Well Gale, I/we are leaving for Canada on Saturday but, I am hoping to be able to be there Friday till Saturday morning... And yes, it appears that the trucker life is definately affecting Fred's mind.. I would bet the CB radio language is setting in pretty big time now. I hope everyone is having a great summer.. Take care.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Thursday, July 31, 2008 at 08:47:50 (MDT)
Ken, that would be nice...if possible.
USA - Thursday, July 31, 2008 at 07:28:08 (MDT)
Hi Guys, I mailed the forms out yesterday for Kokomo to everyone. Still trying to figure out what I am doing. Guess I should bring the generator so Gale can use it. I know last year it was a lifesaver and came back with as much gas as I left with.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, July 31, 2008 at 07:25:54 (MDT)
Hey! Watch who you're calling a mofo! Sat & Sun, Sept 20-21.....be there or be talked about! I suppose I'll be there on Thurs in my little Shasta. Kal, I hope you can make it. Gale
USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 21:59:29 (MDT)
ok,mofo's,time for me to put in for time off for KOKOMO. When the heck are the dates?
USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 20:48:41 (MDT)
Dennis, I have a buddy that lives in Ontario. Name is Wayne Vrabic and he has a 55 Ford Crown Victoria in his garage.
Gale Beard 67-68
Clinton, In USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 18:34:15 (MDT)
Just wanted to thank you guys for visiting my website. And thanks, too, for the nice comments. I finally have a blog set up if you like to leave comments for anyone there. If you have any pictures of the 498th you'd like to share (like Fred mentioned) you could email them to me. I'll check with my webmaster to see if I can get them posted. Thanks again guys...Dennis Bishop
Dennis Bishop <keyman@uia.net>
Ontario, ca USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 18:23:27 (MDT)
Rick, obviuosly I'm not a big Nascar fan............ITD ?
USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 16:37:42 (MDT)
Way to go James, now your in the system and that is great. Still on my phone calling here and just talked to Dale Wysocki this afternoon. Found out he was with Mr Hendrix when he was shot down one of the times. He said he has a lot of pictures from than so again begging him to get them scanned to post here. Also hoping this year he can make it to Kokomo from Vegas. All brothers take care!
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 16:26:17 (MDT)
Thanks to all that made this site possible. It is the only place that I found answers for filing VA claims. I have just received a 30% disability. Thanks again
James Ellis <drellis101@hotmail.com>
Newport, NC USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 08:08:46 (MDT)
Yes I work on hid ITD team
Rick Stevenson <Truckcopter@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 19:54:00 (MDT)
Rick, are you in JR's crew?
USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 19:47:25 (MDT)
Hello to everyone, look at flight log each, in the middle of racing season right now. Still with Dale Jr. we are getting better each week. hope every stays well the Va give me 70% after 3 years wait, more later
Rick Stevenson <truckcopter@aol.com>
Southside, Al USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 16:58:47 (MDT)
Ray- I still remember every mission I was on. I don't remember any dates as while being their one day was just like the next. I was in the 129th for 6/7 mo before I came home. I spent the frist 3/4 mo with the 554 radare maint co. I mos was 154E Chemical Staff Spec but the 129th made me a gunner in the cobra plt at frist then I went to slicks. I never really got to know anyone by name it was always a hurry up thing to get aborn and when the mission was over everyone took off to where ever and I spent alot of time by myself and I stayed close to the flight line waiting for the next round.
James Ellis <drellis101@hotmail.com>
Newport, NC USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 11:21:06 (MDT)
I was talking with a young Marine helicopter mechanic over the weekend. He mentioned they still use Huey's and Cobra's and that earlier this year they started receiving updated models. I checked the Bell web site and was suprised to see how Bell has improved upon their design. It is worth checking out. They call them the UH-1Y and AH-1Z now.
Jerry H.
Pa. USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 11:05:38 (MDT)
been 2 thouand miles since last checking in.From Atlanta,went to lagrange ( Art,was 1:30 in the morn),took it up to about 50 miles east of Saint Paul,then up..way up,into north Wisconsin,then back here till 11 tonight.EEEEKKKK,almot hit a skunk,whew,was a close one.
USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 10:26:51 (MDT)
Hello to every one.Well i am doing wel we got a new dog it's a Germn Shepard I have to tke her a lotwalk her aroud the house 2 or 3 times but she wount ude the bath room utitlies, at times she dose, so we work on that, i sent ou a lot of dvd to some of you that you can watch on tv some of you should have them buy now, bll Wolf did you get yours ;-), Tell kat I am working on her music cds got 3 so far. Gently i just sent 3 more cds out today i hope you like. I sent cp dvd of all the reiouns that he can wach on tv hope he See them. let me how they cam out, i can't tell you how good i feel. still have some thingsbut nothing like before. i go out all the time. i am trying to put music to Dvds i have the program but don' under stand how to do it.I think under things is my bigest problem. But I will learn. I am glad to be back here.Thanks for listing o me wine at times.I just hope you all get the DVDs.now I know how much Bill & Kat do but like them I hd a good time. Rob it's nice talking to you and Alex.Well I went on Enough, Kat I start working on your CDs, ask Gently how she likes the ones I sent her. Oh Gemtly let me how you like them So you all take care a brother always Ray Be safe Wink take care
Ray <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 08:22:06 (MDT)
Just a quick note that I talked to CW4 Lee Hendrix AKA: "Magnet Ass" for a couple hours last night. Again knowing what little history we have for later on like 1972. I am still trying to get his tape of them being shot down as it would be a great piece of unit history & having no idea if any copies remain. Just remember listening to it at night in our houch as I was the replacement CE for one of them. It is amazing talking to guys now as the memories are so different. Still he got shot down twice as a new Warrant and so many years later at his retirement still had the nick name. Of coarse getting shot down twice within two weeks in the 129th, he must have had it comming, LOL. For me it is hard to believe that in Sept it will be two years for finding you guys. I already wish I had more free time to just call and talk to the ones I have found through this site. Each call brings back more of my own memories but as I told him the time line is still messed up. Just can't remember dates or who I was flying with other than the gunner they stuck me with after he wrecked the CO's jeep. Than only remember his last name as being Hudson. Still it all plays into what we were doing at the minute back than in our own little world there. It took me awhile to go through everything on the Dust Off sight but it was so worth the time. Well to close, the only reason I am up so early is my stepson just wrecked our van on the way home from the bar. For those who went to Mark's it is Brandon's father. We also have him full time now I think as his mother could no longer deal with him. Still after my wife left to the hospital my first thought was thanking God for always bailing us out money wise. I don't know if we deserve it but so far when we get bad off something happens to keep us out of the poor house. Guess he knows that we are here to take care of so many people, well that is because my wife will take in every stray dog, cat or person. I deal better with little old ladies that think they are still in London during the bombing, feeling bad because we couldn't handle getting her in and out of bed so also had to let her go to a nursing home just last week.. Already miss her accent and comments. The crop dusters have been flying here for weeks and she kept thinking the were German's wanting to get all the kids in the basement. Well enough hot air from Ken for one post. Just can't go back to bed. All take care and be safe out there.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 04:06:49 (MDT)
Alex, I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your father.
USA - Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 10:39:06 (MDT)
Alex, I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your father. Gerald
USA - Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 10:37:04 (MDT)
Hey Gale, how are you and Debbie doing? Naw, my tounge is short just like everything else. It's been raining here in upstate NY like every where else. We just haven't had any flooding like the mid west. We did get our usual July amount in one day though....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, July 27, 2008 at 07:13:48 (MDT)
Jim & Sue, congrats on the newborn. Miss you guys! Gale
USA - Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 15:38:50 (MDT)
Robbie, from what I hear........you do! Hehehehehhe
USA - Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 15:37:51 (MDT)
Congrats Sue & Jim very nice to see a new life, missed ya at St louis>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71 72
Sheridan, wyoming USA - Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 14:59:45 (MDT)
Ray, I got the picture of your new dog. I'm glad you have someone to be with you all the time. What's his name Gene Simmons? Wish I had a tongue like that....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, July 26, 2008 at 13:29:19 (MDT)
Wanted to share some good news. Our first and only grandson was born Friday in Hudson Wisconsin. Our daughter, Stacy, had her first baby, Lucas. Gpa Jim says he'll fill Lucas in on the 129th when he gets older. That makes 2 granddaughters and a grandson. It is a wonderful blessing. Sue H.
Jim Hydinger
USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 18:32:40 (MDT)
So sorry to hear about your Dad, Alex. It is a tough time. Sue & I are thinking of you. Jim H.
Jim Hydinger
USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 18:19:55 (MDT)
Dennis Bishop, I got alot of pictures of the 498th...I think the "statue of limitations" is up by now......couple of the hooches that were mostly "counter culture" folks.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 16:15:59 (MDT)
Dennis Bishop, I got alot of pictures of the 498th...I think the "statue of limitaions" is up by now......couple of the hooches that were mostly "counter culture" folks.
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 16:15:35 (MDT)
Alex.....Sorry to hear of your father`s passing.
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 16:09:53 (MDT)
Alex,sorry to hear of your fathers passing.The man up stairs will take care of him.I will remember him in my prayers.Dennis Bishop,good pictures.Sent you a dustoff cap in the mail today.Enjoy.Hope to see all at Kokomo This year.
jim <dustoff>
shiloh, il USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 13:00:57 (MDT)
Alex and Liz, may God grant His comfort to you in this tough time... Dennis Bishop, a pleasure to meet you, and thanks for the link to your outstanding website! Everyone, you need to visit it!
Dave Powers
USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 10:55:19 (MDT)
Alex, please accept our deepest condolences for the loss of your dad. We have been on the road for 2 weeks and haven't had a chance to check in until today. Bill & Kat
Bill & Kat Wolf
USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 09:49:06 (MDT)
Alex, We are sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad. Our thoughts are with you............Gale & Debbie
USA - Friday, July 25, 2008 at 06:18:58 (MDT)
sitting in Atlanta till the morn,Mark,was south bound on Ohio 127 last night,but dont have your number,so cruised on through.
USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 18:56:46 (MDT)
condolences from my family to yours Alex.
USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 18:54:40 (MDT)
Alex, Sorry for your loss. Greg Henkel
Puna, HI USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 14:59:19 (MDT)
Alex your DAD is with all his BROTHERS & you see your DAD one day so take care.
USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 08:22:33 (MDT)
Alex......I'm so very sorry. God has a special place for Veterans and it is where Peace is found. Welcome to our 2 new brothers(FNG):>)) This is a warm, loving, ailing group...welcome home. Ray...I'm still playing your Alaska CD everyday, twice a day, while I drive to work and back home. It's so relaxing and calming. Thank you so much ..it's a wonderful gift. I recently deposited our money from prizes at the re-union. Sadly, it was under $500, but we all know that it will help get someone to the re-union next year. So thank you to all who participated. Sticks, I wish we had done a "drawing" for the knives. According to our friend and brother Jim(Dust Off) they were worth several thousand dollars: had I known that I would have made it fair across the board and done a raffle. Forgive me, I was out of the loop on the value of the knives, and I know how much you wanted them. Joe and I are busy planning a "Run for the Fallen" for Aug 24th...we'll be walking though:>))) We miss all of you. While you're out there looking for cars, let me know if you see any good grocery carts for upcoming "Bag Lady" days. L-Gently
USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 07:56:16 (MDT)
Alex & Liz. Sorry for your loss or your DAD.
Don & Val McCort
TN USA - Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 06:03:00 (MDT)
Al & Liz, very sorry, i have been off for a bit & having some pc probs. SLOW HAND SALUTE FOR AN AMERICAN VETERAN OF "THE GREATEST GENERATION". Mine was one too. Did you get the pics on photo share of the reunion??? If not i'll send a CD. God bless you, Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wyoming USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 20:19:43 (MDT)
Alex, I am sorry for your loss. I left Viet Nam 41 years ago today.
J. W. Wilson
Kinston, NC USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 18:25:35 (MDT)
Alex, sorry to hear about your Dad passing. Slow hand salute rendered to him. Ray, nice talking to you yesterday. I enjoyed the dvd's you sent and thanks for the shirt from the reunion. I hope you enjoy the dvd I sent of my 183 year old estate in upstate NY.... Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 12:05:18 (MDT)
Alex, my thoughts are with you in the loss of your father. I hope he went in piece as I know the loss of a father is very hard. Brother my preyers go with you.
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 09:47:00 (MDT)
Alex, Dee and I will keep you in our prayers. Salute to your Pop............
USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 08:38:41 (MDT)
Hello flight from the UK. Alex sorry to hear about your dad. You're in our thoughts and prayers. 509 getting ready for a busy few weeks taking part in various shows around the country. Due to popular demand on youtube for a video compilation of 509 doing what she does best ie makes lots of noise, I have posted a video showing her in flight but this time with no music except that which 509 makes with her massive rotors. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdmG7eQXJEc All the best to you all from the 509 crew
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 08:07:59 (MDT)
Alex, My sincere condolences on your loss. Certainly a slow Hand Salute is rendered!.. Wishing you and Liz the best in these hard times... Love and Brotherhood.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
St Joseph, MI USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 07:07:43 (MDT)
Slow Hand Salute for my Dad. He passed away on Monday in Barberton, Ohio at the age of 86. He was a navy vet. He will be missed.
Collierville , TN USA - Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 06:52:58 (MDT)
Medford, Oregan rings a bell. I had a buddy who I went to see on my way to Korea. Dennis that is a great bunch of pictures on your site. Anyone should visit the Dust Off site as it has different views of Lane. All take care and Kokomo is around the corner..
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 19:36:06 (MDT)
dennis;nice to see you post. these guys are the nicest bunch of guys i have ever met. i am sure you will be welcome. don't pay much attention if one of them tries to sell you pictures of me in a skirt and heels.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 19:32:28 (MDT)
Dennis; nice to see you post and i am sure you will be welcome here just as jim and i have been welcomed here
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 19:19:28 (MDT)
I visited the 498th page (having been with the unit before joining the 129th). Well done with lots of great pictures. Night shots of gunships hosing down the perimeter (cobras?) were especially interesting. The pictures are just shakey enough to capture the adrenaline of the moment. Thanks again Dennis. Aloha, Greg Henkel
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 18:04:13 (MDT)
A couple of the Dust Off guys suggested that I drop by to introduce myself and to invite you to visit my website; 498thdustoff.com. I have a number of pictures of 129th ships (taken from my guard tower located at the end of the runway) and quite a few of Lane AHP. I spent just over a year at Lane (from December '69 to December '70) and, it was a privilege and an honor to have served with the men of the 498th. I also want to thank you all for your service. And Welcome Home... Dennis Bishop
Dennis Bishop <keyman@uia.net>
Ontario, Ca USA - Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 16:52:01 (MDT)
the name does not sound familiar, but probably many of us would say our memory is not as good as it used to be
Larry Dyer
USA - Monday, July 21, 2008 at 04:02:59 (MDT)
Welcome home Larry. Make yourself at home here at the 129th. Did you know Gary Villamaino (394th 67-68)?
Gale Beard 67-68
USA - Sunday, July 20, 2008 at 17:59:23 (MDT)
worked as 394th company clerk from March 68 to January 69. Went into supply from January 69 until March 70. Would like to hear from some of the old folks, especially like to now if anyone knows where the Wells brothers are now.
Larry Dyer <larry_dyer47@yahoo.com>
Largo, FL USA - Sunday, July 20, 2008 at 15:59:49 (MDT)
Flight; just ran across a new web site for 498th that has a lot of pics of lane and some of the 129th ships also. the site just started on july 4 2008. take a gander at 498thdustoff.com. this guy has an incredible amount of pictures. he also tells a story of a mortar attack on the flight line with mortars.GALE; the wife has consented to come to kokomo this year.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 21:59:09 (MDT)
There was an article in our local paper this past week. Said the VA did an internal audit, with staffers calling the various VA hotlines and asking for information. The 'civil servants' gave the right information barely 15% of the time! Still wondering why so many get the run-a -round?
USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 19:22:17 (MDT)
My job as a Medic took me into hundereds upon hundereds of hot LZ's,picking up wounded troops and many time takeing off just bearly with our skins.Recieving heavy fire going in and leaveing.Sometimes we even got shot down in a Hot LZ and had to fight our way out with the help of the troops.I have seen more blood and guts,bones then most surgeons here in america.And they think that I was on a Holiday.I just wish that I could take them with me on a few missions.
jim <dustoff>
shiloh, IL USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 17:28:56 (MDT)
HI Gerald is WRIGHT the va like it when a nam vet stop jumping on them about PTSD & guy that flew can get it to what all you brother did & tell them how you had to go into a LZ to put in troop or resupply hot hot LZ & take care.
USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 13:33:41 (MDT)
Gale; not sure about the wife but i'll try to get her to go. jim:do we need to start thinking about motel rooms in kokomo? flight: just got an email from va, they say my claim is at the rater, so i'm guessing i got service connection for diabetes, just got to wait for the rating.they said within 60 days i should hear.only took most of a year this time.would have been nice if they hadn't lost it the first time. see ya in kokomo
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 11:30:32 (MDT)
Gerald, The VA tells me that only 10% of the troops in Vietnam really can say that they suffer from PTSD,the rest of us were there on Holiday.I wanted to know who on staff was a Vietnam Veteran to put out so much crap.
jim <dustoff>
Shiloh, IL USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 10:45:06 (MDT)
I often read the comments on our Flight Log. I am a relative new one on this log when compared to many of you. However, often there are comments made here that we share and the brothers out there share the pain and send in a word of support. Perhaps we can at times sing with the joy over a good thing in another buddy's live. It is all important I can see that. I was reminded this morning of this event that I saw last year so I would like to share it here - it needs to be said here. With so many of our 129th brothers are having so many troubles it seems that this story is very appropriate. anyway here it is. We have in this area - near Nashville - a road named 'Vietnam Veteran's Blvd'- a major road that runs north away from I-65. Yes very nice name, etc. (As an afterthought seems that the Korean war vets got a bridge on this raod named "Korean war veterans bridge!). Anyway - a major long time talked of extension to Vietnam Veterans Blvd. was just about to be opened ( May '07). I was driving north on morning, sitting at a traffic light and over to my right I was looking at this new section of the road where it comes up to pass over the old state road. Low and behold what I saw was a three legged dog running up the wrong direction of Vietnam Veterans Blvd.!! I immediately caught the irony and the full impact of this strong piece of symbolism. The dog was us running against the flow. And I thought of all my vet buddies - all those of you guys out there who did what you thought was right back in the day and so many of you paid such a heavy price that continues. My best friend, like many of you, suffers from PTSD and just finally had receieved a V.A. settlement. The symblolism of a 3 legged dog running the wrong way on a highway named for us is just too much. Keep fighting fellows - even running against the traffic if thats what it takes! Gerald
USA - Saturday, July 19, 2008 at 09:42:51 (MDT)
HI there one thing the va will glad to see all of us dead but I not going to do it they can KISS my ass because I am going to hang in there to about 100 with some 120 that would piss them off & when I cant drive I let Scooter drive me in a 1957 IH. O if them eye drop work for your head aches I like some what they gave me help the eye the head NO THEN THEY TRIED MY EARS then I asked the doc you have stuck somthing in every hole in my body Doc do you think a SEX CHANGE might help that the only thing you havent tried there only thing is I am to old & ugly I would not maket it on the steet some one would giv me a gun & just do your self a favor & call it the end or giv me some money to go get drunk you feel better the when you waikup.
USA - Friday, July 18, 2008 at 19:48:38 (MDT)
Paul, are you bringing the "little lady" this time? Tell her that we would like to meet her!
USA - Friday, July 18, 2008 at 17:45:45 (MDT)
hello peeps im bak yo dude im in indiana jones
bob marley <narley bob@bob.con>
poop, 1222t india - Friday, July 18, 2008 at 15:28:23 (MDT)
Ken, that's alright buddy. You just crawl all you want...there might be a few us crawling around with you! Hhehehhehh
USA - Friday, July 18, 2008 at 13:49:25 (MDT)
Back home from Indy after two days worth of appt. My doctor said that there could be a thousand reasons for the burning, numbness plus lack of control over our limbs besides Agent Orange. Also that not finding a cause is not unusial. The PT guys were more worried I might cut my foot without knowing it. Also not wanting me to use a scooter because my legs are to weak already, walk through the pain, etc. The eye doctor is sending eye drops for blurred vision & headaches. The best thing from my doctor was to write done in detail every problems, when & how it started to take to my neuro appt. So for my brothers with the same kind of problems she told my wife & I that even though I think we are having the same problems it is more likely from different reasons. It sounds like the party line but I still would like to hear from more people and wonder how many of our brothers are already passed. Still looking forward to Kokomo even if I have to crawl around the place. All take care!
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, July 18, 2008 at 12:11:43 (MDT)
Hey guys; don't know if you old timers remember SP5 Larry Dyer He was Company Clerk of 394th TC from Jun 67 to May 68 then in charge of 394th Aviation supply in the 394th from May 68 to Apr 69. He made contact with me and I told him to go to the 129th site. Hope he makes contact and all you guys welcome him home. His e mail is larry_dyer47Ayahoo.com. Jack Newton
Jack Newton <jenewton@tcaexpress.net>
Hartley, IA USA - Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 18:59:52 (MDT)
ya think 15 doz will be enough.
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 15:22:29 (MDT)
Good call Paul....hehheheeheh! I drank enuff beer at Lane to float a "Shithook"......Falstaff, Hamms, San Miguel, 99 and probably a few cans of AO. Rusty ole cans, but, got me thru it! Trouble is, now too much of it takes me back.........See you in Kokomo Buddy. Breakfast is on me! I hope some more can make it. Hey, don't forget the cookies!!! Luv ya man!!!!!
USA - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 19:08:45 (MDT)
Good call Paul....hehheheeheh! I drank enuff beer at Lane to float "Shithook"......Falstaff, Hamms, San Miguel, 99 and probably a few cans of AO. Rusty ole cans, but, got me thru it! Trouble is, now too much of it takes me back.........See you in Kokomo Buddy. Breakfast is on me! I hope some more can make it. Hey, don't forget the cookies!!! Luv ya man!!!!!
USA - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 19:08:20 (MDT)
i didn't take any chances, just drank the beer, i think that was safe. see ya in kokomo
paul mcgrath
lasalle, il USA - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 18:31:46 (MDT)
Guys, beside AO there is a little Parasite that lays dormant in our system for about 40-50 years.Then it attacks our liver and colon,prostat glands.If you ever drank water in RVN. Sometimes they did not completly purafy the water and left some Parasiters.
jim <dustoff>
shiloh, IL USA - Wednesday, July 16, 2008 at 09:45:06 (MDT)
HI guy well when I was a grunt we walk throw place was nice & green cam back throw it a week later was no green I leaned on a tree & it went down they sprayed this place just be for we got here then that how come it smells like diesel. When I got to 68th top tiger & watch them spray 7 like be for diesel smell had a 3/4 tom with a tank in the back with a pump yes that same Oder that how come I had so much cut out of me & it not old age & when I lose my leg & that how come we have the same kind of trouble. The gov. sent a bunch of money over there to help the people.
USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 22:21:03 (MDT)
Wow you guys have a lot of input over the issue and I had blood test back in the 80s from the VA but later was told it is in the tissue. When I called Ray it was over his post and than found out he flew on our bird spraying the stuff. That and they dumped out and washed the bird down on the ramp and in the river. I got there in 72 and do remember seeing hand sprayers being used, but never even wondered what was in them. I do know the Army hates to throw anything away if it works. All my other test are good and hope I don't have something else going on. The thing is after things started going wrong with my nerves it just keeps getting worse. Than Art was saying the same kind of things about legs not doing what your mind tells them to or no feelings. My one foot was so dead for three years I could hit my toe with a hammer, than in January it started feeling like a blow trouch is on it. I am also not sure about my mind sometimes either but my wife keeps telling me my face is twitching on it's own. The things she read on line last night does show nerve problems from Agent Orange but turns around and said it is within a year of exposure. I would have not found you guys if not for my medical problems, but now I am starting to see something isn't right here either. The doctors I see keep acting like I am nuts instead of sick but what if we do have something in common in our later years. So we do need to work together and share medical information. All take care..
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 15:15:09 (MDT)
I have had the screening test done and the exam by the VA Doc. They were suppose to set me up at the local clinic and that was about 14 mo ago and I can't seem to push it any futher for now. I know things take time but it appears alot of people don't care about us. I know I'm not the only one in this boat. I wish all a great day
James Ellis <drellis101@hotmail.com>
Newport, NC USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 14:31:08 (MDT)
Many times I have mentioned on this site that all of you need to go to the VA and have the complete Agent Orange Screening. My type 2 Diabetes and other skin ailments were connected to AO. I like Gale have become highly allergic to fire ants Bees or anyother flying biting insect. I must carry a "eppy syringe" when ever I go outside. Anaphalatic shock is not a fun thing, been hospitalized 2 times from bee sting. This all started a few years ago. As for the loss of feeling, consider this, if you have high blood pressure and have not taken your meds like u are supposed to and possibly overweight. What u may be having is a mini stoke. Have lost 2 drivers due to mini stroke. The cause was not taking their meds for blood pressure. I am sorry u all are getting crappy service from the VA. I have never had a problem with them since I got out of the Army. Please take these facts into consideration or don't, its your life u are deaing with. Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Somewhere, FL USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 13:01:48 (MDT)
James,Your Dav rep is the one that is dead.You need to get a rep that is on your side. I know that there are Reps that are Vietnam Vetrans also.If it is dead why do they still list it in the yearly VA Handbook?
jim <dustoff>
shiloh, IL USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 12:13:26 (MDT)
I agree on the list. I have breathing problems and what I have is on the list but the don't want to do anything about it. My VA Rep say that agent orange is a dead issue. Alone you can't win but as a group that will be different. Plus we flew in and out of alot of area's and we never knew if we had been exposed. The prop wash would be enough to ster it up, so how is to say that we didn't get it.
James Ellis <drellis101@hotmail.com>
Newport, NC USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 08:55:13 (MDT)
Rick,Maybe we need to get a list of Vietnam Veterans like us that is haveing the same problems with being alergic to Chemicals.If there is enough to send in a list to the VA or take the VA to court to prove it is not Agent Orange that is causeing our problems.
jim <dustoff>
shiloh, IL USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 07:18:27 (MDT)
Correction: The Va will not pay claims for hypertension!!
USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 07:03:12 (MDT)
Well good to see the commo. Ken, I am going to a new specialist this morning for both my feet. Civilan Doctors don't know much about agent orange or any othe herbicides used in Vietnam. In a letter from the VA. Stated that if we were in Vietnam for 24 hours we came in contact with the orange. But, only certain cancer's will fall under agent orange. Agent orange will have something to do with hypertension. You can file a claim on it. Email me your phone number or call me @ 901-487-0374 my cell number. Hang in there Art. We all are here for you. Ray take care will call you. Gale if you have pictures of the St. Louis Reunion could you email me some. Forgot the camara this year. Everyone have a great day. Always A Brother!!
Alex <afernwal@comcast.net>
Collierville, TN USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 07:01:07 (MDT)
I have something similiar. I get anaphlactic shock and hives. I carry chorlo and an anna kit or a beesting kit. They don't know what causes it. I am not allergic to anything I have had the tests, but no results. My arms go numb from the shoulders down to my hands. The Va says it has nothing to do with Agent orange.***** flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 at 05:11:56 (MDT)
Ken, she is right,we slogged around on the ground and crawled thru the brush.We handled troops that had been on the ground and their clothing was soaked with the herbidside. Every time we delivered a patient to the Evac.Hosp.We had to was our hands,face,neck,arms which was burning our skin.Sometimes I thought we spent most of our time washing the crap off.What really,concerns me is the many troops that I picked-up with that chemical in their wounds,not just on the skin.Many of the Vietnames people are also suffering from the chemicals we sprayed on their country.And they do not have good medical personnel.
jim <jimu006@dustoff.net>
shiloh, IL USA - Monday, July 14, 2008 at 21:52:31 (MDT)
Jim you went ahead and said it because after my last post my wife was looking on line even though I missed the parts about nerve issues. I see my doctor Wednesday and it will be brought up. The EMG on my foot showed the nerves were messed up but they can't tell me why. Ray pointed out that sprayed it and it was dumped all over the place. Of coarse my wife read that it was supposed to show up within twelve months of exposure. You know better than the rest of us, how about the people who are living there now? That would be something to know and to compare notes. As long as I never see the same doctors it makes it hard to see what is causing it.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, July 14, 2008 at 19:16:58 (MDT)
Ken,That is what happens you are exposed to Agent Orange.Your nerves are super sensytive. they attack the whole body.Some guys bounce off the walls.It hits different people in many ways.They will dispute it at VA.Some people cannot even use bug killers around the house or the animals.I put down my hands on a counter at McD.s and soon I have to take Benedrill to keep from breaking out all over my body.I carry those pills on my keyring 24/7.
jim <jimu006@dustoff.net>
Shiloh, il USA - Monday, July 14, 2008 at 15:23:41 (MDT)
Art that sounds like crap and I am sorry to hear it. I talked to Ray a few days ago about his medical problems which copies a lot of what I have had going on. You are sort of saying some of the same things as I loose any feeling or control over my leg for just a few seconds and I hit the ground. The nerves on the whole right side of my body are going to hell in a hand baskit with no answers from the VA which is what Ray gets too. Have your doctors been able to tell you what is causing the problem? Anyone else having these kinds of problems from our unit? Take care all but wanted to kick it around as I wonder if it is something at Lane..
Ken Strong Jr. <ken7776 at aol.com>
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, July 14, 2008 at 15:09:24 (MDT)
Art...God Bless you. You're in my prayers every day, for many reasons. L-Gently
USA - Monday, July 14, 2008 at 13:59:57 (MDT)
there was another,2 door,v8,3 on the tree.priced a little higher.Been all over Arkanas the last two days,sitting in Gary In now,off to Kalamazo in a few minutes.
USA - Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 18:58:42 (MDT)
HI every one it look like we falling apart got to call the VA some time monday I went to sit down & the leg will not hold me up I fall like a brick & cant stop to I hit my a$$ hit like the head cant tell hold it the left hand thum go dead I can put a pin to the bone nothing no pain wish my arm lik that I hate shots but one thing to say I dont have no trouble wiping my but right hand still good that thing between my ears some times take a walk hunt all over the house for it then it come back. well the27 will be the first birthday she wont be here I going to put flowers on her grave I do every month but this is going to be hard
USA - Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 18:16:30 (MDT)
Read an article the other day, written by Harold Meyerson of the L.A. Weekly. He expresses amazement at the current state of affairs regarding American companies doing business with communist countries, Vietnam included. Question.... how many of us fought over there, just so we could see our jobs exported because of cheaper labor, fewer environmental rules, and less governmental oversight?.....maybe we were better off BEFORE Ronnie R. won the cold war?
USA - Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 18:15:37 (MDT)
Gale, we could set in our cabins like the spotters in WWII. Two days we had four CH-47s in formation heading NW towards Chicago. Was wondering where they came from out here. Got a shot in my back on Wed & it is already wearing out. At least had a couple days feeling better. Hay all take care..
Ken Strong Jr.
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 15:49:15 (MDT)
Hi Carolyn, I hope you two are fine. Tell Lee Hi for me! Mark, that was Alvis that give you the info on the Ford. Also, I notice that it's a 4-dr with the back doors welded shut. I didn't realize you were looking for a car....what kind do you have in mind? Hey flight, 3 Apache's just flew over the house going west..............oh what a site. They don't sound like the Huey, but, I heard them coming a long way off.
USA - Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 07:28:23 (MDT)
Mark, Gale, FYI the Dayton Air Show is July 19 & 20. The Army Aviation Heritage Foundation will be on site giving Huey rides. I still remember that thrilling ride in Atlanta! Hi to all, take care Carolyn
Carolyn Wood <cwood86700@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 22:08:20 (MDT)
Gale, out of town for a few days Will check on it. Did go to the web site though. Good looking Ford but onlt flat head 6. I'd rather have a Flat head 8. But thanks for telling me....love to all......always a brother........
USA - Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 19:00:50 (MDT)
Thanks Smitty.............
USA - Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 07:36:34 (MDT)
Art, hope to see you post on the ROK site.They will give you a warm welcome.Jut go to the "free board".
USA - Friday, July 11, 2008 at 06:47:20 (MDT)
going back out in a few hours. N.Dakota continues to elude me as the last state I havent been to.Maybe this time...
USA - Friday, July 11, 2008 at 06:40:46 (MDT)
Mark,came across this old 49 ford in the ads.It here in Indy.Just thjought you might want a look see.Its priced right at 5,200,you might even be able to talk him down. http://auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=CI6120206
USA - Thursday, July 10, 2008 at 16:27:16 (MDT)
You don't really have to drink that mess they give you. I was having this done about every 6 weeks at one time. All I did was get a enemia from the RX and use it. It will clean you out. They never had any problem with that. Just don't tell them what you did. They only check the small int anyway.
James C Ellis <drellis101@hotmail.com>
Newport, NC USA - Wednesday, July 09, 2008 at 06:32:33 (MDT)
HI every one Alvis how would you like to have it every year I do the only thing I only got less than a foot to check dont half to take stuff to drink I just live on JELLO for 5 day clean to bone I had it that I can tell if somthing not wright it was in black & white now in living color that geting a bird eye look & when the DOC get throw I tell him it OK & if I get a new doc how do you know doc I had more stuck in me you got hair on your head & this has been going on from 1980 & I thank GOD that it the same every year.
USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 20:04:58 (MDT)
well,had the colonscopy done today.For once,things went smoothly down at VA.cant drive a big truck for 48 hours now, so off to do the "honey do' list.
USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 18:38:41 (MDT)
what am I, chopped liver?
USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 15:32:26 (MDT)
Mark, will do! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 08:57:12 (MDT)
me too
USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 at 06:25:34 (MDT)
Bill Wolf.....I got the CD you sent but it was broke. BUT that's OK cause you gave me one just like it in St. Louis. When I ask you to send me the video from the reunion that the 509 crew sent I ment the one from last years reunion in Orlando. You played it there for us and it was the one that Simon shot and a long version of our trip there. Do you no which one I mean? Simon gave me one but it's the kind that you can't play on most units unless you have a unit made in Finland or something. But the one you played in Orlando must work because you did play it. So if you still have a copy of it could you dub me one and send it. Thanks brother...........
USA - Monday, July 07, 2008 at 21:06:02 (MDT)
881,Seabreeze Dr.,Avon,In. 46123.
USA - Monday, July 07, 2008 at 08:26:07 (MDT)
I havent finihed the book yet.Seems so far he is in favor of Nationial self interest first, no more foriegn aid,no more troops in 130 countries around the world,ect.One point that had me wondering..we give Isreal 2 billion a year in aid...why? No wonder it so difficult to get VA aid,,at reduced expense or none at all.
USA - Monday, July 07, 2008 at 08:23:50 (MDT)
Fred Alvis, i need your snail mail addy to send the cd please>>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wyoming USA - Monday, July 07, 2008 at 06:14:32 (MDT)
HI well I got to see Scooter to day my daughter & her bad half came to I got a lawn mower for them no for Tammy he so bad he roled it to the back of the car & open the trunck then sat his big fat ass in the car & I had to put it in the trunck & I know how will take it out Tammy if I did not care & the bolit is wirth more than he is I shout him but he not worth going to JAIL for & I got to show Scooter how to do things to help his mother out because but hole cant & they went home now I got to take some pills to com down O there one thing he good at running his fat lip on the cell phone every time I look at him he got it in gear wide open. I hope he one of a kind & no one got one to.
USA - Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 20:31:48 (MDT)
Fred...Ron Paul is not a big advocate of my "retirement pension program". He`s one of the people who wanted to put my retirement system into the SS system......That means....I can`t vote against my own self interest.....
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 17:19:36 (MDT)
scaggs, have you read Ron Pauls book?
USA - Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 15:36:20 (MDT)
Don, it appears to have really changed back into what appears to be "green area" over time. That suprises me with all the concrete hootchpads that were in place when we left. Oh well things change.. I believe you are close with your coordinates as I have 13 48 00 and 109 05 50 for the location of "South Hotel" or the main landing/takeoff pad. I think the designation that Google Earth is using is more for the location of the "North Hotel" pad near the Hook companys location. That area on the new Google map is pretty clear with some buildings and road area showing up, even though none of it looks familiar to me now. I hope everyone had a great 4th and are also having a great summer.. take care . C Ya.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
USA - Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 07:41:56 (MDT)
been looking at Google Earth does anyone have the coordinates for Lane ? I found something at 13d 48m 38s N, 109d 05m 48s E. it looks like an airfield but not lane as I remember it. where I have Lane marked is SE of that location but I can't get the pic to clear up. and there are a lot of clouds too. Later, Don
Don Miller
USA - Sunday, July 06, 2008 at 00:03:59 (MDT)
Fred I didn't post the site to start anything just "FYI" if interested. Later, Don
Don Miller
USA - Saturday, July 05, 2008 at 22:30:40 (MDT)
Simon I downloaded and then watched your video of the 509 taking off. (1 hr for my slow puter) The only thing I couldn't hear and I remember it distinctly is the sound of the main rotor when you're standing right under neath and it gets to a certain speed it would make a whoshing noise that would last a few rotations, and then it would go to it's operating speed noise. Great stuff though. It always takes me back and puts a smile on my face.... Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, July 05, 2008 at 09:10:24 (MDT)
Well Don, since most here are in "mourning their hero" Jesse Helms passing, I`ll leave it alone. It's a shame Jesse didn't live to see the first black President of the United States.
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Saturday, July 05, 2008 at 06:33:08 (MDT)
Evening all, hope everyone had a great 4th. and I hope everyone has a better boss than I have ... he made me work till noon. (oh I forgot I'm the BOSS.) oh well LOL. RAY, it was great talking to you again I checked out the web sites you sent me .... very inlightening. I will have to talk to the DR. about it, it sounds very familiar. I was sent a web site and I thought it was very interesting it is a 13 min. video and yes it is political so what it is about or whom it is about I will not say here but if you are interested click on my name and watch it. I found it very informative. later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Saturday, July 05, 2008 at 01:00:18 (MDT)
Simon , I always wandered how our "Brit Cousins" viewed our holiday of July 4th, never approached that question before....
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 20:08:55 (MDT)
HAPPY 4th of JULY to all that have been there and done that and are now trying to Enjoy the fruits of their labors.Have a good one Brothers.
jim (dustoff)
Shiloh, IL USA - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 18:10:52 (MDT)
Happy 4th of July to you all. Just posted some pictures of 129th ships, on the Yahoo site, I come across in a now out print book I have just bought. One is of Bill Gambriels gunship. The other two of ship 632. Interesting it has a 129th cobra tail with a '57' door, or is it the other way round? See what you think. I look forward to your thoughts. Once again HAPPY 4th OF JULY guys and gals we'll drink a toast to you this evening. The 509 crew
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 09:55:25 (MDT)
Amen Bill............
USA - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 08:33:59 (MDT)
Simon, What a mind job. The Sound of the slick cranking up( I could smell the burning JP-4), the sound of the blades starting to turn.:-)/:-)) I got goose bumps.Great Video.You guys have done a terrific job. 509 looks Great. What a nice flight & great landing - nice & easy.Take care.Clear left. Buldog 426 Out.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 08:33:35 (MDT)
Just want to wish all of you a happy, fun, and safe 4th of July. Bless all those who fought for our freedom and to all those who continue to be the guardians of our country. And a quick salute to my son Cadet 1st Sgt James Wolf, US Army. And, last - but not least - to all of us who had the privilage of serving. Always A Brother! Bill
Bill Wolf <Bulldog129thAHC@aol.com>
USA - Friday, July 04, 2008 at 08:22:10 (MDT)
Smitty.....5029 St. Anthony Rd.Celina, Ohio 45822............
USA - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 21:08:09 (MDT)
I had to jump in and let everyone know I got a letter from the judge for my Social Security Hearing today for August 27th. Just three weeks short of the three year mark. I really wonder if it all age or what we went through in the Army. I came out of Nam sick and continued on running five miles for 13 months in Korea in Combat Boots, not to mention just stupid things like jumping out of airplanes. Last I have to give a thumbs up for the Columbian Marines who I had the honor to serve with for a few weeks while in Panama. They really pulled it off this time.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 17:11:07 (MDT)
Smitty, no problem. 510 E 2nd St / Clinton, In 47842
USA - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 15:51:04 (MDT)
Mark, if you will send me a snail mail addy, you too Fred A., i will send a CD with the 94 pics i took . File too large to send. i have tried everything i know. Gale I will send you one too, got the poster & thanks a lot, will frame it>>>> smitty
jim westwang 71 72
Sheridan, wyoming USA - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 10:52:16 (MDT)
Hey Simon, thanks for the link... It is much more of a thrill to hear and see a Huey crank and fly off now than it was 40 yeard ago!!.. Thanks again and keep the blue side up.. C Ya L8r.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 07:47:19 (MDT)
Forgot to put this link on aswell for a video of our departure from Speke. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d0dIH6bYdY Enjoy this one also. Take care Simon and the rest of the 509 team.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, 509 County UK - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 05:07:11 (MDT)
New videos of 509 on youtube. This one is of us flying into the old Speke airport in Liverpool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxls6h6sDQ This was filmed by yht police helicopter and has some great thermal imaging along with great shots of the city of Liverpool as the back drop including the Anglican Cathedral. If you look for speke helicopter you will come across some footage from the ground of us approching aswell. Enjoy
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktal.net>
Mellor, 509 county UK - Thursday, July 03, 2008 at 02:30:18 (MDT)
Got this reply back after sending him the log notes on file. The picture he noted did not send this time but if I get any I will post.------------------------Snoopy_------- Good Morning All Thank you so much for your quick response. We are currently operating her here in Cape Town South Africa doing simulated Combat flights. Out of all our ships she is our pride and joy, she grows on you from the 1st glance. We only got here about 2 years ago, we were ready to ship here as hurricane Katrina hit. She was on the docks in New Orleans ready to be shipped as that devastating hurricane tore through. The sheriff ended up taking control of her to help in the rescue efforts, still canít believe she was Not damaged bad at all. So you see there is more and more history been added to here by the day and what Iím trying to do Is building up a, as full history for her with a plague commemorating her life in service. Thank you all once again Regards Raymond Ps. I have attached a picture of here and will send more in the coming days > Helicopter UH-1D 66-01009
Gary Woodward <garywdsi@yahoo.com>
Memphis, TN USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 18:31:09 (MDT)
hi all how are you doing we made it home cant wait to get to dr my bons hurt inside bad i drop every thing he va forgot to send my mood med take care gently did you like the cd got to go my arm i killing from trping you must thin iam a pain or a wimp but my mussel is killing me see ya abrother alway ray oh thanks bill and kat i try to callsome of ou love al my brothers nd sisters a brother always ray
ray <stilwating@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 13:15:05 (MDT)
What a re-union! What a beautiful re-union. I love seeing all of you...wish it was possible to do such more often. A special thank you to all for the wonderful music box, which just happens to play one of my favorite songs, It's a wonderful life. When I FINALLY got home I found the gift cards...geez you people! I think I may have to purchase some items for next years' auction/raffle.....or I may get a massage:>)) Hmmm...tuff one. Newt and George....very cool to have met you. C.P....missed you. Mr. Van Horn.....thank you for the "Dust Off" cap...see you in Kokomo. What a re-union! Oh, one more thing....I really don't look like those re-union photos pretend I do! Geez! L-Gently
USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 12:46:21 (MDT)
ADDRESS CHANGE: Hey gang, now that my year as VHCMA President is completed, I'm going to be going to a new email address: Bulldog129thAHC@aol.com. Hope you'll edit your address books and stay in touch! Always a Brother! Bill
Bill Wolf <Bulldog129thAHC@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 08:10:55 (MDT)
Mark, I think the reason for the short hours in company was that we were getting new "H" models about that time and it was turned in for a new one. I flew one ship down to Siagon about that time for an exchange so thats what I think happened. I emailed Ray with what details I had as I was there then..and told him about the "Helicopter" listings on the 129th Main Page.. Take care... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
St Joseph, MI USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 at 06:58:22 (MDT)