Assn. I'm collecting VN era "nicknames" that in-country Army copter crews painted on their aircraft. Future book by aviation publisher is in the making. Have cataloged over 1,000 names to date. I expect that number to exceed 2,000 when complete. Please pass the word. Would very much like to include as many personalized 129 AHC copter names as possible. Nose art & nickname photos will constitute majority of book. Database of all known Army helicopter "nicknames" will be included. Have earmarked the Army Aviation Museum & Texas Tech as post-production recipient for "nickname" database research. From out of the shadows and into the light it's our turn to be recognized. Send "nickname" info and/or scanned pics to Regards, John Brennan, former SP5, 114 AHC, Flight Operations Coordinator, Vinh Long AAF, Mekong Delta, 1970-71"
John Brennan <>
San Lorenzo, CA USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 19:12:04 (MDT)
Fred; i should be getting there about 5-6 pm on friday.will be staying at days inn as i have somebody meeting me that was from 498th. on that subject will you guys that are there earlier on friday look after this person till i can get there? i will give him site numbers and tell him to look you up. he will be on a golf cart as he doesn't get around real good.if somebody will give me a yes or no i would appreciate it as i will talk to him this weekend.GALE cookies are on order. 12 dozen i believe.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 18:49:18 (MDT)
OK, who is going to KOKOMO and when you showing up? I might show on friday for awhile, then Susan and i are comming up saturday
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 18:21:58 (MDT)
Ken, as you have found, this "place", although public and getting more so, is a great place to relax and is for me anyway.
USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 17:26:30 (MDT)
DAVE POWERS.........I work for a "church" now.......Fellowship Deaconry, Inc...... Liberty Corner Mission HISTORY The LIBERTY CORNER MISSION has been established in 1951 as a branch of the Fellowship Deaconry, founded in 1933 as an international, non-denominational Christian organization with its headquarters in Liberty Corner, New Jersey. The LIBERTY CORNER MISSION is serving in East Asia in partnership with the MARBURGER MISSION, which is the foreign mission agency of the DEUTSCHER GEMEINSCHAFTS DIAKONIEVERBAND in Germany, founded in 1899. This foreign mission work had its beginnings as the VANDSBURGER MISSION, working together with the Liebenzeller Mission within the China Inland Mission in China from 1909 to 1928. After that it became the YUNNAN MISSION, working independently within the China Inland Mission in the Province of Yunnan in China from 1929 to 1951. Since 1952 the Society has been renamed MARBURGER MISSION. MISSION FIELDS The LIBERTY CORNER MISSION works in cooperation with the MARBURGER MISSION on the mission fields of JAPAN and TAIWAN. OBJECTIVES To plant responsible, reproducing churches that are Scriptural in their organization, teaching, and leadership. To maintain a relationship between Church and Mission that is based on mutual respect and trust. To support house churches and local congregations until they mature and are welcomed into the body of the national church. To impart to the church the vision and conviction for world evangelism that God has given LIBERTY CORNER MISSION. MISSION STRATEGY Recruit missionary candidates from U.S.A. and Canada. Prepare candidates for the mission field. Send missionaries as representatives of the Home Church, serving on the foreign fields supported by the LIBERTY CORNER MISSION. As the national church develops, pro aggressively lower the profile of the MISSION and its personnel, to permit the image of the Church to increase. Train and develop national leadership. Plan strategy in close cooperation with the Church, both bodies contributing the insights God has given them. Channel Mission resources as available to perform authorized assignments within the policies of both Church and Mission. Help missionaries understand the nature and responsibility of the Church, and the importance of Mission/Church relationships. REQUIREMENTS Here is how you can qualify: Know Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. Be firm in faith, adhering to the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith. Show maturity in Christian life. Have the desire and ability to share Christ with others. Show adequate preparation in transcripts from schools and colleges attended, and through the respect of superiors in secular employment. Be willing to adjust to a foreign culture. Be in good health physically and emotionally. LIBERTY CORNER MISSION PO Box 204 Liberty Corner, NJ 07938-0204 Tel. (908) 647-1777 extension 2221............We have built a few church in Columbia
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 15:51:57 (MDT)
Good comment Art, glad to hear your exam went well. I still say to anyone else to get it done, I only needed to change my diet again from pockets, but even that almost killed me in 2000. Also just called a friend in Milwaukee or should say got him to answer the phone. He has been held up in his house for weeks debaiting ending it all. Nightmares & PTSD have consumed to the point he doesn't care anymore. Got him to remember some wild times in our youth and ended with him saying that there is not anyone he can talk to. I am just starting to see what that war cost or better for me finding someone to talk to.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 13:20:26 (MDT)
Hi GUY them dear JOHN would rip your heart out & make you give up & do some stuiped things BUT some time it work out better & you found the wright LOVE for you & GOD had you in hand & got you throw all that time over there & some time you had BROTHER to keep a eye on you like we had in the 129th. I went to the va tuesday to have them stick a lite & caner up where the sun never shined & you lay there & look at it come out in the end had only one polyts & a growth& it take a 6x6 gaus pad to cover it up & there more of them & I hate to be cut on & the DOC had to burn & I hate that smell of burnt skin it got own smell & it put me back in nan dec 13 1968 at 1200 howers give or take a few min. I like to see what LANE look like now. TAKE CAR EVERY ONE ART
Arthur Foster <>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 11:15:24 (MDT)
A priest dies and is waiting in line a the Pearly Gates. ahead of him is a guy who's dressed in sunglasses, a loud shirt, leather jacket & jeans. Saint Peter adresses this "cool looking dude", Who are you so that i may know whether or not to admit you to the Kingdom of Heaven. The guy replies I'm Billy, an ex-huey crewchief. Saint Peter consults his list. He Smiles & says to the Crewchief, "Take this "silken" robe & golden staff & enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The crewchief enters into Heaven with his robe & staff. next it's the priest's turn. He stands erect & booms out, " I'm Father Bob, pastor of Saint Mary's in Pasadena for the last 43 years. Saint Peter consults his list. He says to the priest,"Take this "cotton" robe & "wooden" staff & enter the Kingdom of Heaven. "Just a minute", says the good father. That man was just a Crewchief & he gets a silken robe & a golden staff, & I only get a cotton & wood? how can that be? Saint Peters says, Up here we go by results, When you preached --- people slept. When he flew --- people prayed.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 11:09:24 (MDT)
Alvis, I will try this without names. One morning a young Crew Chief got up and with his gun in hand heading to the 1st flight slick along with his gunner. Like any day there it was still dark and getting things together for the Pilots to arrive. Like many he had his love back home for which he had the reason to keep going. Still riding behind the guns as the Heuy flew into the sky that morning he knew so many days of seeing the green tracers passing by it was another day in Vietnam without any promise of seeing Lane again. Than later in the day his helmet shock and his thought it was the Tiger grunt smacking him in the head. Moments later he felt what he thought was swet on his face and wiped it with his clean gray flight gloves. Then looked again to see them covered with blood as he lost the ability to see from blood in his eyes. Than keying his mike to let everyone else know he was hit. By than he could feel the pain in his head as they flew to try and get him help. His blood mixing in the air of the cabin & moving forward to the pilots and windsheilds. He made it and had a one way ticket home as they took him away from Nam to a hospital in Okanowa. As so often the heuy flew home to Lane missing a member and for the guys there it was a matter of cleaning up the blood and looking at the helmet seeing where the bullet past through. While in the hospital he felt lucky knowing that the bullet hit part of the aircraft first tearing off the jacket of the 7.39mm and glad for the helmet where it past throw the visor cover, outer layer and into the plain old stiraform before hitting his skull only causing a dent in it above his eyes. He was still not sure how to handle the vison lost in one of his eyes either as the doctors were telling him he could go home after healing a bit. Than one day while laying in his bed he got mail. Not any mail, but the one that all who had sweethearts back home, the dear John letter. For a moment he maybe thinking that the bullet should have finished him off as his heart sank lower. Maybe it was the moment he changed directions from the free ticket home. After fighting with the doctors they decided to let him come home. It was his new home, the 129th AHC. Like many by than he didn't want to leave and extended his tour. Sadly to some that day came the end of January 73 that they had took the war away from us and our new home. This is what I remember now about the incident but don't remember the mission or who the pilots or gunner was. Just a friend I knew who one day was gone and than walked back into the flight houtch where so many never came back. He has been one of many that I wondered what happened to after we all were gone. Maybe I am just thinking of the stories and things that happened which missed Bill's book. To finish this story I would need the names & dates. OK, Fred, how did I do? Guess this is my first attempt writing outside of me, but reading your post brought back memories too. I got my dear John letter there as well.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 09:41:03 (MDT)
He slowly placed his beer on the stand near his bunk.The fan in the corner blew the hair of the lovely young lady,as his eyes took her in.It was strange how these young ladies appeared in the company area at night as the compound was well guarded.In her sing song voice,she made it clear this was love for a price.Being close to payday, he was flush with cash.He had flown all day, drank a few with his buddies and other crews,but the loneiness never went away.He knew even with this young lady,the loneiness would stay. On the stand,next to his warming beer, lay the last letter from his girl. The letter was three weeks old.A bland letter it was,not like the hot loving letters he had been recieving.They had slowly grown colder, more distant. The lovely young lady stepped futher into the room,senseing perhaps another customer. "My name Lin" she said," I treat you good, numba one good time".He slowly took in her beauty,argueing with himself.Picking up the beer,but never taking his eyes off her, he told her to no thanks,in a kind way. He was just to tired and knew he would miss the money in the morning plus have regrets.He picked up the letter and read it for the hunderdeth time,wishing ..wishing.
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 18:54:33 (MDT)
About time you got home Dave...The way I hear it..the fish have almost starved to death without you feeding them off the hook.LOL, welcome home buddy
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 18:23:46 (MDT)
Phils "509" site now list the "129th ahc" book, for sale. You guys are now international authors.
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 14:23:19 (MDT)
Dave Powers,"wellcome Back" (Kotter) LOL. Kudos on the Missionary Work.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 13:17:43 (MDT)
Dave that sounds good about Columbia now, I was there with thier marines after nam. Even wearing thier uniforms didn't mean you were safe. One of my friends lost his watch off his wrist while stuck in traffic. They told him he was lucking leaving the window open as they had people who lost there ring fingers doing that. I miss the good old days now even if it was getting shot at. Only there maybe two weeks and nothing else happened in Cartahaina (Spell?). Still have a couple pictures of the Fort & Bay, wow were the girls pretty, LOL
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 10:27:13 (MDT)
Just got home from Medellin, El Penol (Guatape) and Pereida, Colombia. Was down visiting some missionary friends and did a little construction work for them. Bruno, I guess you could say I was on "vacation"... we did do some sightseeing, too. Rained a lot, but we had some nice days. The Colombian president has really cracked down on the drug trade there, so the locals can actually leave their cities for the countryside without fear now. If only the drug abuse here was lowered, the trade there would be out of business!
USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 09:30:19 (MDT)
Alot of commo here lately. Been AWOL because of work. Fred, the 48th are the Jokers. I remember flying on some CA's with them and the 117th back in 66. Also, went to DC for the 20th anniverary of the WALL. Rick England and Sam Hennesse were there also. Stayed in the same hotel with the 1st cav. and met with Hal Moore and Joe Galloway and the rest of the group. Was an experience marching along with them in the verteran's parade. Any of the 67 guys at Lane remember or some pictures of the USO show that had Vicki Car from New Zeland. She was the runner up in the miss universe contest back then or so the said. I remember her singing to one of the guys and in the song over and over sing to him to kiss her. finally at the end of the song he laid a big on on her. It was at the EM club. Of, course didn't get alot of shows at Lane back then. Well, enough of the good old days HA! Everyone have safe day. Always A Brother!!
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 07:49:11 (MDT)
Alvis, I remember Lumpy Barnum aka, Mr. Greenjeans, along with a couple round eyes who sang some folk songs. I was told that the donut dollies pissed themselves when their pilots did some hot rodding while taking them back to where ever they came from :>)) I haven't been posting, but I do check in most every day. Simon, my condolences... Bill Jeanes, thanks for the info on the last days of the 129th.
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 18:41:49 (MDT)
Gale-please tell Deb that we're praying for her dad. Fred, doyou want my ***** back...I think it could go to some special 129er:>) L-Gently
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 14:19:20 (MDT)
First Lt Jeanes thanks for the email & posting. Kal, the info you posted is roughly what I am looking at too from the maps Mark had. Just wish they would get some new images as well. Same here on the other side of the hill, I landed there flying on a 180th bird, remember how red the dirt was as we walked to the other side. Also I think I only got out the gate maybe once or twice where the Tiger guys gave me my first taste of Korean food & drink. Maybe that is why I never remembered coming back through the gate. Guys take care and I may well have to crawl to Kokomo this year but will make it somehow. My one brother-in-law takes cemo tomarrow and I hope maybe by Sunday he will feel well enough to maybe get my camper there. Otherwise it maybe a parking area. Take care. PS Larry Lackey's wife said he has been on the road a lot.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 13:28:28 (MDT)
Hello to All--just checking in---Hope everyone had a good weekend------------Arthur Foster--Passed right by your area traveling from brothers house in Cedartown Ga to Ft Benning area to see mother and others this weekend and did not realize it until I got back. ----------"LT"--Good to see you post again--long time.-----Bruno--yo-------Alvis----talked with Gary Brannon in Ga--He said Peter Darling still around and married Rose--(old flame) and also Ben Rodgers still at same house in Columbus--due to retire soon.-----------Gary doing better this year but still 20% lung capacity-too many years in the mill after Nam adding to issues but he expects to finaly get to 100% VA this year.-------------------------------------------- snoopy--593
Gary Woodward <>
Memphis, USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 13:15:23 (MDT)
Ken Strong,... Looking at Google Earth again, I believe that our south "H", takeoff and landing pad, is located at 13d 48' -- 109d 05' 50". and the church was at aprox 13d 48' 38" -- 109d 05' 25".. On Google the circle with the "i" in it, denoting Lane, looks like it is about where the north "H", hook pad, was located. 13d 48' 34" -- 109d 06'... If you look in the bottom left corner of Google Earth, you should see the coordinates there that show where your cursor, pointer, is located. From the resolution of the pictures that Google displays, it appeard that the landscape has been altered quite a bit over the years and all locations are just memory based guesses. Happy searching.. C U in Kokomo.. Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
St Joseph, MI USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 08:41:42 (MDT)
Good Morning Adders & Canines. Happy labor day:-). Hope everyone is safe. Bill, I don't recall the tail numbers myself.However I can definetly say some of the 129th slick ended up with D Troop, 3rd Sqdn, 5th Cav, 9th Inf Div @ Ft Lewis,WA.That was my PCS after Brooks Army Medical Hospital. Just for your info.Take Care & don't run out of Left pedal Buddy. Dawg 426 Clear.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 08:12:24 (MDT)
Fellow Bulldawg's - At the encouragement of a few of brothers, I am updating, for the record, the final days of the 129th in RVN, i.e. March 1973. I did once before but since the current flight log runs for a year only and my aging mind does not remember where my last entry is in the archieves - so I retrans. I assumed duties as the last service platoon leader in December 1972. My first five months was with 1st lift. I was then transfered to the Snake platoon under Bunker Bruce Powell. During January-February, we began the "turning process". My staff had already put our TOE in conexs and had been working out of execess for several weeks. I'm talking tool shop sets, skid shoes, even engines!! We turned 4 slicks over to the VNAF at Phu Cat. The Cobras left country in January. We left Lane AHP around late January-early February and set back up at Camp Holloway, Pleiku. We flew the rest of the slicks to Hotel 3, Saigon the last week of February and threw the books at LT Zachary, a fellow AMOC grad - boy were the birds a mess and was he mad. Not only did we not have door guns, but no parts, filters, etc. We continued flying missions and all had long overflown the PE's. They were destined for Air America and the Freedom Force Enformcement crowd. I DROSed 3 March 73. I'm sorry to say I cannot address any specific tail numbers and after 34 years my memory for faces and names are weak. There is one exception, Ron Paye. No matter how much alcohol or drugs I take, that ugly ex-marine's face remains. :) I retired from active duty 1991. I'm here in Tampa, Florida working at USSOCOM, MacDill AFB. I still remember some details that might be amusing but I wont take up space doing it here. Hit my email and I go VFR direct. Day phone is 813.826.2325. God Bless each and everyone of my brave Bulldawgs and GBA. "LT" Bill Jeanes, Bulldawg52
Bill Jeanes <>
Valrico, FL USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 07:27:43 (MDT)
anyone remember the "show" we had on the other side of the hill in late 71? Was it "Miss America"?
USA - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 05:59:33 (MDT)
Paul, check my log on Aug 23rd...........................
USA - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 21:49:17 (MDT)
Ken ;i only remember one gate,but i don't remember being over on the other side of the hill very many times, if ever.barely remember the chapel being there. see ya in kokomo. can anybody confirm the site numbers? i have us on 429w and the engineers on 329w is that correct?
paul mcgrath
lasalle , il USA - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 20:54:52 (MDT)
Flight I have a question, how many gates did lane have? I have been looking at the map Mark gave me in July and comparing different things on it compared to the Area maps we used. Than just when I think I had it all figured out I got on Google Earth going to what I had marked before. Now they have it marked maybe less than a click NE of what I thought. From Marks map I got it in the middle of the two. If you have not looked as they have so many LZs shown now like English, Uplift, Crystal, Plus pictures from Camp Holloway in 69. For the guys who were talking at Mark's about not shooting at everything they saw because of cleaning the guns. I am sorry, while talking to Dale Wysocki who put my M-60 together for me w/sawed off barrel. By that time no one cleaned anything except the M16s because they hardly worked clean, LOL
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 18:10:40 (MDT)
Lou, Simon says (I just love saying that) he had trouble with the disc also untill he downloaded into his (documents)PC. Now he says its fine. When Susan gets home, I will check out that method.
USA - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 14:58:42 (MDT)
Bill;Check was for goods already recieved thanks. great book. i even recognized a few things in some of the pics.haven't had time to sit and read it with moving and all.Flight will see you guys at kokomo.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Sunday, September 02, 2007 at 15:14:39 (MDT)
Hi Phil sorry about your MOTHER I know how it is I lostmy Mother a short time back & Istill think about her & there one thing she will never have pain or hurt again & I theank that the DAY will come & you will be with her. Glenda & ME have you & your FAMILY in are prayers
Arthur Foster <tigerwagon@hughesnet>
Hogansville, ga USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 19:35:25 (MDT)
Hi Phil sorry about your MOTHER I know how it is I lostmy Mother a short time back & Istill think about her & there one thing she will never have pain or hurt again & I theank that the DAY will come & you will be with her. Glenda & ME have you & your FAMLEY in are prayers
Arthur Foster <tigerwagon@hughesnet>
Hogansville, ga USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 19:32:35 (MDT)
Phil, Iam sorry that you lost your Mother. I am praying for you and yout Family
J. W. Wilson
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 17:53:32 (MDT)
hmmm,Ken you gave me a thougth. The 48th ahc did do a few CAs with the ROK WhiteHorse and Tigers combined..and the 129th.I believe they were called the Jokers.
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 16:54:06 (MDT)
Ken, thats not the 60th ahc. I dont think its the 61st Lucky Stars either.It sure as heck looks like a ROK meatball on the tail boom, but cant see it well enough.Jay,versus Jae, put some enlarged stills on the ROK site.
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 16:50:58 (MDT)
Hi FLIGHT i FOUND A PLACE TO GET A SUPPER 8 LAMP FOR MY PROJECTER & WILL TRY TO GET THEM ON DVD & SEND MARK ONE & this new high speed inter net is nice it beat dile up well got to go Art
Arthur Foster <tigerwagon@hughesnet>
Hogansville, ga USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 14:01:58 (MDT)
Good afternoon Flight! Just an update on the VA Doctors from last time. My doctor called me Friday to tell me if I wanted to I could stay on the Morphine, but she also agreed that other doctors there will assume everything is caused by that. I said I was down to half already and would stop when they run out. She also noted that I take Advil, said I need to not be taking anything for pain four weeks prior. Dale Wysocki is still sending me pictures he has scanned and I hope to be able to collect them of to send to Mark. Last of all I saw the tailboom markings in the film and wasn't sure either. When I was there the 60th AHC took part in large CAs moving both Tiger & White Horse into areas from out of Miami Beach. Take care Brothers and have a safe weekend!
-Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 12:41:09 (MDT)
Hi Gang! Sorry I've been away lately - been on the road earning money for my kids to "borrow"!! lol (Money doesn't buy happiness - but it keeps the kids calling!). Still no final word on the 08 reunion location, but Tom is working hard to pin it down. I'll let you all know the moment I find out! Ron, glad you got home safe and hope you had a great time! Ray - I got the cd and check - thanks! Paul Brown - got your check - but can't remember if I sent you a book or if your ordering a new one. Let me know. Hope everyone has a safe and fun Labor Day!!! Bill
Bill Wolf <>
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 10:49:40 (MDT)
Phil: Liz and I are sad to hear th loss of your Mother. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Hope all the 129th Family has a safe labor day weekend. I will be working and Liz has an assoiate in from London to travel with her for the next few weeks.Also, Mark send me your new address.
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 07:48:38 (MDT)
Fred and all I found that if you save the "you tube" link that Jae posted to your computer you can then open it and copy to cd or dvd.Sorry I can't make Kokomo but got to get the groceries to the tourists Later Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 06:56:32 (MDT)
hmmm, glad it worked for you Simon. I cant get them to work on Susan PC. We are still trying to find out the problem.
USA - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 05:50:21 (MDT)
Morning flight. Fred thank you so much for the CD. Great footage and what a thing to turn up after all these years. As you've mentioned on here interesting markings on some of the Hueys. Looking like we're heading off to Derbyshire today to go to a country fair at Chatsworth House. If you google it you'll find a magnifent country house owned by the Devonshire family. Might have to have a cream tea sitting on the lawn, with perhaps some buttered crumpets!! Bye for now, Simon.
Simon Johnson <>
Mellor, Lancashire UK - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 02:24:50 (MDT)