Leaning out into the wind,sighting over the barrel of the maching gun,he pulled the twin triggers,unleashing fire and smoke,ripped away by the slipstream. Empty brass cascaded in a bright tumbleing line,earthward,the sun glinting off the edges. It was the first lift, of a company sized cambat assault,arriving at the Landing zone. First lifts were always the most scarest, I suppose because of the unknown welcome we would sometimes recieve. Thats why first lifts always went in "guns hot". That day, things were fairly calm,no-one shot back. A few more lifts and the helicopter crews went home,leaving the grunts in a very quiet,elephant grass filled ,rolling valley area. Things had been to quiet. After the ships left, the newcommers were welcomed by the NVA. All night long, their morters impacts ,danced in the moonlight,green tracers zipping in, smacking into flesh. Early the next day,Dustoffs made the first vists, with us close behind. The pilot told us we were taking in replacements and ammo, for the men and the lead, that had been used up that night. We landed in a cold LZ. The grunts had secured a large area around them.I suppose Charley was resting up from his busy night. The LZ looked like Dantes "Hell",the place was barely under "havic" conditions. The grunts were lined up,waiting on us,taking out our load piecemeal,but hurriedly so. Then they told us what we would carry back.There was a long line of black bags.Each contained a dead solider,some killed the night before,some only a few hours ago. As they loaded the black bags,the crew didnt say a word.They didnt eat,didnt drink,and they didnt laugh or joke,as crews always do in these "down waits". They did smoke,they chained smoked.The only words spoken during the entire time was,clear left and right,at lift off. Up into the blue sky they flew.The only sounds was the wind rushing by and the wop of the blades.Death was on board. Black,cold,depressing,supressing ,death.The black body bags rippled in the wind,lined up across the cabin.Tight bands,in several places, wrapped each one.Still the crew didnt speak,each one,depressed by the cargo of black death.Knowing we may have smoked or joked,smiled at or helped,someone in the black bag.They didnt roll around,or move,they just laid there.They stared at us.They spoke to us in unspoken words.You brought me here to die.Why are you still alive and I am dead? I am so young and was so full of life,now I am dead.Do you hear my mother crying? Do you see the tears in my fathers eyes? The flight continued on in black silence.The air was heavy.For some reason,I cant remember arriving to unload our "cargo".I do remember that flight.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 16:45:25 (MST)

J.W. Bummer man, you are in our prayers.
Mark
USA - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 10:33:06 (MST)

"J.W." my prayers are with you.
Alton Page
columbia, sc USA - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 06:22:23 (MST)

J.W. just wanted to add that your family is in my thoughts as with so many others. Both my parents past many years ago and still think of things I could have said or asked them. My mother had a stroke about two years before her passing and know how hard it is to see them fade away. Now it is still hard seeing freinds & my brother in law mostly who has so many health problems from which the doctors say he is on browered time. It is nice knowing that I have my brothers here now to share with. Guess none of us knows what Gods plan is for us, just know that he has one. For me now it is seeing day by day what that is. Again to all our brothers please take care.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 09:33:04 (MST)

J.W. You and your family is in our thoughts and Prayers. I myself will be heading for Barberton Ohio later this weekend. My Mother and Dad has both been in the hospital this past weekend. My cousin called me and told me that I needed to come home. And Liz's Dad had mini stroke friday in Columbus, Ga. Liz finally got him transfered to Knoxville. It's been a rough week. Always A Brother. PS Bill and Smitty, It's looks like a go on the guest speakers. I have got half of the board members to respone so far. But still working on a postive from all the Board Members.
Alex
USA - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 07:26:02 (MST)

Bernie, I've got an "incorrect" phone number for you. Please log in & call with the correct phone number.
Bruno E. Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 07:09:53 (MST)

JOE OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO YOU & YOUR FAMILY & ARE PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU 7 YOUR FAMILY Glenda & Arthue Foster.
Arthur E Foster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 15:45:41 (MST)

Joe...my arms are around you..always. Please take care of yourself. I just saw the BBC video..I'm still crying. Phew....L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 15:04:43 (MST)

JW, Our deepest condolences to you. Are prayers are with you.
Bill
USA - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 08:30:16 (MST)

"J.W." My deepest condolences.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 08:04:18 (MST)

J.W., I'm sorry for your loss. Robbie
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 07:26:30 (MST)

JW, OUR CONDOLANCES GO OUT TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.................... GALE & DEBBIE
Gale
USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 21:45:08 (MST)

Thank you my brothers and sisters of 129th, Mom had been in declining health for awhile in advance stages of diabetes refusing dialysis. She is now in a place of no pain. You can see death coming in cases similar to hers and try to prepare but you will never be totally prepared.
J. W. Wilson
Kinston, N.C. USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 20:38:11 (MST)

very sorry, don't know how i read the message wrong, my prayers are with joe's family>>>>>> respects>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 17:18:40 (MST)

very sorry, don't know how i read the message wrong, my prayers are with joe's family>>>>>> respects>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 17:18:24 (MST)

my condolances
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 16:25:09 (MST)

Smitty, that`s Joe Wilson`s mother.....
Fred Skaggs
NJ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 13:00:45 (MST)

Fred S. , May God be with you & yours at such a time & my prayers are with you all>>>>>>>>>> my condolences & respects>>>> Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 11:47:03 (MST)

Fred, I did write a letter (and included photos) to the Prime Minister Tony Blair. Believe it or not, I got a letter back saying that they were forwarding the information to the Dept of Transp. I know that it was probably just a "brush off", but at least its more of a response than I've gotten from my Congressman so far! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 10:58:02 (MST)

Flight...Brother Joe Wilson lost his mother, day before yesterday. Please take time out of your day to say a prayer for Brother Joe and lend him support in his time of grief.
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 08:45:15 (MST)

flight, Phil has sent me 3 CDs of the program, "Inside Out". The contents of the CDs can be viewed at "you tube", most of you have seen it. We all know Phil is in a race against time,as the air show season is starting soon and he wants to retain the 129th numbers/US Army on the tail boom,509 on the tail, ect. Washington DC is 600 miles from me,so i simply cannot go knocking on the " Dept of the Army" doors. Is there anyone close enough,and willing to do that? I will send you the CD, its a great tool, fast and simple. (10 minutes). Another road we might take,is trying to get some media attention. Anyone have any "connections" in that area? TV or radio is best,as magazines have about a 3 month lead in period.( I am still going to go back to the American Legion World Headquarters with this)Anyone hear from the General? Anyone live close enough to go knock on his door? Ron Paye (Mr.,WO 4) told me he is going back this summer, to attend one of the airshows. It would be a shame if the 509 wasnt in colors. Our public servants (read that congressmen) havent seemed to interested, but lets continue to persue the road as well. I have the papers ( in email) that tells exactly whom( and where) this needs to go to in the English goverenment.The English goverenment is very warm to the idea,its our side thats screwing things up. Remember also, Phil flies the 509 to the airshows,ect. for childrens chairity donations.( and ,of course, for the love of a huey, we all know that feeling).I/we need help guys. Thanks. Hey Gently,you have any connections at state level that could get our foot in the door or any attention to this matter?
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 07:25:41 (MST)

JUST A LTTLE HELLO HOPE ALL ARE WELL RACING SEASON STARTED AGAIN IN CA FOR THE RACE HOPE ALL GOES WELL WITH THE BOOK ALLBE SAFE RICK
RICK STEVENSON <TRUCKCOPTER@AOL.COM>
SOUTHSIDE, AL USA - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 06:56:24 (MST)

Bill,I need to call down to the state tax office and see if its still good.I havent done anything with the "tax numbers" in two years,so let me get back to you on that sometime early next week.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 04:32:33 (MST)

BOOK UPDATE: Just a quick update. Seems like the more I try and do a final proof reading, I find even more stuff to put in. The books up to 314 pages and still growing a bit. Talked with Bill Whelan who is going to do the printing. We are shooting to print around mid-April. That should give us time to get them printed and ready for the VHCMA reunion and to start sending them out. Don't have a price yet. Am also considering including a DVD with photos and movies. Bill has about 2 hrs of movies he is going to send to me and I'll try to use some of that also. If you have any movies you can make copies of, please let me know via email. My address is in the contact section. Again, I think you'll be please with the results. I'm also considering printing 300 instead of 200 as I think there will be that demand (am buying 10 copies myself!). Will keep you updated. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 17:50:04 (MST)

Hey, I'm ok guys. Shoot what I go through ain't nutin' like the real thing you guys do. It just makes my heart go out to you even more. I wish I would of done more for all of you a long time ago. But hey, we are doin' it now. Been in touch with Billy Perri lately. His father passed away. Billy was Larry's DG for a spell and they were very good drinkin' friends while in the 129th.Take care all of you. I love you all..........
Mark
USA - Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 16:26:02 (MST)

Fred (or whom ever): I need to talk to whoever can update me on the incorporation of the 129th. Please either call me (719.380.9653) or email me with a phone number. Thanks. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 15:16:07 (MST)

Hello all...hope things are better for Fred and Mark...wish i could be at your side. The 129 posters will be sent out as soon as I get to a store to purchase the mailing supplies I need..hopefully Saturday. In the work that Joe and I have been doing with our Families of the Fallen here in WI, we were able to get our Governor to declare April 14th as WI Gold Star Family Day..the first ever anywhere...we're working on IL doing the same thing. If any of you want such in your state let me know and I'll email you the Proclamation I wrote up....just wish I could have been there for our Families of the Fallen during Vietnam...bummed. L-J
Gently
USA - Thursday, February 22, 2007 at 14:16:53 (MST)

Ken...I'm waiting for the day when one of the foreign suppliers of something of military importance refuses to supply some component necessary to our national defense, because they don't agree whatever cause we're supporting. Until then, we're stuck with the exporting of our jobs. It started long before NAFTA. There was a time when 'made in Japan' meant junk. We're so far past that point, and so much has gone overseas, that there's no use complaining about it. I just hope the politicians will be willing to run up a deficit in order to keep the social security checks coming!! They don't seem to have a problem with deficit spending on all the other programs..........my time in Vietnam was relatively peaceful. no TET 68, no Ia Drang, no Easter offensive. Any trouble we got into was stuff we started, or rather, stuff the Koreans got into. Usually a few gun runs and head for home. I can only recall a couple day long fire missions. For that, I'm thankful. Other than that, it was LZ preps, perimeter probes, dust off support, snoopys...and convoy cover. I won't claim to be totally sane, hell, I wasn't sane when I went over there in the first place :>)) I have learned to be at peace with myself, and I understand that politicians don't really care about common folks who get killed in service to our country. Just as in Vietnam, they'll spend a lot of time looking for a way to blame the other party for losing, in hopes that they can use that to win the next election. If a bunch more folks have to die while they're doing that...well, they ARE volunteers, right?....I doubt that anything I'm writing will cure the nightmares, if I were religeous, I'd say that God spared me for a reason, and it's not for me to question. I happen to believe that it was all pretty much random circumstance, I'm still alive because I am. no more, no less......we went where we were told to go, and we did what we were told to do. hope you get a peaceful night's sleep. take care
Kim
USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 18:03:26 (MST)

Hi well we had some girl go topless in this one horse town they take the side walks up at knight well the cop had a had a free show & a guy broke into some locker & took some cred cards went next door got a big screen tv & filled out for the extended warreant shore are some people that are a brick short of a pile well it got up to 65 today short sleev got to get some thing off the tables & every ware so they can rip out the old carpet & put in new me & the wife are going to watch the movie cars tonight 7 e watch the movie the other night flags of are fother & the only thing it don to me is like a lot of us is to have dreams that would not like to have wife told me do you want to go to the hospital to get a shot that will put you out for the next 12 I told here nop got to get Scooter so had a bad night took some traz adone about 300 & that took some of the fealing off take care art
ArthurFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, Ga. USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 16:59:15 (MST)

Don, I hope Donna does well with what the dr's have done for her this time. She and you both deserve some good luck. Surprised to see it's 40 degrees out here and it's raining now. What a break from all of that snow and wind chills well below zero for days. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 15:15:52 (MST)

Gale,Flight I first thought I had all three trips taken care of, but the stressers got to me a bit. Over the past month there have been a few. Jan & I were having real phone problems in the apartment we had from July to Dec. My Lawyer said they broke the lease as they provided the service. We paid for the whole year, the main guy said he understood why we needed to move out. When we went back about getting the money back he now claims he never talked to me, go figure. I spent all these years thinking of my problems as the Nam Pandora's Box which had to be flat lined. Did pretty good until 911 but the box is open for better or worse. I watched the Trip Video and almost cried. I still wonder where the dreams come from but a couple nights ago I was back there at LZ English, fall of 72 refueling my aircraft where a hose ran out to be burned off. Than just a pile of white dust with the Plantatary Gears piled up from the trans. By the time I woke up I only could think of voices. There were a couple of gun ships flying in and out firing things up and can't remember what all else. Close by there was a small vill that was pretty blown up after the offencive and remember shooting down at it and all the while hearing the intercom along with all the radio transmissions in the AO. I woke up just after seeing an explosion with a cloud of smoke with hearing somebody saying they had a secondary. I knew I had been there and seen it all, but there is no details left of when or why. That was about 3AM and spent the next two hours trying to remember. The only thing that might have come to mind is it was a supply mission and we were just flying through the other mess going on. My 1st wife handed me papers after 13 years together following the 1st Gulf War. I watched several hours of the debate the house had about the War now, and went to sleep, waking up with Jan asking me why I had my hand on her troat during the night. She is asking why I am so angry all the time. I guess after dealing with things on the phone so much, saying can I talk to the person in charge. I KNOW I CAN'T BE ALONE ON THIS. Than maybe talking to three people who I can't understand because they don't speak good English. In part I feel like no one owns anything here anymore. Like my truck was built in Mexico by an American company (Dodge) owned by a German company who wonst to unload it to a French company. I worked for an American company that went out of under because they placed all the eggs into AC Delco which bought a company in Canada so the could get rid of most of the employees and have the production work done in China while still showing that the parts came from Canada???? I think my mind will blow up when a company in China comes in and buys the COLTS. Last of all I got my computer back from the Geek Squad after over a week. They blamed it all on AOL software! Maybe it was written in India.. Guys have a good day and luck finding an American.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 14:54:25 (MST)

Hey Fred.. I would sure like to get that info when you can send it to me. I have worked up another "letter" to take to my Congressman and the "to" and "from" info is just what I needed. That ought to give them a place to start as his aid wasn't any more sure on what to do than I was. Thanks... C ya... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (at) email dot com>
USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 12:56:25 (MST)

Having dish problems ,which my internet is connected to. Heavy snows melting,ice damns,ect,have created some sort of neighbor problem. Recieved an E-mail from Phil with who to contact (dept. anyway),its the Army I do believe,but emails download to slow ,to allow for sanity.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 09:32:29 (MST)

Ray (and all), when the book is printed, I will post a notice here and also send out emails letting you all know the final cost and where to send a check. I also plan to bring copies to the Orlando reunion. We plan to print 200 the first time, then more if there is a demand (which I think there will be). At this point, we aren't selling them in any book stores, but that can change too. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 08:34:54 (MST)

evening all, if you haven't been to the 509 site lately you should go, they have done a great job on the bird and the web site. I was glad to do what what I could for them. I haven't been there in a couple days so I haven't seen what he did with the info he got from my web pages. but I am sure he did a very good job with it. Alvis, Donna is doing better, I don't know if I posted it here or not but about 4 months ago she had all the "plumbing" that was put in 3 years ago removed and all of it was rerouted down the other side of her body, she was sent home with 6 open wounds to care for till they healed from the in side out. 2 are still open and are closing very nicely. but she still has good and bad days. today was a good day, we went to the renesaunce festaville (sp).... had a blast till the rain drowned us out. take care all, Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 23:42:05 (MST)

HI BIL I WAS WONDERING ARE PLANING TO PUT THE THE BOOK P FOR SALE IN ALL STORES , I WAS JUST WONDERING. I PLAN TO GET 3 ONE FOR ME MY DAUGHT AND SISTER/ CANT WAIT TO GO TO ORLANDO. OH I GOT AN OTHER QAPPT WITH DR ON THE 28th SOWE SE.WELL YOU TAKE CARE A BROTHER ALWAYS. ALVIS I KNOW NOW HOW SUE FELT NOT KMOWING. I ET YOU KNW WHEN I FIND OUT SOMETHING, BUT MY DR IS GIVING ME LOTS OF PAIN MED, SHE DONT GIVE THAT OUT MUCH. HI GENTLY ROB ALEX RICK KAL I GET BACK ON SOON TAKE CARE ALL OF YOU SEE YOUALL IN ORALANDO..A BROTHER ALWAYS RAYS
RAY
MD USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 17:23:16 (MST)

Phil said he has updated his site a bit. The history part contains work by Alex (good job Alex) and list ,with pics, our kias (hats off to Don). There is a VERY good poem in that section also thats called,,hmmm..cant remember,but its spoken,not read. something like,"he sat in the door"..anyway,its about a helicopter crew and very good. Don,how is Donna doing?
alvis
USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 16:55:18 (MST)

I talked to Phil on the phone today. I did ask him whom we need to get with ,about the issue ,of the 509 marking.First of all,it HAS to be 509 specific!It cannot be in gereral terms,so any idiot can paint whatever they want on any aircraft. It needs to be from the Dept of the Army,FAA just wont do,nor will any congressman. He is E-mailing me a paper tomorrow thatsa bit more specific,with the persons/dept name we need adress it to and from whom.Hopefully,we will aquire a target.
alvis
USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 13:43:18 (MST)

fred you an mark an most likely ron, are going through what i learned about in the stess unit at the montrose v.a.its called stressers. it common in all vets and be triggered by simple things. an your right the trip to england did just that.our minds do lock away alot of our menories of veitnam. something simple a smell can triger the release of our menories. there are certain dates an incidents that are locked away in our heads and we don't think of them till that date rolls around. for example one of my triggers is in april when we lost bradford racey. before entering the stess unit, the month of april would roll around an and the menories of racesy would creek into my head.not that i didn't think of racey at other times through out the year but during april it was more intence. i would become more depressed than normal an my anexnity level would increase. because of what the stress unit taught me about the nature of the beast.my stressers are still effected by certain date an other things but now i know whats happening an what i'll be going through during these times an handle my stressers better. its like walking down a sibdewalk and someone jumps out from the bushes an yells out boo. scares the sh*t out of you.but by knowing whats lieing in wait for you its easier to handle. your not alone in this. we are all effected with this. being taught the nature of the beast has helped me deal with life on its terms not mine. fred i hope this can help in some way.wink 3/69- 10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 08:41:34 (MST)

Fred, Mark, and all my other brothers: A little over a year ago, the subject of putting everything about the 129th AHC into a book came up here. I violated the cardinal rule of the military - NEVER volunteer!! lol But we aren't getting much younger and a lot of us wanted leave behind a record. Over the last year I have read everything I could find on the 129th. I've read all of your stories and poems (at least 3 times) - and laughed and cried and remembered. I gazed upon over 1,000 photos - and laughed and cried again. I talked to voices on the phone that hadn't been heard in over 37 years. Many times that book had to go "on the shelf" for weeks at a time while my brain and heart did some R&R. It has been a truly moving experience and I thank all of you for giving me the privilage of writing this account. There were many times when I reflected back to that war and asked myself "what was it all worth". And the answers were hard coming. We all know that we (the soldiers) did not lose that war - politicians did. There's an old saying in politics that "war is to important to leave it to Generals". Maybe that's why Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq went the way they did. And the soldiers feel betrayed. But there was always this: despite what the politics were, we fought with honor, with bravery, and with compassion. Many of our commrades fell. Why not us? I was asked this by someone on the phone. All I could say was that it was God's plan - not ours. Perhaps he/she needed some good warriors in Heaven, perhaps he had other plans for us. I'm not deeply religious in the traditional sense, but I have to put my faith in that. That there was another reason I came home and others didn't. But why? Well, I sat at my desk and looked around and saw the photos of my two sons in uniform. Maybe it was to be there to "coach" them. I saw my daughter and her two daughters and I saw my oldest son Matt. Maybe it was to be here to help them through the toughest of times. And I see my wife, Kat's photo. And then I remember the others: Fred's wife Susan, Mark's wife, Ray's wife, and all the other wives that we guys have been lucky enough to put up with us. What a blessing that two people can come together and share this life thru tough times and fun times. Maybe, when those dark moments of so long ago creep in for a visit, we can hang onto to those blessings and turn to them for comfort. We will never forget our fallen comrades just as we will never forget each other. To borrow from the General: We were young once....and soldiers. God bless you all and comfort you during the dark times. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 08:36:00 (MST)

WOW! Just watched the huey videos. That was great. To see daddy's name on the huey was just something. I bet to have seen it in person was well...... Thanks guys for going. Don't let the memories get you down, remember to live each moment for today not back then, all the guys who died wouldn't have wanted you to fill your lives with horrors of back then, they would have wanted to lived so live for them
Rhonda Jordan <jordanrh1941@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 08:28:39 (MST)

Wink I will be 2 persons Claudia and I will be going. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 05:17:23 (MST)

Now,the bad part of the trip.As I said once before,dreams have returned,disturbing,but not the horror ones.I find that ,for some reason,I have been on edge,even brooding about some of the things we put away in that dark place.I think my drinking has increased.Its been harder to fight the depression that sometimes appears.Work has almost no importance to me,except to show up on time,do my work, and draw my check.What I experinced a few weeks ago was wonderful,simply wonderful,and I wouldnt trade it for anything. I would do it again in a heart beat.I havent talked to Mark,but he seems to be a bit down also.I havent talked to Ron,but once,will do so tomorrow and find out "where his head is at".
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 19:20:22 (MST)

yep.sure did Paul.Went over with two great guys and we all three shared something very nice,and very personel ,in our different ways. I know where my mind and heart was when I saw that bird and where it went while flying in it.Every one of those guys names on the doors were sitting beside me,as well as you guys,and some no one knows, but me.I'm sure Larry was over there next to Mark,arm around his shoulder,giving him pointers and smiling his head off. Met and made some great new friends,really good people.I am sure if any one here showed up there,they would be met witn open arms and embraced as old friends.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 19:07:02 (MST)

fred got the pics thanks alot. gale; no can do on orlando don't have the vacation time,can't do the mini as i will be in canada fishing with boy scouts that week but will definately make kokomo. fred; looks like you guys had a hell of a time over there. couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 15:22:20 (MST)

HELLO TO ALL I DONT GET ON MUCG. BUT WE GOT PLANE TICKETS WE GET THERE MONDAY AFTERNOON. GOT HOTET REVS ALREADY .SO SEE YOUIN ORLANDO, BROTER ALWAYS I GUESS THE REST WILL BE IN MY CREATORS HANDS.TAKE CARE AND SEE YOU ALL THERE, NOT LONG TO GOM BE SAFE A BROTER ALWAYS RAY, BIL I HOPED THE PIC I SEND WERE SOME HELP. I DONT HAVE ANY PIC BEFOR NAM I GUESS. THE PIC WERE BEFOE I GOT HELP FROM THE 129th AN THE VA THANKS RAY
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 14:50:20 (MST)

Paul, you're not gonna try to make Orlando?......bummer! Ken, how 'bout you? Don't forget, we will be at Marks in Coldwater for a "mini" right after Orlando.Then Kokomo in Sept.
Gale
USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 09:39:31 (MST)

ok Paul. addy added. Pics sent you know and have met everyone in the photos. The guy with short hair and glasses in Phil.Simon is driving the jeep.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 09:30:44 (MST)

fred; addy is ida&(my first name) at yahoo
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 09:09:00 (MST)

Wink, We will be there with three, how much $$ do you need??
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 08:18:04 (MST)

Bill is that kinda like the first issue cover of "National Lampoon Magazine"? Buy this magazine or we will shoot this puppy.....LOL
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 07:49:04 (MST)

Paul..hi ya buddy. I went looking for your addy,couldnt find it. That stinking Taco Bell dog that Bill is holding must have gotten it.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 06:42:40 (MST)

OK FLIGHT: I didn't want to have to resort to this, but ya forced me!! If I dont get some more Before (Nam) and After (now) photos from more of you the Taco Bell dog gets it!!! Yes, that cute little critter is being held captive by the evil Crew Chief of #322. Come Feb 28th, if we don't receive more photos, the Chalupa Dog gets it!!!! So, show some compassion - send those photos ASAP!!! Don't make me ask again!!!!
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 20:29:07 (MST)

OK FLIGHT: I didn't want to have to resort to this, but ya forced me!! If I dont get some more Before (Nam) and After (now) photos from more of you the Taco Bell dog gets it!!! Yes, that cute little critter is being held captive by the evil Crew Chief of #322. Come Feb 28th, if we don't receive more photos, the Chalupa Dog gets it!!!! So, show some compassion - send those photos ASAP!!!
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 20:28:31 (MST)

OK FLIGHT: I didn't want to have to resort to this, but ya forced me!! If I dont get some more Before (Nam) and After photos from more of you the Taco Bell dog gets it!!! Yes, that cute little critter is being held captive by the evil Crew Chief of #322. Come Feb 28th, if we don't receive more photos, the Chalupa Dog gets it!!!! So, show some compassion - send those photos ASAP!!!
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 20:28:06 (MST)

Susan and I will be there Wink.
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 18:17:26 (MST)

fred; i would like to see some of those pics if possible.i believe you have my email from messenger if not let me know and i will post it ok. sure would like to see the shit grins you guys must have had. hello flight looking forward to kokomo.
paul mcgrath
oglesby , il USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 17:59:22 (MST)

Wink, Kat and I will be attending! Let us know if we can do or bring anything. Bill
Bill Wolf <`>
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 17:27:18 (MST)

Wink, I'll have 4 in my group. Iffen ya need $$ sent to ya.....let us know. Also, I'd be awfully careful considering any of Rick's offers....Heeheheeheh!!
Gale
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 09:38:40 (MST)

morning flight, rick very funny. but it was cold enough last night to have snowed. thanks for the offer at this time i'm not sure what anythings going to cost .i need a head count fristto decide wheather i'm going to have it at the pool or at my place.so everyone i need to know how many i can exspect.so flight let me know , so i can start making arrangements. rick i'm keep your offer in mind wink 3/69-- 10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 07:51:09 (MST)

ok Authur, pics on the way. Alvis in blue,Mark with boonie hat with beard,Ron Paye with boonie hat,no beard.
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 07:31:27 (MST)

Very eloquently put Jim, here,here... But sometimes I got question the Iraqi people.....Do they really want a democracy?... In Vietnam, it seemed like most of them were more worried about eating and staying dry. Civics always takes a back seat to necessity in that type of situation. You KNOW we are in your son`s corner Bill. Just as we are every Brother and Sister over there.
Fred Skaggs
Springfield, NJ USA - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 20:05:15 (MST)

Bill, I sure will & he has my family's support & prayers for some kind of decent end to this. You & your family certainly do more than your share for this country & the 129th !! My Thanks & respects, >>> Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 11:18:15 (MST)

Hi Alvis OK send them I like that Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA> USA - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 05:40:01 (MST)

art,if this was the the programe,I would. Its just, still pictures, which I am sending out as e mails.Be glad to email you it.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 03:53:51 (MST)

Hi Alvis coud you send me a cd Art 4716 youngs mill Rd. Hogansville GA. 30230
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA> USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 19:25:54 (MST)

Hi Gang, well, my son Bill (who some of you met in San Antonio) just graduated from Infantry school at Camp Pendleton (Marines). He just informed me tonight that he will be going to Iraq in two months. Have to admit I'm nervous. But now I know what my Mom must have gone thru. When I get his military email address I'll pass it along and maybe some of you can send him emails. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 18:39:56 (MST)

oh,there are 119 pictures on the CD
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 15:36:00 (MST)

ok guys. I have recieved a CD,full of "still" pictures.I believe I can send them as one file.The pics are good,done by a pro. Bill,do you want me to make a copy of this CD and mail to you, or will E-mail be ok? anyone else want an E-mail?
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 15:35:29 (MST)

Mark,I recieved a CD today from Phil. I suppose you did also,or will tomorrow.Phil put a letter to you,in the one I recieved. It says,,,,(6th February 2007) Dear Mark, I cant thank you enough for coming over and for the kind words you have put into the public domain on your website.( new paragraph) Please find the enclosed CD containing photos taken by Ken Ellis,the Editor of Fly past Magazine which were taken on the day you met 509. Ken,who you met that day,has said that you can use the photograps whenever you want,all he ask is that you credit them to flypast.com. ( new paragraph) By the time you recieve these potographs the programme for 'Inside out' will have been broadcast and hopefully Simon will smuggle out of the BBC the footage which you can use at your reunion. (new paragraph) Once again,from all the Huey crew,you are all welcome to come and vist us with your families at any time. Best Regards. Yours sincerely, Phil Connolly ...owner/pilot
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 15:30:38 (MST)

Hi Brother I got a album of CHRIS NOEL it called Forgotten Men she shing Forgotten Men 7 matter of survival whot room was the holiday in & hungry eyes when the better half get her sorft ware to make dvd if you want one I let you give to the Chrismas fun & I will send you one if that ok with the other Brother & Sister let me know Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 11:11:46 (MST)

Mark, I can understand you being down for a few days after your trip. I saw the video and the clip with you siting behind the gun. It must have been very moving to realize that was your brother's seat. To just sit there and see things from the view that was routine for him! He earned that seat. Glad you could share it with him. Gently, save me one of those posters. I will get the check in the mail next week. See you all soon in Orlando.
Dan Hertlein
USA - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 20:27:24 (MST)

Mark, those three guys at the very bottom, WO/1 McDaniel, Dave McCaslin and holding the weapon is Ron Ingermuson.....I don`t know about Mr.McDaniel, but Ron is a retired fireman from Portland,Oregan......And the last time I saw McCaslin, he was being marched off to LBJ, for attempted murder. Dave was one of the guys that tried to beat-up 2nd platoon Sgt. Meeks
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 13:39:37 (MST)

The youtube video of the INSIDE OUT program from England is now on the bottom of the 129th front page. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet. Thanks to our web master for getting it up so fast............always a brother............
Mark
USA - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 11:42:23 (MST)

Not to change the subject.....But on Viet-Nam Vets Memorial, Panel 10 East, Row 44....Fredrick Skaggs.....This is not like seeing "John Smith", I`m gonna try to find out more about the man........
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 20:41:27 (MST)

Gale,they have called a snow emergency for Avon.Almost couldnt make it home as they had stopped plowing 10th street.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 18:51:14 (MST)

Alvis, Mark,...Snow, sleet and more snow coming your way. Man, I'm tired of shovelin'............c'mon Orlando. Gently Gently, you are keeping our hopes up. :o))
Gale
USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 15:00:32 (MST)

Phew...poster requests are coming in beautifully. All I ask is that you email me at: Gentlyjs@yahoo.com. with your order. I'm unable to get to this site every day and I don't want to have you waiting for your posters any longer than you have to. Don, please email me. Also, please include your address in the emails. Checks or MO's should be made out to "129th AHC." Love to all-Gently(Don't worry Gale.....:>)) HE HE.
Gently
USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 09:10:07 (MST)

Hi Gang, been AWOL for a couple of days. Sunk into a hole for a spell after the trip but found my boot straps now. I ask the web master to insert the Youtube video of the show Inside Out as it appeared on the BBC last Friday like he did the one attached to the 509 link and the bottom of our front page. Hope to see it there soon. We are snowed in at the cabin for a couple of days. Fred and Ron blow all the snow from Indy over this way;-)........take care all..........always a brother..............
Mark
USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 08:39:40 (MST)

Well, I'm on the road again! Gonna be in California this week teaching. IF YOU HAVEN'T SENT ME A BEFORE (NAM) AND NOW PICTURE for the book, please do so!! Alvis, I still need to get in touch with you - will try to reach you next week when I return. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, February 13, 2007 at 08:25:05 (MST)

evening all, I just saw the video and it was GREAT. Alvis I would love to have a copy of the un-cut version if possible. Gently ....... put me down for 2 posters please. also to the winner of the bracelet did you get it ? call me @ 5209042020 and let me know. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 22:34:48 (MST)

Gently, I'd like to purchase two posters.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 14:33:22 (MST)

Gently, "probably"?? That means there is still a chance!! You're gonna miss Winks party............sure hope you can make it. Gale
Gale
USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 14:16:37 (MST)

Dear all, one of the 129 pilots whom many of you know, sent me about 100 11x17 posters for the 129th: there is the 129th patch in the center and the trim of the poster is the Vietnam Ribbon. There are two hueys on the bottom. They're very very nice, on thick poster paper and could be framed. I'll be selling them for $5.00 each which will include postage. All the money raised will go the the Christmas fund. Email if you're interested: gentlyjs@yahoo.com. I probably won't make the re-union in Florida....so Gale.... you're on your own. But I promise to cause extra trouble for you at Kokomo in September! :>))))) Promise! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 12:08:20 (MST)

Hi Flight, well wanted to let you all know it is my turn to have computer problems as my Lap Top is in the hands of the Geek Squad which worries me to death. It is amazing that you can set there and know your whole life is tied to one computer and it's hard drive. Have had a lot of stress right now and don't need to loose everything for the past ten years. Also Bill, I have e-mailed Mr Hendrex, Lt Jeanes and Lt Lackey again about the book but not heard back. All take care..
Ken Strong
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 12:01:24 (MST)

Fred Alvis, need ya to give me a call today if possible (719.380.9653). Need some info on the 129th incorporation. Thanks. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 09:52:03 (MST)

BOOK UPDATE: The book is now up to 288 pages and is likely to be 300+ when done. I want to thank all of you who have contributed to it - it is really YOUR book! Fortunately, Bill Whelan owns a printing company and has agreed to print it for us at a great rate! Bill - you're a life saver! One new addition to the book is the inclusion of a cdrom which contains over 590 photos in both individual files and in a video. I am looking at printing 200 copies to start. Please know that ALL proceeds (after the cost of printing and mailing) go to the 129th Christmas fund. FEBRUARY 28TH IS THE CUT OFF FOR ALL SUBMISSIONS. At that point, I'll do the final formatting and send it off the Bill Whelan for printing. I'm confident that you will all be happy with the final result! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 09:35:56 (MST)

The VHCMA web site has been down to server problems. But, this includes heli-vets along with other vietnam websites. I keyed in VHCMA. Org and It gave alist of the web sites down. The server was just replaced recently. I talked to Chris White a few weeks ago. And, they had the web site up and going again. But, was down when I just checked it. I had the site saves as favorites. but, had to cancel and redo to get in. Fred Alvis, been having problems emailing Phil with the history update. Just try to send again. Taking a few days off to get my knee some needed therapy. Going to east Tenn. with Liz. We will be in Johnson City one afternoon. Always A Brother!!
Bill
USA - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 06:59:35 (MST)

Bill,they are supposed to mail me a copy of the show and a complete uncut version with all the footage,both on CDs.If that happens,you will certianly be high on the list to get a copy.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 20:41:51 (MST)

BTW, the vhcma.org site seems to be "down" more than it is "up and running".
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 10:56:16 (MST)

Gale, you can download the VHCMA Reunion reservation form from their website now: www.vhcma.org. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 10:53:57 (MST)

Fred, we have been getting our share of snow, cold, and wind here but I'm south of Lake Ontario. The folks on the east of the lake Mexico, Oswego, Fulton have gotten 11 feet or so in the last week. I've got a few feet on the ground and some big snow piles, but wouldn't wnat to be dealing with 11 feet or more. It was so cold here when we had 25 to 30 mph winds last week that I had a hard time keeping the house warm with the wood stove going full blast. And yet the snowmobiles are going up and down my road like there's a sale on somewhere. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 10:43:17 (MST)

Bill, you are too much man! Do you ever stop? I think I can speak for all the flight................."Thanks for all that you do!" I know that Thad Czuba has (had) some movie film from 67-68, but, I could never get him off his a** to do anything with them. He did show them to me when I visited him 'bout 30 years ago. I'll contact him and try again. Hey Alex, what's the latest on the reservation forms from VHCMA??????
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 10:23:47 (MST)

Fred, I did see myself in the group photo. That was really a nice piece the BBC did - I'd love to get a clean copy to include in my 129th video collection!! Which remindes me: ATTENTION ON DECK: I AM TRYING TO GET COPIES OF ANY MOVIE CLIPS ANY ONE HAS FROM THE 129TH. I'd like to get them from you on CD or DVD. If you don't have the ability to copy them to CD or dvd I can do that for you. I want to make a new 129th movie to show at the reunion along with the other videos I've made. I'll try to bring enough copies of all the videos for everyone attending. Contact me if you have movies!!! Thanks. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 10:12:35 (MST)

Robbie,been seeing on the news that you guys have a little snow up your way.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 09:16:42 (MST)

Fred A. Sorry I didn't get right back to you. Went to Elmira for my oldest Grand daughter's birthday. She's 10 now. She's making me feel old. Anyway, Yes the 509 looked great. I can only imagine you guys were bustin when you were near or on her. Hope everyone else is doing good. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 07:52:23 (MST)

did you see yourself in the pics Bill?
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 07:07:29 (MST)

Fred, Mark, and Ron - just watched the BBC video. You guys must have been bawling like babies cause Kat and I were both flooded with tears just watching the video!! What a great experience!!!
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 19:23:59 (MST)

just a quick note...The 509 is named "MISS JO",after Phils beautiful and gracious wife.Secondly, when Phil does the air shows with 509,they collect charity donations for disadvantaged kids.How cool is that? From a weapon of war to a weapon of love.
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 14:53:05 (MST)

Alvis.....has anyone asked the CAA just who they need a letter from??? ( I know, a preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with. :>)) ) My research through the AOPA has yielded that question. If we could get that question answered, we'd be able to point the poiticians to one agency and maybe be able to put this to bed....Has Phil reinforced the hard points to accept 'Ma Deuce'? As I recall, the recoil on those things made for a lot of broken mounts. Thanks for the photo's, and the lead to u tube.
Kim
USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 12:10:56 (MST)

Well, I've sent letters to my Congressman, General Brown, and even - believe it or not - to Tony Blair (Prime Minister)(never hurts to go straight to the top). Of course, I'm not holding my breath for a response from my Congressman or Blair. Wink, I think you have a good idea about inviting General Brown. I'll get off a second letter to him asap about the reunion! (Of course we'll be standing at attention to whole event!!! lol).Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 10:38:30 (MST)

Fred, thanks for sending the link. I watched it several times & it looked like you guys had a great time & you certainly represented the 129th well>>>>Thanks>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 10:36:13 (MST)

great letter bill.i was thinking that maybe we should invite general brown to the reunion. mcdill is in tampa an a little over an hour to the hotel. also bill if you need a go between with the general i'm only a hour or so away from mcdill. wink 3/69-- 10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 07:43:35 (MST)

Hi FLITE 509 look like a out standing LADY up in wiled blue & the guy they I know they hated to leav her to come home I know I would have & I say THANK TO ALVIS MARK & RON for for just having don what all of would have like to be in there place over there & I say THANK TO THEM FOR WHAT they Done FOR US & THEY GUY THAT HER CREW & THE GUY THAT NAMES THAT ARE ON HER THEY BE WITH HER FOR EVERY FLIGHT SHE MAKES THANK ALVIS MARK & RON SEE YOU IN Orlando Art & Glender
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA> USA - Saturday, February 10, 2007 at 06:22:09 (MST)

Bill, a few of the photos from your CD were shown as well.Thats just so cool..watching a 129th bird fly again.As Ron Paye said "It will take you back to when you were young again".
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 20:01:25 (MST)

you boys wanna see Ron Paye fly a Huey? Most of the BBC program is here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m7YRFxTO2o&mode=user&search=
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 19:49:30 (MST)

shes beautiful,aint she Robbie?
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 19:29:55 (MST)

Well, I got to see about a 3 to 4 minute tape on the BBC tonight. I think it was probably the bit they are planning on having on BBC1 at 7:30. Got to see the 509 and phil and Fred,Mark, and Ron. I was lucky enough to get a cd in and record it. Hope everyone is doing good. That 129th sticker never looked so good. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 18:18:38 (MST)

To take a leaf out your book Fred......Go bulldogs Go!! Thank you to you all for all your efforts they are very much appreciated. We've had a good response to the item about Fred, Ron and Mark's visit. It was broadcast today on the BBC's News 24 and locally in the North West. You will find a copy of it on youtube very soon. Just look for Huey 509 and it will appear along with the other two. It was fed to the ABC offices in London this afternoon and the woman dealing with the intake of it e-mailed me after she had watched it coming in and said that it was fabulous and it had had her in tears. Powerfull stuff. So fingers crossed it will be broadcast on ABC in the near future. She has an idea of which programmes might run with the story but offhand I can't remeber which. so as soon as I know something you will aswell. There is a good chance that they will want to talk to one or all three of you about the trip. Once again I thank you for sharing the experience with us. Take care, Simon.
Simon johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, Lancs UK - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:38:33 (MST)

The folks that need the "letter" are the "CAA", they are the UK's version of our FAA.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:12:24 (MST)

Dave, same here with my senators...next, am going to knock on their office doors.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:09:22 (MST)

excellent work Bill, that just might be the thing. When generals talk,folks listen.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:08:05 (MST)

sounds great Kal...maybe you will "be the man",chuckle. Yours sounds the most promising so far. arrgggg,,hate red tape.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:06:35 (MST)

Thanks guys,the more folks trying,the better the odds someone will get lucky. Today my vists were,in order, Congresswoman Julie Carson (almost threw me out of the office), the "world headquarters of the American legion"..(thanks for stopping by,dont let the door hit you in the behind on the way out) and a VA benefits office at the Federal building. They were the most help,but no help either.iF you cant get a congressman (they have districts) go for a senator ..they are state wide and I believe,carry alittle more weight. Next day off,I will try another congressmans office and will vist the 2 senators offices here. Sugestions were to try DOD and also Dept of the Army. FAA is a civilian dept,so thats out. Everyones says contact someone else,but they dont know who. Fellas,we aint called bulldogs for nothing.We aint finished yet. Wonder if I contacted the news paper if they would have any interest. Oh, I am going to follow up on the American Legion part of this. I am trying to interest them in doing a story on the 509 in their magazine. maybe you ,members can help in that,,,write a letter.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 16:01:59 (MST)

Fred... Just got back from my Congressman's office.. They need more info than I have to give them. Having read the posted statement don't tell me from whom they need the permission. I would bet they are looking for someone higher up the tree than a bunch of guys that just because they were in the 129th say it is OK. I recieved and filled out a permisson sheet that allows the DOD to check me out in reguards to getting more info on this. About all I can see us doing as a bunch of 129th ers is designate a spokes person and somehow authorising him to OK our part of it. I don't know who would be doing the government authorising as I bet they aren't going to take our word for it. It looks like Phil has been doing what he needs to do and now we have to figgure out from who and what we need to follow up from this end. My congressman will be waiting for more info and sounds happy to be able to help out. Later.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 13:03:34 (MST)

Alex, do you want me to send you the history portion of the book? If so, give me you email address. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 12:58:17 (MST)

Flight: Well trying to catch up. Been working 55 to 60 hour weeks. Bill will try and get the book to you this week. And have to get the history for Phil done this weekend. The job has put, me behind on everything. It's good to see some of my 129th Brothers whom I flew with. That would be Truman Mills and Wayne Brown. The are more I need to contact. Glad to see everyone is making plans for Orlando. Can't think of a better way to turn over the President of the VHCMA to Charlie Rains with a recond turn out of the 129th. The Dark Hose of the Cav. Has 100 already attending this year. Always A Brother!!
Alex
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 12:56:05 (MST)

Fred (and all) - I tracked down General Brown and got his snail mail address. He is now the Commander of the US Special Operations Command at MacDill Air Force Base. I am sending him a letter soliciting his support. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 12:37:05 (MST)

In regard to the 509's colors, about three weeks ago I sent letters to BOTH of our Colorado senators, and to date have received no response. So much for representation, eh? Guess I should've put a $100 bill in the envelope.
Dave
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 12:22:48 (MST)

Fred, Lt. General Bryan "Doug" Brown used to be a 129th'er in Vietnam. I believe he is now the Commander of the US Special Operations Command. I will try to get his address and contact him. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 12:14:45 (MST)

HELLO TO ALL, CANT WAAIT TO GO ORLADO, GOINGING TO MY BEST TO MAKE IT, I HAVE MANY TEST TO GO THREW.THE2 DR SID TO TAKE IT SERIUS. MY DR MADE ME AN APPT WITH AN HEMOTILOHIST A BLOOD AND CANSER DR HE TAKEING ME WEND SO WE SEE.HOW ARE SOME OF YOUTAKE ING ALL THAT SNW. WE ARE GOING TO GET ABOUT 2 INCHES I DREAD THAT, I DONT HOW HOW YOU CAN TAKE IT. JUST BE SAFE, ALEX WHEN CAN REREGEST TO GO,THE FORM WE FILL OUT.IF BYCHANCE I CANT GO CAN GAIL GO WITH MY DUGHTER OR BY HE SELF I WANT HER TO GO. WE SEE AS TIE PASSES US BY WELL TAKE CARE I DO MY BEST TO BE THERE I WANT TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN. WELL TAKE CARE A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY. I LET YOU KNOW WHAT GOING ON BE SAFE STAY WELL YOU ALL MEAM ALOT T ME
RAY
MD USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 11:55:19 (MST)

Here is a copy of the text from the letter to my Congressman: Did you know that 10% of all casualties in the Vietnam War were helicopter crewmembers? Combat correspondent Joe Galloway (portrayed in the movie "We Were Soldiers") called the huey helicopter crews "God's Own Lunatics" as a term of respect and admiration. And, like so many Vietnam returnees, we were spit upon and dishonored by the country that sent us to battle. I served with the 129th Assault Helicopter Company in Vietnam from 1969 to 1970. I was one of the fortunate ones that came home in one piece at least physically. I went on to have a 27 year career with the San Diego Police Department and now have one son serving in the US Army and another son serving in the US Marine Corps. I have given a lifetime of service to my country and raised my sons to do likewise. I now have a simple request of my country and yourself as my country's representative. Phil Connolly of Lancashire, England has purchased and restored one of the Huey helicopters that flew with the 129th Assault Helicopter Company in Vietnam. It has been faithfully restored as it appeared when it flew combat missions in our helicopter company. This month, several of our members were flown to England by the BBC to participate in a documentary film about this aircraft. To say that it was an emotional event for these combat Vietnam Vets would be an understatement. It was truly a step back in time and a great tribute to those of our Company who did not return thirty-nine of them. I have attached a photo of the aircraft. Now, England's Civil Aviation Authority wants Mr. Connolly to remove the "US Army" markings from the aircraft. Military markings on civilian owned aircraft are not unusual. You have only to look at the markings on planes that belong to the Confederate Air Force (http://www.arizonawingcaf.com) to see civilian planes with military insignias as well as military titles such as "US Navy". These are meant to honor and remember those who flew those aircraft in battle. As you can see by the attached letter, the Royal Air Force has no objection to the markings. How can you help? Despite a lifetime of service to this country, my voice to Washington would likely fall on deaf ears. So I turn to you, my representative, to provide a letter of support to Mr. Connelly as did England's Royal Air Force. I realize that in the scope of dealing with a new budget, the Iraq war, immigration, and the other high-profile issues you are handling that this may seem insignificant. But, please realize that it is a matter of pride for all of us who have served this country and to those who gave the last full measure of life for it. I can't imagine that the citizens of England would think that the "US Army" has invaded their country with a single Huey helicopter! Please feel free to contact me for any additional information or questions. I have also included the contact information for Phil Connelly as well as England's Civil Aviation Authority.
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 10:47:12 (MST)

Isnt there a General that used to be a 129th pilot? A written word from him would also be wonderful.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 10:33:11 (MST)

Bill,the CCA ( the counter point of our FAA) says without our permission (some authority in the usa),Phil cannot fly military marking and MUST display civilian marking(numbers) of the tailboom and cargo doors. I have seen these marking.Phil applys a decal of sorts when he flys,then removed them after landing,so it looks like a 129th bird again sitting on our flight line.It truely ugly and just wrecks the whole idea.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 10:30:54 (MST)

I have here a copy of a letter sent to Phil,in reply to, a letter sent from him,about the marking.Its about " MILITARY MARKING ON CIVIL OWNED AIRCRAFT".Its from,Mis Claire Ling, RAF Participation Committee Secetariat,Hwadquartera Strike Command,Royal Air Force High Wycombe,Buckinghamshire HP14 4UE. First page says basically " I am pleased to inform you that the Royal Air Force has no objections to granting your request,subject to the attached conditions being fulfilled".2nd page and now the problem..WE need people of importance to state its fine with us with what Phil has done with the aircraft. 2nd page..A. The application to carry military marking must be submitted by the legal owner of their aircraft. A copy of the certificate of Ownership must be attached to the application form at the time of submission. ( Phil has done this). B.The aircraft must be maintained to a high standard.(509 is in better shape than anything I flew on in Nam) C.The marking shown be historically accurate.No non-authenic marking or logos are to be displayed. D. The aircraft must not be flown in any manner which may cause criticism of the Royal Air Force.E.If the aircraft is sold at any time,the new owner must re-apply for permission to carry military marking.F.UK Residents .. The aircraft may only be flown within the airspace of Great Britain. Non UK Residents.. The aircraft may only be flown within the airspace of the country in which the applicant is a resident when permission is granted, or within the airspace of the country stated at paragraph 12 of the application form. G. if the applicant moves to another country and wishes to retain military marking, permission is not transferable, and the applicant must reapply. FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH ANY OF THE ABOVE CONDITIONS WILL NORMALLY RESULT IN THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY MILITA WITHDRAWN. Thats it. What Phil has told us/me is that he needs permission,or no objections,from us and someone in the powers that be,thats its ok for him to fly our colors/marking. The ONLY thing/marking on that bird,that isnt of the 129th,is the names of our KIAs painted on each cargo door.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 10:24:24 (MST)

Regarding 509 - can one of you who went over to see her, please email me a couple photos of the ship to include in my letter to my Congressman? And, like Kal asked, who is it that wants the lettering removed? Thanks. Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 09:43:23 (MST)

Fred Alvis... I need more info.. What English government sector needs to recieve just what OK from what branch of our government? I would be glad to stop by my Congressman's office with the request. Names, departments, ect would probably help a lot. Would also probably need the owners name, address, and or other pertanant info too. Let me know and I will get right to it.. Thanks... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 09:40:08 (MST)

Fred, I am sending a letter to my Congressman to try and keep 509 as is.
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 08:41:21 (MST)

roger that Ken....
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 21:41:08 (MST)

Alvis, that sounds good to me, you guys give me an idea when.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 20:22:25 (MST)

Raineer,we still need a Mini..breakfst or lunch,with the local 129th ers. Ron.Gale and Ken are up for it.Mark to ,maybe.Let me check my work thingy and lets do it this month.
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 18:17:20 (MST)

HI Simon. guys,we still need to find a way for Phil to keep the "US ARMY" marking on 509.Most of you have seen what she looks like now...like she is still on out flight line. It would be a shame if Phil was made to remove the marking. Come on,someone has to know someone that can pull the strings. A simple letter is all he needs...one that says its OK with us and the government for 509 to remain under unit colors. Now is the time to step up to the plate.
Alvis
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 18:13:33 (MST)

Yes Gale,My family is from around the Smokies.Plan on making two stops in Tennessee to vist family members. I want to stop in Columbus Georgia (Ft, Benning) to vist my Dads grave.Only have 2 family members in florida..one by Cape Canaveral(favorite Aunt) and one near lake george (mom).Not going to bust my buns getting there but not poking along either.We will be staying in the guest house of my Aunt Jamie,near Cape C.Its 55 minutes from orlando airport. I am tring to get her hubby, Greg Hanson, to come . He is the one that stayed at Hanio Hilton.
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 18:06:53 (MST)

The doctor cleared me for another 6 months so I made flight and room reservations. Will arrive Sunday with wife and one grandson in tow.
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 14:22:27 (MST)

Just thought you might be interested that if you can get BBC News 24 on satelite then on their breakfast programme tomorrow am (from 6 am UK time) they will be showing a shortened version of the film about Fred, Ron and Mark's visit to see 509. Keep you eyes open on youtube aswell. The longer version 9 minutes 30 seconds or so (that we have edited for our local output here in the northwest of England), we're arranging to send to ABC for them to broadcast. I have no control over if or when they would transmit it. If I have any more info on that I'll let you know. We're waiting for the snow to arrive here in Lancashire, not much so far. Bye for now and keep warm. Simon.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, Lancs UK - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 11:27:03 (MST)

Kat and I are also driving (from Colorado Springs). Gonna stop on the way for a wedding of our niece and plan to arrive in Orlando on Wed. Can't wait to see you all again! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 09:41:40 (MST)

Freddy S. Read your post re: BBC. I too watched and listened during my 15 years in Europe. You hit the nail on the head. To bad our news people arn't like that instead of sensationalism chasing the advertising buck.
Jeff Sauers
Lake Norman, NC USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 08:10:11 (MST)

Looks like we are driving down too. Plan on getting there Tuesday and taking the Grand daughter to Epicot and a few other things like Sea World ect.. Only am planning on one "stop by on your way" stop and that will probably only be a "meet up for dinner" type thingy in southern Georgia. I won't be in any big hurry and if I see something to stop for that will be the name of the game. As far as the route, looks like I-65 to I-24 to I-75 ought to get me pretty close. Hey Ken Strong... U going to make this one? J.W., good to see you are still reading and posting too.. U going to make it? It has been a few years and sure would be nice seeing you again. Take care brothers.... C U L8r... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 07:55:50 (MST)

Alvis, I thought that most of your family lived in/around the Smokies!? Sounds like a good trip. I wish they would get the forms to us. Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 07:48:55 (MST)

Gale,thinking of same arrivial date.Questioning thoughts on taking Susan to Cape Canaveral first.have an aunt that lives just around the corner from there so can kill two birds with one stone,sorta speak..Mom lives 45 minutes from Orlando so its going to turn into a family affair for us,I do believe.
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 07:09:25 (MST)

Alvis, there will be four in our car driving down. Plan on getting there on Wed and spending Thur at Epcot. Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 21:44:32 (MST)

ok, i have decided to drive to orlando this year. I want Susan to see some of the country and want to make a couple of stops along the way. Anyone else driving/riding?
alvis
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 21:12:24 (MST)

spring? its 10 here with 5 1/2 inches of snow. high this week is 15 with lows around 0. brrrr..come on spring
alvis
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 21:10:47 (MST)

Hey Rainer.. Good to see you post!!!.. Hows the pumper doing? Hope you and Dee are well and hope to be seeing you in Orlando!!.. Boy, I remember back in 67 and early 68 B4 we got the new "H" models how loosing rotor RPM was an all the time thing. I believe thats where we got good at nursing those things off the ground. The "H" models came along and it was like a whole new ballgame.. Just pull pitch and away you went. Heck, I came out of Qui Nhon once with a new H model with 17 packs on board... Did have to nurse it up but only to keep from pulling too much torque. The 17 packs were Korean and Vietnamese troops, so pretty light weight.. Funny how those memories come flooding back at times...Looked at the pixs of the 509 restoration work and Geez, I bet he could have bought a brand new Huey a couple times over for what it must have cost to get 509 going again. Pretty impressive!!.. It looked like 'ol 509 wasn't too far from scrapyard when she was "saved", then again I must say that it looked like she was already there. Sure looks good now. Hey, spring has sprung here.. Sunshine all day and it made it out of the single digits with out snowing... Think Orlando!!!... B Cn Ya.. Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68 <n8auu (a) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 20:39:44 (MST)

Thanks Rainer that event has been a nightmare for 40 yrs.when we came into the side of the mountain and was steadly loosing rpm and the guys started jumping i don,t know how high off the ground we were but i feel like i should have got my jump wings. thank you truman
truman <trumil@bellsouth.net>
Moss Point, ms USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 20:02:31 (MST)

Hey Flight, I need a vietnam foto of the following folks: Ron Debates, Alton Page, Joe Alvarado, Larry Kwiatkowsk, Darwin Schmiedt, Larry Lackey, Tom Shanahan, and Pete Nolan. I need a current photo of Art Foster. IF YOU HAVEN'T SENT ME A "BEFORE-AND-AFTER" photo, please do so ASAP - it will be your last chance to be included in the 129th Book!!! Don't be left out!!! Email photos to me at: VNHeloReunion@aol.com - if there are other people in the foto with you, identify which is you! Thanks. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 13:48:43 (MST)

hi flight, thankyou Robbie for pictures
J. W. Wilson
Kinston , NC USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 10:23:02 (MST)

BOOK UPDATE: Hey Flight, the book development is rapidly coming to an end!! It's been over a year in the development, but I think you will be pleased and proud of the final result. I was sweating the cost of publishing, but the Lone Ranger came to the rescue!! Bill Whelan (129th'er) owns a printing company and is giving us a great break on the cost!! We are going to have an initial printing of 200 copies. I'm hoping to go to print in March. That means I need any last photos, stories, now-and-then photos or any other contributions sent to me by February 23rd - that will be the cut-off date for editing!! When the books are ready, I will post a notice here and also via emails. I will keep you all posted. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 09:43:36 (MST)

Mark,recieved an e-mail today,,the CD is on the way.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 06:17:31 (MST)

Mark, go to the 509 site and click on huey going to be on TV. Also .click on welcome a few times and you will get a few different pics of us..wow,what a surprise.There is an excellent pic of Ron Paye getting ready to fly the 509,one of me firing the gun(with you beside me) and us 3 standing in front of the nose . Also you two on the engine deck with me fixing to climb aboard.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 19:05:50 (MST)

gale,I was at work during the entire storm..sold a jillion snow throwers..and brother,was it a slow drive home.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 18:44:54 (MST)

Fred A. got the pics and have been looking at them thanks alot. Takes awhile for my puter to paste em on the screen. Fred S. I also watch a lot of BBC news. I usually watch that at 6pm when our local news is on. I agree with you it seems that they report the news as it is no matter what, where our world news won't do that. Ray, how ya doing Brother.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 14:15:04 (MST)

Alvis, gittin' any snow over your way? We have 4 inches and it's still comin' down pretty good.
Gale
USA - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 12:07:41 (MST)

Freddy, that they were.Dont know about the political view held by any of them,but they treated us with dignity,compassion and fairness.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 07:11:12 (MST)

It`s amazing Fred A. that alot of folks say the BBC is dominated by a culture of liberal partiality....But I would see them as being considerate and concerned about your feelings. I watch BBC News alot up here in Jersey and when I was living in Europe.....I don`t see them as "bias" as I see them being "brutality honest" about reporting the news.
Fred Skaggs
Somewhere In, NJ USA - Monday, February 05, 2007 at 20:18:22 (MST)

Hi guy well Glenda told me she had dream that she was in NAM & fighting the bad guy & a funny thing when I was in a va nut ward for six month the DOC asked if your wife would dreams about NAM & the DOC seed that wife can get PTSD from hearing your dreams & I told him OK WRIGHT & the wife told me itnot the first it ben a some & now I think so & I just think back when I would jump up in bead night & be soaking wet so it just as hard on them as it is you & one more thing the guy that have wife they are special WIFE to stay with you & it the same no mater if it the first or the sixth one or more & he told me that you nead HER help well that it BUT GLENDA IS MY SOURSE OF HELP WHEN YOU NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON & I STILL DO AT TIME & I WILL LOVE HERE FOR IT ART
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA> USA - Monday, February 05, 2007 at 19:33:49 (MST)

When we were talking to the BBC crew ,the subject of flashbacks came up and their worry it might happen. While the sound of the rotor baldes, wacking the air, echoed thru the mist of time,there wasnt any problems. However,for some strange reason,since i have been back,war dreams have returned. Not "THE" dream,the one that scares the hell out of me,but different war/combat dreams. While not scary,its a bit disturbing as well as a puzzlement.Was it worth it? hell yes.
alvis
USA - Monday, February 05, 2007 at 18:55:41 (MST)

Congratulation Colts. Well deserved. :-) Hey Bernie. I wrote down "your" phone number.so call me w/ the right one. Bill Shilleto , Where are you?
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Monday, February 05, 2007 at 11:46:11 (MST)

yesssssssssss
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 20:12:58 (MST)

Robbie, i just sent you 97 pics.sorry the thing is so big,buts its only 1/3 of the pics. Some are by me and some by Simon.Mark has lots of pics as well,heck,maybe even more than me.Oh,the one is a Nazi sub they brought back up. Its across the mersey river from where the beatles got there start in Liverpool.Yes,we went there to.got the pics to prove it.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 15:55:56 (MST)

Mark, I just tried to send you an email and it came back undeliverable. Are you not 44atadelphia.net? Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 15:23:44 (MST)

Hi Alvis the photo were out standing I got some that I going to send Mark & going to see it I can get my supper 8 movies on dvd & bring them to Orlando hope but if not I will send you them ok& eany one that wants one well got to go take it eazy Brothers Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA> USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 09:28:49 (MST)

Truman, if you are talking about the time we were taking supplies up to the top for the relay station and the gunner jumped out and walked up because he didn't think we would make it, you were with me, not sure who the pilots were
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 08:26:08 (MST)

Bill, the last names,spelled corectly,can be found on the 509 site,under "team".
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 07:00:56 (MST)

hi ya Mark. Hey,I looked into the generator we talked about. It does come with all the hook ups. They sugest it be placed on a concrete pad.It kicks on automaticaly in the event of a power failure.Its air cooled.Cant remember if it can be delevered to your house or not,but can find out.
alvis
USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 06:57:23 (MST)

Mornin' Flight
Mark
USA - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 03:46:45 (MST)

Go COLTS
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 22:10:41 (MST)

Hey Welcome Home Wayne Brown! Glad you found your friends. Now, you ought to look into attendine one of the upcoming reunions that a lot of 129th ers use to rekindle and extend our great brotherhood. We will be getting together at the VHCMA reunion in June in Orlando, FL this year. A short time after that we will be converging on Marks place in Celina, Ohio for a smaller 129th reunion. Twards the end of September a bunch of us get together at a Veterans reunion weekend near Kokomo, Indiana. All of these get-togethers are great and a good way to catch up on things and see the people you have "been there, done that" with.... Anyway, great to see you post and just jump in here any time. It is a great place to unload or reload when you feel the need. Once again, welcome aboard.. Kal..67/68...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (a) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 21:51:21 (MST)

This is my new e-mail. I no longer have Aol. I,m looking for the crew chief that was with me when i jumped out with 101st on candy rock mountain
Truman Mills <trumil54@bellsouth.net>
Moss Point, MS. USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 17:53:07 (MST)

Thanks for the offer, Gale. I can front the initial printing cost and will get paid back from the sales. The profits go to the 129th. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 15:55:23 (MST)

Sorry guys the link no longer works as I have uploaded a better quality version so Fred's link won't work, this one will work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZolrYbU1VTo Good luck Simon
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@taltalk.net>
Mellor, Lancs UK - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 12:12:01 (MST)

Bill, iffin' you need some donations to help you offset your "out of pocket", please let us know.............Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 11:15:21 (MST)

BOOK UPDATE: The book is rapidly approaching the "Final Draft" stage!!! It will end up at just about 300 pages. I want to thank all who helped review and to all who submitted stories, photos, and history information. I am shooting for mid-February as the "Final" draft date. If you haven't sent me your "Before(Nam) and After(Now)" photos, please do so ASAP!!! If you have any other submissions, please send asap (if they are photos, please indicate names, locations, etc). I am in the process of getting quotes from a wide range of printers. It appears at this point that we will have to charge about $35 per book. I was hoping to keep the cost a little lower, but because we are printing only 100-200 to start with and because of the photos, the costs are a bit higher. It will be a regular "book" like you would buy at a book store - nice binding, full color cover. I think you will be proud of it. As soon as we are ready to distribute, I will let everyone know. We will also bring copies to the VHCMA reunion!!! Bill
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 10:22:41 (MST)

Fred, could you pick 3-4 photos for the book and email them to me. Also include in the email a description of each (names, locations, etc). Thanks.
Bill Wolf <VNHeloReunion@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 10:14:27 (MST)

Just wanted to thank Alex Fernwalt and Chon Gutierrez for their leads on finding my two buddies, Truman Mills and David L. Gilstrap...I talked with both of them on the phone yesterday...it's been 40 years! This website has been instrumental in helping me to reconnect and piece together a year of my life that has more meaning than I ever knew...I appreciate my son, Zach, for encouraging me to look for my old buddies and to talk about Nam. God Bless all of you! Wayne Brown (Feb 66-67)
Wayne E. Brown <sonielikeasong@valornet.com>
Hominy, Okla USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 09:24:04 (MST)

Alvis, great, great, great................I think I need a beer!
Gale 67-68
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 09:03:14 (MST)

found it. Warning,this may bring tears to an old dogs eyes.It the story of Phil and the 509.with some great shots from vietnam (other birds) and music. Its shot and narreated (sp)(explained by) Simon Johnson,the BBC camera man ,who befriended Mark,Ron and I. its a great piece of work...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k08MUFDOVxo&mode=user&search=
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 07:48:08 (MST)

Simon has just posted a short film segment on " youtube". I am searching for it now,but in the meantime,here is one of the 509. Phil is wearing the Army Flight helmet,Ralph,the yellow one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5P3a7FMSzA
alvis
USA - Saturday, February 03, 2007 at 07:26:32 (MST)

Art, I jsut tried to send out the first bunch of pics by email..please tell me if they arrive.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 21:38:29 (MST)

Dennis, sorry man...I forgot that you were in that area also. Glad you are ok. Looks like quite a mess.
Gale
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 11:39:18 (MST)

Hi Alvis coud you lit me know what it would caust to get a cd with them on it Art & the wife geting a program to put them on advd & if some one like it & she can put it on acd I send eany one that wants one ok
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 10:19:37 (MST)

ut oh. I have just downloaded the CD(2) pic to my PC, so i can E-mail them.The ut oh is cause there are about 380 pictures.Thats not the kind of E-mail someone wants to get.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 09:32:13 (MST)

Hey guys! We got missed by it all, went into Lake & Volusia Counties which are north and East of where Barry and I live Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 09:30:41 (MST)

Kal, Bradly Johnson,the BBC camera mans son,has operating short wave radios out of the old ww2 Lancaster bomber,plus a few others,in his room.He listens in many nights.Thought of you and wondered if perhaps you might have a bit of fun talking to him.
alvis
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 09:12:36 (MST)

WOW!!!.. Youtube has some pretty good Huey vidios. I think I watched all of them, couldn't stop, and am ready to go back...Ha.. At least I got mt shot for the day, week.... L8r... Kal...>>>
Kal 67/68
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 09:00:59 (MST)

morning flight, yep i'm ok. like any good veitnam vet i selpt right throw it.north of me got hit bad with tornados. alot of damages, orlando area. thaks for asking gale. i think you kewn what was going on here before i did. hhhhheeeeee. mark i was gald to read that you guys asked phil to the reunion, but only if 509 comes with him. heeeeeeee.that would be great ang he dose a fly over would be at the party at my place on friday, only dreaming. wink 3/69- 10/70
wink
lake wales fl, USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 08:25:44 (MST)

Gale...numbers I have for Barry are HOME> 863-326-1437.......Mobile>863-370-0633
Mark
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 08:20:14 (MST)

Flight, does anyone have Barry Winklers phone number? Tornado went thru his area last night. Looks pretty bad down there. Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 06:47:30 (MST)

Hey Flight.....On our front page , at the bottom is now the "509" group patch that contains a link to a short video about Phil and the "509" and also a link to the Huey page...........check it out and a big thanks to the web master David for getting it up so fast. More photos pertaining to the trip over will be appearing soon too..........always a brother..................
Mark
USA - Friday, February 02, 2007 at 06:23:14 (MST)

Flight,I hope you guys get to meet these wonderful folks. Ron,Mark and myself,invited them all to the reunion.
alvis
USA - Thursday, February 01, 2007 at 16:59:15 (MST)

Hello Fred, Mark and Ron. Just a little note to say a HUGE thank you to you all for taking the time to come over to the UK to meet us and 509! We both enjoyed your company.It was a pleasure to meet you all and although it was only for a short while,we feel like we have made a long term friendship! You are all true gentlemen. It was lovely to share the tears and laughter with you! We know the trip was an emotional one for you all, each for different reasons and we can only begin to understand what huey 509 means to you. It has been and will continue to be, an honour to keep 509 flying! You are all very welcome to come over here at any time and it would be a pleasure to meet your families too! Mark, thankyou for singing those beautiful songs on Monday night. There wasn't a dry eye in the house! In fact I don't think any of us have cried so much as we did these last few days! I believe the final salute at Manchester Airport left Phil and Simon blubbering nearly all the way home! We feel very proud and humble to have met you all. Thank you from the heart. Jo and Phil xxx
phil and jo connolly <philconnolly@btinternet.com>
UK - Thursday, February 01, 2007 at 13:04:24 (MST)

HI Alvis coud you send them to me Art at tigerwagon@msn.comlike to see whot that place look like over there & they get into models of to they build them BIG I got a email & 4 guy built that new us air force tran port the tail was over 6 ft tall & there was a 747 about the same size I am going to get a model sub that my fother was on in ww 11 in the pacific & want to get a slick model to build like to have a radio contro one when I was younger I built some I like to build model & like to sale boats I had a 14 ft win flite took the wife out in it & puled the sail in as tight as I could & she went over bord but hung on to mr shorts & they went to my knees & so she got mooned I would like to rember the two guy that told me that my marrige would not last when I started wrighting to her & ask here to marrie me she sed YES we had never seen each other but in a picture well that was in 1971 & we are still with each other a little ware & older but we love each as much or even more & got a daughter & a grand son her out law on his side they dont like me because I tell them how I like him he a dud dont work she bring in all the money but that her problem not mine just as long as he does not try to stop us from seeing Scooter he cant aford it we by alot of thing & it help my daughter out a lot him coud not evern burn sh????? & he would stand down wind ofit wright & I am not kiden a little bit & that 509 ride I love to have done I like to sit back in that little conner with a gun just to see whot it was like again I live about 45 min. from Fort benning & see ship fly over a lot & some time some SLICK & I clouse my eye & put my self in one for a sec. or two & think about ever one that like to be in one I got some stick time in & I lay that nose over & let her go as fast as she could I keep here in trim beter than thouse arven so called PP well got to take Scooter home so take care BROTHER Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Thursday, February 01, 2007 at 12:19:58 (MST)

Fred, I would like to see the pictures you took over there if you would email to me. It's bulldog265atbluefrog.com...thanks. Ray, I'm glad they didn't find anything in your bladder test. I told you that it was worse in your mind than it would actually be. Of course it helps if you're hung like a horse like you. I told my dr. he better take his tie off cuz I was gonna grab it and choke him if it hurt... Just a few more tests to go now. Hang in there Brother. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, February 01, 2007 at 10:04:32 (MST)

Mark, Ron and Fred. Good morning from the UK. Glad you all made it home safe and sound. We would just like to say what an incredible pleasure it was to meet you three chaps - of such integrity, decency and goodness. You are such a credit to the 129th! It was an experience we shall never forget. We thank you for sharing with us. We thank you for your kindness to us but most of all we thank you for your gracious company and friendship. I'm in the process of viewing the video footage ready to start editing this Monday (4th). What I have seen so far will impress. The crew on the day haven't stopped talking about it!!! Cheerio for now. Simon, Nina and Bradley.
Simon Johnson <simon_johnson@talktalk.net>
Mellor, Lancs UK - Thursday, February 01, 2007 at 02:35:43 (MST)