hey ralph,dont you read the post here? You have came in here several times, spouting things that are already in the works.We dont need you as a go between.Phil is more than welcome to post on this site.In fact,several folks in here would love to see a post from him,perhaps a return of the courtesy we extended him in posting on his site.Ralph,we thank you( or I do) in your efforts towards the 509 bird,but you are starting to sound like a pimp.I see you didnt post anything about the kia names,dont you know about it yet?And while I am on a "tell it like it is binge",the vhpa can kiss my stinking butt.gib( guys in back) are not welcome there.Yet we gib,welcome all pilots.connect the dots!
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 22:55:13 (MDT)
Fred......Might be easier to get Phil to bring the "509" back here for a get together.
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 22:47:04 (MDT)
hmmm,gears starting to turn here...maybe I will drop a note to discorvery channel or the wings channel.hmmm......
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 22:40:45 (MDT)
the only way i can see a 129th reunion in england is if the discovery channel underwrites it,or some other source.true,the flight expense isnt that great,but start adding in hotels,food,cab fare,loose womens,beer,passports,smokes,beer,loose womens,a vist to the docs,things can add up.Besides,the only way England ties in with the 129th is thru the 509 bird.Still....wouldnt it be cool?
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 22:37:33 (MDT)
.......GOT THIS E-MAIL THE OTHER DAY.................I have been fortunate to assist Phil Connolly in the restoration and flying of UH-1H, Tail number 72-21509. The old girl is alive and well at age 32…wearing a new frock and has been given a proper make-over. The aircraft bears 129th colors and will be shown off at airshows and other events. BBC has filmed it several times…and more showings are in the works. The Discovery Channel has also filmed it flying. 509 now shows a name of “Miss Jo” in honor of Phil’s wife. Phil deserves a lot of credit for the way he has done this project and honored all you guys that served in the 129th….and the rest of us that flew in Vietnam. He is showcasing the aircraft as being a Vietnam Veteran of the 129th and reminds people of its service…and the crews who flew there. I would suggest some thought be given to holding a reunion in the UK and invite Phil and 509 down for some flying…..there are many excellent aviation museums in the UK that would be receptive to such a thing. Airfares are as cheap to the UK as most airfares within the USA….thus costs are quite reasonable. Phil can be reached at pconnolly@huey.co.uk . My contact info: Ralph Chappell (VHPA Life Member) 336-671-5800 (Winston-Salem, NC.) captrechappell@yahoo.com...................................
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 18:12:43 (MDT)
Fred they probably couldn't read them if they wanted to they were using them target pratice. Almost like skeet and you were the thrower.
Rick England
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 13:16:35 (MDT)
The sky was blue , the winds calm.It was hot and humid on the ground.No sweat,we were flying at 5000 feet,high enough to avoid small arms fire,and it was cool air blowing thru the Huey's cabin.Trying to light a smoke was difficult,viewing the green mountianous terrain wasnt.We had came down with a mission of throwing out Chu Hoi leaflets,had landed to pick up some ROKs and the papers.They were to show us the AO where we would be throwing out the leaflets. Over the wopping of the blades I heard the pilot speaking on the intercom.We were to throw the papers out just one side of the ship to avoid intangling our tail rotor."No shit i thought.No wonder he is an officer and pilot while I am just a gib( guy in back)"Then he goes on to say that we were approching the target area and we were to get ready.Leaving my M-60 in the rest position,Making sure my chicken plate was succured on the seat where I usually "wore it",I swung around,using the vertical bar,into the passenger compartment.It felt strange flying in the cabin,instead of my gunners well.Hooking back up to the intercom,we started to cut piles of leaftes loose.The pilot and the ROK agreed that this was the spot,so on came the command to start throwing out the papers.As I leaned out the cabin,I saw a hodgepodge of forrest, grassland,trails,all indian country,not a sign of human habitation.The greens and browns of that rugged country blended into a beatiful vista.It was kinda fun,throwing out ,littering if you will, those stacks and stacks of papers.Noticeing little green bugs coming our way,in that lazy curved path all of their own,I heard the crewchief say,"We have incomming fire sir,incoming,incoming! permission to fire back sir!""Negitive,negitive",was the pilots reply." We are on a peace mission"."Tell them that" I thought.Anyway,they kept firing and we kept throwing out leaftels for a few more minutes,with a huge pucker factor, on my part anyway.Mission accomplished,we turned and flew toward home,leaflets fluttering towards the ground,green bugs coming up to meet them in a joyious union of bullets and paperwork.shrug,just another day in the nam.
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 07:13:53 (MDT)
for any that know of,or are hurricane suvuviors,in need of dd-214,check this out.http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/Katrina.html#content. Amazingly,there is a 6 day turn around.Oh,not sure about the # content,so you might try it both ways if one doesnt work.
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 07:05:50 (MDT)
Sorry 129th ers. Am tired of wading thru that S---! Have a good weekend!! Congrats Judith.
USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 06:58:44 (MDT)
TO ALL DRUG & MEDICATION HACKERS: My sex life is fine! I don't have HIV or end stage AIDS! Blood pressure is in the normal range! Anxiety level is not bad! Do not need to shed any pounds and I like being bald. I am sure this goes for most of us THAT BELONG on this site. SO STAY OFF!
Lake Norman, NC USA - Friday, September 30, 2005 at 06:57:22 (MDT)
Sorry I have been absent for a while, crashed my computer and lost everything I had stored in it, addresses ect. I just wanted to let everyone close to Indianapolis know that the Traveling Wall is in Greenfield IN 4H grounds this weekend.
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Thursday, September 29, 2005 at 12:49:29 (MDT)
Mt heart goes out to you and your wife Herril.Perhaps it not as bad as it sounds.Hopefully only a room or two are damaged,not the entire structure,lets hope it the garage at that.God bless herril.
USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 21:26:11 (MDT)
Got word about the house today. Roof severly damaged which means everything inside is ruined. Brought all non replacables with me when I left. We are all safe and healthy, although somewhat depressed at this point. I am going to try and get in Friday to salvage a few clothes for me and wife. She has been working a couple hundred miles from here with the people they evacuated from her nursing home. Owners have offered us a paid place to stay until we can go home. I thought that was very nice of them. Take care folks. and I will be in touch whenever I can find a computer.
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 19:59:33 (MDT)
Congrats Judy on your award, There still some good people out there willing to help. Called my Senators waiting for them to return calls. just plain tired, but not going to give in to them
Lou Rags
Dover, De USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 16:33:42 (MDT)
hello to all. mark to say like dinteven cover how i feel about it it is beaitful. pricless every i go and people ask me about it and tell me what a grate job he done on carving it such deatal. i take it every where i go i try to get you somr pic of it it something i never forget can never thank you enoughh my brother love ya . i dont post much not sure why. my consler is a bit worryed about my depression but i work on it i love you all, and my prayes go out to you all take care a brother always mark not sure if i have your new e mail address like i say so many people ask me about it an love howw it was made such deatal thank you so much mark abrother always ray
Ray <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 14:04:02 (MDT)
USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 12:22:17 (MDT)
Thank you my friends, but let's all forget the award stuff now and get back to the real world: Harrell, as Rick said, let us know if we can help you in any way. Lou, what's up with the VA? Fred, our arms are around you. Back at ya Mark. Ron, get on here and post once in a while...and you to C.P. Geez! L-Gently
USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 07:56:54 (MDT)
I think my pc moniter is going bad so if you dont hear from me,connect the dots.
USA - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 at 07:40:44 (MDT)
The is the web address for photos of the walking stick I made to be sold during the 129th Christmas auction........ http://spaces.msn.com/members/THE-257.........check it out!!!!!!!!!.....I may have another one finished by Christmas also... ask brother RAY if he likes his!!!!!!!!! .always a brother,
USA - Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 20:17:43 (MDT)
Harell if you need anything my # is 623 388 2628. My e-mail is in the contacts. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 09:05:23 (MDT)
Hello Flight. Alex, the grandkids are great and thanks for the compliments. Mark, I feel the same as you Brother. I wish Larry was still here so we could go over old times with him. Ray, how's things going Brother? Hope everyone else is doing well.....Rob
Rochester , NY USA - Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 07:18:25 (MDT)
Hi write this as tears blind my sight. Just watched the show, "Tears Of The Sun". Bruce Willis. It wasn't the action pack, pyrotyknics, the choppers, the dicpline of the Navy Seals, the ending, that brought this on. It was the thought of man helping man. Brother helping brother. Something all of you did. I am reminded of a letter Larry wrote home from Vietnam. In it he stated that he wanted to stop flying, but when he would go out to pick you guys up, and see the look in your eyes, he just couldn't stop flying. He stated he had to go out and get you. The movie reminded me of that because the Navy Seals diverted thier mission to save some of the people of Nigeria. I am here tonight to tell you "THANKS" and and I am very "GRATFUL" for the courage that each and everyone of you had, and still have. All of you are my "HEROS" and thanks for taking the place of Larry for me............always a thankful, and greatful brother.......I don't think I will be able to sleep tonight............Gently, congrats and thanks to you sister, Cue, what can I say man, Bill W, rock and roll.......Robbie I miss and love you brother.........
USA - Tuesday, September 27, 2005 at 00:07:09 (MDT)
Harold, six years ago some of the houses in my neighbohood flooded and I lost the buildings on my hog farm due hurricane Floyd. I know that you will feel despair with your lost, in time things will start getting a little better each day. Congtats Gentry
J.W. Wilson
Kinston, N.C. USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 20:38:43 (MDT)
Congradulations Gently. You deserve the award for all your deication and hard work you do all year long. Proud to have you part of the 129th family. Well flight sounds like Bill & Kat wolf have some wonderful ideas for the 129th. There is alot of hard work ahead. I told Bill about 129th Asso. and all the work Fred Alvis has done for us. Harrell just glad you made it out alive. It's tough to lose everything. But, it will get better. Wink glad your playing golf. Could never hit a ball and then go chase it!! But, I know your getting better at the game. Well you all have a great evening. Always A Brother Alex Ps. Good to see you post Ron.
USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 19:07:33 (MDT)
Congrats, Gently!!!! Way to go!! Update on the book: Joe Kline has given me permission to use his "Gods Own Lunatics" drawing my ship (322) on the cover of the book at no cost. He loves the idea and wants a copy when done! Again, I ask ur patience as I get organized, there is a lot of legal and technical stuff that has to be done to make this the quality we all want!!! Update of PFC Wolf (82nd Airborne) - he is now in Lake Charles and haven't heard from him for a few days, but suspect he's busy. Will update when word is recieved! Also met with reps from the 92nd AHC today in nearby Manitou Springs. They are having a reunion here next month and I volunteered to help them out. Turns out their video person bailed out on them, so Kat & I are doing all their videos, photography, and setting up a reproduction site so folks can exchange photos. They were some what in shock that someone would do this for free and said to send thanks to the 129th!!!! Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion.com>
USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 18:02:44 (MDT)
Slow hand salute to the crew of 932..... Gently, congratulations and you deserve it. Harrell, That's quite awhile to wait to see how things are. I hope things work out ok for you. Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 17:19:18 (MDT)
Well guys, we took a direct hit from Rita. Home is (well was) about a mile from where western eyewall passed over. Hard to think of 30 years of accumulation gone. They say it will be a month before anyone is allowed back in to see what is left of property. I suppose that gives the looters time to help themselves. My camp on the lake survived but we will have no power for a couple of weeks. At least I have a place to go. Take care folks take care. will check in later. Harrell (Cue, formerly of Groves Tx)
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 12:25:56 (MDT)
way to go gently, you deserve the recognition. don't think it wasn't hard for us to keep the secret. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 11:38:59 (MDT)
way to go gently,an i would think if not for your hard work in the past, a lot of us would be wondering aimlessly. congrads kid o.>>>>>>alex good to here your're going to get some of your hours cut back.an i also hope they know what kind of employee they have in you. oh yes playing plenty of golf, just about every day an loving it!>>>>>bill sounds great go with it. who knows maybe a movie can be made of it. very little has been told about the B&C GUNSHIPS .I CAN SEE IT NOW, STARRING BARRY, FLASH BACK, WINKLER. HOWS THAT SOUND GANG.HEEEEEEEEEEE.WE CAN GET MY COUSIN HENRY WINKLER THE PRODUCE AN DIRECT IT.IF ANYONE NEEDS ME I'LL BE PRACTISING MY CATING SKILLS WINK 3/69-10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 09:57:36 (MDT)
MD USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 09:22:22 (MDT)
congrats Judith you are always there for us and thank you love you sister. Be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 09:07:35 (MDT)
Gently, YOU ROCK GIRL !!!!!
Jean & C.P.
USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 08:53:50 (MDT)
congrads and a cyber hug to our hardworking sister.
USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 07:50:51 (MDT)
I am posting an e-mail I recieved from Joe Campbell. September 26, 2005 Good Morning Brother Ron, I am very happy to inform you that on September 24, 2005,at the State Convention of the Vietnam Veterans of America held in Wausau, WI., Judith Anne Singer was awarded the Wisconsin Associate Vietnam Veteran of the Year 2005. This is th highest honor an Associate member can receive. She was nominated by the officers of the Wisconsin Vietnam Veterans of America. The award was presented to Judith: "For her extraordinary achievements. commitment and contributions, in service to America, to the betterment of the quality if lives of others" Thank You & God Bless, Brother Joe******** **Way to go Gently. You deserve it and I am proud to call you my friend and sister. Love ya. Ron
Ron Paye
Indy, USA - Monday, September 26, 2005 at 07:40:35 (MDT)
With prayers & deepest respects to the 1st crew lost & also to all those who "gave all" & especially Gold Star Mothers. >>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 21:42:32 (MDT)
slow hand salute rendered...with deepest respect
USA - Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 19:27:09 (MDT)
Flight: Thought I would let you know today was GOLD STAR MOTHER'S DAY and on Friday Oct. 7th will be 39years ago that we lost our first crew. ROBERT CHAMBERLIN, HARRY WHETZEL, ROBERT GILLIAM and JOHNNY NEAL. THEY NEVER WILL BE FORGOTTEN. Always A Brother Alex
USA - Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 19:01:23 (MDT)
Hey gang, some of you are wanting to start sending me stuff for the book already. Please hold up for a bit while I get organized. I'll also be sending out a mailing (snail +/or email) with info and forms, etc. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 14:16:40 (MDT)
Flight: Wink apprecicate the advice. Hasve two back to back sessions with the ptsd Doc's on tuesday. Hope your getting for some golf? Have alot of evacuee's from LA. and Texas in our area. Starting to get alot of the high winds and rain. Just hope all our Brother and Sisters are safe form all the hurricanes. Don Lp issues ain't good. Hope everything pans out good for you. Usually you get stuck working like dog. We are suooused to be making some major changes in our store with personnel. Means I am not going to see 50 hours a week for a little longer. Alvis appreciate the info on our bird in England. Is the a web site that has the picture of the chopper on it? Robbie appreciate the pictures of your grand kids Liz and I always look forward to those pictures. Also hope your Brothers test came back negitive. Hope the rest of the 129th Family have a safe weekend. Always A Brother Alex
USA - Sunday, September 25, 2005 at 10:30:58 (MDT)
I went,I came home,I was profoundly changed and haunted,the goverenment says it didnt happen.Or,to sum that up...sprayed and betrayed.
USA - Saturday, September 24, 2005 at 17:46:02 (MDT)
FIRST DRAFT OUTLINE!!! Here is my proposed outline for the 129th book (title is still in the works). Take a look, give me feedback (or forever hold your peace! lol). Not sure how this will look (formated) when forwarded to the Flight Log, but it should be readable. Part 1 - A dedication page Part 2 - Introduction (why we put the book together, what we hope to accomplish with it) Part 3 - A short history of the 129th Part 4 - Our war stories, poems, etc. Part 5 - "Then & Now" - one pagers featuring 129th members with a "before and after" photo Part 6 - The Ships - spotlights some of the unique ships of the 129th Part 7 - Remembering - pages covering those we lost Part 8 - The Restoration - a feature about the 129th ship being restored in England Part 9 - Epilog - a wrap up and thoughts for the future - a sort of "the next generations of helo soldiers Part 10 - Contact and Support page - information on how to contact various groups, support the restoration, support the reunions, etc. Part 11 - Index I intend to use LOTS of photos. I also intend that this will be professionally published so that it is in a high quality end product that we all deserve. OK...now YOUR turn - give me your thoughts!!! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 24, 2005 at 12:52:43 (MDT)
Hey gang, just a couple updates....I contacted the 92nd AHC who is having a reunion next month in Manitou Springs, CO which is about 20 minutes from my home in Colorado Springs. Offered them any assistance I could on behalf of the 129th. Turns out that the person that was supposed to do their video movie for the reunion "bailed out" on them. I offered to do it for them and to loan them the projection equipment. My son, PFC James Wolf, is still in New Orleans (with 82ns Airborne). Says they were ready to go back to Ft Bragg, but no one had arranged transportation!!!! It seems the army hasn't changed much!! lol As far as the 129th book, I am working on the basic outline and will share that with you all here for feedback. I sure don't want to do this in a vacumm, so please provide feedback as I post stuff. My goal is to have the book in print well before the next VHCMA reunion. If you've ever written a book and had it published, you know that will be a short timeline!! But WE ALL will do it!!! Take care. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion.com>
USA - Saturday, September 24, 2005 at 08:26:47 (MDT)
Hello Vet Friends' member! Vet Friends.com welcomes marion price who served in the Army with the following units: 129TH AHC****I got this maybe someone knows him????*******Fred tthanks for the pics what an memorial for our missing ones. Its a good job they did on the the ship.*****My e-mail is messed up I can recieve but not send.FYI. Fight be careful out there.
Rick England
USA - Saturday, September 24, 2005 at 04:20:55 (MDT)
ALEX, I am fighting an LP issue right now ................ will know more Monday
Don Miller
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 23:19:04 (MDT)
I am glad my web site has been helpfull. and I REALLY hope all the info on it is now correct. it was something I wanted to do for a long time but was not sure how to create a web page till I had a chat with a fellow genealogist that dared me to try making a page. so I jumped in. I still have a lot to learn about html but I can be taught. take care everyone and I will see you in Phoenix. (yes I am already planning for it). Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 23:15:51 (MDT)
Yes Fred. I sure did. She looks great and thanks to all that helped get that job done. You are correct fred when you say, The boys of the lost 129th are flying again. Thank you for all the work you do for the 129th.........always a brother.......
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 20:49:57 (MDT)
Mark,did you recieve the 509 pics I sent?
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 20:07:12 (MDT)
C P, I forwarded your Email to Phil.He has already responded,saying he WILL take care of that next week. Thanks for the heads up.
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 12:44:24 (MDT)
Wink,there has to be a special place for war vets.Yes, were not all angels,some of us are little devils,but all of those I know have a special place in their heart for the things that count.If not praying every night,and not going to church every sunday, bars me, then so be it.Perhaps Feddlers green is just a way stop on the journey afterwards,or maybe its a small slice of heaven where you dont have to be so pefect,now,then or before.I have done some bad things in my life,hopefully the few good things I have somehow managed to do will balance things out.Perhaps I will just be left at fiddlers green to welcome all the newbys.I have walked my own path,some of it thru dark shadows.I have hurt some very good and kind people,in the years along the way.I believe thats perhaps my most greastest sins.Our actions,or lack of,shouldnt hurt anyone.
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 12:41:14 (MDT)
my heart is sadden by all that i have read on the web site since i left two weeks ago to see my kids in n.y. i often wonder on how long we must fight on after turning from duty from veit nam. it seems endless. i often wonder if the brothers we lost in veit nam are better off.the hardships, the loss of loved ones around us an the newal of old friends since veit nam thier family an loved ones that we have come to know an love.we have done our duty for our country , right or wrong, where others would not.maybe with all that we have gone through an will go through in the future we have a permemnrt place in heaven. i only hope so. fred give sue a big hug an kiss for me an tell she will be missed deeply an that there will be a void at the future reunions without her. my thought an prays go out to popeye an steff. i've only known popeye for a few years becaues of the reunions but i conceder him a friend an brother an if he is leader the way for many of us, well i only hope that i can do it with as much courage as popeye is showing us. i only hpoe that steff knows that she is a part of our family an will continue to come to the reunions because as long as she attends the reunions popeye will also be thier with her. again my heart is sadden by all this an i'm sorry i'm so morbit in my writtins. alex a piece of advice, the reps. at the va will not help any futher than they have. if they attempt to help you any futher the rep. could loss his job. that why after putting your claim in you should go to the dav or other service org. thats what there, ther for. they will proceed with your claim an eliminate a lot of the road block. they are working for you not the vawink 3/69- 10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 10:12:23 (MDT)
Fill up your cars and trucks flight.Rita has plowed thru the oil fields out in the gulf,causing many to shut down.The cost of fuel will RISE AGAIN.
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 09:33:45 (MDT)
Mission accomplished.I wish to thank those who have helped,either thru their sources or e-mails correcting my many mistakes.Taint much what I did,but I derive great personal satisfaction for being part of this.Don Miller and Colorado Dave both come to mind.Thanks.Fellas,the names are painted on the 509 bird.Not only are they painted,but painted on BOTH DOORS( cargo doors),in easy to spot and read letters.THANK YOU PHIL.The pictures I am forwarding on arnt espically good ones,they are a bit to far away.The one close up isnt really close enough but if you try real hard you can read each name.Don Millers site was invaluable as was the kia/mia site here.This is something we can all be very proud of,including the friends and family of our brothers.I can see in my minds eye folks gathered around the 509 bird at air shows,and seeing the cost of our unit,our struggle in the airwar,our loss of friends and brothers.I can see it being a focal point,places where it is.I think this is a fanstastic memorial.The boys are flying again.
USA - Friday, September 23, 2005 at 08:28:03 (MDT)
hoping your feeling better Bill. I dont think i would be telling folks that i returned from calfornia with a blocked intestine tho...chuckle.hey,the book thing is your baby,run with it as you see fit. There is some excellent writting done already in the war stories section. Someone in there has a golden pen,Lurch perhaps? Watching your post about your son with great interest,I hope he sees or is involved in nothing that will "haunt" him in the years to come.One of out sister helicopter units is having a reunion in Manitou Springs in oct.Perhaps you can do a deal with them on a dvd ,like the excellent one you did for us.Best of luck,alvis
USA - Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 23:15:54 (MDT)
Fred S....... I think what that means is that the "HOW, WHERE, and WHY" is incomplete as stated by the US Gov.In the Loss report. If you read the Loss Report in the Memory section the crew was never found , nor was their ship. Only 1 out of the 4 families accepted the indentidy details of the remains returned in 1990........hope this is of some help to you./.....................always a brother.........
USA - Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 18:25:13 (MDT)
QUESTION.....In the 129th MIA/POW section...said "The details surrounding the Loss Incident of these four men, as stated by the U.S. Government, are still in question" Why are the government reports in question......someone ask me that and I didn`t have a answer...can someone explain it to me.
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 15:47:56 (MDT)
Howdy Flight! Sounds like everyone enjoyed the Kokomo reunion!! I taught in California last week and got home on Friday. On Sunday started getting stomach pain and ended up in the hospital for four days - turned out I had a blocked intestine. They were able to clear it without surgery!!! Just got home today and feel good, but tired. Sounds like no one has any objections to me taking the lead on the 129th book projects. As I envisioned the concept put forward, it would be a brief history of the 129th and then our individual "war stories", poems, etc. I would also like to have a section that has a one page bio for each of us with a photo. I'll be putting together a mailing to go out to all 129th'ers with info and how to submit information. I think it will be a good fund raiser for both the 129th helo in England and our group. Alex - I have tenitis (ringing in the ears). About 10 years ago, had my ears check by a doctor thru our city police risk management unit (hearing loss is a presumed on-the-job-injury for cops). The Dr. said it was a combination of VN (machine gun, engine noise, and wind) and being a cop (gun shots, sirens, and wind). Fortunately for me, he attributed most of it to the City as he knew the most the VA would proably do is send me to a school on how to speak in sign language!!!! Take care all!! PS.. My son, PFC Wolf (82nd Airborne) is still in New Orleans and at this moment are seaking shelter from Rita. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion.com>
USA - Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 15:02:37 (MDT)
Appreciate the advice on ther hearing. Will have to see if I can change over to the DVA. We have a Tenn. Vetearns affairs at the VA. Thats whom been processing our claims. Have an appointment at PTSD center this morning. They are working with me one on one right now. Do to my work shedule I can't go to group meetings. Harrell get as far away as you can. We got a dose from Katrina all the way up here. Thought our windows were going to blow out. But, ended up with rain leakage around the windows. Roger Steele whom was a gunner with the 129th 65-66 with in the OLD Guard. Just remember him saying it was a strike unit. Don Miller how is everything going at the Zone. Our new DM is Mike Estes from the Pheonix Area. Finally got my hours down to about 55 a week. Still working on the stress fractured foot. Was told to keep it taped and keep on going. Alvis thanks for the info on Popeye. Well take Brothers and Sisters on the 129th. Those of you in the path of Rita be safe and move out. Alex
Collierville, TN. USA - Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 07:17:35 (MDT)
an interesting note about the honor guard. when I was going thru training at Ft. Useless our class leader was a former honor guard. he resigned from the position because he got a traffic ticket. and would not dishonor the guard by pretending it didn't happen. he got the ticket while off duty, out of uniform, in his own car, and out of state, so no one would have known a thing about it. but he felt that what he had done would bring dishonor to the rest so ......... I have NEVER seen a man wear his uniform with such pride. we could r&r an engine and he looked just like he did in morning formation. later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 21:00:42 (MDT)
I trust you will find this as interesting as I did. I can't vouch for it's total truthfulness, but I don't doubt any of it. 1. How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the Unknowns and why? 21 steps. It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest honor given any military or foreign dignitary. 2. How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk and why? 21 seconds for the same reason as answer number 1 3. Why are his gloves wet? His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle. 4.. Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time and if not, why not? He carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb. After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the rifle to the outside shoulder. 5. How often are the guards changed? Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year. 6. What are the physical traits of the guard limited to? For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5' 10" and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30." Other requirements of the Guard: They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty for the rest of their lives. They cannot swear in public for the rest of their lives and cannot disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way. After two years, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel signifying they served as guard of the tomb. There are only 400 presently worn. The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give up the wreath pin. The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold from their feet. There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt. There are no wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform. Guards dress for duty in front of a full-length mirror. The first six months of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV. All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery. A guard must memorize who they are and where they are interred. Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis {the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame . Every guard spends five hours a day getting his uniforms ready for guard duty. ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM. In 2003 as Hurricane Isabelle was approaching Washington, DC, our US Senate/House took 2 days off with anticipation of the storm. On the ABC evening news, it was reported that because of the dangers from the hurricane, the military members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were given permission to suspend the assignment. They respectfully declined the offer, "No way, Sir!" Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment, it was the highest honor that can be afforded to a serviceperson. The tomb has been patrolled continuously, 24/7, since 1930. I don't usually suggest that many emails be forwarded, but I'd be very proud if this one reached as many as possible. We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve. God Bless and keep them. I Thought this was very interesting and that all Americans should read this.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 18:33:54 (MDT)
Alex Frank is correct. Once the va hearing guy learned my MOS We went straight to the exam room. I am surprised they even discussed it.
Roger Strong
ok USA - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 06:56:43 (MDT)
Alex - It should be automatic 10% if you had an aviation MOS & was around turbine engines. Check with a DAV Rep. they have the poop on it. Hunkered down again in Louisiana. Frank 69/70.
Frank Loveday
Bastrop, La USA - Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 21:20:13 (MDT)
Popeye has lost 20 pounds.He is down to 160.The docs have given him a few months.
USA - Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 20:30:20 (MDT)
Damn, looks like this one is taking aim at us. I will be leaving for a little further north tomorrow afternoon. Being on the coast during a hurricane is not exactly the place to be. Luckily my camp is 120 miles inland, but that might not be far enough. I have a computer there so I can keep up with commo unless we lose power. Have a good one.
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 18:35:06 (MDT)
Flight: Anyone know of any documentation for tennitis of the ears??? Or have a statement that working on or around helicopters contribued to you tennitis. If so can you send me the info. I have a review going with the Veterans Dept. in Nashville. Alex
Collierville, USA - Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 18:13:22 (MDT)
Lou, damn man you have been thru it........... There is hope, until i talk to my senator i was having the same battle, take all of your documentation with you. I wll scan my award papers and email them to you so that you can see the way the DAV and I wrote the last appeal. ......We may have to scramble a few cobra's to get this done..... Your friend Roger
Roger Strong <shotstr825@yahoo. com>
OK USA - Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 00:03:48 (MDT)
here are some interesting stats i ran across.I DO NOT know how accurate they are...of an estimated 2.7 to 3.1 million Americans who served in Vietnam,approximately 1/3(fewer than 1 milion) are alive today.The number of Americans who fasley claim to have served in-country Vietnam number approximately 6 million( down from 9 million in 1985)
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 19:41:21 (MDT)
my brothers,i know you care.We have all been through this.The page in the book of life turns once again.This chapter has ended.I just wish to deal with this privately,its so very intensely personal.I have posted our journey,some of it,with cancer, in these pages.My thoughts,feeling,hurts,and susans,put forth so hopefully someone else doesnt have to make this journey.The road is ugly,its painful,its scarey,its expensive.I have seen things I will never forget and never want to see again.This turn of events has simply got me devastived.Soon my journey begins alone,again.Cancer won,I have lost susan.Susan won her life,and for that i am very thankful.
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 19:26:07 (MDT)
Fred I sorry!! I respect your wishes. Want to let you know were here. Alex
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 18:49:16 (MDT)
Fred; i'm sorry i even brought up the subject.it was just my first reaction which i need to learn to keep to myself.i can understand how hard it is for her as all my family is 1000 miles away or better.i want to pack my bags some times myself but i know that i am a whole lot better off than i was back east. i have 6 grandchildren out there that i have never seen. kind of gets to me sometimes,but then i remember that i've never had to babysit, thank you god. my sincerest appologies for stirring up a hornets nest.looking forward to getting together again paul(a brother i hope)
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 17:39:36 (MDT)
my last words on this subject...Susan is returning to Australia,alone.The chemo saved the patient,it killed the marriage.I am staying in the home we bought together,hopefully for another 5 years,then selling it,giving half to susan.My road from that point is for me alone to travel.There is no anger,no betrayal,no harsh words,no fighting.WE have never once had a fight,not once.Susan is tired,homesick and profoundly changed.I love her dearly,as she,I suppose,still does me.Hopefully,I can keep a handle on my bitternes,my dissapointment and my selfishness at wanting to keep her here with me.She is a good woman,my best friend and my partner.She has to do what ever it is ,she has to do.I am bidding her farewell with love,hugs,my deepest respect,kindness and profound regret.Cancer steals the joy of life first.Its terribly hard on a marriage.Its been just about a year long battle,everydAY full of pain,without reason.If cancer returns,susan will not go thru this again.She is tired,so very tired,soul tired.Sometimes,love just isnt enough.
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 17:14:02 (MDT)
Powerful words from Fred Alvis. I have been with some of our Vietnam Brothers through their fight with cancer and strokes. To see men slowly wither away. I met these brothers and their wives at the VHCMA reunions. I seen Lloyd Godwin and Tommy Magumn struggle with their fight. I have seen Charlie Rains with his fight with cancer. When Fred to us about Susan's cancer I knew what was ahead. The pain and suffering that would be unbearable at times. Now Popeye!! Terminal!! where does it end? Fred Susan will be missed when she returns home. You have a wonderful woman there. A lot of fight in her. I hope you can return with her. Brothers and Sisters these are truly some sad times. I can only pray that they get better. And the Lord bless us and heal our Brothers and Sisters. Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 16:05:29 (MDT)
..A LIL' SOMETHING ABOUT KOKOMO ABOUT THE 129TH....< http://www.kokomotribune.com/story.asp?id=9378# >.....ALWAYS A BROTHE
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 15:15:23 (MDT)
Fred, how I wish you would have shared Susan's thoughts with us at Kokomo...my heart reaches out to you now but it's not enough. After having such a wonderful time at Kokomo with all of you, the web page feels sad today. The importance of our gatherings cannot be stressed enough....look at how much has changed just since June when we attended the flight crew the re-union in TX! We're going to Phoenix for the next re-union, so please start saving and requesting time off from work(3rd week in June)...walk, ride, drive, fly, just get there. Don't pass up another opportunity to gather together...some of us may not be around for too many more gatherings...and we want to see you. Your 129th brothers especially want to see you! If there is a financial concern the Christmas Fund maybe able to help..let me know if that is the case. There is no excuse good enough to not join us. My prayers go out to your brother, Robbie, and for Popeye. Smitty you sound like you need a little extra "something" today..I love you. I'll talk Kokomo later in the week..wish you were all there. Love-Gently
USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 13:44:16 (MDT)
very sorry to hear about Popeye, also about how Susan feels. Fred, if you decide to go just let me know where you are please. Sounds like some quality time was had at Kokomo & hope all have returned safe. Not a lot new from here>>.Respects>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 06:50:18 (MDT)
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, September 19, 2005 at 03:22:02 (MDT)
The sun sparkled off Katherines tears,as they ran down her face.The sun sparkled off of others tears as well,during the bracelet/mia/kia private ceremony,we hold at kokomo.The group hug was espically tight this year,our numbers are shrinking.Laughter bubbled,old stories reminisenced from old friends.Yellow moon rising,turning brite ,casting shadows,campfire smoke lazing across,smelling of old memories and good times.Old friends and brothers,new faces but still old brothers,the angels of the 129th,the ghost of those lost but still loved,unforgotten.Bad times,good times remembered,old warriors at peace.The stars reflected in the easy smiles,the cool of the night warmed by good company.Paul's tears at reception/welcome,Pauls easy laughter at lifes simple joys around a campfire.Marks lighting a cigar,Rons quick hug,gently being her gentle self.Joes easy smile,Gales understated warm friendship.Turkey cooking,flags snapping,old vets walking by.Campfire singing along with guitar melodys,introspection,acceptance,lifes path crossing with friends.Complaints from knees when standing once again,the small bubble of knowing smiles from those around.WE grow old,we grow tired,lifes road maps on our faces.We talk of the next reunion,hoping all will be healthy enough,knowing life grows short.Smile for a minute,laugh for two,looking around at good friends,brothers,sisters,comrads.time for another beer.Reunions are this,they are so much more.time for another beer.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 21:04:56 (MDT)
RON PAYE;mega millions numbers were5,16,41,46,50 and mega ball was 1. winning ticket was sold in nj.8 sold in il matched 4 numbers. check yours paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 20:00:20 (MDT)
For any one who wasn't at Kokomo I now have the honor of wearing both POW/MIA bracelets. They are united again and will remain united as long as I have anything to do with it. I can't tell you how much this means to me to be able to keep them safe. I had a wonderful time at Kokomo as usual. I come away with renewed faith in family. Everyone who was there and who was not just know you are in my heart. Everyone take care until we meet again. Welcome Home and Thanks for all you did. Always a sister.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 19:34:49 (MDT)
for ten thousand reasons,I cannot,at this time,pull up roots and go down under.Its simply impossible.I (we) had planned on doing it 10 years from now,when i retire.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 19:29:20 (MDT)
Fred and Susan, wow guys, don't know what to say. I felt that there was something on your mind at Kokomo Susan. Prayers being raised up for all the 129th.............you all are on my mind and in my heart tonight.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 19:26:49 (MDT)
Home safe and sound from Kokomo. Wow what a wonderful time. Missed each and every one of you who were not there. Would be great if at one time that we "ALL" could get together. Wouldn't that be something!!!!!....Now, if any of the ones that were at Kokomo come in here and try and say something about me. None of it is true. They are all a bunch of liers and would do anything to make me look bad. Specaily that Gently. Oh is she something else.Did you know that she likes to sit on empty beer cans? Boy, ya just never know about people. On the ride home a new song came to mind. See what you think Kokomo gang........38 PAIRS OF SOCKS IN A DRAWER, 38 PAIRS OF SOCKS, TAKE ONE AWAY AND WHAT DO YOU GOT, 37 PAIRS A SOCKS IN THE DRAWER..........YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 19:23:48 (MDT)
RICK ENGLAND...contact Lielah Ward.This has to do with popeye.I have given her your e-mail addy,she wants your phone number.Her husband,Doug,is care-taking popeye.He was also the best man this past week.I believe this to be important to all involved.awaiting your response,if need be i will pass on your phone # if you e-mail it to me.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 19:21:49 (MDT)
hello to alljust got home and want to thank every one for a great time at kokomo.thanks to all. i will be back next year. got hugged more in one day than in my entire life.FRED you need to go with her,she will need you there as much as she needs you here.look at it as a new adventure. thanks to all for accepting me into the family as a brother.CP you need to go to a reunion of some kind,you'll feel better when you leave.i guarantee it.love to all paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 11:48:49 (MDT)
Just before Susan was informed she had cancer,we watched,partyed with,talked to,Steve Spence,at the pop a top/129th/173rd xmas party.Just after Susan started her treatments for cancer,Steve ,Susans and my friend,died.At this years reunion in Texas,we watched Popeye propose to Steff.Susan has finished her chemo and has just started radiation,now we find out popeye is dying,like Steve,a very painful death awaits.This has had a profound effect on Susan.Susan has been here just over 2 years.for about 1/2 of that time,Susan has been going thru treatments and in pain,being hurt by everyone she see's.She is still in pain.Susan has been lucky in the respect that she has never known anyone that died ,till here.They are making unreasonable demands on her at work,she cant afford to quit,and its no longer fun for her.Her parents are both 90 years old.Susan is going home after her raditation treatment are over.She probably will not be back.She said her goodbys at the kokomo reunion.Susan has had nothing but pain,sickness and death surround her since arriving in America.I understand her decision,its at a great personel loss,but I simply cannot change what has happened.The marriage? I dont know,we have yet to make a decision,but I know how its leaning.Doesnt take brain doctor to figure that out.Shrug, thats the life we are given,the cards we are dealt.Her radiation is over in about 7 more weeks.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 09:00:52 (MDT)
cheated death again///made it home safe and sound.
USA - Sunday, September 18, 2005 at 08:32:12 (MDT)
Bill everything is a ok with me with you taking charge of the 129th story. 129th Family. It's been a while since I have had the opportunity to post. Have a stress fracture of my left foot again. But, nothing like what Susan, Charlie Rains and now Popeye is going through. I go to the reunion and spend quality time with our Vietnam Brothers and their Families. And a few months later some are gone. It's tuff. I have personally seen the fight our Vietnam Brothers put up. It's heart breaking. Fred Alvis and some of you can relate to what I am saying. Lets pray for all whom have fallen to some sort of cancer and agent orange cancers. Always A Brother Alex
USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 18:27:04 (MDT)
Although I don't personally know Popeye, I want to first congratulate him and his new bride. Also my prayers go out to him. My Brother is going in for a CT scan Wednesday to see what if anything is left of his cancer. I hope it's all gone. Would like to have him around for awhile longer. Bill Wolf, I think you would be the perfect Brother to head up the 129th project. Ray Gagner, how's things going with you Brother? Waiting for a part for my bike so I can do some fall riding. Hi to everyone in the field out in Kokomo.......Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 12:20:14 (MDT)
Bill,i have ask Lileah Ward to contact you about the pics.She is kinda know in helivets as Den Mum,alot like gently is here.I think its a great idea for you to take pointman on the 129th story.More later,back to kokomo i go.
USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 10:21:14 (MDT)
Alvis, yes, I have Popeye's marriage proposal on video and digitized. I did send him a copy but if you want it let me know your snail mail address and I'll get it out to ya asap. I think the idea of putting together a 129th "storybook" is a great idea. I wouldn't mind taking the lead on that project if the Flight is okay with that. What do you folks think??? Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion.com>
USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 09:21:47 (MDT)
Bill,do you still have the wedding proposel from the reunion?
USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 08:52:29 (MDT)
Flight: Hope everyone has a great weekend. Popeye is in our thoughts and prayers. Also congradulations to him and Stef. Return to the VA for one on one session with the ptsd doctor on thursday. Put for a review on my hearing. The guy told at the Tenn Veterans whom file claims that unless it was in my records no chance of getting anything. After a few choice words He filed my review. I let him know that he was working for me. I told the phyic at the ptsd I was pissed with his attitude. Charlie Rains got out of the hospital the other night. He has some good days and some days not as good. Friday the 16th was POW/MIA rememberence day. Take care. Alex
TN. USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 08:42:48 (MDT)
Popeye's test results are back.He has liver cancer.It has spread to his lungs and other organs.It is terminal.He is in constant and severe pain,which is going to get worst fast. I hate passing on this kinda stuff,espically about a friend.
USA - Saturday, September 17, 2005 at 07:13:28 (MDT)
Just returned from kokomo for the night.Gale Beard,Ron Payne and myself ( with Susan) are the 129thers there so far.Included in our group are Mark,Gently and her Joe,Master Baster,Paul finally found the camp,and a few others that i cant,for the life of me,remember their names.More are expected to show tomorrow.The rain has gone.It treated kokomo gently,ie,no mud at all.Both bracelets are "on site",will have the ceremony tomorrow reuniting the pilots after 33 years.The campfire is burning brightly.Wish others could join us.
USA - Friday, September 16, 2005 at 22:42:20 (MDT)
Popeye and stef are now married,as of today.The happy couple were married on the grounds of the V.A. hospitial.
USA - Friday, September 16, 2005 at 22:33:12 (MDT)
Susan and I will be pulling pitch in just a few.Inbound for Kokomo.Fair winds and blue skies to all.
USA - Friday, September 16, 2005 at 15:05:06 (MDT)
roger that Mark.Still raining here as well but this stuff will blow over.Gonna get muddy, kids.
USA - Friday, September 16, 2005 at 06:34:26 (MDT)
.All right......bikes clean, packed and ready to ride. Will be leaving around 8:00AM and headed over to Indy. Grandparents day at the one grandson's school. Gonna eat lunch with him at school. Then gonna hook with Ron Paye and make the ride to Kokomo with him. Havn't seen Ron in over a year so will be great to hook up and ride wing for him. As he said, should get to campsite round 3:00. raining cats and dogs here. Gonna be some damp ground over there. Oh well, the good times for sure will out way the bad. God Bless and all have a safe trip..................always a brother..............
USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 20:57:52 (MDT)
ron. got your message will do 10 quick pics see ya tomorrow paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 18:23:07 (MDT)
Hey Flight, Looking forward to meeting up with all who can make it to Kokomo. I should get there around 3:00 tomorrow afternoon. I will have a 10X10 foot tent. There should be room for anyone who wants to stay in it. So far it is only me, but no doubt Gently will try to sneak in some way. Most likely after dark. Those who will not make it will be missed. Love and Brotherhood,, Ron
Ron Paye
Indy, USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 18:15:25 (MDT)
latest weather update.Its raining now,supposed to continue into friday morn,then clear up,sunshine untill at least tuesday.Bring a change of shoes.
USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 17:24:17 (MDT)
thanks guys and gals for all the help. i went on mapquest and printed everything i need today at work(don't have a printer).we'll see you all about 6-7 oclock tomorrow i hope. i appreciate all the help. and thanks for all the offers of tents and other help really makes me feel less apprehensive about doing this. see ya all tomorrow
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 11:50:33 (MDT)
Captured Viet Cong orders now stipulate that contact with the Koreans is to be avoided at all costs unless a Viet Cong victory is 100% certain. Never defy Korean soldiers without discrimination, even when are not armed, for they all well trained with Taekwondo. An excerpt from an enemy directive seized. - July 22, 1966 Time -
Rick England
USA - Thursday, September 15, 2005 at 05:32:42 (MDT)
Lou Rags; Do you have anyone helping you with your claim? The reason I ask is I thought I was resonably intelligent enough to file my own appeal, and got shot down big time. When I mentioned it to my Vet-Center counseler, he scolded me good for not letting him help me with the paperwork. Part of my problem was making the whole thing too complicated and asking for too much at one time. I guess the K.I.S.S formula is more effective. There are also Phrases and stressors that they look for. Anyway, if you don't have someone that knows their way around the bullshit, it's going to take you longer. Just don't give up! Are you plugged in to a Vet-Center? I've found it very helpful. Not just the staff, but the knowledgable veterans that you meet who are more than willing to help out. I realize that on the mainland it can be difficult to regularly get to a Vet-Center just due to the distance involved. We are kind of lucky here in Hawaii in that there are a large number of Vets per capita, and we all share the same facility. I'm 50% and couldn't have gotten that by myself. My counseler told me that PTSD shows up on a C.A.T. scan. When I asked if I needed one he laughed and said it would be a waste of electricity. Our symptoms speak loudly enough. We were exposed to agent Orange, we suffer from insomnia,intrusive thoughts,nightmares,nightsweats, body rashes, paranoia, self isolation, inability to process anger, suicidal and homicidal thoughts. I've learned to leave these things off a job application, but still never had much luck until becoming self employed. Anyway, hang in there and good luck!. Greg
Puna, HI USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 23:49:36 (MDT)
Question. just throwing this out to kick around for discussion.background first.Pommy Phils site is taking off.he is getting write ups in all kinds of english flight mags.he is geting a great reception there with the bird.I can see where marketing will help fund his project(hopefully).Keeping that in mind,the 129th fund sure could use some help.This is just to kick around,mind you.What if we,the 129th folks,compiled a "short stories" book of our history/war stories.It could range over the years and involment.Sad stories,glad stories,everyday life of an assault helicopter company in vietnam.I am wondering if Phils format might just be the place to sell the 129th ahc's story.Monies,if any,would go to the fund.What you think? Am i just being a dreamer?
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 23:27:08 (MDT)
yes,westfield is near noblesville,which is about 30 miles south of kokomo....where the eagles gather.The campsite is southeast( a tiny bit) of kokomo.whooohooo,the eagles are gathering.
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 22:01:35 (MDT)
opps,yes turn right( east) on 26.Paul,when you walk in thru the far west gate( the first one you drive near),take the road on the left( north).we are on the left (north) side of that road.If you get to the stage area,you have gone to far.THE EAGALES GATHER FRIDAY.Mark,you bringing the colors?
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 21:56:49 (MDT)
Funny, funny Gail! I remember the road you took that "didn't" have a detour! Goofy guy! Geez! Paul...go to Mapquest. Don't trust either of these characters...trust me:>)) way before you trust them! LOL! L-Gently
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 15:22:02 (MDT)
I stand corrected, you have him going north on 31 from Westfield, but, when you told him to turn (left) on 26.......it should be right (east). Maybe we should let Gently give him directions! LOL
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 13:57:13 (MDT)
Rick, We'll have a drink for ya, but, would rather have one with ya!! Alvis, are you sure 'bout those directions you just gave Paul? Isn't Westfield 30 miles south of Kokomo? Gale
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 13:53:23 (MDT)
thanks fred will see you guys friday nite
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 12:55:46 (MDT)
I just got off the phone with popeye he just got out of surgery the VA took out his lymph nodes and check them out. He going to call me back him and Steph is getting married on thurs or fri. You be careful out there Oh! have a drink for me at the kokomo. POW MIA Day
Rick England <`>
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 11:19:34 (MDT)
Paul,i found westfield on the map.Its an easy drive for you.Hit hwy. 31,turn right(north).go about 25 miles or so,turn left(east) on hwy. 26.Pass thru several small bergs..such as hemlock..and you will see the camp site on the right (south).Just jeep an eye out for lots and lots of flags,an folks parked on the side of the road where there isnt anything around the A".O".
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 09:53:03 (MDT)
Lou, enough is enough! Call your damn Congressman(person) and also find a politcal leader in your area who is a Vietnam Veteran to push this crap through for you! And let's all start thinking very seriously about organizing hunger strikes in front of our VA's to enforce change and inform the general public of this abuse....and it is abuse! I'm sick of it....and I'm not even a VET! With gentle thoughts-Gently. Gentle thoughts? Sure. LOL!
USA - Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 06:57:01 (MDT)
Thanks Alvis........................and now a word from our sponsor.:o]
USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 22:27:15 (MDT)
weather update...thursday,friday,saterday...clear with nice temps in the high 70s,lows in the high 50s....Sunday..chance of rain. The moon will be near full for our campfire enjoyment.Folks,one couldnt ask for better.
USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 19:12:29 (MDT)
Man Lou, Ya sure are hung up in the VA spider web. Bummer man. But like Alvis said, hang in there brother and keep plugin' away, and do check into your congressperson. Get them involved. That has helped some in here get what you deserve. Hey anybody. Can you give me the camp site number at Kokomo? I know the location,(if it is still the same AO) but Dee plans on driving over Saturday and would like for her to have it. Would be easier for her to find our camp. Take care all, always a brother. Yo Robbie, I love you man! Always a brother...............See those attending Kokomo sometime Friday. Camp fires, camp sites, brotherhood, love, peace, flags, bikes, golfcarts, fun, bands, tents, venders. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!...Kokomo.Looking forward to the campfire chats. God Bless..................
USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 18:54:36 (MDT)
Ahh Lou,va bean counters at their finest.Its a beautiful thing how they can go on like the energizer bunny with their run around .They surely have it down to a fine art.One almost has to admire the way they keep comming up with new trash to put off a vet.Sigh, maybe its time to get your congressperson involved.Good luck and keep plugging away at them Lou,its their game to get you to give up.You deserve it,,also check and see if what you have isnt an agent orange qualifer..automatic.
USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 17:01:28 (MDT)
Hello Flight, just when I thought things were going my way, the VA throws a wrench at me. Seems my PTSD appeal has been put on hold because I filed 2 new claims. Ain"t that a kick in the ass. Now I have to wait at least 6 to 8 months to find out about the appeal and the new claims. I think I'm about to be put in rubber room, I don't know how much more of this crap I can take
Lou Rags
Dover, De USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 15:56:11 (MDT)
jimmy sanders, 405 Longleaf dr east, Pine hurst,NC. 28374( popeye)
USA - Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 14:57:37 (MDT)
kokomo weather update...thursday,partly cloudy,,,fri clear,77 high..54 low,,,sat,,clear,high of 78,low of 55.
USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 17:02:52 (MDT)
Slow Hand Salute to 257. We will never forget. Spent a few hours with the shrink at the VA. She is going to set me up for group sessions. Put an review claim in for my hearing. Real jerks. Negitive response to my request for a review. Told him in a few words I wasn't playing games with him. Have to wait and see. Fred S. John Mackovic is from Barberton, Ohio. I think he is bac think he is back coaching a texas team. Always A Brother Alex
USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 16:54:23 (MDT)
Hello all, been a while. First my computer was pretty much ate up then after we got home from NM I tore hamstring move a van bench seat by myself. Now I am getting ready for some major dental stuff(thats to my father for the bad teeth gene.) Really not that bad, people have allot worse going on I know for sure. I visited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial near Red River, NM A pic of the huey they have there is on my name. It was a beautiful area. My grandpa took a trip to his last tank battalion reunion. While he was gone his last brother died. Out of all of them(16 kids) there are only two left. Ok enough of the blabbering. Hope all are doing as well as you can be.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, TX USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 14:50:44 (MDT)
Salute to the crew of 257, today is my lil sis 53rd Birthday ( thats how i remember), need to call her. Right now my wife is having severe problems with 2 herniated discs. Microburst here the other day blew 3 large trees down 65 feet tall, still doing some cutting. God, my prayers for Popeye, & for both yours sons Bill>>> respects, Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 14:03:53 (MDT)
257...Amen. L-G
USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 07:54:40 (MDT)
Slow hand salute to all the members of "257" Stephen Desantis, Steven Hargrave, Richard Sawran, and Larry Jackson. Wish they were all still here, and may they never be forgotten....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 07:33:09 (MDT)
Will be in Kokomo sometime Saturday. Probably at the 129th some time in the afternoon. It takes me a while to get there. I know it has been 36 years since Michael left us but I still have a very hard time with it. I know I only have been a part of Michael's life these past 18 and never really knew him but he is still in my heart and this time of year I really have a difficult time. Look forward to seeing everyone. Be safe and see you on saturday. As always welcome home Always a sister.
USA - Monday, September 12, 2005 at 05:46:59 (MDT)
Popeye(Jimmy Sanders), was confirmed to have lung cancer.
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:20:47 (MDT)
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 18:34:16 (MDT)
Guys that`s GREAT Texas team, Vince Young is the best college quarterback I`ve seen in years. He "pick apart" Michigan in the Rose Bowl in January.....That was a close game last night......OSU is still a team to be reckon with.....Texas didn`t blow us out.....
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 18:27:33 (MDT)
Happy 57th Birthday Larry Jackson.............back in "the world", it was the 11th that the "257" went down. The 12th in Nam..............always a brother............slow hand salute to the crew of the "257".
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 12:09:52 (MDT)
Good afternoon Flight: Finally a day off from the Zone. We still have 273 people whom haven't checked in as of yet on the coast. 73 have reported to have lost thier homes and everything. Bill your son is in our thoughts and prayers. It's rough down on the coast. Truman Mills of the 129th lived in Moss Point Miss. He was in the 1st platoon in 65-66. Today is the aniversary of 9/11. Prayers go out to the Families.. Alvis hope Susan is getting better. Charlie keeps fighting his cancer. Tomorrow have and appointment to see the shrink at the VA. PTSD the Vet Center got me in since I haven't been able to make any group sessions in the last month. So. I was dropped for not atteding. DA! some people have to work. Hope these people don't piss me off!! Tired of being treated as a dumb ass by the review boards. The VA hospital is great. Well hope Kokomo was great for those whom attended and everyone arrived home safely. Fred S. Ohio State will get back on track. Michigan is the game I like seeing. Alwalys A Brother Alex
Collierville, TN. USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 11:38:01 (MDT)
Hey gang - have a great time at the reunion - drink a beer for me, Mark!! PFC Wolf in New Orleans (82nd Airborne) just sent me a mobile phone photo of a car next to the superdome that just blew up. Not sure why, but with all the crap in the water there who knows!! He's mostly providing field radio communications support and doing well. Take care all! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 10:58:03 (MDT)
Fred S. The game I saw was TEXAS 25, OHIO STATE 22. Take care all. Frank 69-70.
Frank Loveday
Bastrop, La. USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 10:14:27 (MDT)
Alvis, Puuuuuurfect!
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 08:37:07 (MDT)
fridays forecast....chance of rain in the morning,,high of 78,low of 58 friday night.
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 08:12:14 (MDT)
Rendering a slow hand salute to those of 9/11.
USA - Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 05:23:11 (MDT)
Paul, throw in a sleeping bag, you might need it. :o)
USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 16:15:13 (MDT)
Our prayers go out to Popeye!!! Alvis, you smooth talkin' sob! I'm not sure 'bout the "gales" of laughter tho..............I'll have to think about that one!! LOL Mark, it's a good thing you got the date right cause you know you would have about half a dozen Nam vets pounding on your door. Sorry Dee can't make it...give her our love!! I'll be there 'round 4pm on Friday. Paul, bring the wild turkey. I'm sure we can take care of it around the campfire....especially with Gently there. God, who's gonna "babysit" her this year????
Gale 67-68
USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 16:12:53 (MDT)
Jimmy Sanders/popeye is back in the hospitial again.His pain never left.After many test,they have found a 3 Cm. "ulcer" on his liver,they believe is causing the pain.They also fear the ( what ever it is) lung things might be cancerous.He is to see a liver specialist monday.The wedding has yet to take place because of health problems.Sure hopoe he pulls out of this one, he is a good guy.
USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 13:02:28 (MDT)
Well.........good to see all the commo here..........guess I better get my crap into one seabag. I surely would of been awful lonely at kokomo for I was thinking it was the weekend of the 24th, not this upcomeing weekend. DING DONG!!!!........if it wern't for one of your post in here that one stated, " I will see you Friday" I never would of known. DING DONG!!!!!!.......sure glad I noticed that..........I will be arriving friday on 2 wheels, with a one-man tent. WOW, as to Kokomo and seeing all you friends this song by Carly Simon just came to mind. " SO FAR AWAY, DOESN'T ANYBODY STAY IN ONE PLACE ANYMORE, IT WOULD BE SO FINE TO SEE YOUR FACE AT MY DOOR, IT DOESN'T HELP TO KNOW, YOUR SO FAR AWAY..........that was Dee and my song while I was on Okinawa. It reminds me of all of you...........God Bless, and see you friday........RULES!!!!....so I guess the rule of "No Mooning" is not in affect Ron.....hehehehehehehe!!!!!!.......always a brother.....
USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 11:13:15 (MDT)
Hey flight - my son (PFC Wolf in the 82nd) had his first mission yesterday in New Orleans. Mostly sitting on one of the bridges by the superdome providing extended communications to the guys patrolling (he's a Signal specialist and paratrooper). Said it was "uneventful"...I told him "uneventful" is a good thing!!! lol Hope you all have fun at the reunion, wish I could have joined ya!!! Be safe. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 08:59:56 (MDT)
no pissing in the fire? it makes the wood last longer. no sweat on the drinking and driving,been thru that before and don't want to do it again. no public transportation where i live. see ya on friday
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, September 10, 2005 at 07:29:02 (MDT)
Man,I gotta get a life.
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 23:05:58 (MDT)
Paul,the rules are very loose.No fighting.No chasing another fella's woman.No cutting in line to the John.clean up after yourself. try to be tolerent.Dont piss in the fire.no biting or kicking,nor hair pulling,unless its during sex.Thats about all the rules I can think of,anyone else remember any?
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 22:57:31 (MDT)
Paul,there will be a campfire.Theres nothing like sitting around a campfire,in the cool of the night,surrounded by darnkness,covered by stars and a yellow moon,staring into the flickering flames,red embers,quiet voices,gentle laughter,bugs calling out for love,and everyone telling lies.The group slowly grows smaller as one and twos,drift off to bed or home.Everyone gets closer to the fire,bitches about the smoke to the background of the popping hiss of beer cans.The quiet curses of someome finding taunt tent ropes on their shins as they stubble around in the darkness,or the gales of laughter as someone sits down on a stump,then slowly turns over toward the ground,saving their beer from spilling.The feel of chilly dew coating the upside of everything,including your coat,clothes and anything else you forgot and left out.Yes Paul,there will be a fire,unless its pouring down rain.
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 22:41:10 (MDT)
ok,first long range weather forecast for kokomo...friday..high of 75,sunny and dry.Will continue updates daliy as i can.hmmm,is wild turkey allowed? will anyone help you drink it?hmmm.Does a proctoligist have shit on his cuff? Actually,the booze is allowed,I cant answer about anyone helping drink it tho.I might help a little,just to be kind to a brother you understand.Susan cant make saterday,she has to close the store that night.Friday,she gets off a 4:30,we should be there by 6 pm.Where the heck is west field?Paul,kokomo is only about 1/2 hour north, of north indy.I highly advise DO NOT drink and drive in that area,or any area for that matter.I am about an hour away from kokomo,if i drink,I sleep it off there.
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 22:27:27 (MDT)
well there has been a slight change. i will be staying in westfield not kokomo. the best western in kokomo refused to stand by their reservstion because i had a voucher for a free nite. can you give me directions from westfield, fred? if you guys don't have a fire on the 129th campsite i can bring something besides the desert mentioned before. any suggestions? is whiskey(wild turkey)allowed and if so will anybody help drink it? just trying to get this figured out and don't want to violate the rules or piss anybody off thanks paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 19:43:53 (MDT)
Paul, check us out Friday nite!! As you enter the compound & pay your entry fee ($10.00), proceed forward (east)down the left lane 'bout a city block.(if you see the food vendors you've gone way too far) Watch on the left side of the lane for some cammo-netting and our 129th flag. We'll be watchin' for ya! Now, only believe about half of what Gently writes about Kokomo. Believe less than that after she drinks a couple beers (my beers);o)!! Bring your dessert (on Saturday)...we'll heat it up some how. Like I said, come on in on Friday.......just like Motel 6, we'll leave a light on for ya!!! Lookin' forward to meeting you. Ron Paye, anything to add brother? I don't remember the camp site number...help us out. Clear, Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 16:40:08 (MDT)
Ah, Paul. We stay up later than 7. See you Friday night! L-G
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 15:14:02 (MDT)
fred and gently; thanks for the run down and encouragement.no problem on the camping thing as i will be staying at the best western in kokomo. proabably won't get there till 6-7 at nite on friday so might not make it out till saturday morning. it looks to be 4-5 hours from here and my day starts at 3 am so i might be a little bushed. FRED i wish i could write like you, i get on here and it takes me half an hour to do 3 sentences. will see all you guys on the 17th. as far as a dish would a desert be ok? i have one that is made with hawain bread,evap milk and coconut and grilled over the fire
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 14:58:14 (MDT)
I read this site every week on weekends and I like it.
Jackpot <escimo777@1001pils.com>
LA, Ca US - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 11:15:58 (MDT)
Well, my son in the 82nd Airborne has just left for his first patrol in New Orleans. I know he'll see some pretty nasty stuff, but I also know he'll do his job with honor. He looks pretty awesome with his M16 and red beret (paratrooper). Will post the results of the patrol here when he calls me. Hope you all have a great time at the reunion and wish I could be there. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 08:01:55 (MDT)
Fred, what will I do without Susan keeping you in-line while I over-see the mischief of Gail and Ron Paye! Please bring her after work..please. Paul, how wonderfuil that you're joining us! The only thing that Fred didn't mention was that we all bring a food thing to share(no thanks Gail). Our Master Baster usually grills a turkey or a ham...if he doesn't make it this year we'll have to purchase food from the vendors on site. And speaking of vendors!!!! Just about anything you could possibly imagine that pertains to Veterans can be purchased there. Joe and I stay in a hotel in town, which is about, as a guess, 10 miles away. The first time I went to Kokomo I was going to camp. After I pitched my tent and started gazing at the thousands of twinkling stars, I happened to gaze into one of the nearby cars and saw a sight that blew me away! And they say they didn't sleep together....ya right! So off to the hotel I went. Also Paul, pitching a tent on the site is not a good idea..our 129th camp site is not really that big, so I suggest a hotel or your car(or Fred or Gail's car:>))). Joe and I will be at the Clarion. I suggest you get a room ASAP as they fill up pretty fast. You can expect 35,000 to 40,000 Vets and their families there....Marines wearing bright pink baseball hats(and nobody messes with 'em)...Iraq war Vets...hundreds of Unit flags posted by vietnam Veterans...relaxation..laughter...and on and on. Our camp site has a red, white, and blue twirling wind sock kind of thing on the top of one of our tents, and we're in the middle of the first row, right off the main road. Please join us. Fred usually wears a Santa hat, Gail wears a WWII soft pilot hat with his Cobra sunglasses and a white scarf, and Ron Paye, when he has his pants up, can be seen with a red feathered boa around his neck. Kathleen...I will bring Mr. Dunlaps' POW-MIA bracelet for you. Looking forward to the mini next week:>)))))))))) Yeah! Hugs-Gently
USA - Friday, September 09, 2005 at 06:52:13 (MDT)
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 20:26:06 (MDT)
going to be tuff to get Susan to kokomo.Work constraits rears its ugly head.Susan really wants to go.Perhaps,as per last year,I can bring her up after work.Fingers crossed,her schedule hasnt been posted as of yet.
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 19:57:00 (MDT)
heres what to expect.Smiles,hugs and a welcome home.Good conversation.meeting lots of great folks that post here and some that dont.Cold beer.More cold beer along with more smiles.A free trip down memory lane,but only if you want to go.An electric ,yes electric,golf cart toilet.motorcycles,hot rods,and flags,hundreds of flags.a campfire and a place to sit around it.A billion stars after brillent sunsets accompied by cold beers.Brotherhood.A few thousand people walking past,a few ten-thousand smiles and waves of hello. live music.( sometimes good). Vendors selling hats,shirts,pins,flight wings ect.Beer.a special closed group/prayer for our kia's.A chance to put faces and personalites with the names in here.( both our special angels will be there).People you can depend on to watch your back and take care of you just in case one has to many beers( if that can happen).Most leave early sunday,by noon anyway,so why not come friday?You will be with friends,you will soon feel like you belong again.
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 18:37:18 (MDT)
paul,first off,you must decide if your going to rough it or stay in a motel.Personal needs at the site consist of "port a poties".No showers ect.Food and beer are available thru concessions..when they are open.Its out in the country,way out in the country.Its outdoors,day and night,so bring clothing that includes rain gear and cool night gear.Bring a lawn chair,cheap plastic ones work great and can be left behind without pain if needed.Bring a camera to record memoirs of gently and Gale singing with alcohol induced glee( I of course remain in control and never have outburst of drunken reverly).You may want to bring a change of shoes as well,lots of mud if it rains.Bring smokes,you cant buy them there.Enough of the cants.Folks leave and return all the time,going into kokomo itself,where supplies are bought or replinshed.Gale and myself,have both slept in our cars overnight( maybe Kal also).BUT NOT together.Wensday I will post the local forecast that includes kokomo.You might want to include sunglasses and a hat.
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 18:20:58 (MDT)
flight; i am figuring on attending kokomo. unsure on when to figure on getting there as i have never been to anything like this before.if someone could give me a run down on what to expect,i would appreciatte it. don't know if i should figure on getting there friday or saturday. my email is idapaul& yahoo.com or cell #(815)343 6709. thanks
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 17:28:30 (MDT)
Gently, after getting shot down last year, you don't have to worry 'bout me bringing any food with "meat" in it!!! ;o]
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 16:13:40 (MDT)
Thank you Judith. I will pass that around.
Rick England
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 13:55:19 (MDT)
Ray, good talking to you the other day. I hope they figure out why you're making so much blood and get your shoulder fixed. Tell Gail I said hi. Speaking of Cups, has anyone heard from him in awhile????Rob
Rochester, USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 09:03:10 (MDT)
I will be in Kokomo this year as usual. I hope to pick up Dunlap's bracelet to wear with Michael's. I look forward to seeing everyone again and meeting any new people. As always welcome and thanks
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 08:50:16 (MDT)
Problems with health care at a VA? Here's the address to the Department in charge of resolving medical problems and issues you have with the VA. Their mission is centered on assuring good healthcare for Veterans(Patient care issues vs benefit issues): Dept of Veterans Affairs, Office of the Medical Inspector(OMI), 810 Vermont Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20420: 800-634-4782 or 202-501-2000: OMITRIAGE@mail.va.gov. L-Gently
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 07:42:55 (MDT)
The Wolf Family: Semper Fi! Let us know if he goes to Iraq with the other 82nd who are going for 3 months. And, please, keep us updated: he is family. Joe and I will be going to Kokomo, per usual. But this year we are bringing along with us, Peter Tycz. Peter, a Vietnam Vet, is the brother of SGT. James Tycz, whose remains were found last year in Vietnam and buried in Arlington this last May. Also, our Master Baster has been ill, but should be getting out of the VA today. Hopefully he can make the trip this year. Please send him an email wishing him your best: Ron Coopersmith, coppersmith@wi.rr.com ...what's Kokomo without the "Master Baster!" To those who are going... remember to bring food contributions(except Gale). LOL!! We'll be there late Friday afternoon. Can't wait to see you again! L-Gently
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 07:15:15 (MDT)
Talked to my son (PFC James Wolf) in Louisiana (paratrooper with 82nd Airborne). Says they are staying at the airport there (assuming near New Orleans). They haven't gone on any patrols (no ammunition has arrived yet?!). So mostly they patrol the airport. He says its kinda kewl cause there are checkpoints everywhere, but "because we have the red berets (paratrooper) and big guns we get to go any where". They are getting ready for some possible problems now that they are forcing people out of New Orleans - they are worried that they will confront the airport people for stuff. Any ways, he says he's fine and knows he may see some pretty nasty stuff once they do go on patrol. Hope you all don't mind me logging in his "first mission" story here. His VERY proud dad, Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 07:15:08 (MDT)
Don, Thanks a lot for the Paul Nolen deal. He was an good guy and as I said one with two tours in the 129th. Just too bad he never finished the second one. I know he was real close with Jim Masencup. Ya'll take care!!
Jeff Sauers
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 06:12:03 (MDT)
I recieved tiger div. patch and White horse patch, with a patch that said vietnam vet with the Korean ensignia on for the hat. Mr chung is a very nice person he also put Bernnie in touch with a Korean that was at the pinnicle that they pickup his buddy that was also dilled in the ship they went down in. Bernnie thats in great you found some connection. Flight this is a great site for doing things that may help. Be careful out there. I am still looking for some of mine.
Rick England
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 06:05:45 (MDT)
just a short note, Paul M. Nolen has been put on the pagewith correct info. I was also noticing that I have a few in the wrong order but at least I think I have all the correct names and info posted now. PLEASE let me know if there is anything else wrong. thanks for letting me know. BTW the list of names I sent has Paul M. Nolen listed so the list should be correct.
Don Miller
USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 00:42:00 (MDT)
Evening flight, Alvis, I have sent my list of names by way of their contact page as I have no direct e-mail address so I hope it got to him. I was not there when Nolan was there so I was only going by what info I had. this is the first I knew of the name I had listed was the wrong person. I will find the right one and correct it. if ANYONE finds any errors on my page please let me know and I will get it corrected. my e-mail address is listed on the first page of my web site. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 00:12:26 (MDT)
interesting enough,there is another fuel out there.I was grazing the internet and came upon E-85.Its 85% ethonol,15% gas.Only one station carries it in Indianapolis and many states dont sell it,YET.more info is at E85.com.as far as I can tell so far,only SOME vehicials made after 2001 can run the stuff.It pollutes less and is renewable.Sounds like a game plan to me.To see if you can run it and where to buy it,go to the E85 site.Oh,your car has to be able to run on unleaded gas.
USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 11:37:27 (MDT)
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 11:21:02 (MDT)
Fred A, THe address for me in the contacts is correct. Thanks for sending them...Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 10:44:01 (MDT)
Dennis,someone in the vhpa might be able to help.I dont care for that org. but sometimes they are useful.
USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 08:45:11 (MDT)
Frank I tell you what....There`s enough blame for this on both political parties side....I`m tired of making excuses for the Democrats and tired trying to find fault in the Republicans. Everyone is trying defend their positions, throwing insults at each other. I`m just sick of the whole mess.......As Parrish President Broussard said." Just give me a idiot who can do something for my people".......I don`t care what political party they are from.....Everyone of these "talking head" politicians need to shut up, and do something.
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 08:04:47 (MDT)
I too have recieved my stickers from Phil. They look great, I have one on my Gold Wing just under the plate and one centered on the back window of my truck just under my Fear This. Also, Any suggestions as the where to get a look or copies of flight logs. I have an email out to AMARC in Arizona which was the last US Storage facility for "509". Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Wednesday, September 07, 2005 at 07:12:42 (MDT)
My town "Bastrop" is in the Northern part of La. we only got some rain & light wind out the storm. It seems to me as if our Governor screwed up more than anyone. She refused Federal aid for a period of time. I watched the hcptr crews working out. They all looked good, sharp, very professional. Made me proud that I was once one. Take care all. Frank - 69-70.
Frank Loveday
Bastrop, La. USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 20:56:14 (MDT)
Seems our government was "a johnny on the spot". The dome in new orleans is so FILITY that they have decided to bring her down.Its the safest way to clean the crap dome.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 19:44:13 (MDT)
Evenin' all...........hope all our southerners weathered the storm down there. Does anybody know of any of us that are from that AO? Man, what a mess. Fred A. What stickers did you get from Phil. I received via e-mail photos of the "509" the other day. She looks great. Who all is going to Kokomo?..............all is well here, still shuffleing paper work for my 90 year old mother. Lots of red tape as some of you probably know. Had a lil' trouble with this machine last week. Caught a bug of some kind and had to doctor it for a few days. I think it is better now. Everybody take care...........always a brother.....................
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 19:43:09 (MDT)
Fred--Thanks a lot!!!!!!
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 15:32:01 (MDT)
roger that jEFF. ROBBY-- recieved stickers from Phil today,i need your addy.Is it correct in contacts? They are perfect helmet size.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 15:01:53 (MDT)
Fred A. Since you have done so much with the KIA/MIA names on 509 could you please be sure Phil puts the correct Nolan on her. The one listed in 129th memory section is correct. The one listed on Don Miller's page is not. Those of us that were there when he was would appriciate it. Thanks a lot. Our best to Susan. Snapper.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 12:29:44 (MDT)
Dennis, it would be great if it can be documented that you flew the 509.That would be the final link and a indisputable connection.Hope it comes to bare. Bill,its great to hear about number 1 son.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 11:03:38 (MDT)
Well, my son (in the 82nd Airborne) is in Louisiana and goes on his first patrol today. This will be his first "real" mission since joing the Army a year ago. Gonna be kinda tough when the first bodies you see are you're own citizens. Hope you all don't mind me posting his progress here - just wanted to share with my generation of vets. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 10:01:27 (MDT)
FYI, I probably spend more time reading and watching the commo on this site and Phil's, than working during the day. I have ordered stickers from Phil, which where I got the info on MSS Holding. Also, if you had an "Award" due you I was most likely the person who typed your commendation during the period 4/72-12/72 Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Haines City, FL USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 07:38:41 (MDT)
FYI I probably spend more time time reading and watching the commo on this site and Phil's. I have ordered stickers from Phil, which where I got the info on MSS Holding. Also, if you had and Award due you I was most likely the person who typed your commendation during the period 4/72-12/72 Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Haines City, FL USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 07:37:14 (MDT)
Oh,yes Animal I agree.I would be nice of him to do a posting in here.I can only guess why he hasnt,all good reasons,but only guesses.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 07:09:48 (MDT)
Animal,Phil has talked on the telephone with both mark and myself ( and Susan).I have coresponded with him on several occasions by e-mail as well.On his site is a link to our site as well,perhaps thru Marks work.Whoever it was that posted that last bit,hasnt been reading our site or Phils site.Mark,Phil and I ,discussed the kia names months ago.I have also sent Phil a listing of our kia's from this site and encouraged him to look at Don Millers site,which is the best site ( in my opinion) for, and about, our kia's.It contains names,some pictures,the causes and place of each of our brothers final mission.Its a piece of outstanding work,none better that I know of.It contains everything but personal memoriers about each person.I am a wee bit disappointed that the posting seems to make the "painting of the kia's" is/was their idea,which it wasnt.It was mine,then discussed with Mark,then in here,then Phil.Thats just a personal ego thing for credit,of no great importance in the scheme of things.Its far more important to get the names listed,no matter who claims the idea.I would really like to see Don Miller get with Phil on the names issue.I do agree with one statement that was posted,I,too,encourage each of you to go into their guestbook and say howdy,if nothing else.They love hearing from us and the support.That in it self,gives history and creditability to the fine work they have done of our bird.It would be a great honor to have our 30 some kia's painted on that bird.Ironicaly,their names will outlast ours,and thats ok with me.A hell of a trade off.
USA - Tuesday, September 06, 2005 at 07:05:27 (MDT)
Animal and All, I have been in contact with Phil thru his web site email. From what I understand the main company (MMS Holdings) is involved in a couple of different type operations. My only lingering thought is this. Although I was not a full time crew member(Supply Rm & Orderly Rm), I believe I may have flown a mission or two on "509", but without any flight logs to check for my signature or initials I will have no way of knowing. I will have to be content with the thought that maybe I flew on that bird. That being said if anyone is interested on my web site http://web.tampabay.rr.com/fuerstenau/ I have added a new link, where I put one of the only remaining pictures of me in the unit, my Air Medal and other things. I had many other links but due to size restraints only left motorcycle stuff. be Safe and Take Care. Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Haines City, FL USA - Monday, September 05, 2005 at 17:12:36 (MDT)
I've seen the pictures,and appreciate what Phil has done with our Huey. As far as I can recall, though, he hasn't ever contacted us directly. I for one,would like to hear from him and also would encourage his participation in this forum. Does anyone else feel the same way? It just seems strange to me to hear from him through a third party all the time......Bill: "Bon Chance" to your son. I'm glad they're getting some professional help down there.............Greg
Puna, HI USA - Monday, September 05, 2005 at 11:46:41 (MDT)
Well, my son texted me that he leaves at 1630hrs EST today for Louisiana. He's already complaining about the "lousy leadership" they're getting. It's his first real life mission. Told him to do what he's told, watch his/their backs, and do his duty with honor. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Monday, September 05, 2005 at 11:21:35 (MDT)
USA - Monday, September 05, 2005 at 09:49:09 (MDT)
USA - Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 20:19:13 (MDT)
I am headed back to the UK on the 7th of September and will be there for a while. Phil Connolly plans to add the names of the KIA's and MIA from the 129th to the side of the aircraft. Please pass the word that we are going to do that as a way of remembering the you guys lost. I would appreciate any information you might be able to provide about the guys that were lost. We have the information from the VHPA records and can access other web sites while doing our research but what we really would like to find is the personal kind of memories and photos of those guys so we can make it a part of the project. We owe it to them to keep their memories alive as best we can. That way they are gone...but not forgotten. I would also encourage each of you of the 129th to send Phil and Jo an e-mail or note thanking them for what they are doing. There is no better memorial than an aircraft that flew combat with the unit and is still flying today bearing the names of those lost and wearing the unit colors. Pass the word around....and help us out with the project by sending us those memories and photo's. Regards, Ralph Chappell Geronimo 33 RVN 68-70
Ralph Chappell <captrechappell@yahoo.com>
Winston-Salem, NC USA - Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 11:29:36 (MDT)
Jimmy/ popeye is out of the hospitial,at home ,resting,still in pain,but getting better.Rick,forgive me, am waiting on answer from susan per your request.
USA - Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 10:19:16 (MDT)
Bill I knew bush had to give in, that weasel face. Lee I rememeber you, I would like to get a pic of Tiger wagon. YOu been gettting any good uncle Jim. hehehehehehhhe. You missed a good one tis year you better be in phoenix next year and party with us like we used to. I do not leave anybody in an LZ. hehehyehehehehhe. ****Filght be careful out there beause i am gong to play poker I am back up to 9000 today.
Rick England
USA - Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 00:34:05 (MDT)
Well, typical Army!! My son's unit in the 82nd Airborne has been activated to go to Louisiana tomorrow morning!!!! Sure hope those snipers have gone into hiding, cause these guys don't play that game!!! lol
Bill Wolf <VNHeloRenunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 19:26:55 (MDT)
HI Rick, Maybe you don't remember but I crewed 901 tiger wagon. It was the ship with the white radio ant. on the bottom of the tail boom and a tiger on the nose cover. Frank Gilanto crewed before me. I think he was from California. Sorry I missed the reunion. Clear left. Lee Wood "67-68"
Lee Wood` <cwood86700@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 19:19:53 (MDT)
Well, my son called and said they got a "stand down" order. I'm glad cause now he can continue his process for West Point! Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 09:36:42 (MDT)
North Witcher, you still out there in Texas flying a "air ambulance"? Go on down to New Orleans and show them "young bucks" how to extract people from a disaster.....Just like we did in typhoon of October of 1970......
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 07:40:24 (MDT)
Thats funny Fred. that sounds like something I would do and then my wife would say get in the truck and lets go before they kick the shit out you. hehehehehehee
Rick England`
USA - Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 05:09:09 (MDT)
The U.S. Nationals ( a huge drag race) is going on here for the next 4 days.I can here the big boys even inside my house,4 miles away.This is a huge event in drag racing,thousands show up daily.As expected,many vendors show as well.One of which is the army.As i was gassing up the old piece of shit ( susans words for my car) i drive,the army vendors/recurters pull in for fuel.Sure enough,on the side of the trailer they were pulling,was a picture of an attack helicopter.Twas an apachia or blackhawk or some other new fangled bringer of death.Me being me,with a picture of a huey ( like the ones I brought to the reunion) on my back window,and a "combat door gunner license plate surround( thanks Rick) above my back bumper..I started to ask those guys why they didnt have a pic of a real helicopter on there .Guess they just wanted to humor an old fat guy.they laughed and kinda looked like..." oh jesus,heres another old nam fart".shrug, i had a good time and thats whats important.
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 20:45:16 (MDT)
Bill,I bet he is proud of those strips.I sure was when i got mine.
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 20:33:58 (MDT)
popeye has had his gall bladder removed.It was severly/grossly swollen.Recovery time is 14 days.Next on the list is finding out whats on his lungs.Wedding is still on schedual.
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 20:32:34 (MDT)
Flight: Just got a call from my son who is in the 82nd Airborne Division at Ft Bragg. They are being deployed to Louisiana and will be arriving in 48 hours. He's a bit bummed cause he was applying for West Point and now he says he'll be in Louisiana for 3 months. But he also said that that is where his country needs him now. If any one wants to email him with support his email is: james.lyle.wolf@us.army.mil I'm pretty damn proud of him (can you tell?). Oh, and he made PFC yesterday morning!!!! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 14:32:29 (MDT)
Bill Wolf, nice article on the American psyche regarding our News Media! LOL Unfortunately, it's more true than most of us like to believe....I'm waiting for the political fallout over the misery down there. It's not just a neo con republican thing, as much as I'd love to label it that! It's a case of our republicrat ruling elite dong what they do best, while the real people suffer......Alvis, of course they're dancing in the streets over this. In spite of ourselves, and how we like to think, we're not all that well loved by a large part of this world .....just my opinion..
Livermore, Me USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 14:12:02 (MDT)
Keith, our thoughts and prayers are with you and all of the victims. Stay safe!!
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 11:59:06 (MDT)
Alive and well in northeast Mississippi......hope this finds all the same....Keith Letson
Keith 72-73
corinth, Ms. USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 11:30:38 (MDT)
Received my retirement check the other day so I thought I would take the wife out to someplace expensive. So we went to the gas station and filled up the truck. Take care and God Bless.
Rick Jensen
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 10:41:32 (MDT)
Hey Flight: Someone sent me this website with a cute (but a bit crude) report on the hurricane - sad to say it rings true!!! http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 09:33:21 (MDT)
well flight,it was bound to happen.News channels report glee and dancing in the streets in arab countries.The arab web sites are happy about katrina striking our country as well as Al Quida making Katrina a honary member of their army..ie, Private Katrina.This isnt a joke,its all true.I just dont understand how people can dance in the streets after this as they did when the twin towers fell.Remember,we werent in iraq when 911 happened,so war isnt any excuse.I suppose what we consider "civilized" differs drasticly from the whay they define it.Fill your tanks,gas is supposed to go up another 15 to 40 cents in the next week,if there is any to be found.Sugar ,lumber,coffee will also reflect the damage done to the port of New Orleans.Katrina,of course,tore thru the middle of our gas and oil fields in the gulf,petroleum being the lifes blood of this country.Perhaps this "brick falling on our heads" will inspire our government to finally fund alternitive energy sources,but i doubt it.Flight,be careful out there.
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 07:40:45 (MDT)
Ralph, thanks for the link to the current photos of 509, Even though I did not fly on her we were both in the 129th at the same time. Tom Pederson was there when I was, he may have some history on her. Also, I have tried Phil's store to purchase some items for my collection and the purchase was handled thru Paypal and it worked well including the conversion of British pounds to US dollars Wink, long time no hear Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Haines City, FL USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 06:47:49 (MDT)
In case the question has ever came up..I send lots of jokes out by email.I dont write to much,by snail or e mail.I do think of you as friends and its my way of saying hello, you are in my thoughs and heres a smile for you.
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 06:41:58 (MDT)
for sale...SUV, free,just take over gas payments
USA - Friday, September 02, 2005 at 06:38:25 (MDT)
Thanks Jim. How is the poker going? I just lost 22,000 at the 100 200 no limit table. Play money hehehehehehe
Rick England
USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 15:13:45 (MDT)
Found his card>>>>> Jimmie (Popeye) Sanders>>>405 Longleaf Dr. E.>>> Pinehurst, N.C. 28374...>>>>>>jsanders4@nc.ff.com>>>>>>>...Respects Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 14:17:44 (MDT)
http://pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184078&perpage=10&pagenumber=9 A photo of 72-21509 in her new dress and hat.
Ralph Chappell <captrechappell@triad.rr.com>
WinstonSalem, NC USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 14:05:44 (MDT)
Yeah, i sure hope he is ok, he sat at our table, taught me quick how to use his camera & i took shots of the proposal(really a neat moment)>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 13:54:41 (MDT)
Thank you Fred for the update on popeye. I remember when he was doing shots in his stomach for hep c. Do you have address for him? or can you get one?
Rick England
USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 13:16:15 (MDT)
the reason I do this is cause many in here met popeye at the reunion,or remember him by his proposal to stef. Popeye is still in the hospital.He may have to have his gall bladder removed.He has noduals on his lungs,not sure what that is yet,they are testing.They are going to operate on him today.He is alot of pain,on a morphine drip at this time.wedding may have to be postponed,depends on outcome/method of surgery.As he has liver damanage,its not a simple,straight forward deal.
USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 08:37:40 (MDT)
ok you got me on that one gently. i guess the war in iraq is making a lot ofus too sereious.personly i'm tired of hearing about night after night. it brings back to many bad memories. wink 3/69-10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 08:19:43 (MDT)
Hang in there Lou..hang in there. Gas in Milwaukee is at 3.49, Yikes! Prayers for our Gulf Coast poor....which most are now. L-Gently
USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 07:00:09 (MDT)
Mark,what I have my eye on is not only fuel prices,but food prices.All of our food is trucked in.Those fellas aint in the trucking biz for their health.Not only food-stuffs,but everything we purchase is trucked in. Bush says he is going to allow the nationial reserves to be tapped untill the gulf oil is back on line,but I am one to "wait and see" when the gov. says anything.From what I understand,the governer of georgia has declared a state of emergency so gas prices cannot be raised futher in that state.If that is true....good on him!KIM,I wonder if Jihad Sue and hanio jane plan on getting together?While Maine may lean a bit to the left(as other N.E.states do),they still dont take any crap,from anyone. Kokomo....my vacation papers have been approved ( real big of them).Those of you that remember the fellow that preposed,at the reunion,Popeye,he is in the hospitial,heart troubles I believe.He went in a few days ago,doing fine and should be out soon.
USA - Thursday, September 01, 2005 at 03:31:02 (MDT)