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Flight, the best of wishes and luck for this new year. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all 129ther's and your families!! Gale & Debbie
Gale 67-68
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 22:32:56 (MST)

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That would be "SNACKS" not snakes...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 21:19:09 (MST)

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Was just checkin' with the test. I couldn't post yesterday for some reason. Well Randy, not really sure what your problem with this web site is, but a BIG WELCOME HOME to you and please stay in touch. Let it all hang out here brother. We have picked each other up from the floor many of times in here. You will not find any condemnation in here, just restoration. As far as drivel, you may think this is some, but to me it has been one of the best days of my life today. As the custom has been here at our house the last 3 years, we get to have 2 of our 4 grandchildren stay over night while their parents take a breather from parenting on new years eve. Being a grandparent is nothing like being a parent. Most of the rules go out the window when it comes to snakes and play and hours kept. We make a big deal out pf popin' popcorn round here. We have a stir crazy so we all gather round it to see who can be the first to see the first seed pop. We always feel it over more then it can hold so the lid spins around at the end. Makes for lots of laughter and hootin' and holler-in'. Loads of fun for us.,......Also, We have just finished watching The Lil' Mermaid for the 2nd time. Awesome show. I got kindy teary eyed when King Triton is saying goodbye to his daughter Ariel as she leaves with Prince Eric on his boat for their honeymoon. 2006 has been nothing but blessing after blessing for us. Many of those blessings are related to our friendship with all of you. No matter what lies ahead in the road for us in 2007 is not even here yet so nothing to worry about yet. I feel if I have left something behind me in 2006, such as thing that the Lord has ask me too, I consider it a success. Am I perfect? Absolutly not. Do I have to be? Absolutly not. Will I ever be? Only on the day our Lord comes back to get us. Am I arrogant? Absolutely not. Am I confident? You betcha!!!!!!!!!!!............I have accepted Christ as my Savior. All I have are gifts from him. Do I deserve any of it. Negative. I tremble at the thought of actually getting what I deserve. Can all of you have the same? Absolutly. It's free and already given. Not until we lose ourselves, do we find ourselves. Not until we give all up, do we gain all.............. Each and everyone of you may,and do,have your own feelings about life and death and the here after,thats cool, and I respect that, But this works for me. If you feel alone or lost tonight, ask Christ to take over your life, he is waiting for you to do so................don't mean to preach. These words are not mine. They are Divine............I love you all. Blessings in the new year to all.................always a brother............
Mark
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 21:17:28 (MST)

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Mark
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 20:39:33 (MST)

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HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL
RICK STEVENSON <RACING16MGR@AOL>
SOUTHSIDE, AL USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 20:29:17 (MST)

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Once Again I shall say "HAPPY NEW YEAR". As for Orlando and Disney, Ray to answer your question, most all of the Hotels have a shuttle bus over to WDW as us locals call it. Also my wife is a Travel agent for Disney Travel, and has a coupla tricks and suggestions up her sleeve. For those of you who are daring enough I have joined MySpace at the following address: http://www.myspace.com/dpfirst I have posted many pictures of my life and 1 or 2 for my time with the 129th. Peace and Happiness in the New Year. Dennis "Class of 72"
Dennis F
Haines City, FL USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 20:19:24 (MST)

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Happy New Years ang God Bless each one of you.
Rick Jensen <RickardAllanJensen@cox.net>
Clovis, NM United States - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 19:34:21 (MST)

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Shades of "Wet Willie" keep on smilin...good one animal LOL.....give your dad a good send off.
Kim
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 19:07:16 (MST)

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work day tomorrow, early to bed tonight. happy New Year to all.
Kim
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 19:03:42 (MST)

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I'm doing fine, thanks for asking! I'm in Dallas right now celebrating the life of my late Dad with brothers, sisters, cousins, and such. The only family member that's not here with us is in Afganistan, but He's represented by his wife and beautiful children. Although I don't pretend to be a legend, I'm glad we have at least one in the unit. LOL! Haoli Makahiki Ho !!!!!!!!Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 18:35:51 (MST)

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On this last evening,of the last day of december, I look back. I wonder. Is larry Lackey still with us? Animal,the earthquakes got you? Lurch,Dennis, you guys still around? I flew with each and everyone of you.Smitty,were still on standby for night hawk,thanks for all those good times,you helped ,make it bareable.Alex has done a great job with the reunions and unit history,Don ,a great job with the kia's, mia's. Gently,thanks. Hopefully,in this new year,we will gather in more brothers, meet some new ones at the reunion in Orlando this year,or ,like Ken,meet some in Kokomo.have a happy new year folks,may health find its way to your home.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 17:52:43 (MST)

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a good morning to all my brothers and sistwers , I want to wish you all a Hapy New Year. Randy I must tell you something if it were not for all these people of the 129th I have no clue where i be, The gave me strenth and the help i needed to mqke it threw it I was there in 69 -70 a door gunner like the rest, in june 6 2003 i just snaped .lost it .but a friend showed me this sight. i been here since to me every has seen viet nam threw threw own eyes .some seen it diffrent from others , It would be nice to see you come on here and join our family . we all been threw it your no diffrent. alvis is a good man,some day scrool doown and read some of his writings. Randy dont put down something that you dont know nothing about, join us at our reouin see home page ht to. or come back here. and get to mkow us as a family,i think you see we are a family of love & comtassion. you may find you may find you just like it. you may all so e mail me at stilwating@aol.com my bigest problem is i have a hard time understanding things i get mixed up. i just telling you every here know that a brother Ray OH PS if you havent notice i cant type or spell ;-=) let peace and love enter your heart.to the rest of the flight have a grate new year know i care for all of you, see you in orlando. oh is any one going to dizzy land perhaaps me and gail can go half on a car, heck ggail cant drive to well on the hiway and me i cant drive at all.if not i guess we find a way you have a nice new yeay and be safe i want to see you bace on the next dayl mark you take care, i tryed ti call you and i tryed to call wink mark i dont have your 3 RICK E I TRY TO CALL YOU LATER TODAY .OPPS I RAMBLED ON SORRY
RAY <stilawating@aol.com>
STREET, MD USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 13:28:35 (MST)

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Hey folks, as Mark as said, i don't think the purpose of this site is to run each other down. It should be a place of healing as much as possible. I worked for the VA for 20 years on a psych unit & so i have seen all the different types of hurt, believe me. I have watched as people have run the VA into the ground but they have helped me & some others i know & I tried the best i could to help each & every one & still do. Where do we get the idea one veteran is somehow "above" or better than another. That notion is ludicrous. I would like to offer myself if anyone wants to connect (Westwang@bresnan.net). ANYONE ! I want to wish everyone a better New Year & May the good Lord grant you peace when each day is done>>>>>>>>>>> Respects Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 12:25:43 (MST)

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cooks,clerks,maintainance,truck drivers,medics ect are all just as much part of the 129th as you or I.They have just as much right,and are just as welcome in here,as you or I.A hot meal was very welcomed by me. Move on? My past,our past, is as much a part of me as anything else.It defines who we turned out to be and in turn,guides some of our actions today.Why would i want to turn away from the best buch,finest men, I have had the privilge of knowing? I didnt fly anything,I was the guy in back,hiding in the gunners well.The hand of friendship continues to be offered here, its up to you to accept it.yes, I do cuss,I drink and smoke too.I used to ride a motorcycle too and have long hair.I have been unemployed a few tiems as well,been in jail a few times and have even littered once or twice.Shrug, do not expect perfection from me,I am far from it.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 09:47:18 (MST)

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Hey alvis, I am really impressed. What did you do with the 129th. Cook or fly maintenance???? Vietnam was 40 years ago. Move on, you act like it was the only thing in your life. Grow up. Bye the way I like a man who can only express himself by cussing.
randy <kingcobra697@yahoo.com>
USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 09:10:09 (MST)

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I drop in and read the mail now and then. It is like sitting around a a big family gathering. Some of the conversations you want to listen to and some you just tune out. That is just the way it is with family and I would have to say we are all brothers and sisters here. My Dad would always say to us "If you don't want to play with the other kids then go outside and play." I was there Aug 67 to Mar 69 I must have figured it was not all that bad as I extended. Ya you betcha. Was there ever a good year to be in Nam? Happy New Year and be safe. Gus 67-69 CE Cobra 949 "King Cobra"
Gus
Grand Rapids, MN USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 00:42:54 (MST)

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I agree with Fred... thanks for your sacrifice, Randy but I don't believe you were the only one who suffered in our war. We all lost a part of ourselves (and many of us, friends) there. I think this web site has a cathartic effect on those of us who visit regularly and it has and continues to help us heal from many of life's pains. We ARE friends here, and friends help and look out for each other... even it it means listening to "drivel". Kim, I like hearing the old stories, too. I had a friend, an old artillery surveyor during WWII... he told me he actually saw Mussolini hanging a in Italy. My old friend loved his cognac, too.
Dave
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 17:37:47 (MST)

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Randy,I disagree with what some have said. You are as much,and belong here as much,as I do.You are the 129th,so am I,so is Bill,Kim,Smitty and even the NON- flyers,who,without,we wouldnt have been able to fly.We want you to return,to contribute,to stay healthy ,to keep our history alive.Yes, the early guys "lit the tourch",showing the way.Its a know fact that helicopter warfare was deleveloped during the vietnam war and you early guys did alot of the developing..we smoothed out the wrinkles.Kia's spaned all years.What you consider drivel is important to the person posting,therefore important to us ,his friends.I typed a years worth of drivel in here when Susan,my wife was going thru her cancer treatments.I helped me get thru it,as I had no one to talk to,or just wanted to get it "out of my system".Sorry if i offended you. Many others are trying to reach out,friends dying is the same hurt,early or late.Fathers passing,mothers,brothers...the hurt spills over.Join us in our friendship.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 16:27:04 (MST)

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Frankly, I'd love to read some stories of the earlier years. I took the time to read the history of 632, it's quite interesting. My home town is full of survivors of THE tet battles. It's interesting that their stories are limited to their squad, or platoon perspective. I guess it's that way for all of us.... I have a friend who remembers the battle of the bulge. he was captured on the first day. Another was a truck driver in the 3rd armored. Same battle, totally different perspectives.....I think army aviation was invented long before the 129th was formed. We're all part of a lineage that was formed shortly after the Wright brothers escaped the ground thanks to an engine.
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 13:11:56 (MST)

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Happy New Year All!!! Kal, I agree with you. Randy, if you have a problem with the site, don't visit. But a lot of folks use the site to stay in touch and reminisce. And while some of the experiences may not be all that glamourous, or compare to Tet68, it's still a place for all of us to "meet" and "talk". On a cheerier note, my son in the Marines is getting married tomorrow! It was kinda sudden (no she's not pregnant!)but I'm still very happy for him! His brother (in the army) will be at the wedding as their witness. Kat and I are socked in here in Colorado so we can only be there in spirit. Anyways, all of you have a wonderful and SAFE New Years and stay warm! Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 10:06:43 (MST)

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Hey Mark... U made it to the big time now.. Your request for a "clearer map" of the Lane AO is on the Google Earth site. I see they have Lane marked on their map now also. Randy... It never ceases to amaze my that some people that get upset reading the "drivel" that some of us post here continue to upset themselves by continuing to read those posts..?? I made it through the TET of 68 with no problems. Matter of fact, I thought the light show put on when the Willy Peter bunker blew up was pretty spectacular. Personally I think the tour was easier in 68 than some of the guys went through in later years. I flew with the second platoon and prefered that, by far, to flying "guns" as being constantly on "stand by" wasn't my thing. As far as the drivel goes, I read most of it and it brings back some memories at times and clues me in to other things that went on before and after my time there. It also broadens my prospectives as to what "these guys" are all about. Anyway, I have always been one to say "to each his own" and let others live their own lives, so I must say, if you don't care for what we post here.. DON'T READ IT....Pretty simple reasoning.. Take care.. Love and Brotherhood... Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (a) email dot com>
St Joseph , MI USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 08:51:40 (MST)

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well another year is coming to an end. for me i never figured that i would be around this long. so every day i wake up and see my refletion in the mirror i know i made another day.like evertone i have my ups an downs an some times i wonder if its all worth it, but i have five reasons to keep me going, my four kids and my 129th family.without these i don't think i would be around today.so as we come to the end of 2006 look backon the yearan be proud of yourself an what you come throuh in the past year an remember what one has accompliced an over come in our life time. so enclosing may everyone have a great and happy new year........... fred a got the decal an put it on monti, looks great. thanks. dennis give me a call, lets talk about what we want to do during the reunion.i'll try to call you but i'm terrible when it comes to calling people. call me on my cell phone. 863-370-0633. wink 3/69--10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 08:32:32 (MST)

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HI GUY Hi Jen I know ware you are coming from my first time in nam I was a cook hated the job so I became a grunt OJT was no fun they told me one thing dont get close to some one but I had & he well you know how he went home& I hated all the gooks so one day the 60 gunner told me how you like to try a 60 out so like a dummy I grave it & tore the hell out of some tree & some other guy tried it & the 60 guy give it to foster he not afraid of it so i was the 60 guy for a week I asked him how do you take it apart & he gave it to me & he jump on a chooper for rr so I had a day to do it & you shoud have seen the look on the guy faces A cook with a 60 after that week you are as good with that 60 as frying edds & your eggs wear the best we have ever had&I found out you take every thing in you can & sort it out for the best way to do it. I think ever one had a little OJT over there Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
HOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 00:15:48 (MST)

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Guess I am beyond blasting anyone these days, but look at the sight a couple times a day. As to legend or history this is where I am learning so much from others. For me I got to the 129th and no one gave me a history class, just an M-60 and a UH-1. Outside of 1st Flight I did not know anything and hardly knew what was going on there. I still want to hear whatever people have to say as it brings back memories for me as I learn about the unit we served with. Maybe from all that is talked about our history will remain and hope others at least take time to check out what is written about. Just hope to know all my 129th brothers regardless of when they served.
Ken Strong Jr
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 21:22:44 (MST)

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oh,I forgot...many of us have met at reunions and are friends,we care.Try making one,a reunion,you mihgt end up with some friends that care too.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 21:17:33 (MST)

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Randy,your full of shit. I had written alot more( but erased),but refuse to get into a pissing contest with an ignoramus.You get into an arguement with a idiot,they just drag you down to their level and win with experience.By the way,,merry xmas.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 21:13:27 (MST)

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Why is this web site so full of drival. Some people have real problems and don't care what you got for birthdays or where you have been or how many beers you have had. It seems like to me that the older the vet the more problems we have. You guys in the 70's thru 74 inheirtered what the earlier guys left you. All you had to do was carry on the tradition and the history. Any wonder why the old guys aren't on your web site talking about whose birthday or some such shit??????????????????? We made the legend you people inheirted. Personlly I am tired about someone spouting off about some hairy mission. Try living thru TET of "68" in the guns!!!!!!!!1 I will get off and let everyone blast me. Randy "66, 67, 68".
Randy Burnett <kingcobra697@yahoo.com>
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 20:36:44 (MST)

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Oops too many taps on the send key
Dennis Fuerstenau
FL USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 17:28:50 (MST)

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Seasons Greetings! Since I missed sending Christmas Greetings let me go with "HAPPY NEW YEAR". Not much happening here in central florida since I convinced the Dr's I ain't going to take everything U prescribe. Not happy with adding Type 2 Diabetes to the list of problems, but we all get older. So to appear to stay young and on the advice of my kids I have created a MySpace page as follows http://www.myspace.com/dpfirst .Comments are welcome and anyone who has a space send me an add request. Remember "It Ain't All Bad". Dennis Class of "72"
Dennis Fuerstenau
FL USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 17:24:18 (MST)

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Seasons Greetings! Since I missed sending Christmas Greetings let me go with "HAPPY NEW YEAR". Not much happening here in central florida since I convinced the Dr's I ain't going to take everything U prescribe. Not happy with adding Type 2 Diabetes to the list of problems, but we all get older. So to appear to stay young and on the advice of my kids I have created a MySpace page as follows http://www.myspace.com/dpfirst Comments are welcome and anyone who has a space send me an add request. Remember "It Ain't All Bad". Dennis Class of "72"
Dennis Fuerstenau
FL USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 17:24:04 (MST)

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Seasons Greetings! Since I missed sending Christmas Greetings let me go with "HAPPY NEW YEAR". Not much happening here in central florida since I convinced the Dr's I ain't going to take everything U prescribe. Not happy with adding Type 2 Diabetes to the list of problems, but we all get older. So to appear to stay young and on the advice of my kids I have created a MySpace page as follows http://www.myspace.com/dpfirst Comments are welcome and anyone who has a space send me an add request. Remember "It Ain't All Bad". Dennis Class of "72"
Dennis Fuerstenau
FL USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 17:23:45 (MST)

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Seasons Greetings! Since I missed sending Christmas Greetings let me go with "HAPPY NEW YEAR". Not much happening here in central florida since I convinced the Dr's I ain't going to take everything U prescribe. Not happy with adding Type 2 Diabetes to the list of problems, but we all get older. So to appear to say young and on thwe advice of my kids I have created a MySpace page as follows http://www.myspace.com/dpfirst Comments are welcome and anyone who has a space send me an add request. Remember "It Ain't All Bad". Dennis Class of "72"
Dennis Fuerstenau
FL USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 17:23:03 (MST)

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Bill, that was my experience when I was at Ft. Carson in 1972. The snow always dumped on the Springs and the Western Slope was always dry. We've not received any more significant snow since the big dump a couple weeks ago. Stay inside and drink hot chocolate and forget shoveling. Happy New Year!
Dave
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 12:08:55 (MST)

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Hay Bill, can you send some of that to Indiana? On the news last night they were telling the golfers to go out today. Here it is a muddy mess and I am missing winter but it sounds great out there.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 09:31:09 (MST)

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Good lord, I may need a chinook here soon in Colorado Springs!!! Its 15 degrees, wind is howling, and snow is already 3 feet high!!! But it is pretty!!! (as long as you dont have to go out in it!) Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 08:56:20 (MST)

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Wisconsin Jim.......Happy Birthday!!! 60.....geez! It's just around the corner for most of us also:>))))). Any thoughts on joining us for the Vets Winter Re-union in New Glarius in January? Ron Paye usually meets us there. I'll be taking the WI Famlies of the Fallen to the Highground on August 25th for the Laying of Legacy Stones of their loved ones and an afternoon of bonding...mark it on your calendar and we'll see you there! Again, HB!!! L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 07:41:08 (MST)

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Hey Mark, remember that guy at the speedway that I asked you about by the name of Mark? I think his name might be Mark Fritz...........ever hear of him?
Gale
USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 16:59:26 (MST)

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Thanks Mark...I havent heard anything either...and I have sent several e mails to him and to Jo,his wife,who runs the guestbook.Perhaps the left the country for the holidays. Hopefully they will ask someone else to go in Vals place,perhaps a pilot.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 15:16:16 (MST)

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Hello Flight. Happy Birthday Jim. Hey Rick E. I sent you an email earlier....Ray, how you doing Brother? Mark, hope you and the Dee had a good christmas. Kal, thanks for the kind words.. Good to hear from you. Hope everyone else is doing good. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 10:09:26 (MST)

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Good morning Flight & Happy Belated Birthday Jim. The news from here is even though my wife & I lost our first home with the disability from the VA now we walked into a great deal to take over payments for a house. So have been busy doing the things we need to get moved in. I wish I was able to get around better with my back but hope to find someone to help. I've also had a cold and my wife is on me about my hearing aids. She doesn't understand that the ringing in my ears is really loud right now. Not sure why but maybe it is this crazy Indiana wheather. When people talk about snow, I just wish the ground here would freeze. I am starting to see we might not get any the winter. Still just all of my brothers be safe on New Years Eve.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 08:49:26 (MST)

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Fred I have heard nothing from Phil. I called him 2 weeks ago to conferm to him that Val (Larry's daughter)Will Not, I repeat, Will not, be going. I ask him how that would affect the BBC and he said he would call them the next day and get back with me. Thats that last I heard from him and I checked hi9s web site last night and saw nothing about the trip also. I'll call him to see what is going on. OK?.........company still rolling in and out and in here for the Holidays. Have a safe new years all.........God Bless............always a brother.........
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 06:32:19 (MST)

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Mark,have you heard anything from Phil? Is the 15th thru the 18th a firm date? gotta request (on paper)time off from work.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 03:38:18 (MST)

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Hey Hey..Happy Birthday Jim!!! And many, many more!!! Also, A belated one to you too, Robbie. And also I must say sorry to see that about your brothers passing. I am glad to see that it wasn't all draged out with a lot of suffering. Seems as though there are quite a few of us December birthday boys here. March must have been a good breeding month... I hope all had a Merry Christmas and here is hoping for everyone to have a Happy New Year!!!...L8r... Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom <n8auu (a) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, Mich USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 16:10:18 (MST)

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Jim - Happy Birthday - have a great one!!! More snow coming to colorado tonight!! Just barely getting dug out from the last one.
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 08:32:25 (MST)

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The very best of birthdays to You Jim, hope you see many,many more,in good health.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 07:04:42 (MST)

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Jim Happy Birthday hope your christmas was a good one. Sue thanks for the heads up. You two be careful out there. Flight becareful outthere for New years.
Rick England
USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 04:43:55 (MST)

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Yes, & very interesting, i just got off the phone a while ago with my dads twin, he is 87 today, my dad dies 13 years ago & of course today was his. Jim, Happy birthday & its a pleasure knowing you both, still have the pics of when we went for cheesecake & some of the downtown of Indy, Have a great one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 23:17:50 (MST)

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Today is Jim Hydinger's 60th birthday. Although he was in VietNam in the early years before many of you who write, he reads the 129th site daily to keep up on the lives of those who contribute. He is one of the lucky ones - no nightmares or pts. He is one of the good guys. He is kind, generous and always looking out for others. If you would join me in wishing him a happy birthday (the milestone that it is!), it would make me very happy. Thanks to all of you for keeping in touch. Happy birthday, Jim! Sue H.
Sue H.
USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 20:56:29 (MST)

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HI now whot to wash out the filter
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
HOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 19:51:19 (MST)

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HI Just some thimg to save you some money on your clouse dryer & if you use fabrik sofner & if you have never washed it take it & hold it over the sink & put some water on it I bet you it will stay there & not run out just wash it with some soap & warm water & rince it out good I found it out from a frend. ART
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
HOGANSVILLE, GA> USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 17:27:56 (MST)

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Hello everyone! I've been off the web for over a week because I've been out of town..hanging with my mother:>))) Anyway, the bracelet goes to J:>)))...please contact Don Miller with your addy, etc. The walking stick(Mark) goes to Kim, so Kim please contact Mark about it. I received very few Christmas fund checks this year..like 3..but that's the way it goes. And not surprisingly they were from those who have the least...what can I say to such giving people...you have touched my heart once again. I wish i could share your names with the others on the web so they too could be humbled by your love and generosity....but i can't. When I get settled back, and receive the remaining auction money in I'll make a deposit and let you know what we have in our fund to get your brothers to the re-union in 2007. I didn't put up a tree or any decorations this year because I wasn't going to be home.....but that very special "Retroman" Christmas card went in a place of honor! I love you my brother and very special friend...can't wait to see you again. Love to all...and you can still send donations to the Christmas fund!! Peace in 2007-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 08:47:03 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all. Ms. McNamara. So grand to see your post in here. Gang, LRM has become a very dear close friend to me through this journey all the time I have been walking with you guys. We met when I was first checking into the "Bunker" on the VHFCN web site back 10 or so years ago, and have been in touch ever since. Just recently she has gone through the loss of her husband and mother. Please keep her in your prayers. Although we have never met we have become very close and exchange info on just about all that goes on in each of our families.............wishing all of you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New year. HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!...................always a brother..........
Mark
USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 18:58:15 (MST)

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Hi to all of you I had a good night well Scooter real name is JOSHUA & I was nice to Scooter dad Glenda told me not to drop kick him out the door & I was nice to him went down to my safe room with my pc & nintendo 64& played south park the turkey in it are bad news there one I named BRAD & i nail his but every time& i take my anger out on that one turkey I hit him & then back off then go at him again. I would hate to go turkey hunting there would not be much of him left after about six dubble 00 buck shot. I was thinking about ware I sleep at night in a bed well he sleep on the JOHN all night he fell off it one night & put a hole in the wall with his head & that jacked me up tight & the funney thing about it is that Tammy get a good night sleep when he does sleep on the JOHN & it 3or 4 time a week I told the wife how he got time to bring Scooter to life on the JJJJJ Last night that ware he was all night the wife asked Tammy how was her night fine he was on the john allnight & he can fall asleep in a hart beat you coud put him on the end of a 16" gun & fire it he would not bug a inch& like I told you had a good night & it was A good one to day So have a good NEW YEAR Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 18:21:46 (MST)

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Ho Ho Ho ! Debbie and I wish all of the 129th and families a very Merry Christmas!!!
Gale
USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 11:12:46 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all. I got to spend time with my three month old grand daughter, along with two other grand kids. Life is good :>))
Kim
Livermore, Me USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 10:29:32 (MST)

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8" of new snow in Central Wisconsin - Sue & I were without power for 27 hours! Makes you appreciate being able to flush the stool! Merry Christmas to all! Jim H.
Jim H.
USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 10:23:53 (MST)

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Wishing all my friends from the 129th a very merry christmas, and a joyous new year. And to all of you who are still fighting the VA. don't give up, because in the end you will win
Lou Rags
Dover, De USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 09:24:35 (MST)

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From Kat and I we want to wish all of you a very special Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
Bill Wolf
USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 09:23:49 (MST)

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Dear Mark..Dee ..and all the kids... Thinking of you today and of course your late Brother "Larry"...You are and always will be specical to me Mark as you were responsible for me meeting so many exceptional people in the Bunker...I read your story about your email re: your Mom and Larry's box today..a beautiful Christmas story..As you are aware this is my first Christmas without the Love of my Life who also was my Best friend...and my Mom..so please offer a prayer for them...You all are in my heart and prayers.. I couldn't be happier that you are now both in your new home..a new beginning.. Lets not forget our troops stationed all over the world on this very special day.. Love...lrm (----) Merry Christmas Mark..Dee and family and the same to all who visit this site ...God bless.
L. McNamara
R.I. USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 04:38:14 (MST)

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Hi Brothers & Sister I hung a picture of JESUS on the wall & the wife that not the place I wanter it & I told here I want to put a light over it there a wall plug down at the floor I will run a wire up the wall & put a place to plug it in & it will be like the STAR that SHINDE ON HIM when he was born & it will be lit for now on.for what he had went throw & JESUS will be in are homes with us all tonight so we shoud say a prayer for him & he will WALK ON THIS EARTH AGAIN & I HAVE NO DOUGHT ABOUT THAT. LET IT BE A GOOD NIGHT FOR EVERY ONE TONIGHT LOVE Art & Glenda & SCOOTER he here to night to & Tammy & Brad
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
HOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 20:31:57 (MST)

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just stopped by to say merry christmas and happy new year to all on the flight log. looking forward to kokomo again in sept. gently: got a recipe for vegetarian golabki might have to make some for you at kokomo
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 20:07:52 (MST)

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My Mother does not sleep upstairs anymore. To hard to get up the steps. We needed some bedroom furniture for one of the rooms in the cabin. mom said we could have one of the 3 rooms sets upstairs from her house. We loaded the furniture up the other day and as I was doing that, I noticed an old wooden jewelry box that has been at Mom's for years. It is one that Larry made in Industrial Arts class in High school. I have had my eye on it for a long time. It now sets above my desk here at the cabin at my POC. I just cleaned it up and am in the process of putting all the 129th stuff like patches and pins and stuff in it. Just like our hearts hold Larry and the rest of the gone 129thers in them, now Larry's "Wooden Jewelry Box" hold you guys and your stuff in it. They is in us, and we are in them..........Just as our Beloved Christ who's birth we celebrate tonight is in all of us. We love you guys, Merry Christmas and Happy new year to all............always a brother........
Mark
USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 18:38:38 (MST)

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folks,merry christmas from Susan and I.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 17:50:51 (MST)

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We have gotten some snow here from the top edge of "the great storm", so will have a white Christmas after all. I am very sorry to hear about the Blackhawk & crew." They gave it all. Sometimes when i feel bad i need to remember. Count my blessings. I have my family around me>>>>I have all of you>>>I have a chance to change, be a better person or at least try>>> I live in a country where if you dont like what is going on you can still disagree.>>> Most of all I need to remember every day all those "who gave it all". They gave up their ability to have a family, change, & all the things I have so that I am free to have them. God Bless Them & all of you & thank you for being here for me. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to Everyone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 15:54:44 (MST)

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I had a slick fly over the house wenday thort it was the two engin one but it was singel one it look good like to have sitting in it it would take me back to my younger day & some good time. I got a picture of Jimmy the ROK army int.he flew with us a lot got a bunch of the 129 co. from the tower it show the dust off co. The wife told me if I stick my finger in the pink stuf she brake itWhen she make it when she in the other room I take a spoon & scrape some of & she think I havent tuched it I can get around her at times. I think I think I found a scanner for movie film. wife call got to go take care every one Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 12:06:28 (MST)

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Danny I'm familiar with the area. I got reassigned to good ole Ft Lewis in Sept of '72 to the newly "reactived" 9th Inf Div. I got assigned to D Trp, 3rd Sqdn, 5th Air Cav I believe it was "south fort". It can get nasty up in the mountains. If I recall, they're the Cascades west of Ft Lewis. Its always sad When one of "ours" goes down. Hey Bernie I've replaced my cell phone & unfortunately I've "lost" your phone number.So give me a call so I can re-enter your number.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 09:54:13 (MST)

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unfortunate incidents are never welcome,but this time of year they are just heartbreaking. Salute to those flyers and prayers for their familys.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 06:22:33 (MST)

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Friday night about 8:30 local, a UH 60 Black Hawk helicopter out of Ft. Lewis crashed into a 1,800 ft. mountain no far from me, killing all three on board. My thoughts immediately went to Capt. Mat Parker. Information so far in the newspaper say that it was a helicopter with the 4th Squadron, 6th Air Cavalry Regiment, which has been at Ft. Lewis for about a year. Lets pause for a moment and remember them in our prayers.
Dan Hertlein
Lake Tapps, WA USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 23:19:26 (MST)

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something I wrote last sept a year ago... Mortars were exploding, people screaming, the night sky had a red hue to it, with flickers of intense lightning whenever another explosion occurred. Gooks were inside the wire, people getting shot everywhere. Our side became less and less; we were losing. The guys next to me are now dead, shot or caught shrapnel. There are only about 6 of us left, fast losing them as well. We are in a foxhole, trying to hold out, trying to stay alive. I find myself in a bunker with my dead comrades. All dead but me...and they’re still coming. I shoot, and take some down, but there are too many. Shit, I am out of bullets, no more rounds to be had. They are in the bunker with me now...bayonets pointed, fingers on the triggers. I see them squeeze, fingers turning white as the trigger goes down.... I wake up sweating, scared, breathing hard...again. The lady next to me sleeps on, peacefully, steady, slow breath, warm, peaceful. The V. A. docs say that my PTSD isn’t service connected, though my dreams are real. I ask them,” Why do I dream this? It never happened to me, nothing like that happened to me.” They shrug their educated shoulders and tell me, "It’s not unusual for that to occur." Brothers, the fight continues. We left Vietnam behind, but it didn’t leave us behind. Little did we know of the demons packed away, coming home with us. They were camouflaged, peeked out their ugly heads, a little at a time, and then when the time was right, they emerged for short firefights. The sons a bitches are entrenched.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 22:09:38 (MST)

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Kim, in 1st Flt I didn't fly to many ARVNs around except a couple of times, once with some VC and remember one of the pilots giving them cigars to smoke, they smelled so bad it was hard not to throw up. One place was LZ English and the other I am not sure except it was the first time I was around ARVN Pilots who scared the crap out of us landing. I am not sure if it was near Phu Cat but may have been because they were always getting hit with something. It will help when I start getting more things back in my head. Take care Flight, we bought another house and I have been painting all day.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 21:48:30 (MST)

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Dave, I can sympathise with the ice ride. We had a lot of ice overnight, and it didn't start melting till noon today. It was a nice day to kick back and keep the stove fed:>))
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 18:39:00 (MST)

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Ken, we staged out of Miami beach several times, my best memory of that place was a CA where we were flying along and I leaned back against the bulkhead and noticed that the trans panel was dripping hydraulic fluid. we were always told that a charlie model accumulator was only good for a couple strokes of collective, after which everything would freeze. It made for a tense ride back to Miami beach. Luckily, it was only a fitting that vibrated loose. A quick turn of a wrench, a quick check that we still had some in the resevior, and we got back into action....did you ever fly any of the arvn's who were gaggled just west of phu cat?
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 18:34:13 (MST)

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I won't say we had a lot of snow here in Colorado Springs, but I had to get a snow plow to come and get the snow off the driveway so we could get out. They even got stuck and it took 30 minutes for them to get out!!! But its starting to melt and the sun is out and all is well!!!
Bill Wolf
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 15:31:26 (MST)

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The Colorado snow storm... I'm in the "Banana Belt" here on the Western Slope. Not the same can be said of Bill Wolf! Colorado Springs used to get dumped on in the winter in the 70's. We've had a couple snows in the last couple weeks. The first dumped 14 inches on us, and the last about 5 or 6. My son and his dad-in-law went from Liberal, KS to Pueblo, CO the day before last to "rescue" his sis-in-law. He said that out of the 250 miles one way, they drove over 200 miles on ice. Going back it was only 100 miles since melting a little. Hunker down and throw another log on the fire, Kim! Merry Christmas everyone!
Dave
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 15:19:02 (MST)

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Ken,there are lots and lots of things I dont remember. Certian incidences and flights,certian people and times,thats all.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 10:44:15 (MST)

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Alvis, I enjoy getting on here and reading the stories that everyone post, but like last night I laid in bed after taking all my pills trying to remember. It seems like a lot of you have a better brain than mine or I just forgot. There were so many ghost towns in 72. It seemed there were so many runways scattered up and down the coast with nothing there. Then you talk to other vets like my brother in law who were a part of building these places in the sixties it seems like the whole story starts coming together. A new question, Miami Beach, I spent several days there with a LTC adviser and than we had a CA with maybe the 160th. Do you guys remember?
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 08:52:16 (MST)

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Ken,Tuy Hoa was just about a ghost town at xmas of 71,almost all of the airforce had moved out.Yes,it was most likely ghostriders you ate with,they were on the other side of the Vung RO pass,south of Tuy Hoa,,at a place called Ninh Hoa...I was sent there after xmas of 71 for the rest of my tour.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 05:59:59 (MST)

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Hi guy look at acouple hundred slids tonight & have some of the pilot p pilots & some crew got a good one of tiger wagon & I will send them when I get my slide scanner Well got to go got some Irish wiskey to help me sleep the doc nurce called to check out my pace maker you & it OK take care Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
HOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 21:46:13 (MST)

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Well Christmas draws near and didn't get my wife a Wal~Mart gift card. LOL, I wanted to say one last time to all my brothers, Merry Christmas. The only memory I have of XMAS 72 was the same old thing. Tuy Hau was a runway with a spot to refuel.. Still in the village was a little place to eat with enough room for maybe four huey's to land. Does anyone remember it? Remember some Ghostriders there and kind of a strange cease fire zone when going out of that area.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 21:34:54 (MST)

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Laughing here. Dennis was the P. Pilot on that tdy mission,Gabby was the pilot.Glad you didnt loan me the money Dennis. I played Hearts almost all night and drank a killzillion beers with the guys in those quarters.Christmas eve,10,000 miles away from home,to make matters worse, we 4 werent even with our friends back at Lane. Outside of our little bubble,people wanted to kill us ,loneliness was fought with whatever was at hand,and knowing it would be awhile when/if we made it home...which it turns out,some of us didnt. While at lane,sometime in late 71,there was a show across the hill near the 61st.I remember a bunch of pretty ,untouchable, american girls and what seemed like a million screaming young American(boys to them) men. All it did for me was to make me aware of where i was..a long way from home.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 19:50:46 (MST)

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I think his name was lumpy Barnham?? He had a couple young moisty looking round eyes with him, one sang some folk songs. Bob Hope was there with Vida Blue from the Oakland A's, Brucine Smith, miss world u.s.a., Jim Nabors...first time I ever saw a teleprompter!..... The storm that wallopped Colorado is here now, freezing rain, going over to rain over night.....5 bucks???
Kim
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 17:35:54 (MST)

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Wanted to Wish all of the 129th family a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Alvis, saw you x-mas 71 story. The whores weren't that good. You didn't miss much. sorry I didn't loan you $5 to get a chance.
Dennis Faucher <dennis-faucher@hotmail.com>
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 14:51:21 (MST)

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MERRY CHRISTMASS TO ALL OF YOU. I WISH YOU AL WELL.I HAVE A ??? FOR SOMEONE THAT KNOWS ABOUT HI TECK THINGS .MY TV WENT UP A WG=HILE A GO IT BLEW THE SURGE PROCTE AND CIRCET BRAKER, I PUT CIRET BRAKER ON ALL CAME BACK ON. I CALLED WHERE WHERE I BOUGHT THE TV HE CANEOUT SAID I HAD A POWER SURGE AND IT BROKE THE POWER SUPLER IN TV BUT I LOOKED THE SURGE PROCTER AND THER WAS A DIM LIGHT TAT SAYS DC TRIGER DOSE ANY ONE KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IIT WAS NOT A CHEAPPROCTER I PAIED 150.00$ FOR IT MY SELF I THINK THE TV CAUSED IT BUT CANT PROVE IT ITS A GOOD THING I BOUGHT THE EXTENED WARENTY FOR THE MANFACTURE DONT COVER A SURGE. GAIL CALL AGAIN WHERE WE GOT THE PROCTER TOLD HIME WHAT A DC TRIGHER THAT LIGHT WAS DIM HE TOLD HER TO BRING IT BACH GET A NEW ON, TALK TO KAL HE ALSO TOLD ME TO GET THIS APC 550VA OPS FORGOT THE REST BUT IT HAS A BARRTY GAIL HAS THE PAPER.WELL TAKE CARE AND HAVE ANCE HOLLIDAY WITH YOUR FAMILY AND LET US NOT FORGET OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO NEVER MADE IT HOME. ORDID AND PASSED AWAY YEARS LATER KEEP PEACE AND LOVE IN OUR HEARS ALWAYS A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY THANKS
ray <stilwating#aol.com>
md USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 14:51:07 (MST)

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Bob Hope Show, eh? I have a photo a buddy of mine shot of Mr. Hope up at Da Nang in 1971. What kind of USO show did we get at Lane? Mr. Greenjeans, his niece and niece's fiancee, as I recall (heh, heh). Remember the show they did on the lowboy in the big north Lane hangar, Kim?
Dave
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 10:17:37 (MST)

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Bill, I bet you miss your boys when you are out there shoveling, huh. LOL. No snow here in Indiana. It's about 55 degrees and partly sunny and I love it!!
Gale
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 10:15:38 (MST)

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Well, it's "official" - I'm OLD!!!! Went out to shovel the snow after our blizzard here in Colorado Springs. Had a 3 foot high drift on the driveway and sidewalk. Tried using the shovel and snow blower, but pooped out. What ever happend to the days of drinking all night and digging all day??!!! Guess that's why they have snow removal companies!!! Thank goodness!!! My Army son arrives tomorrow night for Christmas and just talked to my Marine son. You all have a very safe weekend and the most wonderful Christmas!! You all have enriched our lives and we pray for all of you. Bill & Kat Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 09:35:37 (MST)

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Ray, It was good talking to you the other day. Hope all goes well with the person that is coming to check to see that you're being taken care of. I know you'll want to tell them where to go, but it will be better for you and Gail if you don't. Merry Christmas to ya Brother. I'll be heading to Elmira to see my Daughter and Grand kids. The count is up to 4 now. Bridget had another little boy on the 11th of Dec just 2 days after my birthday. Wink, got your card. Thanks Brother.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 08:39:04 (MST)

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Brothers, Merry Christmas to you all! Be safe and enjoy!
Dave
USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 07:48:20 (MST)

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Hi flight NHA bay was a nice place we got to go there a few time with ship 351. Does some of you rember Jimmy the Korien. wenday coming home droping Scooter of had a bad flash back a deer had got hit & was tore up bad & I was back nov. 13 68 dont know how I drove home & it was 30 minets later These flash back are going to kill me I got to call the va & my shrink & take the wife with me he want to talk to her to went down a nother size to 44 from a 46 about 90day pryer I was a sight 48 I think it time to take astay at the va for about 30 day I am hoping not. Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA> USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 21:31:31 (MST)

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Thinking of the November models.....every one of them had a minigun in a door, one had a fifty along with a searchlight on one side.
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 20:10:01 (MST)

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Christmas 71....I was in Long Binh with the Thai Air Force. I got to watch the Bob Hope show on the 24th, partied hearty the 25th with some friends at the 120th. The 26th, I was crewing a mike model with a pilot who thought we were in an AH-1, along with a Thai peter pilot. We were carrying a full load looking to make some practice runs when we got diverted to some place in the delta to support some rvn's who were in trouble. Single ship gun runs, sixty degree dives, rotor, engine overspeed sirens blaring.I was sliding from door to door with my sixty ( no gunner)....quite a time!!! We rearmed and refueled at Nha Bay, which had a platoon of N models. We teamed up with them for a couple more sorties, and returned there for chow. Real steaks, real potatoes....Navy ate right, for sure. I think I logged at least fifty hours there, maybe ten actual combat hours. I don't think one minute made it into my flight record :>)....All too well, I remember the claymore incident. I always wondered if those clackers were really hitched to anything. THAT convinced me to not frig with them!!
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 20:06:13 (MST)

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Gale, these friggin politicians up here in Jersey, fight over land boundries.....For more taxes...So we got "zoned into Springfield" because we are renters.....Summit is to snobby to have renters.....We are now 75 feet from being in Summit,NJ......Renters don`t pay property taxes....Fred Skaggs, 416 Briant Park Drive, Springfield, N.J. 07081......But Briant Park...is a Summit park......Dave, I shot the "Post Commander`s" dog.....A little brown Datsun(Weiner dog).....Just being a good soldier, obeying orders he put out.....1st Sargent Duddy(sp) said," Skaggs you`re one of those guys that goes fishing with dynamite"?.....
Fred Skaggs
Springfield, NJ USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 18:50:24 (MST)

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Kim, you're absolutely correct about the grandkids thing... I've got 3 now, and 2 in the oven! Wonderful little creatures... What's particularly weird is trying to watch your kids raise theirs. It's funny and frustrating all at once! Yeah, I think I was actually on guard duty on the night when the guy in the tower killed himself. I remember hearing over the intercom someone saying that the guy shot himself. The implication at that time was that it was suicide. I also remember hearing that shot ringing out from the southeast perimeter (near the POL bladders). Kim, do you remember the guy who didn't believe that the clackers were attached to the Claymores and detonated one to find out? I remember Top standing out there the next day, arms akimbo watching the guy restringing concertina wire after having blown a hole through the old stuff... I laughed! It's almost as funny as Fred Skaggs' story about Top's dog... come on, Fred tell us all!
Dave
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 15:45:44 (MST)

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Fred Skaggs, did you move again? Send me your address.......the card I sent you came back "insufficient address".
Gale <burdman129 ( @ ) sbcglobal.net>
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 14:01:20 (MST)

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WINK... mailed it today. sorry it took so long to get off my butt.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 13:51:04 (MST)

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Breno, thats just like the Army...have a 129th bird there and you guys having to wait on the fixed wingers.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 13:50:05 (MST)

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"Ditto" on the X-Mas Alvis. I was "in country enroute" From Camp Evans. I also spent X-Mas in Tuy Hoa. Some of the "other" guys in transit from Camp Evans, Bruce Louden from Kalispell, Montana, Jerry D Moncrief from somewhere in North Carolina, Jose Flores from Port Isabel, TX, SSGT Zapnic I dont recall from where he was, I don,t recall the others. It definetly was a Quite X-mas. No brew or whiskey -. Tuy Hoa was "very Accomodating as comapred to "Evans". The transit barracks had A/C-we weren't used to it- we'd been in country for appx 5/6 month. So the barracks were "cold". Hot & cold running water, there was even an A/C'd library. "NO DETAILS". When we were there it was boring. But now that I think back, we were having a safe Christmas. I had a good bed, hot & cold chow & my buddies. It really wasn't a bad X-mas. Some days later we finally got a flight to Qui Nhon & then to a ville, I believe was Phu Tai & then finally Lane. Now New Years was a whole different story. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year & good will to all men. Dawg 426 is clear left & "OTTA HERE"!!!!!!
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, Tx USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 07:42:54 (MST)

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my annual 'xmas in vietnam 'story ...Xmas of ‘71 found me TDY in Tuy Hoa. The helicopter and crew had been assigned to support MACV and SOG groups/bases out in Indian Country, west of Tuy Hoa. What we were actually doing was taking beer, mail, etc. and passengers around to the different camps. We had been doing this maybe 2 weeks. NOW, at this time, Nixon was doing his American troop withdrawal act and Tuy Hoa base was almost a ghost town. We quartered with some Air Force types - pilots and their crewmembers. Make a long story short, they set up a deal in Tuy Hoa ville and ask us to fly over there to "Do the deal" for the Xmas party they planned. Sooo, just after dark, we moseyed on down to the active flight line, past armed guards etc, lit the fires of the Lycoming L-13 engine, which our slick had, got ahold of the tower and took off. ‘Twas about a 3 minute flight to the Ville. We landed, took on 8 passengers, and returned to Tuy Hoa's active flight line. As we hovered and slowly moved sideways to park our bird, an Air Force truck pulls up. We were the only moving aircraft on the entire Tuy Hoa base that Xmas eve evening, so I am sure we were being watched by personnel, if for nothing more than sheer boredom. Throwing Army blankets over our passengers and hustling them over to the truck ended "our part of the deal." What we had done was went and picked up some whores for the Xmas party. Being just 7 days before payday, all I got to do was drink the free beer…which I did with gusto that night. So much for Xmas in Nam, but it was fun doing something totally against Army regs for once. (Sigh) About 2 weeks later, the ship was lost; she was a good one. Seems a few folks weren’t still in the Xmas spirit when we happened to fly over them.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 06:56:06 (MST)

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Gale, we now have 4 of your ornaments on our Christmas tree. We always make sure they are out where everyone can see them. Thanks again for remembering us. Merry Christmas everyone. Jim & Sue H.
Jim H.
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 20:03:36 (MST)

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As I recall, there was a guy from 7/17 who shot himself while on guard duty, early June of 71. He was playing around in the tower across from the pol point, near the ville, and somehow managed to shoot himself in the head. Given our ages and all the whiz bang stuff we had to play with, it's a wonder it didn't happen more often..... I think Tanton's hootch was at the end near the basketball court, one level up. Dave, hope you haven't gotten snowed in too bad :>)) We're looking at bare ground, with temps in the 40's. Not much chance of a white Christmas for us. My youngest grand daughter is up here from Cincy, ( with her parents). Just turned 3 months and she can pull herself upright!! Best reason in the world for having kids...GRANDKIDS!!
Kim
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 18:37:50 (MST)

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Hi chech this web sight out it for are BROTHER & SISTER in IRaq OK Art WWW.letsaythanks.com
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 18:02:54 (MST)

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Hi chech this web sight out it for are BROTHER & SISTER in IRaq OK Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 18:01:13 (MST)

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Kim, thanks for the info. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 14:31:05 (MST)

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Seems to me that he shot himself accidentally, in his hootch. I was out flying when it happened, and I was told about it. He was cleaning a contraband weapon, I think.
Kim
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 13:47:04 (MST)

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Here's some more information regarding Tanton's cause of death: "During Vietnam, Korea and World War II, for every hundred "accidental homicides," there were about 110 cases of "accidental self-destruction" (a soldier killed by mishandling a weapon, often a grenade)". This is from a website "Strategy Page". Does anyone recall a possible incident where Sgt. Tanton may have accidently shot himself? Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 09:36:42 (MST)

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Flight, regarding Charlie Tanton, as I understand it from the records, "Accidental Self-Destruction" is basically another way of saying he committed suicide, but that it was "accidental". In the book I am working on, I am listing it only as "Accidental". Whether the loss of Jim Young the day before or just the conditions there influenced this will never be known. As we all know, Nam left each of us with our own demons - then and now. As far as I am concerned, Charlie was as much a casualty of the war as any of our other fallen comrades. If any one disagrees, please let me know. Bill (btw, the book is about 80% complete).
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 08:49:42 (MST)

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I see that SSG Tanton died the DAY AFTER James Young (6-26-71)... I know that 6-26-71 was a nasty day (particularly for helicopter crews), but I only remember James dying on that assault in Binh Dinh Province. Kim, let's hear your recollection of those days, i.e. Young's chicken plate. I remember attending a memorial service for James, but don't remember another about that time. My hunch is that Charlie Tanton may have been from another 1st Aviation Brigade unit, but could have been involved in the same operation. That obviously doesn't jive with the "non-hostile, accidental self-destruction", however.
Dave
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 07:58:32 (MST)

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Bill, here's a site I found with a little more info on Charlie Thomas Tanton, but I didn't see the unit listed there. It says his "MOS was 63C40, non-hostile, died other, accidental self-destruction", whatever that means. Could he has been with 7/17th, or 61st, or? http://www.no-quarter.org/code/details.cgi?IDNO=420423174
Dave
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 07:46:39 (MST)

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Goodmorning Flight: Alvis I almost have the summary of history that Phil wanted. I will send a copy when done . Will completed my 1st ptsd group session. The social workers at the VA hosptial have been real helpful on my ptsd claim. Plus I found out that the folks whom review the claims. Most have never been in the military or ever seen combat. That explains alot to me. But, Get as much as you can on a dd215 it will help. Have A Safe Christmas and New Years. Always A Brother.
Alex
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 07:19:40 (MST)

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Thank you Gale and Debbie for the ornament I have them all on the tree. Merry Christmas to all. http:gunnersaustralia.net This is a good site it has some good pics and poems with a song. Tim Cole one of our TIs ask me to put thid on the site. Thanks Tim. Merry christmas to all and be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 06:26:03 (MST)

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Don,went to the site,went to your place,it brought a smile,to this old face.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 06:09:15 (MST)

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I've seen requests for this ............. so here it is http://donald_6.tripod.com/niteb4xmas.htm Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah to all
Don Miller
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 01:05:36 (MST)

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CHARLIE THOMAS TANTON SSGT - E6 - Army - Regular 1st AVN BDE His tour began on Oct 26, 1970 Casualty was on Jun 27, 1971 In BINH DINH, SOUTH VIETNAM NON-HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY ACCIDENTAL SELF-DESTRUCTION Body was recovered Panel 03W - Line 91 This is all I can find on him
Don Miller
USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 01:00:20 (MST)

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Hi on military .com
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 18:38:26 (MST)

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Hi guy check out whot the va going to do if Bush pass it. it for the one thing they dont half to do.
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 18:32:50 (MST)

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is that the guy that got shot, by a 51 cal ,in happy valley?
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 17:25:15 (MST)

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Gale and Debbie, thanks once again for the cool little ornament! It takes its prominent place on tree!
Dave
USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 17:03:43 (MST)

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Does any one remember the cause of death for Staff Sergeant Charlie Thomas Tanton - records shows he died June 27, 1971. Thanks. Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 11:58:41 (MST)

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Words to live by, Alvis!!! Thanks for the good advice. We're getting snow today and through the rest of the week. My son in the Army is driving out from California to spend Christmas. My son in the Marines will be spending it with his mother in San Diego as he is in training at Camp Pendleton. Get that last minute shopping done guys!!!!
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 08:25:15 (MST)

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Holiday Eating Tips* 1. Avoid carrot sticks. Anyone who puts carrots on a holiday buffet table knows nothing of the Christmas spirit. In fact, if you see carrots, leave immediately. Go next door, where they're serving rum balls. 2. Drink as much eggnog as you can. And quickly. Like fine single-malt scotch, it's rare. In fact, it's even rarer than single-malt scotch. You can't find it any other time of year but now. So drink up! Who cares that it has 10,000 calories in every sip? It's not as if you're going to turn into an eggnog-alcoholic or something. It's a treat. Enjoy it. Have one for me. Have two. It's later than you think. It's Christmas! 3. If something comes with gravy, use it. That's the whole point of gravy. Gravy does not stand alone. Pour it on. Make a volcano out of your mashed potatoes. Fill it with gravy . Eat the volcano. Repeat. 4. As for mashed potatoes, always ask if they're made with skim milk or whole milk. If it's skim, pass. Why bother? It's like buying a sports car with an automatic transmission. 5. Do not have a snack before going to a party in an effort to control your eating. The whole point of going to a Christmas party is to eat other people's food for free. Lots of it. 6. Under no circumstances should you exercise between now and New Year's. You can do that in January when you have nothing else to do. This is the time for long naps, which you'll need after circling the buffet table while carrying a 10-pound plate of food and that vat of eggnog. 7. If you come across something really good at a buffet table, like frosted Christmas cookies in the shape and size of Santa, position yourself near them and don't budge. Have as many as you can before becoming the center of attention. They're like a beautiful pair of shoes. If you leave them behind, you're never going to see them again. 8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each. Or if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? Labor Day? 9. Did someone mention fruitcake? Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it at all cost. I mean, have some standards. 10. One final tip: If you don't feel terrible when you leave the party or get up from the table, you haven't been paying attention. Re-read tips; start over, but hurry, January is just around the corner. Remember this motto to live by: "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" Have a great holiday season!
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 06:40:10 (MST)

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Gale & Debbie, Thanks once again for the ornament, i have 5 of them on the tree right now. Linda & i sent a letter to you. Hoping everyone has a merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. I have my family around me & thats most important (that includes my 129th family) Our Best to all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 00:51:41 (MST)

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Mark, my passport has arrived. Is your niece going?
alvis
USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 20:53:32 (MST)

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Hi Brother & Sister well I got A bout 1000.oo slide to go throw from 68 to 71 I wounder how in there red 1 68 top tiger & 129th.so all you have a Marry Christmas from Art Glenda & my pall SCOOTER
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 17:19:35 (MST)

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Hello flight. Gale and Debbie, thanks for the ornament. It is on my fridge with al of the rest of them. Alex and Liz, also got your card today thanks. I've been busy digging in the dirt to put a new pipe in for my sink and washer. It stopped working and I had to do something before cold weather got here and I couldn't dig. New pipe is in and I'm back in business until the next thing goes wrong with this old house. It's almost 200 years old now and it's amazing to me that it is still in the shape it is. I wish everyone a merry christmas. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 13:14:58 (MST)

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Merry Christmass To All. And gale thanke for the orment . How are you. and Debbie, How are you Judith. ,Judith should be in the mail. Gails has ben busy hard o get out of the office to get to post office, Rob Wink kal Rick and Alex how are you all doing. May every one have a grate Christmass. its to bad we can't have this sprit of helping and giving every day well I will still be reading the log. take care a brother always Ray oh judith I used this name gor i for got hoe to spell the other one you go by sorry love ya sis if i dont hear fromany one have a grate Christnass still going to try to call you Rob OH Don how is Donna feeling prayes are with her
Ray <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 08:38:20 (MST)

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Flight, glad everyone's getting their 129th ornaments.....it's my pleasure!! Haven't had any returned yet. Alex, do you have the new address for Don & Valerie McCort? He told last year that they were moving and the last one I have is on Gibson Cove in Lavergne, Tn. Bill, that's a really nice video.....thanks for all that you do for us. Gale
Gale
USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 08:24:19 (MST)

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Just a reminder of the latest video: http://www.wolfcms.com/wall.html I leave it up thru Christmas. If any one wants a dvd of all the videos so far, just send me your snail mail address (no cost involved). Gale, thanks for the 129th ornament - looks great on the tree. Stay warm everyone!!! Bill
Bill Wolf <vnheloreunion@aol.com>
USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 08:12:37 (MST)

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morning flight and merry x-mas to all. gale thanks for the orniment it goes good with the others. fred a thanks for sending out that decal. bought a newer monti carlo an like the older one it will look good on the trunk lid. ray i haven't called ralph bean yet but i will. its just hard to do , if you know what i mean. if your still in contact with ralph give him my cell #. wink 3/69- 10/70
wink
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 07:29:40 (MST)

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Mark, I applied for the "quick" passport,Dec. 6th. They said it takes two weeks.It should be here this week...hope so. Our Aussie friends are leaving today,headed for Las Vegas to spend xmas with his brother.What a great ,fun loving couple.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 06:18:44 (MST)

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Hi All....I have been so out of the loop fer a spell. Way to much going on with the cabin and the holidays as all of you are probably also. Computer has been unplugged in the other room for 5 days while I have been hammerin', instalin' lights, burnin' boxes, and just about everything else that goes on with a move. Will try and stay more in touch now. Frec any word on your passport yet?....take care all........more later......always a brother, Love to all..............
Mark
USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 20:06:27 (MST)

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Afternoon Guys, I am continuing to research a helicopter that served in your unit, 66-00632. I have set up a sight that has what I know so far. Go to www.uh6600632.bravehost.com. Please feel free to comment or add to this story. Thanks, Don Reed
Don Reed <trkdon@hotmail.com>
Temperance, Mi USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 14:00:28 (MST)

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Kim and Gale...Besides being "Brothers in Arms"......We are "Union Brothers" also......I was a Chief Union Steward for AFSCME for 13 years....and a loyal union activist....... God I miss the days, when you could catch a "outspoken non-union politician" drunk on their ass in a bar. I would walk up to him and say," Good Evening Sir, I`m Fred Skaggs,Local 1632, the public employees union you`ve been critizing in the newspaper"....." Well those "union police officers" are working outside". "Maybe you should let us take you home in the "union van"......We`ll even drive your car home for you.......it`s a "union" public service".....For you Fox News lovers, that politician I`m talking about... has his own show on Fox News these days..... My wife works with "union warehouse and office workers" at Gucci and she loves them.....Most are Europeans and have never known anything but "organized labor".........That`s one thing I love about Jersey......everything is UNION.........The Union primary purpose is to represent their members in their employment and to negotiate a contract that improves wages, benefits, and working conditions. History has shown that only when workers join together in unions can their voices be heard and the lives of themselves and their families be bettered. They exist to protect workers from unfair treatment. Through collective bargaining ,the unions has been able to provide its members with better wages and pension benefits, better health care, job security, and the best available training for career advancement..........LIVE BETTER/WORK UNION
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 06:13:13 (MST)

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Just passing this information request from Captain Parker: It's been a while, but we've been rather busy around here. Could by chance fill me in on why 2nd Flight PLT chose the pentagon shape and the spade on their patch? This would help us in refining some proposed designs on a future patch. Thanks, and have a great holiday season. Matt Captain Matthew L. Parker Company Commander HHC/4/160th SOAR(A)
Dan Hertlein
Lake Tapps, WA USA - Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 22:41:10 (MST)

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Ken, as I recall from bible school, Jesus didn't have a problem paying Roman taxes....why wouldn't he shop at Walmart? :>)..the issue, according to organized labor, is that walmart is driving the 'race to the bottom' that we're currently engaged in as a society. If you follow the expanding economy model that ran this country through the forties, fifties and sixties, the economy ran on the belief that the union workers demanded higher wages, which allowed them to buy products, even though the prices went up due to higher wages. Ever since the'free trade market' came into being, we've seen wages depressed, jobs funnelled overseas, mom and pop stores closed, as the market shifted to a ''big box economy". The feeling is that the huge retail outlets are able to drive down costs, dictate to the suppliers what price they'll pay for goods, forcing them(manufacturors) to search for lower labor costs (overseas), fewer environmental controls (overseas), limited selections of products. It's deflation at work. The world is not better off environmentally, the standard of living for the overseas workers is not improving significantly........I don't doubt that there is a grain of truth to the argument, the question is how much, and what can be done about it? Academia was big on the "information age" economy model, which had America shifting to high technology, and information collection and transfer, which would be high paying, clean, work. UNFORTUNATELY, a lot of the high tech stuff is handled overseas too. ( think call centers, tech support, stuff like that). Also, there is a strong minority in the country who like working with their hands, who have no interest in college education, who will never work in some antiseptic environment. The interesting thing is that those people who were going to become a permanent 'under class', are making good livings in construction, maintenance, doing all the things that the educated *****'s can't!...back to wally world......by not providing health care and other benefits to a significant portion of their workforce, they are keeping their labor costs down, at the expense of the host communities. If someone who has no health insurance becomes sick, the expenses incured are passed on to the people who have insurance, or, the taxpayers. This, along with their ever increasing profits, infuriates a lot of people. Wally world usually ( in Maine, at least) tries to negotiate sweetheart deals with town councils and state government for tax breaks, highway exchanges, land acquisition......which puts the existing businesses at a disadvantage, as their tax dollars are now supporting their competition, who will undercut their prices and drive them out of business...there is a lot more to it, obviously......as for the question 'would Jesus shop at walmart"?, I dont' think that's a valid question. For me, the question should be: would Jesus recognise Christmas? People spending thousands of dollars for a video game machine, buying whatever junk is available, just to give a gift to someone, who will return it on the 26th? Christmas sales starting before thanksgiving? How does Christianity play into all this madness? I understand the spirit of giving, I just want to be in charge of the decision process as to what and how much.
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 18:18:59 (MST)

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Ken, get her a Walmart giftcard......:o)) Just kidding buddy! My opinion about Wallyworld? It can't compare to the factories we used to have and a union shop. Now-a-days that's all the young people have and when you are trying to raise a family.......well, it just don't get it. We've all been sold down the river by "our" politicians. I worked in factories for 10 years and then for the US Postal Service for 32 years and have always been a union man. I've been retired now goin' on 7 years, I feel very forntunate and worry about the youngsters. Now you're sorry that you asked.LOL Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 10:10:00 (MST)

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Good morning Flight, also thank you Gale for the card and the addition to our Christmas Tree. Just to change subjects and hope not as bad as last time I was watching FOX NEWS. I just was watching them talk about the new ads, "Would Jesus Shop At Wal~Mart?" In the past couple weeks I have spent a small fortune there. My brother in law in Floridas wife past away a few years back from breast cancer but had about 17 years with them and sold a lot of stock without complaints. At the time my ex wife was working at Wal~Mart she was making more money than I did for almost nine years. The real thing is my son started with them when he was 16 and continued into college. With his dicount each year he somethings saved up to 8K on purchases. I don't get it, they just opened the third store here and it is still sometimes hard to find a place to park. So any comments out there? Please this is just a quite question as I don't understand what some people are talking about. I thought it was a great place for my son to start and feel he learned a lot, even what capital gains taxes were when he cashed in his stock. He saw that was not fair. Have a good day guys, I still got to figure out what to get my wife or will be in trouble.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 09:50:24 (MST)

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MY head not wright the site is www.andiesisle.com then look for the first Christmasgift
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, ga USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 16:52:15 (MST)

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Hi FlIGHT go to this web sight & play THE FIRST CHRISTMASok & THANK TO ALL OF YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HART ART & SCOOTER
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 16:37:55 (MST)

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Prayers from my family to Scooter & may a Christmas Present be his speedy & complete recovery>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 11:22:46 (MST)

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Art, prayers on their way for Scooter... Rom. 8:28, pal. Great job (once again) on the video, Bill!
Dave
USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 08:58:47 (MST)

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Our prayers for Scooter's quick recovery.
Bill Wolf
USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 08:32:26 (MST)

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Gale appreciate the card and the ornament is on the tree with all the others you have sent. Hope you and Debbie have a safe Christmas. Fred as soon as I get the history done I will email it to you. And the forward it to Phil. Well everyone have a safe Christmas. 41 years ago Some of us had our Christmas in the 129th.
Alex
USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 08:25:05 (MST)

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click on this addy for a xmas card..from Sue and I to the 129th family. May peace,health,happiness and contentment, find their way to your familys door in the comming year.... http://ecard.ashland.edu/2004admission/index.html
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 22:05:45 (MST)

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Robert Mason,the author of "Chicken Hawk" posted on the 509 site. GALE,,grabbed the mail today,,,thanks buddy.Speaking of which....WINK>>> I found another decal in my desk today,,will mail it VERY SOON.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 21:39:03 (MST)

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Auther,prayers sent for little scooter.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 21:09:08 (MST)

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Gale; thanks for the card and the ornament. hows the camper coming? merry christmas to all the rest of you guys. i read every day, just not much to add.have a good holiday paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 18:44:23 (MST)

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Hi every one Scooter has a bump on his head about the size of a golf ball he just had his head cut on & now this would you PRAY for HIM PLEASE & FOR ALL THE OTHER kids tHAT ARE SICK & ask GOD to heal htem & FOR HIS ONLY SON PRAY FOR WHAT HE DON FOR US. THANK ART & GLENDA
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 17:34:25 (MST)

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Alex, he told me,at the air shows,folks walk by the jets,and old fighters,ect,but when they get to the 509,they just stop.When they see our KIAs listed on the doors,they go quiet and stop dead in their tracks. He says its perhaps the most popular aircraft at the shows.Even other pilots from the old war birds come over to have a look and a chat. Alex,thanks for doing this history thing...Kim,thanks for the history thing you sent as well.Its important to the unit ,guys, alot of folks see it and remember..its the only one over there and it was ours,
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 09:31:53 (MST)

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Great work Bill,,great work.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 09:25:41 (MST)

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hi bill tes i got it open it is a god vidio thanks , i put it with the resr=t i think at times i like sitting just look9ing t them. i still play my flute cant wait for orlando.rob i call soon and you to rick alex i know you work . gently how are you doing i know you are busy with many things . they will be a check in mail tomorrow for sure , hope to hear from you soonl a brother always ray everyone take care ok. oh al my test cane ouy grate they dont know why i hurt may be just stress .we joined a health club i need to lose a lot of wait see you in orlando ray
ray
md USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 09:03:28 (MST)

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Alvis, why do I suspect you're using an Etch-a-Sketch instead of a computer??? lol. If Alex can access it, I know you can!! Here's the link again to the video: http://www.wolfcms.com/wall.html
Bill Wolf
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 08:16:57 (MST)

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Bill Wolf: Once again you have done a great justice to our Fallen Brothers. I hope everyone takes time to see the video. Thanks!!
Alex
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 07:19:33 (MST)

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Ken I still need the trazadone and anti anziety meds to sleep. Also anti anziety med for going to town for road rage. You might want to sort out what you feel better with. This might take sometime until you get back down to earth. The groups at the vet center helped me . Now the brothers in the group get together on our own, for lunch, fishing trips and going into the desert to shoot our weapons. I have a 1911 45cal, model 29 44mag, sks, m1 carbine, and a shotgun that uses up to 31/4 in shells. We also do quail and dove hunting. These thing we do it help us keep from isolating and knowing we all share the same feelings together which we reinforce each other when we get together. We still have our other families I wish they would understand better, but they will never know. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
Wittmann, AZ USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 06:59:26 (MST)

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Goodmorning Flight: Well back to work!! So not alot of time to check the log. Been trying to get paid for the two weeks they made me take off. But, what's new in bussiness. Got a phone call from Phil in England yesterday. Wants a summary about the 129th history. He told me that our Huey is the only one in the UK. And the turn out is overwhelming at the air shows to see it. I will keep you posted on the summary I write. It will be short and to the point. Something to long and drawn out I feel most wouldn't take the time to read. Kal your right. Orlando is 6 months down the road. We have alot of 129th people in Flordia that have never made a reunion. Hope to get some of them there. Always A Brother!!!
Alex
USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 06:52:28 (MST)

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Hey Bill Wolf.. Thanks.. It was almost like being there for real... Been to the traveling wall lots of times but the real thing is much better. Here is the address for those having trouble, he only left out the "dot com".. www.wolfcms.com/wall.html ... Here is wishing all of you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!. Also, Orlando is only 6 months off now. Anybody thinking about riding, motorcycles, down.. Never to early to start planning. Take care.. Love, brotherhood and best wishes to all.. Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (a) email dot com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 06:17:15 (MST)

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Hi Flight I am Alive again. I stopped taking the other meds after I was about sick all the time but coming out of the daze. Alvis you must have drove right by here, of coarse I am down to a mini 14 and a Ruger 22. Well again Merry Christmas to All.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 20:56:41 (MST)

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It doesnt load Bill...says no page exist.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 18:39:30 (MST)

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hi bill i tryed to open your new vido but could not, but thanks any way,oh i got a new vd player portable i think its to muck it talks about jepeg and a lt of other thinks says u can load pic misic from cds off the puter way out of my leage i bring it to orlando. gail got it but it also plays cds its nice but hardto under stand well i like to wish everyone a grate holida6 bill glad your sons are doig well. i be back on soon take care take care gently and everyone elese a brothe always ray
ray <stilwatingwating@aol.com>
md USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 17:00:25 (MST)

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VIDEO ALERT! Here's a little video I put together for the holiday to remember all our Nam comrades who gave the ultimate sacrafice. www.wolfcms/wall.html
Bill Wolf
USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 15:46:26 (MST)

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Fred A.- Sounds like a great time to me! I love the smell of freshly fallen aspen leaves in the cool mountain air... AND the smell of freshly-ignited gunpowder! My son and sons-in-law will all three get a brick of .22 shells for Christmas. Hope our new friends in Congress don't decide (once again) that we need to be relieved of our guns... could get ugly, like Australia got. Merry ChrisTmas brothers!
Dave
USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 07:01:15 (MST)

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HANOI, Vietnam It's been over for more than 30 years, but the Vietnam War has claimed four more lives. Vietnamese police disclosed today that two men and two children were killed in their house in the Central Highlands Sunday when a left-over bomb blew up. They had been planning to sell it for scrap metal. One of the men had found two of the four-inch bombs in his rice field and was showing one to a neighbor when it went off. Ordnance and land mines from the war are often dug up, particularly by farmers. About 38-thousand Vietnamese have been killed by the devices since the war ended in 1975.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 06:19:19 (MST)

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just for the record..we didnt kill anything,nor did we want to.Did find a tree stand on the property...pissed off my friend as its his land ( 1 square mile) and they do NOT allow hunting.Ken,whished i knew where you lived,would have stopped by and got you. Funny part is, my friend (marc) owns this land,but it has a "nudest camp" on it. Too bad it was raining and cold..hehehehe.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 20:48:09 (MST)

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Took our aussie vistor shooting today.People cant own guns in aussie anymore.Took my russian SKS with 100 rounds of east German 7.62x39,my 22 with 500 rounds,met my friend in northern Indiana who had a 9 mm and a 454 cal. rugar,supposeably the largest hand gun made.Now my Aussie friend is an x- aussie cop, but hadnt shot anything for 30 or so years.Twas raining but it looked like a bunch of boys out in the sand playing.Deer tracks all around,racoon tracks,turkey,,,, we had a great time. We went north to about 20 minutes south of Gary Indiana,shot a bunch, then went up to the Great lake there, and walked on the beach for a bit. Got some great pics of him shooting,smoke comming out of the barrel ,ect.ahh,was a good day.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 20:40:44 (MST)

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This place is too quiet! mark, maybe we need a political fight to liven things up??? Just kidding...One of the good things I've noticed, despite all the controversy surrounding Iraq, is that the tv shows are still airing recognition of the folks who are serving. Robin Meade on CNN, the local channels airing holiday greetings from locals who are serving overseas........got into a conversation with a rep from GL&V today. He was telling about a manager they used to have. He was drinking one night, and got to telling war stories. Said he served in nam as a pilot. One of the guys drinking with him asked what he flew, and he replied that he was on A10's! Next day, he was fired :>)).Made me feel good to know that at least one asshole got his just reward.......on the auction end of things, I got a bracelett from Melody last year. It was beautiful! if anyone knows someone who could use a one of a kind item???????
kim
Livermore, Me. USA - Tuesday, December 12, 2006 at 18:08:27 (MST)

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Rotor Chain bracelet bid is at $150. Walking Stick(Handmade cane from Mark Jackson) $25. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 13:04:01 (MST)

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Hi Flight I got it to & when I get to the point have to be by my self in my shop trying to take it out on somthing I nead to fix but it end up me spending mor money but it better than taking it out on the wife & I think that how come we been marriedso long aug 28 71 that along time to be with one wife. I was in the VA on the nut floor & They called my wife to come in to talk to the head shrink & he seed the wrong thing your two got home problem she gut up & told him than what have all thies other guy got & she left the room & I told him doc you got a better chance of living sanding a lion ass than messing with her & I know that.I had a doc that was glad to see her & she talk to her mor than me so guy take your wife with you & tell the doc if she can come in it will help you a lot well got to take Scooter home take care Art
ArthurEFoster <TIGERWAGON@MSN.COM>
hOGANSVILLE, GA. USA - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 12:47:24 (MST)

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i hit the wrong key. but we are jst kiddinf, we have that lady fight for us . so we try not to worry. but when go to va dr they spend more time telling me to see my out side dr..i feel at time they dont care then at times som of the dr do; i do get confused real easy but i hang in there. I WONT LET THEM WINN. WITH OUT A BIG FRGHT . IF YOU WANT SEND ME YOUR # AND A GOOD TIME TO CALL YA I GO TO PERRY PT DR IN MD IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO GIVE YOU ZOLOFT IT CARMS YOU DOWN SAME WITH TOPIRMATE.TAKE CARE BROTHER HERE IF YOU NEED ME OK A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
ray
md USA - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 08:47:57 (MST)

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Ken glad to hear from you. i got anger problems to. if some cuts in front off i go off i had a short fuse but its a bit longer now, what i dont like is the va coming to my house to judge us if we have a good marrage ,i told gail we should have somr pot plants hanging up a bong in the midel of the flower
Ray
MD USA - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 08:38:10 (MST)

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Mark, Kim has bid on your walking stick:>))) And we now have a bid on the rotor chain bracelet!! Come on everyone...those rotor chains are hard to come by and soon will not be available at all. This could be your last chance to get one. And Mark's walking sticks are made by him personally and very beautiful....I'm closing the bidding at 4:30 on Friday. The pictures are gone..I closed that bidding last Friday. Ken, that's a lot of meds! Will someone here talk to him over the phone and help guide him through all that. I know we've been there for dear sweet Ray..and many others...Ken's pretty new to the site and may not know how you always step up to help one another. Meanwhile, I'll be looking for your donations (thank you Ken) and keeping an eye on the bidding. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 07:06:28 (MST)

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Thanks Ray and it is not boring as I have read your past post here. Honestly a lot of my anger issues are about problems that I, you and others have to deal with. Did the same with an MRI on disk. After talking to an American Neurogagist he said to bring copies of my other MRIs. The morning I showed up there were two doctors, not the one I talked to, and neither spoke english very well and were from differant countries. No one knew how to even look and them and ended up with needles burning nerves in my neck and they were not even close. So now I am going to still try this new drug because these doctors scare me if it came to anything like surgery. Ray I will keep your ph & email address and let you know how it works for me.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 20:47:30 (MST)

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Sorry I haven't been able to land here in a long time and I can't stay but wanted to put this up. Anybody want to buy a Cobra? Go here, they have one for sale. Drool, drool. http://www.provenancefightersales.com/cobra_N2734D.htm Clear left? Clear right? Up collective and I'm outta here.
Larry Kwiatkowski
Simi Valley, CA USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 15:13:41 (MST)

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ken the frist one was 100mgs of that fris med,, if you want you can call me any time 410 836 3319
ray <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 13:46:53 (MST)

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hi ken i have been takining it for a while istarted t 10 mg them to 200 now 300. it knoks me out. i sleep good. but i still have bad dreams. and wake up wit a very dry mouth,but its good for ptsd i also take topiramate 200 mgs and zoloft 200 mgs a day also 30 mgs of valum a day and many more i carrry a list in my alet in case i get in a wreck i know what yo mean how it is otake so much med, a5 night if i take my bed time med to soon i have a hard time eveen getting there. i even went to my family to see if i was over medicadshe thought i was ok. but now i cant even walk around the yard i gasp for breath, the va is giving me a stress test on the 15th i even had a out side dr do a cat scan he made acopy for me to give to the vabut put on a DVD ,they acte like i gave them somethig from another planet, i was told to see my family dr. i also have some people from th va coming up here to see how we live and if me and gail have a vital marrage ,last year they told me to make gail power of attoney, got a letter this year say that was un exceptal was on the wron from needs to be on a dd something. i called my congress saidit took a year to see it. she called the vamany times told me we have nothing toworry about, they do ramond checks . some wifes run off with the money and some of the vets buy drugs, but we got money in bank a clean house so we be ok. hs this happen to anyone eles. don miller my heart and prayes go out to you and donna God bless you both,well hi to all i just want to tell ken about that med and tell people what the va is doing. my congress person said they be doing more, i tell yyou she has helped us so much. sorry for borring you , but i guess it makes it a bout even by some of the ones i read lol love you all. rob i and rick i call u soon alex not sure when u worl wink i call u tomark i dont have your # i sent you a e mail and som pic .gently hope to hear fron you take care .kal i be on msn its just been hard i try to help the man working in our yard bt come back hard to breath i said to much sorry a brother always ray see youall in orlando
ray <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 13:27:26 (MST)

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Alvis, will be waiting to here where and when, also thanks for posting Joe's talk he is one that really got around in NAM. Last of all I have been out of it the past couple days as my srink added Quetiapine to my long list of drugs. This is the second day and I am hardly able to get moving. Anyone else taking it? I have Morphine and take only a 100Mg of Trazodone. Guess I am lucky as one friend takes 400Mg to sleep. The new meds were to to help with anger, it is making me high instead after the second pill last night.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 10:09:54 (MST)

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Joe Galloway's talk to the Army Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Assn. "Thanks to all of you for giving me the honor of speaking to you. I have got to tell you that looking out across this assemblage I must confess: I haven't seen this many bad boys collected in one location since the last time I visited Leavenworth Prison. When I first learned that I would be doing this gig I asked an aviator buddy of mine what else I needed to know......and he said, well, most of you would be bringing your wives along.......that half of you were so damn deaf that you couldn't hear a word of what I was saying.....the other half would be so damn drunk you couldn't understand what I was saying..... so I might just as well talk To the ladies...... I have waited years to be able to share this story with so august a group of aviator veterans as this: A few years ago I was at a large official dinner and I was seated next to a nice lady who was the wife of a two-star general. I knew the lady had two college- age daughters and I also knew that one of them had been dating a Cavalry lieutenant.......so I thought to make some polite conversation and I offered her my condolences at her daughter's choice of companionship. "Oh No!" the general's wife said. "He is a fine young man. Nothing wrong with him......and at least he isn't a goddam aviator!" I just wanted you to know that your successors in the bizness continue to win friends and influence people in high places. Before I go alongany further in this thing I need to ask you some questions: --Is there anyone here who flew with the 1st Cavalry Division? The 229th? The 227th? How about the old 119th out of Holloway? Any Marine pilots who flew them old CH-34 Shuddering Shithouses??? Now I know I am among close friends......I know that old Ray Burns from Ganado, Texas, is here.....and I have got to tell you a story about me and Ray that goes back to October of 1965. Plei Me SF Camp was under siege by a regiment of North Vietnamese regulars. I was trying to get in there.....like a fool......but after an A1E and a B57 Canberra and one Huey had been shot down they declared it a No-Fly Zone. So I was stomping up and down the flight line at Holloway cussing......when I ran across Ray. He asked what the problem was and I told him. He allowed as how he had been wanting to get a look at that situation and would give me a ride...... I still have a picture I shot out the open door of Ray's Huey. We are doing a kind of corkscrew descent and the triangular berms and wire of the camp below fill that doorway.....along with the puffs of smoke from the impacting mortar rounds inside the camp. Hell.....I can scare myself bad just looking at that photo. Well old Ray drops on in and I jump out....and the Yards boil out of the trenches and toss a bunch of wounded in the door and Ray is pulling pitch.....grinning......and giving me the bird. When the noise is gone this sergeant major runs up: Sir, I don't know who you are but Major Beckwith wants to see you right away. I ask which one is the major and I am informed he is the very big guy over there jumping up and down on his hat. I go over slowly. The dialogue goes something like this: Who the hell are you? A reporter. Son, I need everything in the goddam world from food and ammo to water....to medevac......to reinforcements.....and I wouldn't mind a bottle of Jim Beam.......but what I do not need is a goddam reporter. And what has the Army in its wisdom delivered to me? Well....I got news for you.....you ain't a reporter no more; you are my new corner machine gunner." Ray.....I want to thank you for that ride.......wasn't for you and Chuck Oualline I wouldn't have had half as much fun in Vietnam. Hell.....every story anyone has about Vietnam starts and ends with a helicopter......you guys were simply fantastic. Thank you all. Thank you for every thing....large and small. Now I guess I got to get down to bizness. All of you know that I have spent most of the last forty years hanging out with the Infantry.....a choice some folks view as perverse if not totally insane. But there was always method in my madness: With the Infantry things happen close enough that I can see what's happening.....and slowly enough most times that even I can understand what I'm seeing. There's just this one little downside to my long experience with the Infantry: During that time I have personally been bombed.....rocketed.....strafed..... and napalmed by the U.S. Air Force.....U.S. Navy......U.S. Marines.....and U.S. Army Aviation......as well as by the air forces of South Vietnam.....Laos......Sri Lanka......India......and Pakistan. Now I don't consider myself an inconsiderable target.....and wasn't even back when I could fit comfortably behind a palm tree......but here I am....running my mouth.....nothing hurt beyond my dignity. Don't get me wrong; I don't hold any grudges against those gallant winged warriors. But ever since the first time they attacked me and missed.....I have never ever used the words "surgical bombing strike" in any story I ever wrote. I had the chance to say some good things about all of you at the Memorial Service at The Wall on Sunday. I meant every word of that..... and more. You chopper guys were our heroes in Vietnam. You were our rides....but you were much much more than that. We were always either cussing you for hauling our butts into deep kimchi.....or ready to kiss you for hauling us out of it. I have a feeling that without you and your birds that would have been a much shorter and far more brutish war. You were our heroes, though, first last and always. You saved us from having to walk to work every day. You brought in our food and ammo and water.....and sometimes even a marmite can full of hot chow. To this day I think the finest meal I ever ate was a canteen cup full of hot split pea soup that a Huey delivered to a hilltop in the dry paddies of the Bong Son Plain in January of 1966. For a moment there I thought if the Army could get a hot meal out to an Infantry company on patrol maybe.....just maybe.....we could win the damn war. Oh well. I think often of all that you did for us.....all that you meant to us: You came for our wounded. You came to get our dead brothers. You came....when the fight was over.....to give us a ride home from hell. There isn't a former Grunt alive who doesn't freeze for a moment and feel the hair rise on the back of his neck when he hears the whup whup whup of those helicopter blades. What I want to say now is just between us.....because America still doesn't get it.....still doesn't know the truth, and the truth is: You are the cream of the crop of our generation.....the best and finest of an entire generation of Americans. You are the ones who answered when you were called to serve.....You are the ones who fought bravely and endured a terrible war in a terrible place. You are the ones for whom the words duty. .honor. country have real meaning because you have lived those words and the meaning behind those words. You are my brothers in arms....and I am not ashamed to say that I love you, would not trade one of you for a whole trainload of instant Canadians.....or a whole boatload of Rhodes Scholars bound for England......or a whole campus full of guys who turned up for their draft physicals wearing panty hose. On behalf of a country that too easily forgets the true cost of war.....and who pays that price....I say Thank you for your service! On behalf of the people of our country who didn't have good sense enough to separate the war they hated from the young warriors they sent to fight that war.....I say we are sorry. We owe you all a very large apology.....and a debt of gratitude that we can never adequately repay. For myself and all my buddies in the Infantry I say: Thanks for all the rides in and out....especially the rides out. It is great to see you all gathered here for this reunion. A friend of mine, Mike Norman, a former Marine grunt....wrote a wonderful book called "These Good Men" about his quest to find and reunite with all the survivors of his platoon from Vietnam. He thought long and deep about why we gather as we have done this evening and he explained it thusly: I now know why men who have been to war yearn to reunite. Not to tell stories or look at old pictures. Not to laugh or weep. Comrades gather because they long to be with the men who once acted their best.....men who suffered and sacrificed.....who were stripped raw......right down to their humanity. I did not pick these men. They were delivered by fate and the military. But I know them in a way I know no other men. I have never given anyone such trust. They were willing to guard something more precious than my life. They would have carried my reputation.....the memory of me. It was part of the bargain we all made.....the reason we were so willing to die for one another. As long as I have memory I will think of them all.....every day. I am sure that when I leave this world....my last thought will be of my family and my comrades.......such good men. I'm going to shut up now and let us all get down to the real business of drinking and lying.....er.....telling war stories. Thank you. I salute you. I remember you. I will teach my sons the stories and legends about you. And I will warn my daughters never ever to go out with aviators...... Good evening. God bless...
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 03:55:22 (MST)

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Gently, I'll bid 25 on the walking stick, if it's not too late
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 10:21:34 (MST)

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Ken,I will soon get with Ron Payne about the lunch . At present,we have family friends over from Australia whom have just arrived.( 1st time in America) They will be leaving sometime late next week.Chuckle, one of the first places I took them ,was to that great Amirican icon,wallmart.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 03:38:20 (MST)

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well guy time to sleep or try to now budy to talk to went to the doc & the pace maker running 66% of the timegot to the va doc to put me back on trazodone300mg to let me sleep I have gorn down from a 48 to a 44 in waist size oct to now keep going I will be back to the size I was in my first time in nam & going into tunnel they cant find some thing to slow my inside down jack up hart med it help some.well take car art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, Ga. USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 02:04:09 (MST)

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Gently, Merry Christmas and as they say the check is in the mail... I sent a donation in the mail this morning so that can go up. All take care and HAPPY HOLIDAYS as well. What is up on an Indy Lunch Alvis??
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 21:11:53 (MST)

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100 bucks for the tail rotor chain
pete nolen <cobrabaron@cox.net>
maurice, la USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 20:36:37 (MST)

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Ok..the pictures are gone for $100 each. Congrats K and B. I will keep the bracelet and walking stick up for one more week....4:30 on Dec 15th. That's it. Bid is at $10 on each. I should have taken them. Damn. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 15:24:32 (MST)

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Agreed Robbie. L-J
Gently
USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 14:39:14 (MST)

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The Bidding WAR.....ends up its just a pain ball war. Picture 1: $100, Picture 2: $100 Rotor Chain Bracelet: $0, Walking Stick: $0. Donations sent to me so far: $0. What's up? In 90 minutes the bids close. Our beautiful prints drawn by our one and only Aussie will go for a mere $100 each. I'll bid $10 on the bracelet and walking stick..robbery, I know. Are you in or not? L-Gently
Gentlyjs
USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 14:10:06 (MST)

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Happy Birthday Fred. I hope everyone is doing ok. I got back from Virginia Wednesday. Went to a very nice Eulogy for my Brother. Some people spoke but I could not. I wouldn't have been able to get the words out. Everyone seemed ok until they played a song that he sang while in his band. Everyone was crying by the time that was done. My truck went over 100,000 miles while on the way back, and I had to replace the alternator. My battery idiot light started to flicker and I noticed that the gage was on low so I checked it and it was only putting out 11.5 volts. $153.00 later, and I have a new one. Well, I've got to get a fire started to keep warm and I've got a Manhattan club meeting tonight, so I have to get ready for that. Merry Christmas to everyone..... Screw that happy holidays crap....>Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 12:31:51 (MST)

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Happy Birthday brother. How is the VA coming along? Bug them service officers. Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 07:02:26 (MST)

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HI I think I call it a night got to get up 530 to get Scooter for the day he make my day well take care Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 01:48:18 (MST)

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Evening Flight, I have had a very good evening here. I was feeling like calling Lt Lackey who I had made a mistake writing down his number, While checking contacts to see my mistake I notice WO Lee Hendrix, AKA "Lead Ass" and called him at 6:00 and got off the phone after 9:00 PM. I remembered him because no one wanted to fly with him after getting shot down twice within a few days. So if anyone reading this was in 1st Plt mid 1972 he hooked up a tape recorder to the intercom. I asked him if he still had that and he said it was still setting there. So he is going to try and get it copied to his computer because I want a copy. Second if we could get it on the sight somewhere it would be great as it has the mission recorded through the gunner and crew chief both being hit by the same 51 round and I think until after the crash and transmission seezing up. I mentioned another incident with Capt Furgason and he said he was with him when they were shot down. Also were looking at the sight at the same time and hope he will check it out again as I am hoping he can make it to one of the get togethers. Ron Paye will remember him for sure.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 20:26:19 (MST)

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happy birthday, freddy my man
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 20:16:02 (MST)

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My momma caught hell on December,7,1950.........I was born....LOL
Fred Skaggs
Summit, NJ USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 15:13:19 (MST)

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May God Bless all those who endured this terrible day in 1941, Especially those who "Gave All" There. A silent Prayer. And never forget. God Bless you all too>>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan , wy USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 11:55:16 (MST)

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Hi guy have some of you tried that va advantage card is it ok or not some ome let me know Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
hogansville, GA. USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 11:26:01 (MST)

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as some of you know, and are in the same boat,I served with two different units while taking in our free vacation in that tropical paradise. I was just visting that units ,,,lets say..gathering place,for use of a better word. Someone had posted ,last nov. (yea,its that active) and ask if anyone remembers a grass fire around july 4th of 72, down near the flight line ( 60th ahc). Well boys,I had to smile. You guys know me and my fun loving ways.Me and some fellers were shooting off 50 cal tracers (mini morters),when one of them was a very "short round". Well,let me tell you,when that smoke and fire started gathering strenght,and the ROKs in the near by guard tower started yelling at the top of their lungs,we ran like a company of NVA was after us.Damn,thats still funny today,as i look back at the foolishness we did.Smoke billowing out over the guard tower,the ROKs didnt know whether to abanden their post or get fried,and just yelling like crazy.dun lia ,dun lia,cho hoi ,cho hoi my ass,feet dont let me down now.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 22:24:26 (MST)

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ahhhhhhhh, she has arrived and played doctor PC.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 21:24:41 (MST)

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waiting for susan to get home from work....my pc aint stinking working, but hers is heheheh. she is pretty good at fixing the darn thing. Mark, went down and applied for passport today,supposed to take 2 weeks.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 19:16:52 (MST)

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Good afternoon Flight and the Indy locals. I would really enjoy a meeting soon so I can learn more about what is going on with everyone. The site has really been jogging memories but there are many holes in them. I seem to remember the radio guy, or one being Cpl Kim. Again about half of them were named Kim. I remember a bunch fighting over getting in the aircraft and an officer telling a guy to get out. My first thought of a Korean Art 15 was when the offier took the guys helmet and in one stroke flipped it over and smashed him in the face. Than the guy falling out of the aircraft face down. There were so many missions and CAs that I wish there was more history. Now it is hoping to talk to someone that will say they remember the same incident. I am sorry we don't have any list of wounded or mission information. I guess I will have to wait for the book, LOL
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 14:42:16 (MST)

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Bruno, in my recent talks with the ROKs,one of them came in and said he has written a story about it. another says he hada good friend kia on 426,and listed his name.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 13:18:44 (MST)

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Alvis, good morning. Happy Holidays to you & yours. Same to the rest of the 'ya. Bernie recently "retired" from Hill AFB & doesn't have a "schedule".I don't think has has access to a PC. Thank for the info on the two "ROK's". I can/t count the number of time that I "see" the ROKs in the cabin pushing out the boxes of C-rats over the LZ but I can never "see" their faces. As for the picture of the slick, I've viewed it quite a few times. It could be 426, but I dont think it is. I did paint the tail stinger white & the vents on the engine cowling were also painted white; the doors of 426 didn't have 129 painted on them. The slick on the picture appears to have some "nose art". I cant make it out. that slick may be another "dawg" slick that was also working the rok FSB. E'nuff Said Dawg 426 out.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, Tx USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 07:59:41 (MST)

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Greetings from "PROOF POSITIVE ACRES". We are in the cabin now. I call it that because this is what you can get with faith in the Lord and 40 years of hard work. Do I deserve it? Absolutly not. I consider it a blessing. Start planing on that "129th Mini Major Mini" here in Ohio the weekend after the 4th of July 2007 here at the cabin. More details to come later.New address is as follows, 5029 St. Anthony Road, Celina, Ohio 45822.........new email is fourfour (AT)=@ hometowncable.net......drop the (AT)=.;I love you guys and wish only the best for all of you. I sure wish there was more I could do about all the VA stuff you struggle with. That breaks my heart to read about so much of a hard time you guys have with all that stuff of trying to prove you were in combat. It's a shame man...........Pete, good to see your post. hang in there brother. As many as you can, try and make it to Ohio in July. It's wide open for all.......I love you all.......clear right..........Fred A. will talk with you soon about the trip to the UK....................always a brother...........
Mark
USA - Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 20:39:29 (MST)

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Ken, I have not been able to find detailed records of wounded. However, the book I'm working on will have the info on the KIA/MIAs for the unit. Bill
Bill Wolf
USA - Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 10:46:54 (MST)

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Paul, thanks for clearing that up but sorry for your situation. By the way I knew a CE named Webb that was in the 498th and have a patch somewhere that he gave me. After my PTSD group today I am not sure what to tell anyone. There were four of us that just got our rating for PTSD within the last six weeks. While all talking about that it seemed that is no clear cut thing that the VA looks for. I have also been thinking about all the talk about the KIAs and aircraft history for the 129th. I would like to see the list of all the wounded in the unit if that is somewhere because that is a bunch of the history of what we did. I can't even remember those names right and I am sure that if you were not there you the day it happened and in another platoon would miss hearing about it. Some that I remember if I spell them right is Carzales, Lee and Ratclif. I remember a Dust Off which had over a hundred holes in it and several of our Huey's plus a Cobra being shot up. If we could find all the people we could get a better history.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 20:46:19 (MST)

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Ken; meant to get back to you before this but haven't had power for a couple of days. guess i'm lucky tho people south of here may not get it back for a week. i wasn't with 129th i was with 498th dustoff, and what i was refering to was when 44th med brigade stood down along witha number of other med units. they hadn't kept records for a long time and had to bring in extra clerks to make up records so they could pass inspection and be able to stand down.as far as looking for me on any orders don't because it won't be there. we went out on missions as volunteer gunners when they had hot missions. that gave the medic time to handle patients.we couldn't draw flight pay or even get an air medal as we weren't supposed to be carrying weapons on the bird. my mos was a cook but i only got to do that for a short time at 8th field hospital in nha trang. got sent to 51st med company in qui nhon and was a litter bearer. 51st loaned me to 498th but there was never any orders so i got screwed on that. after 5 months got sent back to battalion cause i told them i wasn't doing that any more. spent the last 2 months on guard duty at battalion in qui nhon. maybe that will explain a little about why i say records were not kept and also falsified.i looked up one of the clerks that made up the records and as soon as he was done they shipped him to plei djerang to a fire base just inside the vietnamese border.nice way for them to get rid of him in case questions were asked.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 18:30:55 (MST)

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animal,condolences from Sue and I.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 16:12:55 (MST)

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Hi Animal Glenda & Me are in yours pray for you.
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 13:48:09 (MST)

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Animal, our condolences to you and your family. Prayers sent out.
Dave
USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 07:25:26 (MST)

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Bernie...I have been talking to the ROKs.Of late,we have been talking about the pic of the bird hovering in/and your crash (426)in the An Khe Pass.I am not sure if this guy took the pic,but this is what happened to his friend, on board with you.... CPL Chung Woon-seop, a chopper crew member was also killed in action due to the crash. CPL Chung is peacefully resting at the Dongjak-dong National Cemetery in Seoul, Korea. Every year on Veterans' Day of June 6, I visit his grave and stand for a minute for silent tribute to the brave comrade...Hwang, Jin-soon:
alvis
USA - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 05:17:52 (MST)

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Wayne, Welcome home... I was at Lane Field (Crewed & Maint) from May 67-May 68, but, don't recall any names you mentioned. Alvis, I might take you up on the offer. What's the latest discussion on a Christmas "get-to-gether" (breakfast, brunch) with the other locals? Mark, Ron, Rainer, Ken.....how 'bout it? Hey Rainer, missed you & Dee at Kokomo. I still have Dee's dish that you left here last May. Marky Mark, do you have a new address for your house yet? Let me know what addy you are using for the holidays. FLIGHT, as you know I have been sending out my homemade Christmas ornaments for the last few years. I make them thin enough to fit inside a card to avoid paying extra postage. Call me a tightwad, but, I have to keep costs down. I'm retired from the US Postal Service, but, they don't give me a discount. Heehehee Anyway, if you received an ornament last year and your address has changed, please let me know right away, so, it's not returned to me. On the same token, if you don't want them sent to you please let me know......no hard feelings. In general, they seem to be well received and I enjoy doing it. If any newbies want one just let me know. My e-mail is above, just leave off the parenthesis. Thanks, Gale
Gale 67-68 <burdman(@)sbcglobal.net>
Clinton, In US of A - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 13:51:45 (MST)

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Animal, Sorry to hear & at the same time celebrate the life of an Obviously great man who completed all his missions, Glad the quake didn't get to ya>>>>Love & respects>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
Sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 11:51:24 (MST)

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goodmorning brothers,I to am going to the VA,again,I say that because, I was there in the 75 trying, to find out what was wrong,I WAS HAVING A REALLY BAD TIME,all they wanted to do was lock me down,I did agree to out patient care, all that was to have some shrink put me on Librium,an that relly made things BAD? not good, so that dint last long, and I quit going, finaley got help outside,thanks to my work,had alot of nam vets for bosses,and they helped me, I cant never thank them enough,the one died of agent orange, and the rest retired, but am still there so far??? me and the new shit heads dont get along,so I went back to the VA,just for about 7 months,and what a change they are actuley helping me,they have just put me in group, and I am going to give it 100%, I to have a claim in but owney since May, I seen on my 214 they have my MOS as 67a1F? and the Air Medal has 2 O/C,but I have my flight record, but I dint send a copy,I will let all know what happens with that,but I really hope for the best for Alex, and all the rest, that have a claim in, we all went threw are own little Hell, that we need to try to understand, and Alvis, the Hell part is what I ment when I was talking to Mark at Kokamo. I dint meen the good parts, we were all part of something that made us what we are now, and we need to always respect all that we call Brothers, that is ALL that severd, and All that gave All, I still do all I can, for the homeless, and the hurting, there for a while, I forgot about myself, but I think I am on the right track??? BUT ALL of 129th will forever be deep in my heart. Always A Brother Pete Rhome 69/70 on the 216
pete rhome <bulldog216@sbcglobal.net>
cleveland, USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 11:45:49 (MST)

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Greg, my condolences.
Bruno E Sanchez
Laredo, TX USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 11:23:34 (MST)

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Good Morning All! Sorry I haven't posted lately. Couple things. BOOK UPDATE: Okay, I've got a great book except for one small tiny detail: there's about 4 years of missing history!!! I've tried every source I can think of and it seems that what I have is all there is on file - or so I'm told. So, here's the plan (Speak up if you have ideas): Am going to have a general history overview and then focus on the stories and poems and MIA/KIA info and lots of photos. My goal is to have the book ready by the next VHCMA reunion in Orlando. I'm open to any other suggestions. Next item: PHOTOS: If you haven't looked at the photo identification page, please do so and let me know if you recognize anyone (or yourself) - http://www.wolfcms.com/Vday.html (its case sensitive so make sure you use a capital "V" on the Vday.html). LAST ITEM - what is this (for lack of a better word) crap about us not being a combat unit??! I'm serious, if someone could send me an email explaining what this is about and if they (assuming the VA) is saying this, someone needs to get that straightened out (and I have a few connections). Okay, LAST LAST ITEM: Gently, how's the bidding going. Is there a way to see what the latest bids are? Thanks! Bill Wolf
Bill Wolf <vnheloreunion@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 09:37:06 (MST)

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Morning Flight, To anyone trying to get your info. You can see your complete records any time you need to. The best thing is if you have a Rep and can make an appt with him and he will get your records for you to look at. If not the VA will let you make an appt to do the same. My records are over a foot deep and have looked through them several times. If you are close enough to go, make the trip. I have no flight records and my medical is missing from 71 to 77. I started with the VA before I got out of the Army in 83. It is like accident / incident reports are not in your files, you have to find out where they are. I spent two years getting one that was about three hundred pages just to get the VA to give a rating because my medical didn't show how I was injured. My last words, DON'T EVER GIVE UP!!
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 07:53:59 (MST)

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Hi guys, just checking in. Alex, you've got to get hold of your flight records! It lists as "Type of mission"--"C.A." for all your hours! The VA has your records, and the vet center has the request for records form. Good luck. No permanent quake damage for me, and lots of exellent surf lately. I'm going to be in Dallas area around new years for a memorial service in case any of you are nearby. My Dad passed away Nov 17th on his 88th birthday. A WW2 vet with seven children who all survived him. I think that's all a parent can ask. Best wishes and good luck to all....Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 19:42:56 (MST)

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Hi Guy just put up the tree in the dinning room between the two windows I am 5F10" tall & the center of the room is 12f tall I told the wife next time going get a some help . I got the movie & it was Operation Pacific with John Wayn & it start with them picking up the kids mother & Nuns & I got my DAD order giving them a medal for the hole ship & how told me that was the one THANK A BUNCH Art
ArthurEFoster <tigerwagon@msn.com>
Hogansville, GA. USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 17:01:28 (MST)

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oh,i forgot. Gale,I am on vacation the 6th thru the 13th. The 5th thru the 11th, workers at Lowes get 20% off.If it will save you some bucks,come on over.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 13:12:04 (MST)

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Gale,I recall you inquiring about 1/8 inch plywood,when we were in Kokomo,for use in restoring your pull behind. Lowes carries several plywoods(paneling) that thick,and some of it is pretty light weight.I just bought a sheet and thought of you.Theres some very nice "classic pine" knotty, that just might be the ticket for your needs. It cost 16 bucks a sheet,4x8x1/8.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 13:06:47 (MST)

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I am looking for my good buddy Truman Mills.....I need to visit with you! Wayne
Wayne E. Brown <sonielikeasong@valornet.com>
Hominy, Ok USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 12:30:25 (MST)

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I am looking for David Gillstrap.... I would appreciate any information...we served together in 1966-1967 Thank you! Wayne
Wayne E. Brown <sonielikeasong@valornet.com>
Hominy, Ok USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 12:00:59 (MST)

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Thanks Kim, I forwarded it on. Mark,what time to you want to set up the 3 way call?
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 11:02:48 (MST)

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I have been talking to Phil and the Tiger Roks,about the 2 pictures from their web site.One picture is of particular interest to me,and a few in here.It was taken during the "Battle for An Khe Pass", in april of 72.We lost bird 426 in that fight.The ROKs lost 75 of their guys.Anyway, the pic is of a hovering slick,throwing out supplies onto the ROK fire base at the top of that pass.Now,as I recall,we only threw out supplies like that due to the threat of eminate enemy fire.Burnie,could this be a picture of the 426,perhaps days before? I cant make out the tail numbers but can see 129th on the door. The pic can be seen on phils site or on the Korean site. Anyone remember this mission? The pic was taken by a ROK at the firebase.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 06:54:33 (MST)

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If you have a contact tel No for him I will give him a call to discuss this. It does not have to be detailed, I just want Visitors to our site to be able read the brief details about you guys, Probably 2 pages? or so
ALvis
USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 18:30:38 (MST)

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Alvis, Most likely we see some of the same people, My primary care is on the 8th floor, Carol Gardner. I will be there for my PTSD group Monday which meets from 10:30 till noon, then have an appt with Doctor Wagner the shrink. So I am down there about once a week so maybe we can get together. I will also be at the VA for appts on the 11th & 12th. My email is Ken7776 and that is @aol.com if you might be free. My oldest son lives on the South side so sometimes go on a Sunday and spend the night with my grandson.
Ken Strong Jr 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 11:32:01 (MST)

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First, Paul you there when the unit stood down? What Platoon were you with? My 201 file showed when I was assigned to the 129th as a 67N20 UH-1 Repairmen and nothing after that. So the VA said it just showed I was there but not that I ever left the hanger. The -13s were only kept for six months and the -12s for a year so that doesn't help anyone. I don't have have any idea where the flights records went but there was a copy of the summery in my finance records, if you remember flight ops had to provide flight hours so we could get paid. They used that to make up new records for me at Fort Campbell after getting home. I never talked to St Louis about the pay records, but they should be somewhere that you can request them. So that should show where your check went and flight pay from Nam. Please check that out too. I checked my Air Medal order and your name was not on them. I need to check my MicroFic to see if you are anywhere else.
Ken Strong Jr. 72-73
Lafayette, IN USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 11:15:22 (MST)

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SORRY I GOT IT ALL MIXED UP ON THE BEFORE THE THIS ONE. WHAT IAM TRYING TO SAY GET BILLS PERMISSION TO USE THE VIDIO OF ALL THE MEN KIA AND MIS . IM OUR COMPANY ALONE WE HAD MANY, AND THATS NT COUNTINGALL THE OTHERS. WE ARE THE 129th AHC PERHAPS IF THE VA PEOPLE SEEN IT MAY UNDERSTAND, SORRY FOR THE ONE BEFORE IT DIDNT MAKE SENICE, II WAS TRYING TO HARD TO HELP A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 10:46:37 (MST)

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HELLO FLIGHT. I BEEN READING ABUT ALL THE ONES THAT THE VA SAYS THAT WE WERE NOT A COMBAT MISSIN. PERHAPS WE COUDASK BILL WOLF PERMISSION TO USE THE PART OF THE KIA AND MIA HE HAS LISTED ON HS SIGHT IF THAT DONT PROVE WE A COMB MISSION THEN HOW DID WELOSE AL THEOSE MEN, AND THATS JUST THE 129th GET THE VA TO SEE IT, IT JUST A THOUGHT AFTER WE WERE OT CALLED 129th AHC FOR NOTHING. IAM STILL BATTALING THE VA TO PROVE GAIL AND I HAVE A VITIAL MARRAGE TO BE POWER OF ATTONERY. WE DID IT WITH A LAWEY, THEN A YEAR LATER .THEY TELL US ITS THE WRONG FRORM. OUR CONGRESS MAS IS WORKING ON IT TO,MY VA CONSLER DIDNT UNDRER STANT SO HE CALLED IT HAS O BE ON SOME KIND OF DDD FORM THEY SHOULD HAVE SEEN THAT A YEAR AGO. IN 6 - 8 WEEKS THE VA ARE COMMING OVE. I GUESS I GOT TO EXECPET ITI WISH YOU ALL LUCK ON THE COMBAT THING.I REALY THINK BILLLS CDS WITH THE ALL THE NAMES WHO HAVE BEEN KIA/MIA MAY SHOW THEM JUST MY THOUGHT, A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY' OH GENTLY HAVE YOU HAD TIME TO LISEN TO THE CDSI KNOW YOU WHEN YOU HAVE TIME.RICK NICE TALKING TO YOU LAST NIGHT THANKS RAY
raygail
md USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 09:56:29 (MST)

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alex; not only were records not kept but they were also falsified to pass the ig inspections so a unit could stand down.i am having problems with that myself. i went as far as tracking down the clerk. he said that the va is aware of it and just doesn't care.there is very little way to change records and nobody wants to get involved with it.acording to army records i was never at lane, must have been a bad dream,a 5 month long bad dream.i have just given up. never liked them va a holes anyway. got a blizzard going on here, got about 9 inches on the ground and more on the way. stay warm and safe out there.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 07:10:02 (MST)

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Flight: Well alot of commo about the VA. I'm not through with them by a long shot!! Unless the people whom review. Flew in Vietnam as part of a Assualt helicopter unit. And I don't think they did. I know from 1965 thru 1968. There wasn't alot of records being kept, like the military wanted it to be done. Some people don't realize that there was a War going on. In the early years, we moved everywhere. We were tdy to alot of different units, that needed our support. Enough said. I thinks it a Honor that Phil has one of our aircraft. And, want to get as much info he can to document the aircraft. there is alot of us from the 65/66 era that tell about what it was like in the beginning. The unit didn't become operational until Dec.1965. Then it was the 129th Avation Co. Alvis, find out what Phil wants and I know between all of us we can get it together. First day back to work!! High yesterday 71 today 37. Hope there isn't much outside work. Always A Brother!! Ranier,Ray and Don good talking to you all.
Alex
USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 06:59:43 (MST)

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The air medal citation does say you supported combat ground forces. It also says During this time he actively participated in more than 25 arial missions over hostile territory in support of combat operations. This is just part of it. This is a citation by direction of the president. If you guys can get this or find it. It was sent to me shortly after I got home from RVN. Check with the service officer if this can be obtained at St louis. I think it will help in your claims. Also get that DD 215 update of medals. Don't give up flight and be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 06:42:30 (MST)

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Ken, I live in Avon ( west indy) and go to the same hospitial as you,maybe see the same docs.The same VA folks you see are also telling me its not a combat MOS...sigh,I think its just another fence we have to jump...what a bunch of anal pores the are.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 04:48:47 (MST)

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