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Just checking in to let you know that my Family and I are all alive and well here in Thailand. I would also like to extend a special thanks to all who are sending the much needed aid to the victoms off this disaster. best wishes to all for 2005-------Joe
Joe Johnson <cobra073@yahoo.com>
Chiang Mai, Thailand - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 23:03:47 (MST)

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We went to breakfast at a restaurant where the "retiree's special" was two eggs, bacon, hash browns and toast for $1.99. "Sounds good," my wife said. "But I don't want the eggs." "Then I'll have to charge you two dollars and forty-nine cents because you're ordering a la carte," the waitress warned her. "You mean I'd have to pay for not taking the eggs?" My wife asked incredulously. "I'll take the special." "How do you want your eggs?" "Raw and in the shell," my wife replied. She took the two eggs home
Rick
USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 21:57:55 (MST)

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Animal, could you please send me your address. Thanks Rick
Rick <RickardAllanJensen@cox.net>
USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 21:27:46 (MST)

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Good to see you post, Dennis. You're one of the people I remember from Lane. I do believe we flew together ocaisionally. Best wishes to ALL of you for the coming year. Be careful, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 13:32:31 (MST)

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Thanks Ken and Kathy. George, I sent out your DVD this morning. Should have it by Monday at the latest. Catch ya later. Rick Jensen
Rick
USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 11:39:34 (MST)

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Hi Folks,haven't written in a while,been just reading.As I look back on the last year I can really say that it was was busy. Had a new house built, wife and I changed to different jobs, both had a major surgery, and survived 3 hurricanes. Maybe, just maybe 2005 will be a little less busy. Wishing one and all a HAPPY NEW YEAR. Dennis 71-72
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, FL USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 06:09:26 (MST)

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Rick Jensen, Paul forwarded us a copy we received on Christmas Eve. We have already seen and enjoyed the movie ourselves. We have had grandbabies with us for the last two weeks, so I havent done much but spend special time with them. A check will be in the mail tomorrow to you so that you can send those dvds to someone who wants them and it will surprise. Paul insisted that I send the money to you so it will be there sometime next week. Thank you and Paul for all the time you have put into this. Since Kenneth was from the 498th he did remember many of the faces on the dvd. MAY THIS YEAR BE THE HAPPIEST NEW YEAR OF EACH OF YOUR LIVES. My heart goes out to those in need of prayers and I have you in my thoughts most every day. Hang in there and live every day to its very best and you will be blessed for many days more to come. Even though I dont know any of you personally, I still feel like a part of your little family. HAPPY NEW YEARS
Ken and Kathy < >
South Point , OH USA - Friday, December 31, 2004 at 02:46:34 (MST)

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Ken and Kathy, Have those DVDs ready for you anytime. Just let me know where to send them. You can send the check later. Take care and have a Happy New Years.
Rick <RickardAllanJensen@cox.net>
Clovis, NM USA - Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 14:59:46 (MST)

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Flight and flightlettes:>)) I'm going to be out of contact until Monday, so at this time I want to say from the deepest core(muscle) of my heart, that knowing you and communicating with you throughout 2004, has been an undeserving blessing. Little did i know that by knowing one 129er many years ago, I would now have a family that is so beautiful, caring, and loving. For 2005, i pray for your health and for our continued friendships. The love you have for this family is shown not only on this site, but at re-unions, and in your generous giving to the Christmas Fund. We will have a little over $2000.00 this year....see what i mean about generosity! And some of you who donated I don't even know: you don't post but you certainly care. I wish I could share your names with everyone, but I can't. just know that I know and treasure that knowledge.....and that you and all who donated are special angels. For those of you who gave the $10's and $20's:>)))))))))))) trust that it made a difference. For those who couldn't contribute...we understand, we understand. Mr. Fred Alvis, nice job on moving ahead to make us official, and thank you for including we flightlettes in the organization. It's wonderful that we can feel we are part of it. You know we want to be. Having said all that, which is probably too much, may you all be surrounded by healing hands and love in 2005. Pray for Peace...pray for the thousands who have lost everything because of the recent tsusami...and count your blessings no matter how small. With great love-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 08:03:00 (MST)

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Mark, I e-mailed Joe a couple of nights ago and nothing has been returned!? Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 06:41:40 (MST)

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I'm working on the stupid adds we been getting in here lately such as the one below...sorry about that stuff....I left a message at Joe Johnsmans e-mail addy last night and it came back with an error. Anybody else have info on him. man that stuff over there is really bad stuff. Those waves and earthquakes. bad stuff man, signs of the end.
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 06:32:19 (MST)

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HELLO ALL. FRIST I WAS SUPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT GAIL AND KRIS WERE BIDDING ON THE BRACLET. I WEARE IT ALL THE TIME. NOW AS TO KNOW IF IT FITS NOT SURE I CAN PUT A FINGER THREW THE BOTTOM. BUT IT FEELS OK I DONT THINK I SHOULD MAKE IT TO TOGHT IN CASE I GET MY WEIGHT BACK, NOT SURE WHAT TO DO I SENT DON A MAIL I MAY HAVE CONFUSED HIM SORRY DON. WELL JAN 11th I HO FOR MY SECOND BIOPSEY TO COMFRIM THE PROPASTE CANSER I LET YOU ALL KNOW ONE THING I MA GLAD TO HAVE THE BRACLET HECK BETWEEN THAT AND THE WALKING STICK MARK MADE ME I AM ONE LUCKY MAN I THANK YOU ALL. I BEST GO WAITING FOR CALLS FROM DRs I BE IN TEX SEE YOU ALL THERE ALVIS AND ROB AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO ARE SICK THAT I DONT KNOW MY PRAYES ARE WITH YOU ALL LOVE YOU ALL A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY BE SAFE. OH GENTLY KEEP YOUR SHOVEL OUT SMILING KIDDING MORE SNOW COMING LOL LOVE YA TO MY SISTER ;-))). oh rob thanks for posting made this easer for me take care my brother . rick and alex how are you ding and mark and gale and debbie and kal and ron paye and my friend ccc .and all the ones i missed may your new year be the best and all your dreams come true well at least most of them \love you all a brother always RAY
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 10:45:11 (MST)

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I should have a rough draft of the by laws by thursday next week.I will pass it along for your inputs before I submit it for goverenment approval.Honestly,I am stealing it from a non profit group.I am changing it somewhat to fit the needs of "Veterans non-profit org." forms and to our group.Shrug, I am not a rocket sciencetist,just muddeling along. At the reunion in indy,we discussed this somewhat and most agreed to 20 dollar dues..is this still viable?The law says the org. must be 75% "past or present members of the service or 97.5% must be past or present service members,widows,widowers,cadets,or spouses.Of the remaining.90%,they must be cadets,widows.widowers,ancestors or lineal decendent of vets.No more than 2.5% may consist of people who are not under the above.I think we pretty well meet that ,including ALL of our sisters out there.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 10:35:52 (MST)

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Also, I did e-mail Joe and it wasn't returned to me, so....... Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 08:53:18 (MST)

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Flight, Joe Johnson (a 129th brother) is living somewhere in Thailand as of our last contact from him. Please keep him in our prayers as we watch all of the destruction caused by the earthquake & flooding. Hopefully we'll hear from him soon. Ray, congrats on getting the bracelet...wear it proudly. I brought one home with me, but, I have no idea where it disappeared to. Nice day here in Indiana.....close to 50 and most of the snow almost melted away. Debbie goes for her colonostopy (routine) on Monday. Not having any problems...she's 55, so, I guess it's time. Best of health to you all this coming year. Clear, Gale
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Wednesday, December 29, 2004 at 08:51:26 (MST)

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Congrats Ray, I know you will wear the bracelet with pride. I used to have one years ago and I remember what a thrill it was whenever I met someone that knew what it was! Once I ran into an old school buddy (I didn't know he had even been in the Army) OOgie Johnson. It turns out he was a crew chief in Nam and not only recognized what my bracelot was; but he was wearing a ring he had made with the gear that drove the chain. Cool! Best wishes to all. New Years is coming up pretty quickly. They shoot off tons of fireworks over here and I have to hide out for a couple of days. ..................... Aloha, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 20:53:17 (MST)

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Kieth, Only received 2 pictures. The one from RVN and the other the band.
Ri <RickardAllanJensen@cox.net>
Clovis, NM USA - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 17:06:48 (MST)

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Rick, did you get that CONFEDERATE picture I sent you? Keith 72-73
Keith
USA - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 16:19:23 (MST)

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David and Louis, I received your letters today and I will get the DVDs in the mail tomorrow. Louis, I will put a few bucks in the cd holder. You sent way too much. Have a Happy New Years. If anyone wants to get ahold of me online my MSN Messenger user is like my email but change the last to hotmail.com and I do have a cam if you want to get a look at me. That could be scarry!!!!! Take care
Rick <RickardAllanJensen@cox.net>
Clovis, NM USA - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 14:28:40 (MST)

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Hello flight. I spoke to Ray yesterday, and he wanted me to tell everyone that he is the winner of the Tail Rotor Bracelet. He said he really likes it and wears it every day. His wife is the one behind this, and I believe he said his daughter Kris was bidding on the bracelet in her behalf. He wasn't sure if it was too loose or not and was asking me about it. I told him I figured it was up to the individual. Some people like things loose and some don't. I asked him if it had one of the catches like our watches did at that time and he said yes. I told him he could probably move the pin in that one or two holes and it would tighten up. He doesn't think he can do that without losing the pin. Don Miller, he wanted to know how people should wear them. Maybe you could send him an email to let him know? His email is stilwating#aol.com I didn't spell any of that wrong, I just put the # in for the @ sign. Christmas for me was good. Spent it with my daughter and Grandkids. Still fighting a cold. Hope everyone else is doing good....Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 at 14:20:34 (MST)

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Some info on Spence.......Steve Spencer.........419-339-0684......spence173@earthlink.net I'll get his home address tomorrow
Mark
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 19:49:40 (MST)

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Jim Hydinger, Happy Birthday buddy.....where's that bio? Gale
Gale
Clinton, In USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 09:20:48 (MST)

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Rick, what's his home address for cards? L-G
Gently
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 08:12:38 (MST)

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Happy Birthday yesterday Jim Hydinger!!!! L-G
Gently
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 08:11:15 (MST)

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I have one more thing to say brothers that know Swashplate he just got out of the hospital had heart surgery and new plastic viens in leg. cobra070@earthlink.net E-mail Lost some toes in the process. He is feeeling better.
Rick England
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 08:02:29 (MST)

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Thanks for the pics Fred******Gently I think his name is Joe Johnson.*****Mark is there smething we can do about the ads on the logbook I will pay for it?**************YOu guys in the snow be careful out there**** Everybody be careful out there New years.
Rick England
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 07:56:45 (MST)

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Mark, could we have Spence's address again. I'm sure there are some who would like to send him a card of encouragement and love. And Fred, any update on Susan? No word from Cups lately, and is Jim Johnson in SE Asia again? Haiti is still nuts, and SE Asia was hit with some devastating and huge waves due to an underwater earthquake, so if anyone can find out about our friends, please do and let us know. L-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 06:45:59 (MST)

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that was Spence's posting from the 173rd guestbook.he has the cancer.Sorry about any confusion.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 27, 2004 at 03:21:06 (MST)

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Sorry about that.
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 21:35:27 (MST)

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Alvis.....thanks for posting Smitty's prayer for Spence on the 173rd Herd Guestbook. Rick, I think the post Alvis did was Spence's from the Herd Website......Right Fred A.?....Arthur, Good to see your post. God Bless you.....
Mark
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 19:42:50 (MST)

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Alvis, Sorry to hear the news but glad you have not thrown in the towel. There are many alternative treatments you hear about and so many sucess cases. I pray you will over come this.
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 19:25:14 (MST)

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Want to wish all my 129th friends a Happy New Year.
arthur w. campbell <cardale5@aol.com>
cardale, pa USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 18:28:30 (MST)

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Mahalo Alvis, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 17:34:03 (MST)

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Rick, Got your picture too....I remember you....Thanks..
Keith 72-73
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 15:46:13 (MST)

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Thanks for the call Kieth. Received the picture fine. Have a Happy New Years.
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 15:04:01 (MST)

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Well time for additional bad news. Yes we have found out that my cancer is terminial and my days are numbered. the cancer has gone thru my lung and can't be removed. yes i haven't given up and i'm looking at other doctors for different treatment. will keep you posted..... posted on 173rds guestbook site,passed on without comment.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 15:00:42 (MST)

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Thanks Smitty.amen. Animal,CP, I sent the pics in a bundle. You kinda have to look in the background to see things that will surprise you.Sorry that most are dark.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 14:55:30 (MST)

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Spence, although we have not met we all have the same kinship. You have made a decision about the Quality of your life vs Quantity. I Respect that.As a former VA Nurse & temp. chaplain of this outfit, I Ask God in the name of the 129th AHC to Grant you as much of that Quality as you can have as you go down the rest of your journey, May he grant you relief from pain. God Bless you & your Family as you deal with this>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 13:23:47 (MST)

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Spence, although we have not met we all have the same kinship. You have made a decision about the Quality of your life vs Quantity. I Respect that.As a former VA Nurse & temp. chaplain of this outfit, I Ask God in the name of the 129th AHC to Grant you as much of that Quality as you can have as you go down the rest of your journey, May he grant you relief from pain. God Bless you & your Family as you deal with this>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 13:23:41 (MST)

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Alvis, Could you send me pop-a-top pix? I'm at:tatu@gte.net; Mahalo, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 12:42:35 (MST)

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Alex, I did the same thing Fri.(not the automotive thing, thank GOD) On my way to the Mailbox I suddenly ended up horizonal. Knocked the breath out of me but no serious injury, didn't even smack the back of my head. we are about cleared up now though.Best wishes to all.
Keith 72-73
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 11:48:57 (MST)

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Good morning flight! Christmas has come and gone andwe hope everyone had a nice and peaceful day with friends and family. Here in TN we were still iced in so Alex and I spent Christmas Eve and Christmas Day by ourselves, the first time in 16 years. Christmas Eve was very interesting for Alex as he left for work he did a 360 and hit a brick mailbox. The mailbox was unharmed and so was Alex, however his truck is another story. Around noon he decided to venture home for lunch, and on his way back drifted into a ditch and had to be pulled out. He made it back to work and then just before closing at 6pm he went outside to take out the trash and did the "James Brown" slipping and sliding until he ended up on his back. When he arrived home, still in one piece, I took away his keys and locked the doors and we haven't been out since.... Thought you 129ther's would get a laugh out of his Friday the 13th on December 24th!!! Seriously, just thinking of you all today. Take care. Liz & Alex
Alex
Collierville`, TN USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 08:32:24 (MST)

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Jesus,thats a horrible turn for spence.Thanks for info Mark.The pictures I am sending to some of the flight ,have Spence's pic,with you sitting next to him.It wll be a true loss when he passes.for everyone.Mark, I will send you the pics too.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 26, 2004 at 07:17:21 (MST)

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Mess is cleaned up. Grandsons are fast asleep in the other room. They will be here for a few days. Archie Bunker is on next and then to bed. Got one thing to pass on to you all. Those of you who have met Spence at the Pop-A-Top and have seen him post in here. He is our 173rd Airborne Brigade brother. He called me tonight to wish us a Merry Christmas and then told me that he is stoping all kemo treatments. They have told him his cancer is terminal. Says he would wather go through some pain then to spend the last days with his head over a puke bucket. God Bless him and his family. Please keep our brother Spence in your prayers. I love him. He has been a Big Brother to me for a long time.....
Mark
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 20:35:38 (MST)

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Well, i just returned from Vegas where the Wyo Cowboys beat Ucla 24-21 in the Bowl Game. Real crazy as we have gone to bowls but this is the 1st bowl win for Wyo in 40 years. Fred, Thanks for the pics, They are great, you have a lot more snow than us & we need what you have. Mark, is the museum to remain in the Bar? You have done so much nice work. Prayers again for all & Peace. God bless our Troops & America>>>Merry Christmas>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 15:54:10 (MST)

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Alvis, nice pics. Made it to Indy airport & back. No problems other than stopping to help push a young lady out of a ditch. Mark, what happened to our LZ Indy pics? Did you get the CD of Indy that I sent you?? Thanks Liz, I just think of things that I can laminate and that will fit into cards so as not to cost more to mail.....although the Post Office is paying for my retirement. ;o) Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 12:49:10 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to All. With Hope for a Happy New Year of Peace, Happiness and Joy for everyone. Soothsayer 67-68
Tom
Phoenix, USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 10:56:28 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all. You in the Midwest have the right weather for Christmas. Here where we expect snow, we have none. It has been so nice our lawn is still half green. Not bad for South Dakota. Wishing only the REEEEEEALY good stuff for all of you in the new year. Darwin and Cheryl Schmiedt
Flame
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 09:40:00 (MST)

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Christmas,04. A lot of things have happened in our lives this past year, a lot of history has been made, Is it good or bad? Only the future will tell. A time of reflection on things ( and people) past. Remember the good, learn from the bad, and move on with our lives. Merry Christmas to all.
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 09:12:06 (MST)

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I have just sent a few pics of the 129th /pop a top xmas party out to addyys I have.Will send a few more tommorrow. Merry xmas to all.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 08:19:39 (MST)

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As we all share our own family stories and greetings this day, I was just setting here thinking, what a family this 129th bunch is, and the closeness that we have. Joy fills my heart today to see this page with it's Love written all over it. What a miracle. What a miracle.........Merry Christmas........
Mark & Dee
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 06:34:01 (MST)

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to everyone. I am here every morning reading about and enjoying your lives and feeling your sorrows too. I want to thank Paul McGrath for keeping his promise and working so hard to get our dvd to us on christmas eve. Paul called us late wednesday afternoon and told us that he had received our dvd in western illinois that afternoon in his mail. He quickly put it back in the the mail and forwarded it to us hoping we would recieve it by dec 24. PAUL, EVEN WITH ALL THE SNOW AND TERRIBLE WEATHER THAT IM SURE MUST HAVE BEEN RIGHT BEHIND THAT DVD, OUR DVD DID ARRIVE ON FRIDAY EVENING JUST AS WE WERE BEGINNING OUR FAMILY TRADITION OF CHRISTMAS EVE FAMILY PARTY. We live in the very southern part of Ohio, across from Huntington, WV, so when we saw the news telling that the weather had been so hard across Indiana, Illinois and Ohio, we figured that all hopes of getting the dvd on time were gone. Santa sure must have been helping that mailman for it to get to us in two days for sure. Thanks Paul for your tremedous effort to get the dvd out to us on time and yes santa brought Kenneth his dvd player just in time to use it last night. We both enjoyed watching it and I think may have even helped Kenneth have better memories of his tour because he did recognize several faces in the dvd since he was actually in the 498th at those years. Rick a check will be in the mail sometime this week for my dvd and some extra for you to send one to someone else that has might like to have it but might not be able to afford it. We will have both our granddaughters all week, so that check might not get in the mail until they go home to Columbus after the new year. I would also like to share with all of you that Christmas is not just gift giving. Our family has had a tradition of returnig home every Christmas eve to a party and the children open their gifts together. The family has been kept close, the grandchildren now return too with their children, but most of all, for all of my 50 years of life our family of 4 siblings, have always returned to the nest and kept healthy and happy relationship that is the most special thing in the world to all of us. I wish all of you could have the closeness that we enjoy just by making one day a year special in order to keep close for our entire lives. One brother drives 9 hours from NC and one sister drives 5 hours from TN and we still have our mother to enjoy this day. Dad left us over 2 years ago but he did instill the family values of getting home for christmas to be with your family so deeply that I think we will always stay close in heart for the rest of our lives. Brother Keith even managed to get home for Christmas when he was stationed in Korea one year. Thanks to all for sharing your live with us and I hope this long note will encourage at least one person here to try to get their precious family together for one day of the year and keep in touch throughout all the year and have the wonderful time and memories that our familiy has built on for fifty years. Merry Christmas and thanks to Santa--because he surely must have been helping that post office and mailman to get our dvd to us in time for us to share it with our family. Love to all. Ken and Kathy
Ken and Kathy Blevins
South Point, OH USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 03:38:54 (MST)

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Merry Christmas flight.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Saturday, December 25, 2004 at 00:04:21 (MST)

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Well it's just about midnight. The little one decided to sleep at grandma's house. How wonderful. We gathered all the hidden gifts and put them neatly around the tree. Filled the stockings and set them together on the wicker lounge. Everything is now ready for Grandma and Grampa's arrival in the morning with the little one. How great this is not missing these events any more, but it brings to mind those that will miss this holiday with their loved ones. God be with them. Guide and Protect. In Your Name. Happy Holidays.
Rick
USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 23:43:36 (MST)

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Man, look at this big present with wonderful wraping. As I slowly unwrap it I can see that it has many different kinds of wrappings on it and that the box also has many other small boxes inside it. All the boxes seem to have a warm glow coming from them. I wonder what they could be? Hum, as I slowly unwrap these boxes, inside there is a piece of something with a door on it. What the heck? Hum, now that all the boxes are unwraped, and the doors are all a glow I notice that the pieces all fit together. I see it now. The doors each have your names on them. Ok, the pieces are all together now. They make the shape of a heart. It's my heart. Dang it brothers and sisters. Where would I be with out my heart. We love you all. The gift of each of you comes to us everyday. But during the season of giving, God brings you to mind more then ever to us. .........Let us remember the greatest gift of all. The One who was born to die, because he loves us. Faith , Hope , and Love, And the greatest is Love. Where were you that September day when the world stoped turnung? Our prayer for us all is.... Lord....Bless us all indeed, and broaden our borders. Bless the troops on both sides and comfort thier families. Soften the world's leader's hearts and bring about a swift end to war and establish peace around the globe. Hold back the winds at the four corners of the earth so that the Prince of Peace will return and true Freedom shall be. Come Jesus, come....Praise, Honor, and Glory to the Highest....always a brother and sister.........
Mark & Dee
USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 22:06:40 (MST)

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Merry Christmas and a very happy Newyear to all my 129th brothers and sisters!!!.. Kal..>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email. com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 21:44:38 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all. Just trying to keep warm here and keep the bird feeder full. Days are getting longer. Time to go ice fishing. Been thinking about a good fish chowder with the cold weather. Everyone stay safe. Gus
Ted Gustafson
Grand Rapids, MN USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 20:27:27 (MST)

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Flight! This is the part of Christmas that I like. Time has slowed down. The stores are closed. If I haven't gotten it by now it is to late. Now I can get in the spirit. Bottle of merlot has been uncorked. Cheese and a hunk of Nusshenken is on the cutting board. About a foot of fresh snow on the ground and the logs are snapping and hissing in the fireplace. Only thing that would make it better is if you all were all here with me. Guess I will just have to be content with the warm comforting thoughts of you all. The one's I have met and the one's still to meet. I thank you all for being one of the better parts of my life. I lift a glass in your honor . To the one's who have taken our place in harms way....my utmost respect and love. The many times I was unable to make it home for Christmas I was always filled with the knowledge that what I was doing was the true meaning of Christmas. Giving for others. For that I am still humbled that I had the opportunity to serve. To the one's carrying a burden this holiday season!!!please let us help carry some of the load. To everyone,my best to you and yours this holiday season. Love and Brotherhood, Ron PS Keith, Give me a shout. I was also there 72-73
Ron Paye <ronpaye(remove this)comcast.net>
Indy, In USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 19:32:20 (MST)

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MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and the very best of NEW YEARS.........I don't speak often but I read every day. Some days I cry some days I laugh....but always I pray for those in need..and hope that you remember me and mine in your prayers......Keith 72-73
Keith 72-73
corinth, Ms. USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 16:57:28 (MST)

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 14:33:22 (MST)

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I just wanted to wish everyone on here a very Happy Holiday season and warmest wishes for a wonderful 2005. I have not visited here in some time, but my thoughts are with the 129th and always will be. Mark and Dee...Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Sue
Celina, OH USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 12:04:19 (MST)

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Our thoughts our with Susan and Fred, Ray and Gail and LIZ and Alex and the rest of the 129th family. be careful out there. I know how that snow can be I lived in Cleveland. All though here in Phoenix the temp is 60 and low of 39. The sun is shinning and it is clear out. Merry Christmas
Rick England
USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 11:17:00 (MST)

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just wanted to wish everybody a merry x-mas an a goog an healthy new year. fred my thoughts an prayers for you and susen. merry xmas all.
wink
USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 09:56:28 (MST)

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Home for the holidays, Happy and healthy holidays to all, checks in the mail for the DVD, let me know when you get it.
Lou Rags
Dover, De USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 06:48:08 (MST)

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Good morning group. We have 3 inches of ice and 1 inch of snow here in Collierville, TN. Guys, we don't get this type of weather too often so basically the city is shut down. I work 18 minutes from home and it took me over 3 hours to get home on Wednesday! Alex is slip sliding to work this morning. Thank you all for the nice emails and cards. Gale where do you come up with such wonderful ideas each year? Hope the trip into Indy for you and Debbie is a safe one today. Mark sounds like you have been busy with this weather. Robbie hope you are feeling much better. Ray, you know you will hear from Alex this weekend. You are absolutely right, people are people no matter what color, religion, etc. We all have hearts and feelings. Alvis & Sue you guys take care and hang in there, a lot of prayers are coming your way. Merry Christmas to you all. Liz (For Alex)
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Friday, December 24, 2004 at 06:40:51 (MST)

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We're getting rain this evening! It's forty degrees with high winds, hope it'll take all the ice away. Slow hand salute for a couple Mainer's who got killed in Mosul. Age old lesson; there ARE NO front lines in an insurgency!!!! Marines are still fighting in Falluja? Who's winning? Where's Osama?
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 20:44:21 (MST)

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Gale, we had about 9 inches here.Main roads are in good shape with a few intersections still having loose snow.Both lanes (each way) of hwy 36 are open and clear.Rockville road is in excellent shape. 465,the loop around indy,is in great shape. No problems getting to the airport. Secondary roads are a mess,but their working on those as well. Lots of salt and sand put down,plows did an excellent job.Merry xmas to all and to all thank you for your well wishes,god bless each and every one of you.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 18:49:24 (MST)

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Want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Safe New Year. Thank you for keeping Ray and Gail in your prayers. Means a lot. Take care all Kris
kris <clue4blue>
balt, md USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 15:12:09 (MST)

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129th AHC Brothers & Sisters, Debie & I would like to wish you & your families a Very Merry Christmas and we hope & pray that 2005 brings good health to all. LZ San Antonio is just around the corner and we are excited about meeting more of you. What a family this is.......it reaches every corner of this great country and I am very proud to be part of it. Alvis, you know that you two are in our prayers and also Ray & Gail, Alex & Liz. Alvis, what's the roads like over your way? We have to pick Debbies son up at Indy Friday evening. Mark.........I agree. God save our troops, Gale
Gale 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 13:09:22 (MST)

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Just stopping in to say Merry Christmas to ya'll. Looks like the snow will still be around Saturday giving us a white Christmas. Not had much luck with trying to find stuff out about my uncle at the 48th web site. Just not as much banter there. Lots of times I feel like giving up. Praying for you all that are having problems and health issues. Hope ya'll enjoy humidity and hot weather...San Antonio is beautiful though. Lot of things to see. The trollies are a rough ride though. Hope ya'll have a wonderful time. I know Johnson wasn't a popular man but if you can you should see his old ranch. Its just a beautiful place. Its now a national park. Its near Fredericksburg. Also another place in Fredericksburg you might try is the Nimitz museum. Its also very intresting. Happy Holidays all.
Melody Pershall
Amarillo, TX USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 11:43:49 (MST)

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Digging out in Ohio. Wrecker calls started 1:00AM this morning. Bill was stuck in his driveway so he ran the show from his cell phone. I got in at 6:00AM and gave a hand then. Even had to upright a State plow truck. All 6 wreckers are out and it's a 3 hour wait and $1,000 bucks to get pulled out of the ditch or set a truck upright today. It's hazard duty pay today. Sure miss pop today. He was the best at running 6 wreckers in 7 different directions at the same time. Gays need to be ministered to. Merry "CHRIST"mas to all.
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 10:32:29 (MST)

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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL THE 129TH FAMILY. MAY THE COMMING NEW YEAR BRING GOOD HEALTH TO ALL OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. LOOKING FORWARD TO TEXAS. JIM
jim oliver
sav, ga USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 10:04:00 (MST)

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Rainer it was hit once in tail rotor aug of 65 maybe a speical ship from thailand that was in Cambodia I heard of those through a crewchief stationed in Thailand. Who knows what went on then?????????
Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 07:42:38 (MST)

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Gee, I hope no one took offense to the few exchanges we had about gay women. It was all meant in lite jest:>) But it sure was nice hearing some of the responses supporting....oh, oh. I better not go any further:>) May all within the 129th family find some Peace over the holiday season. You are my Christmas present, a gift I would not exchange. Be safe, enjoy, and share. And remember, you are never alone. Peace in 2005-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 06:46:14 (MST)

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Merry Christmas and howdy to you all! Prayers are going out for ALEX, FRED and SUSAN, KIM and friend, MARK and DEE, RAY... Dios les bendiga in your difficult times! Thanks for the note JIM OLIVER! RICK JENSEN, a check's in the mail to you... Thanks bro. GALE and DEBBIE, once again thanks for the little gift!
Dave Powers
USA - Thursday, December 23, 2004 at 03:19:01 (MST)

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doesnt matter what color we are when the light is turned on...but sure have woke up with a few ugly ones when it was light..hey, its snowing,,and snowing,and snowing
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 22:18:17 (MST)

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Ray, you said it well. We are all people. We all need love, forgiveness, acceptance....if we are a voice of love in the darkness, does it matter when the light is turned on and we are different shades or colors? It is all about love. When we have that, we have it all. No one is less a person if they are gay or lesbian or heterosexual...all of us have the same needs as anyone else. I am so glad Jim and I have found this site and y'all. Ray, Susan, Alex and all of you suffering, we're praying for you. You all are a blessing to us. Everyone have a very Merry Christmas. Jim will be adding his bio soon since he was born the day after Christmas in northeastern Nebraska. You can take the boy out of the country......but you can't take the country out of the boy. Take care all......Sue
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 22:03:40 (MST)

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No offense taken, Ray....I've been coaching young women for about 20 years, a lot of them were(are) gay. People are people. Still, we've got to be able to laugh at life's little twists and turns. We're getting inundated with bad news galore, and we need to find a little bit of humor if we can.....I won't claim to be a christian, but.....this season is all about love, even in a world full of hatred. According to the bible, Jesus was born in a time of war, occupation, corruption, money grubbing. He had the courage to tell all to love, forgive. Should we aspire to any less?
Kim
USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 20:40:09 (MST)

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Got bored today and was searching Ebay, found a B-model Huey for sell. Tail # was 64-14001, anyone know what company it was assigned to. I checked the VHPA disk and could not find out. Starting bid was 28000.
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 18:13:38 (MST)

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HELLO ALL I SEE A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GAYS AND LESBIANS IN HERE A PERSON IS A PERSON NO MATER WHAT IT' WHAT' IN THERE HEART THAT MATTERS I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY IN A WAY THEY ARE BLESSED FOR THEY ARE BLESSED WITH 2 SEXES SORRY IF I OFENEDED ANY ONE BUT TO MUCH TALK GOING ON ABOUT IT SORRY A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY
MD USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 16:01:42 (MST)

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Best wishes for the hollidays from my family to all the 129th family. ..... Matt Casey.... CE - buldog 174
Matt Casey
Hemet, CA USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 13:39:29 (MST)

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Ray, Sorry I couldn't talk much when you called yesterday. That cold was kickin my ass and as you could tell I could hardly speak. I stayed inside all day drinking liquids and taking medicine. I feel better today and went out to get more wood for the stove. I hope everything works out for the best for you on that next Biopsy. You're always in my thoughts Brother. Liz, thanks for the update on Alex. I hope his catarac surgery goes well.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 10:10:30 (MST)

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL THE 129th FOLKS, be safe. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Ut USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 10:06:58 (MST)

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Best of luck on the biospy Ray. Keep your eye on that Thomas Kincaid painting, he is one of Americas most sought after painters these last few years.His rural cottage scenes seem to of hit a soft spot in american culture.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 09:27:55 (MST)

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HELLO ALL I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT SIBLINS WHEN ONE PASSES AWAY LAST YEAR MY SISTER GAVE ME A PLACK OG THE WALL FOR CHRISTMASS AND THE NEXT DAY SHE CALLED AND SAID WHEN I DIE SHE WANTS IT BACK, THAT SHE WANTS SOMETHING TO REMEMBER ME BY, I TELL YOU IF IT DIDNT MEAN SO MUCH TO ME I WOULD OF GIVEN IT BACK ALRIGHT RIGHT THEW HER CAR WINDOW. BUT HER GIVEN IT TO ME TOOK ALL THE MEANING OUT BUT I STILL GOT IT AND TOLD HER NO WAY IS SHE GETTING IT SHE EVEN KEPT THE THING YOU GET WITH IT THE CERFICITICT OF PFOFF NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY TO SPELL THE RIGHT WORD BUT I CALLED THE MINT EXPLAINED WHAT HAPPENED SO THEY SENT ME A NEW ONE. ALL MY SISTER WANYS ARE THINGS GO VALUE. WE HAVE A PAINTING BY A MAN NAMED TOMMASS KINKADE IT HAS BEEN SOLD OUT FOR YEAYS, SHE ASHED FOR THAT WHEN WE BOTH DIE WE TOLD HER ALL GOSE TO KRIS SO MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS I GUESS ITS THE SAME ALL OVER ITS A SHAME.OH WELL OH I GO FOR MY SECOND BIOPSEY ON THE 11th JAN WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS I LET YOU ALL KNOW A BROTHER ALWAYS BE SAFE STAY WELL RAY
RAY <stilwating@aol@com>
MD USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 07:13:22 (MST)

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Thanks for the update on Alex.Best wishes to a speedy recovery.Its got to be scary for you both,eyesite is so taken for granted.Please be safe for those driving these next few days.Gale,Raineer,Ron and myself are huddleing down,7 to 10 inches of snow coming our way today thru tomorrow morning.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 06:56:55 (MST)

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Evening Flight. Fred & Susan you guys are in our thoughts and prayers at this very difficult time. Fred if you need anything at all, you know we are here. Gently thank you for the kind words of support in your recent email. We found out Alex has cataracts that were brought on by the steriods he has been taking on and off for the past 12 to 15 months for his foot. It seems the steriods sped up his metabolism and caused the increased progression of the cataracts. He would have eventually had them in about 20 years or so. He has surgery on his right scheduled in late January and then the left eye possibly in March. But these are minor compared to what our brothers and sisters are going through. Ray, Fred and Susan you all remain in our prayers. Mark, what can I say about your siblings!! I have 2 that will do the exact same thing when the time comes. They are never around and only call when they feel like it or need something. God made some of us stronger than others! You take care and know we are thinking of you. We hope each of you have a safe and peaceful holiday. Liz & Alex
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 19:27:35 (MST)

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LOL!
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 15:25:13 (MST)

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Gently, I always had an affinity for lesbians, it finally occurred to me thatI'm just a lesbian, trapped in a man's body!!!! :>))
Kim
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 15:18:27 (MST)

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Is there any way to block this casino stuff?????
Rick
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 14:16:43 (MST)

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.My sibs are not bad, just misguided and focus on the wrong side of LOVE.
Mark
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 08:29:39 (MST)

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Robbie, ya know if all entitlements upon ones death was based on who was the less aggravating I would get nothing and I actually want nothing. I am the one that always was around to yell at Mom and dad and would get mad at them and then quit the business and then have the nerve to ask them for my job back. I would be in dad's face about drinking and how he would treat other people and I would gripe at mom for being so selfcentered. I made them miserable, I am sure. The other sibs cared so little and never were around that it appeared that they were such sweet kids and I was the mean and bad seed. BUT, I know in my heart, that I have the foundest memories of dad, and will mom, be they good or bad..MERRY CHRISTMAS,
Mark
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 08:28:19 (MST)

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Rick Jensen the DVD came yesturday Thanks bud.*****Judith did you watch the librarian and her friend.hehehehhe*******I flew the other day in a glider it was great about 3000ft. Tino and I are going to do skydiving next tandem jump. I hope that guy isn't gay.pucker factor?????hehehehehyhe*******I want to wish everybody a safe and happy holiday. Be careful out there.
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 07:29:36 (MST)

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Grrrrrr... Gently, what you talking bout? Ray Gagner, I sent you an email about your question. If you don't understand or want more info, give me a call... Kim, real good input. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 06:57:24 (MST)

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Kim, you and your friend have been added to the 129th prayer list. Amen. Sue.....working in a library?! I guess they don't make librarians like they use to: one that I had in high school was gay and dated the female womens physical education teacher:>))) I remember showers that.....never mind. :>)) Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 at 06:42:50 (MST)

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Remember your local libraries for information and also the Roberts Rules of Order book. I work for a library and it unbelieveable how helpful a reference department can be for almost any kind of information. It is their job to find you answers. Also, there are many online resources now that they can tell you about. And, if you don't want to purchase the "rule book", they will have a copy. There are also samples of documents that you folks are trying to design. Just thought I'd add my two cents worth. Sue
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 17:56:32 (MST)

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hang tuff Mark, they do indeed swarm.I have seen it 3 times now,Dad,grand dad,and grandmother.It dang near made me sick.RAY,thank you for your kind words and thoughts( everyone else too).Ray, you hang in there buddy,your a fighter.Susan and I have sent a prayer for you as well.Robbie,good job your doing,thank you and good input from kim.GREAT JOB GUYS! Yes, the by laws are going to be the tuff part.We can try to keep it simple and short,anyone wanna work on that part?Kim,its darn cold here as well,7 inches of snow comming,tuesday night thru thursday morn,winter storm warning already being posted.Better put some wood on the fire in the wood shop out back gale.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 17:49:05 (MST)

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Wishing all "Bite n'Strikers"a Merry Christmas,Happy Holidays,safe & healthy NewYear..Our prayers go out to Fred&Susan for strenght and healing in Jesus'Name.God bless..Lenny,Elke,&sons.
Lenny "fire"Adams <rtrwingnut@yahoo.com>
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 17:23:28 (MST)

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ALVIS AND SUE PLEASE HANG IN THERE ALL PRAYS ARE WITH YOU BOTH IAM NOT GOOD WITH WORDS BUT BELIVE ME I WISH YOU BOTH THE BEST JUST KNOW WE ARE ALL ARE HERE OK TAKE CARE MY BROTHER ROB WHAT IS THIS THING YOU HAVE THATS GOING ON ABOUT VOTING, WELL CANT STAY BUY I POST AGAIN. OH TAKE CARE GENTLY BE SAFE STAY WELL ABROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY
MD USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 16:56:09 (MST)

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Robbie is right, we should decide what constitutes a quorum in order to hold a legal meeting. AS far as a legal vote, the standard is to require a majority of those present and voting. A quorum can be a few as three people. The big trick is to get by-laws passed, which require a decision at a meeting as to how many affirmative votes are required for something to become a standing rule, usually 2/3rd of those present and voting. Once by-laws are in place, things get to be routine. Sorry for not posting lately, but, I've been witnessing a bit of hell on earth. An acquaintance of mine is in the final stages of Lou Gehrig's disease. He's only able to move his eyes, and speak with a major slur. According to him, he has all feeling in his limbs, he just can't move anything. He still feels heat and cold, itches, things like that. Most everyone has deserted him, which is understandable, we tend to want to remember somebody as they were, not as they've become. That goes for me, I'm ashamed to admit, as I've been avoiding stopping by, too....Alvis, you and Sue hang in there, question everything, and FIGHT!!!! We're heading into the deep freeze tonight, 20 below or lower, predicting rain and 50 degrees by thursday???? go figure...
Kim
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 15:47:23 (MST)

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Mark, thanks for the info. It's funny how relatives that didn't seem to give a hoot about someone for years and years, show up and feel they are just as entitled to property and other things as someone that cared for and loved them as they should have.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 14:31:53 (MST)

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Fred and Susan, Healing prayers and concerns are sent skyward for you both. Robbie,last time I counted the names I have on my e-mail list it was about 230 129th'ers have made contact with the web site at one time or another but some have checked in once and never heard from again...........sorry for not being able to talk about the asso. stuff so much Alvis, THANKS for doing what you have done in respect to it....back here it is just as I thought it would be after Pop's passing. The ones who havn't had an interest in him or his business in 30 years are starting to circle above like vultures. It's discusting how my siblings are acting......
Mark
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 13:46:42 (MST)

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Fred A. I'm sorry for what you and Susan are going through and have yet to go through. I'll be thinking about you both. As for the Organization, We would have to determine a Quorum, which is a minimum number of members that must be present to conduct substantive business. We would need to decide if we thought a majority of members would be necessary, to carry on business or what. Majority being at least 1/2 of the members. Mark or Alex, can either of you tell me how many 129th members we have at this time? Also conducting business on the web site might be S--L--O--W. That is if you go by the rules of order as I think everyone would want done. As I said in one of my previous posts, I think that everyone that wants to participate in elections and adopting agenda's etc should read this Robert's Rules of Order. The book that I have says it is newly revised and in brief. Also on the back of the book it says it is $6.95. Again Fred, I thank you for all that you have done to get all of this started. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Sorry this was so long. If anyone wants to take this business on the side, You could send me an email at bulldog265#bluefrog.com, or call me at 315-589-7971.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 09:18:48 (MST)

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I don't know how to express my sadness and concern, Fred and Ray......Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 06:58:50 (MST)

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Fred Our good thoughts our with you and Susan.
Rick England
USA - Monday, December 20, 2004 at 05:25:18 (MST)

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Alvis, Your family is in our prayers.
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 21:30:40 (MST)

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ok, vote is waiting for those who will be in Texas. I doubt if Susan and I will be there either. Its appears that not only is Susan going under the knife,but chemo and radiation treatments are in store for her as well.Susan will be down at least one month after the doc gets thru cutting on her.Then the rest of the treatments go on for god knows how long.There are 3 types of breast cancer..the lump one ,which we are all know about and 80% of women get( it starts in the milk ducts).10% get a kind that turns the breast red and swollen,very painful,and they cut it off,the 3rd kind starts in the milk gland itself,which another 10% of women get.Women cant feel it in a normal exame,nor can a dotcor.Most of the time ,its missed in mamamery test.It starts out as threads,grey deadly threads ,then slowly grows and moves thruout the body,mostly the liver,bones and nodes.We dont know if its moved nor how bad it is at the moment.The doc guesses late stage one or early stage 2.He wont know till he opens her up.It can come back,it isnt a simple lump removal. So,as I said,things dont look up for texas for us either.If Susan is to sickly,or if I am a widow,I/we wont show. Trying to get this thing going doesnt take alot of my time,and I welcome the distraction,but ill winds are blowing very dark storm clouds on my familys happy horizen.Its wait and see.
ALVIS
USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 14:57:30 (MST)

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Fred A. You could probably do that, but what do you have to vote on that couldn't wait until you go to Texas? Just wondering...Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 13:42:42 (MST)

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HELLO ALL. WONDERING IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME I HAVE TWO OLD SONGS BY BOB DYLAN I HAVE THE 3 CD SET OF THE BIOGRAPH OF HIM SOME SONGS WERE NEVER REALSED I CAN SEND THE SONGS AS A WAVE IF SOME ONE CAN MAKE THE THEM TO A MP3 SO I CAN PUT IN MY PLAYER I GOT THE SOFT WEAR BUT CANT DO IT OH IF ANY ONE WOUL LIKE THE COPYS I BE HAPPY TO BURN SOME FOR YOU THANKS NOW HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING IAM OK HERE BUT GET SO TIRED EASY. BUT WANT TO WISH MY FAMILY A GRATE HOLIDS BE SAFE STAY WELL A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY. JUST THINK TEX NOT FAR OFF SEE U ALL THERE
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
MD USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 13:12:12 (MST)

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P{erhaps so robbie,but cannot we vote on line,here in this web site that will hold over till june.?
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 10:54:35 (MST)

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Fred A. I was thinking you might want to pick another commander. In order to elect the officials you need to run this organization, you need to get most of the members together to do the electing. I would think that the Texas Reunion would be the place to do this because you will have more of the members there than any other time in the future. I am not planning on going to this Reunion and suggest you temporarily appoint another Brother to accept this position. I will however keep on reading the rules because it's a good thing to know. I suggest that anyone who is going to participate in the election process of this organization read this book. It gives you the proper proceedures for starting and maintaining an organization. Respectfully, Robbie
Robbie
ROchester, NY USA - Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 07:23:36 (MST)

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I believe swash has been taken care of, so never mind.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 17:53:13 (MST)

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Flight, I just got off the phone with Swash. He has gangrene, and it is worsening (as GG does). I have convinced him to get to a VA hospital, preferrebly at Birmingham. He has no transportation or familial support. I advised him of the technical aspects of his problem and read him some information re: GG. If there is anyone living near Lagrange, Ga., that can drive Sawsh to the Birmingham facility, please do. I advised Swash to also get his ditty bag together for an extended stay at a facility. I suggested, no demanded, he call 911 and request transport to the Birmingham hospital. If there is anyone that can get Swash to the hospital please call him at 706-645-5656. This is serious guys. -- Jimmie “Popeye” Sanders (Fire Captain Retired), Former Scout Gunner Vietnam Veteran & 3rd Generation Cavalryman This was posted in heli vets,another site I GO TO,its just nam helicopter vets.Fi anyone can help that lives in that "ao".please do.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 12:05:09 (MST)

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animal;hormel burns a little better.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 11:50:39 (MST)

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I tried to smoke some hash, but couldn't get it to burn. Is there another brand beside Libbys?.................Alvis, I'd be honored to serve as public relations person for the organization, just keep in mind that the last time I tried selling my stuff at a craft fair I got into a fight!....It's a long story.........Good to see you online again Ray, Hang in there.................Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 11:44:55 (MST)

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Ray, good to see your post in here. It was nice talking to you the other day. You hang in there and everything will work out.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 06:53:53 (MST)

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thanks Ray,seems our family is in a similar battle.Hope the best for our familys .
alvis
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 18:47:24 (MST)

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Still dont know much more than before vist to docs.He sent susan for more test and said he needed a few more test yet as well.They have no idea how much it has infratrated sence its not the lump kind of cancer,but in "strands". Doc says kinfe time will be in jan.,as the whole shuts down during the xmas,new year week. thanks for the prayer smitty,your a good man for that job.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 18:45:02 (MST)

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Ray hang in there brother me and my family are praying for you anyway you are way to salty to let that stuff beat you. I saw my new shoulder Doc Monday and he says he will do the replacement March 9th ( heard that before lol )I WANNA WISH ALL MY 129TH FAMILY A MERRY CHIRSTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR . A Brother Always George
george marshall
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 16:49:57 (MST)

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The bidding is over at $576, and like last year, the buyer wants to remain unknown. But for another $576 I'll tell anyway:>))))))))))) Kidding. Be safe this weekend everyone and congrats to our wonderful and generous bidder! L-G
Gently
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 15:26:57 (MST)

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Rick your DVD is on the way. Should have it by Monday at the latest.
Rick
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 15:02:49 (MST)

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Hello Family.Smitty, thanks for the prayer, Was excellent........RAY...good to see you on line. Praying for you everyday brother. Alvis, Wow, great job on the asso. What Ohio Office to you have to register at? Can I do that? Hash????.yeah did some man. We celebrate the greatist Gift of all soon, but lets celebrate it everyday this year. Ya know the Puritons outlawed celebrateing December 25 as Christmas because their beleif was that we should celebrate Christ everyday as we do that day. Blessings to you all...
Mark
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 12:30:57 (MST)

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HELLO ALVIS HOW IS SUE DOING PLEASE KEEP US IN FORMED FOR ARE WE ALL FAMILY HERE AND WE CARE FOR ALL MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYES GO OUT TO YOU BOTH I PRAY ALL GOES WELL FOR HER AND YOU. I TELL YA IT SEEMS TO NEVER END, ITS ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON ONCE YOU THINK YOU GOT YOUR HEAD ABOVE WATER IT SEEMS LIKE YA GET PULLED DOWN. BUT WE ARE FAMILY ALWAYS HERE MY FRIEND. TAKE CARE ALVIS AND WE SEE YOUM BOTH IN TEX A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY TO THE REST OF MY FAMILY I WISH YOU THE BEST HOLIDAYS TAKE CARE STAY WELL AND BE SAFE
RAY
MD USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 11:45:59 (MST)

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Web site aimed at people with PTSD
Gently
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 08:46:00 (MST)

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FYI: Web site aimed at people with PTSD A University of Regina professor and several colleagues from other post-secondary institutions are going online to try and help people deal with post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Dr. Gordon Asmundson, a professor in the faculty of kinesiology at the U of R, along with others involved in research and treatment of the condition around North America have launched the Traumatic Stress Group Web site aimed at helping people across Canada suffering from PTSD. <> The Traumatic Stress Group Web Site ...... Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 08:44:04 (MST)

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opps, the site is http://www.petester.com/toc.html
alvis
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 08:11:24 (MST)

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Ray,we have our fingers crosed for you buddy,as well as prayers said.Please keep us ,your friends, posted. We care. I just was told of an interesting site,many,many pictures,of vietnam.The down side is that wing wipers ( airforce to you civilian types) took most of these pics.Lots of information there as well,such as..did you know that part of the jap force that bombed pear harbor was spotted in Cam Rhan bay before bombing, but was discounted?
alvis
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 08:09:51 (MST)

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HELLO FLIGHT BEEN A WHILE SINCE I BEEN HERE BUT LOTS GOING ON . WAS TOLD I GOT PROASTE CANSER 99% SURE BUT DOING A SECON TEST IN JAN I ASO HAVE A TEST COMMING UO ON THE 28th TO HAVE A CAMMER GO DOWN MY STOMACH TO CHECK FOR BAREETS ESSOGOSG SPELT WRONG I KNOW BUT ITS FRON ASID REFLEX MAKES THE STOMACH HIT PART OF THE THROTE, THE DR HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT A LONG TIME WACHING CHANGES. I HAVE LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT I KNOW WEIGH 144 LOSSING IT FAST THE VA SAID IT CAUSE OF THE PROPASET THING AND THE BARETTS THING I JUST HOPE THEY DONT FIND CANSER THERE. OTHER THAN THAT ALL IS FINE I DINT HAVE MUCH STRENTH I CANT DO MUCH I DONT GET ON MUCH JUST TO LOOK AT MAIL AND ANSWER THEM . BUT WE STILL PLAN ON GOING TO SAN ANTONIO TEX WELL I JUST WANTED 6TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHY I HAVENT BEEN ON TAKE CARE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY LOVE YOU ALL
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 07:58:14 (MST)

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Will do Kim. Or should I say "Cowboy?" :>))) I hope it works I want so badly to see it. Paul please make the check out to Judith Singer, and we all thank you for your contribution, no matter how small it seems to you. Trust that it will completely change the life of one of our friends and your brothers, because they are going to the re-union! Here's a Rick England comment "YIPPIE HEHEHEHEH!!" for you. And thanks for the VHS offer...we'll see if i need it. I'm ah kinda countin' on the cowboy:>)) With a smile-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 17, 2004 at 06:46:33 (MST)

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Gently, I had to start the thing a few times every time I played it. Don't give up!!!! My player is a cheap memorex, it just took some coaxing. Paul, I smoked just enough to keep the heads from worrying about me, did mail a bit home to a friend of mine though. I got hooked up with a bunch of Germans who showed me how to get around, and a couple cowboys who managed to get me on a bareback rig with the European Rodeo Association. Bought my first Harley while over there, 3000.00 for a 74 Superglide. Got myself busted 2 grades for yanking a kid out of his bunk, got restricted to post, left every day in spite of them trying to keep me in check. The battalion commander was friendly with me for some reason, and tried to talk me into staying in, but, I was so disenfranchised with the system by then.............
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 19:42:02 (MST)

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no hash darn it. try the dvd in a different machine. if possible if not i can make a vhs copy over the holidays.
paul mcgrath
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 16:21:36 (MST)

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gently;to whom do i make check payable(129 ahc, christmas fund or to you)if you is your name gently. thanks paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 16:17:52 (MST)

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Hash....What great memories:>))) Kim, thank you for sending the DVD. I tried to watch it but it didn't work. I get some message about "back tracking." Paul, the address is: 7221 W. Bluemound Road, Milwaukee WI 53213. You're not going to send Hash are you? LOL! Mr. Fred, you sure are going nuts with this 129th Assoc stuff. Way to go! Thanks for taking the lead. We can back channel on the Treasures's stuff, but with $1300 in the bank, I may move to Seattle, which has always been a dream of mine. Any jobs out that way, Dan? You are all still in my prayers-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 15:06:22 (MST)

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Those Vets with 20 years or more and qualify for CRSC or CRDP the web site at http://www.crlegislation.com/ has some cool information.
Rick
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 14:18:20 (MST)

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The 129th ahc assoc,recieved its first mail/letter today.smile,It was from the IRS. Well, guess I better go down to the irs office in the morning and file a few more forms.Guess we are getting somewhere cause its no longer at the local level(irs),I have to file at the DIStrict office in Ohio now.Gently,we need to get together on back channel so I can give you the particulars and numbers for the 129th bank account and "ein" number.Perhaps we should start it "offically" Jan. 2nd? its up to you..
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 14:03:32 (MST)

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I would like to wish Happy Holidays to all: 1st temp duty:>> Lord, we thank you for the family of the 129th,we thank you for your grace. At this special time of year we celebrate the sending of your Son, the Prince of Peace. Many of us are ailing, we pray for healing. Many of us carry guilt, we ask forgiveness. Many of us have suffered losses, we pray for understanding. For those Brothers & Sisters Who now serve overseas, we pray that You watch over them and bring Peace and a swift end to War.>> in Jesus Name>>> Amen>>> respects>>>smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 13:56:57 (MST)

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kim; i remember the hash. stuff 40 or 50 grams in the hookah and smoke it up for breakfast.i could buy kilos for 500 dollars.i'd sell 500 grams and smoke the other 500. did that 40 some times in a year. never made any money but the time went by.did you ever get your hands on any chokin red? that stuff would turn your lungs inside out. paul
paul brown
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 11:35:23 (MST)

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Paul, I was stationed at Aschaffenburg, CSC 4/64th Armor, 3rd ID. I transferred there to get away from a tank battalion in Ft. Benning, and ended up...... in a tank unit!! went through Redeye missle school at Ft. Bliss, just in time to read of Mr. Lovejoy's death there. Kinda flashed back, and flipped out. Even though I love Germany, and the folks, I just couldn't stand barracks life over there. We had no budget for anything, just go out to the track park every day and look at the junk! SMLM must have been laughing their asses off!! Lots of guys eating mandrax avery day, smoking hash, just killing time. I'm rambling...maybe it's my turn to do a bio?
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 04:26:27 (MST)

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DAVE; got the buisness card. thanks i'll put it in my nam file.will have some more stuff to share after holidays. KIM where were you in germany? i was in nelligen kaserne just out side of stuttgart in 71.GENTLY could you post address and who to make check out to.ALVIS keep your chin up,it will all work out the way it's supposed to.paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 19:58:25 (MST)

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geeezz.....last time I was a Sargeant, I ended up as a PFC!!!! Now that I'm a PFC for real, folks can just call me sarge... HA! Fond memories of Germany, german beer and wine, no bullets, no equipment, no where to go, nothing to do. U.S. Army, 1974.
Kim
USA - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 19:09:00 (MST)

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When I have to subit the paper work,If you guys dont mind, This is how I will list the offericers,untill elections are held.Robbie, Commander( cause he is doing the "roberts rules thing) RAY, Vice commander( cause he flew with robbie and he is a nice guy),Treasurer, gently ( cause she is already doing it),mark,historian,(cause he is already doing it), Jim for chaplin ( cause ever time he saw a gook he used the lords name),Kim, sargent at arms,( cause he is a liberal,kind hearted,and sees things from a different view,which we need) Animal as the public relations guy,(shrug, he lives in hawaiai(sp),). I dont intend to offend anyone,these are just slots I have to fill.Perhaps when Robbie gets a little futher into his book,he can straighten this out.The only problem i can think of is we might run into problems mixing associates with actual 129th members.If need be,i will list my name as secretary,but I dont think it will be nessecary.Hell, I cant even spell.Happy holidays from my family to yours,alvis
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 15, 2004 at 11:38:43 (MST)

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Well Flight the DVDs are available. There are 2 types. 1. DVD+R which should work on all computers with DVD Rom Drives for $5 shipping included. 2. DVD+RW which should work with your computer DVD Rom Drives or TV DVD Player for $6 shipping included. Want to make everyone aware that the original (DVD+RW) from Paul worked in both my computer and TV DVD Player except the sound did not play when in the TV DVD Player. Paul said the sound played in his player so it may be a compatibility issue there with my player. Please send a check or money order to Rick Jensen, 209 Kershner Drive, Clovis, NM 88101. If you have a paypal account you send it to me at RickardAllanJensen@cox.net. Will mail the DVD out as soon as I receive payment. Please email or call me if you have any questions. MERRY CHRISTMAS
Rick Jensen <RickardAllanJensen>
Clovis, NM USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 21:19:05 (MST)

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TO ALL MY 129TH BROTHERS AND SISTERS MAY YOU EACH HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY AND FUFILLED NEW YEAR. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE IN TEXAS.
jim oliver
sav, ga USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 13:25:25 (MST)

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TO ALL;here is another site i ran across www.armyaircrews.com. go to the first page click on hueys and it will list recent losses. scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on vietnam losses and the year you want and it gives date, personel,unit, and cause of the crash. don't know if you're interested. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 12:01:21 (MST)

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DAVE;i recieved a copy of the card from ranier already forwarded to rick for the cover of the dvd. thanks.RICK ENGLAND; rick jensen is the man with the dvd's. i believe he is getting 5 dollars to cover the disc and mailing. he should be making an anouncement about it soon. i talked to him last nite and he had the disc i sent him.TO ALL the disc will be a little shorter as we lost permission to use the last half hour, but it will still be an hour long. for those that already have it please delete the last half hour.SORRY paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 11:44:44 (MST)

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JUst remember I have the 129th pins just donate to the fund.
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 08:40:26 (MST)

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I want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas. Thanks for the cards Robbie and Gale. Be careful out there. Oh! I would like to buy one of those DVD My Who and Where do I send the money how much. I had trouble with the puter just catching up. bd431#mindspring.com
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 08:25:56 (MST)

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Paul McGrath, I have a "You Call We Kill" card. Give me your eddress and I'll e-mail it to you.
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 08:18:12 (MST)

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Good morning everyone. Kim, I received the CD last night and intend to watch it tonight. Thank you my friend. You rock! The Christmas fund is growing: last week I deposited $1300, the bid for the bracelet is at $576(the bidding closes at 4:30PM(CST) on the 17th), and the $10's and $20's are still trickling in. You might not realize how important those contributions are-they add up pretty quickly. And please stop apologizing in your cards for not being able to give more....every dollar is alot! You'll see the value of it at next years re-union:>))) The Christmas fund is open for donations at any time....and we all know by reading the recent posts that quite afew of our 129ers will need financial help next year. So if you haven't given, and can, please do. Always there for our Veterans-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 14, 2004 at 07:01:47 (MST)

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hi jeff did you work at the salisbury va center. i live just down the road from you in lexington was with the 129th from aug 71 til jul 72 ce bulldog682 that was my 2nd tour first tour was with the 92nd ahc (stallions) lacated in dong ba tin, was there for 18 months. drop me a line if you get the chance. and merry christmas to all. donnie purvis
donnie purvis <dpurvis@us.army.mil>
lexington, nc USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 17:31:25 (MST)

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Mary, you asked for information on places shown in the video. I'll try and name a few for you. The place in the second one, where the huey is tied down next to a guard tower, then the next clip shows a an airborne insignia is Bong Son, otherwise known as LZ English. That was the home of the 173rd Airborne, along with Mike Company, 75th Rangers. The Herd, as we knew them, were a darn good outfit. It was always a pleasure to fly cover for them.There was always an understanding that if we got hit, they'd be there for us!....I think the Bhudda statue is near Phu Cat.......One of the staging area's shown, near the ocean was Miami Beach...ahhhh...all kinds of fond memories...There is a lot of footage of the An Khe pass, where the road is doing some serious switchbacking, like a snake. I didn't spend much time on the gorund, it wasn't a good place for a gunship to be! :>))I think some of the slick guys did a lot of med-caps, which were medical checkup's, food and clothing donations, goodwill missions that went on as part of the process called Vietnamization. Instead of search and destroy, the military went on a serious campaign of trying to win the 'hearts and minds' of the Vietnamize people. That's probably what was going on in the clip of the village with all the bare chested women in it. That was a Montagnard(sp) village. If I remember more places, I'll post them. I also look forward to other's perspectives regarding locations. As a crewchief, where we were going was not really important, 'why' we were going was! Animal, I can't think of any mission that would get us more excited than covering dustoff!! I never wanted to change places with those guys!!!!!
Kim
Livermore, Me USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 16:07:06 (MST)

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Our family is hurting right now. There are so many of you going through terrible times: health, jobs, deaths, the VA, memories. My heart is broken and I feel so unable to help. We'll all pray, of course, but please tell us if there is anything we can do to help you. I know that it helps Ray alot when he gets calls from you, and he by the way, is having some serious problems right now. If any of you feel like a call from any of us would help, at least lift your spirits for a short while, please leave your phone on the site, or email us with it. I for one would certainly call. Fred, if Susie wants to talk I'm sure Debbie, Sue, and I would be happy to call. We're all getting older and falling apart so sharing problems you are having may open up doors you didn't realize were out there. Look how many of you came forward, and immediately, when another of your brothers and one of our sisters said they were giving up the bottle. Many of you shared with the rest of us that you also had done such, and offered to be there for our friends if they needed support. From that day on it became perfectly acceptable to not drink at our re-unions. Some drink, some don't...no one cares. If you have a problem, and are confortable in sharing it with us please do: I bet someone on the site has been there already and could help in some way. If you don't care to share with the whole site, you can email just about anyone of us, and we can help connect you with someone who can help. I have to get back ot work.....juist know that we care. (Thanks Kim:>)). With hope-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 13:38:30 (MST)

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We still know very little.Susans doc has set her up with a specialist friday at 5:30.As you all know, the great,long,dark, empty halls of medical insurance must be navigated first.Thats what is slowing he case down.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 12:37:58 (MST)

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Jeff, Congrats to you and the "Honey Do" list......Enjoy life as God intended you to. Alvis, man, you are something. Thanks for al the work you have done so far on the Taxfree issue for the 129th. How did your and Susan's doc appointment go today? love to all, always a brother,
Mark
USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 11:58:02 (MST)

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congrads Jeff.Enjoy yourself and life.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 09:57:27 (MST)

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The State tax number for non profitt status has been applied for.They said I will recieve something by mail within a few weeks.As I understand it,I then apply for federal non proffit status.We are slowly getting there fellows.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 09:56:06 (MST)

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On 12-9-04 I finally said so long to 30 plus years of government service. The VA is short one nurse. It was a great run but it was time.(Jim W. will know what I mean.) So far retired life has been ok. My wife decided I should spend the first 3 days shopping with her. To my suprise I had a good time. Today how ever the list is begun. Should have it completed with in the next 30 plus years! Happy holidays to all. Skaggs, We need to get together for a visit now that I have some time. Give me a call. Snapper
Jeff Sauers
Lake Norman, NC USA - Monday, December 13, 2004 at 07:15:42 (MST)

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Paul, Already taken care of. Thanks
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 16:26:46 (MST)

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Gale, thanks for the card and ornament. Alvis and Sue; my thoughts are with you. I'm confident that you are being "pro-active" and fighting this thing.............Some thoughts on flying "dust-Off": It was a lot different then slicks in some ways. Dust -Off would generally go into an LZ light and come out heavy. Being on call 24 on and 24 off meant tense waiting, especially if an operation was going on. As far as being unarmed, a dust off ship wasn't supposed to be anywhere around a hot LZ without some Gunnies watching over them. I can say from experience that the 129th Cobras brought comfort and security to many a medivac mission, and were very much appreciated and admired...................with respect, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 15:24:12 (MST)

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rick; in thinking about it i would like to added on the cover"thanks to 498th dustoff for providing video".i just think that would be appropiate thanks paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 14:40:42 (MST)

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rick; that info on card and patch came from ranier,i just forwarded.thank him and make sure he gets a copy. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 13:56:16 (MST)

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Paul, let me know what you think of that cover????? The card you sent had just the very ends cut. But it will do. Thanks
Rick
USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 13:17:24 (MST)

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Gale, Thanks for the card.... Have the ornament hanging on the tree and getting lots of questions and comments on it...... You done good..... Again, thanks...... ktf
C.P.
USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 11:31:34 (MST)

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Thank you, Alvis. Someone from the 498th told me that he never thought anything would happen to him, it would always happen to the next guy. Besides being very dedicated, I guess you would have to think that way to get through the missions.
Mary
USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 09:44:05 (MST)

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ranier; sent you my email.ALVIS you are proabably right.there has to be more to the story but it still frosts my a$$
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 09:19:06 (MST)

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Paul Mcgraft, send me your email address and I will send you a scan of the 129th card
Rainer Bauer <bauerrv@aol.com>
Indy, USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 08:38:58 (MST)

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Watched on the news this morning about the last National Guard Huey flight, I suddenly feel very old.
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 08:32:17 (MST)

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Paul, something seems odd about that story.On the suface of it, I agree with you completely.G.I.'s have been gathering stuff ever since there was an army.We all know there is an unmarked line one dosent cross.As Paul harvey says, I would like to hear the "rest of the story".
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 08:29:15 (MST)

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guys;i just read a very disturbing article in the tribune.it seems that 6 soldiers in iraq were courtmartialed for scrounging.they were from 656 trans co based in springfield ohio.they appropiated a couple of vehicles and stripped another one so they could accomplish thier mission. the co was jailed and given a dishonorableand others were also jailed and reduced in rank. makes me want to go to the nearest police station and turn myself in.at least i'd be in good company.
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Sunday, December 12, 2004 at 08:23:51 (MST)

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Mary, welcome to the site.The dvd has brought many a smile to this old soliders face,as I am sure it has those whom have seen it.I thought the music was a nice touch.Some where I have a pic of a downed medivac,it happened in march of 72.It isnt johns.This chopper was flying wet feet and crashed.it didnt burn.I truely believe that every single vietnam veteran,espically helicopter veterans,have the up most respect for those that flew medivac.I shudder to think about flying around vietnam in an unarmed helicopter,with a big red cross painted on the side.They were the favorite target of the nva and vc,as they knew they were unarmed.It took a certian kind of courage to do that job.My hat is off to him,your family,and a slow, respectful, hand salute is rendered.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 20:24:16 (MST)

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paul, i believe our buddy Ray has a couple of those cards.He isnt feeling well and hasnt posted for a bit.Our prayers continue to go out to him and his family, and for his quick recovery.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 20:15:42 (MST)

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Alvis, Let me know the time and place, just about any time is good for me. Good luck to your lovely bride on Monday
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 19:13:13 (MST)

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Gale, Nope haven't found a job yet. Did anyone watch Robbie the Reindeer tonight? Really good claymation action.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 19:05:20 (MST)

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guys;do any of you remember the 129 having buisness cards that read 129th ahc you call we kill. i ran across someone that says they have one. he is going to scan and send it to me. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 18:23:53 (MST)

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Hello, all. I'm John (Butch) Levulis's stepcousin who Paul has been talking to. I want to say how happy it makes me that so many of you are finding John's film helpful. Last year I persuaded his stepmother, my aunt, to allow me to have the 8mm film transferred to DVD, both to preserve it and so that the family could watch it once again. John's stepmom has no problem with the film being shared with vets who were also at Lane Army. I have to thank Paul for telling me about the DVD as I didn't know someone had put both films on one disk. It was a thrill to see that John is also in the other guy's film (he's the tall, shirtless guy with glasses and the movie camera in the gunship practice sequence). In John's own film, he's going in/coming out of the water at the beach; "Doc Shorty" in mission flights; and near the end of the film, he's in the gunship practice sequence. There's more on Butch at http://virtualwall.org/dl/LevulisJJ01a.htm. He was with the 498th as a medic from June 1970 to February 1971; he died February 21 after crashing at Khe Sanh with John Souther, John Rauen, and Dennis Gilliland during Lam Son 719. If anyone remembers him, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Also, if anyone can identify people and places in both films, I'd appreciate that too.
Mary Read <Lenox1907@cs.com>
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 17:46:41 (MST)

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Alvis, you know that Debbie & I will be thinking of you & Susan On Monday...best of luck. Happy Birthday Robbie and thanks for the compliment. We are doing fine....Debbie's gonna draw unemployment for the winter then we'll go from there. Have you found work yet? Rick, I'll be on the list also for the DVD when it's available. Clear, Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 17:38:42 (MST)

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Paul, please extend my thanks and gratefullnessto John's Mom.We are a respectful group in here,gold star Moms are some of out favorite people.Also please tell her thank you for the look back at when i was young and full of myself.So many nam vets have lost all the things they brought back,including myself.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 15:36:45 (MST)

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Fred, You and Susan are in my thoughts. Hang in there. Alex, I hope you get to feeling better soon. You're going from one extreme to the other aren't you? From your feet to your head...Liz, thanks for the compliments on my Grandkids. I think my daughter should put the youngest one in a modeling agency. Gale and Debbie, I always enjoy your Christmas cards!!!Thanks alot. Hope you both are doing ok. I became another year older on the 9th. I feel like I'm 90 sometimes, but keep plugging away. Hope everyone else is good.
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 14:35:42 (MST)

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to all; i just have something to add and don't want to offend anyone but feel i need to mention it. please do not use the dvd for anything other than personal use. i have been in touch with johns aunt and she sees no problem but is unsure how john's mother and siblings would react.she is making a copy from a copy i sent to her and is giving it to johns mother at christmas.i'm sure that you guys will respect a brother or i wouldn't have offered the dvd. THANKS paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 10:42:33 (MST)

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Thanks for the quick response on the DVD, will be waiting for your posting
Lou Rags 1
Dover, De USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 10:31:40 (MST)

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lou;some backround on the dvd. it is about an hour and a half long and came from 2 different people in the 498th. the first hour was shot by somebody from montana(don't know who) the last half hour was shot by sp4 john leveilus who crashed and burned in feb 71.i was sent a copy by one of the guys in 498th and thought it was just to good to sit in a drawer and only be looked at once in a while.rick is now handling copying and distribution because the cost was getting out of hand as i don't have a dvd burner. it sounds like work keeps you away from home so you might want to email rick to get your name on the list altho i see he already acknowledged your request catch all later paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 10:20:31 (MST)

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Lou, Will make a post when the DVDs are made, then you can send your address and I will let you know the cost for DVD and postage. Should be under $5. Catch ya later
Rick
USA - Saturday, December 11, 2004 at 07:43:44 (MST)

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Just got home from work in NY, kinda tired from the drive home due to the rain and the morons doing 85mph. Whats the deal with the DvD, can someone let me know how to get a copy.
Lou Rags 1
Dover, De USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 23:41:24 (MST)

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I almost forgot. At work today ( i work for a home improvement warehouse,lowes) i had a guy needing some help.Talked to him a few minutes,straightened him out on his questions,then ask him where he was from.He said vietnam.so we talked a great deal more.Seems he was a lt. with the vietnaneese airforce,fixing fixed wing aircraft.siagon,bin hoa mostly.smile, he ask me if i knew where Phu cat was.Anyway,I ask him a great deal about after the fall of Siagon and what happened.I guess the crap really hit the fan for x- officers.He said he spent 6 years in prison,his uncle,a colonel,spent 13 years in prison.little food, hard work,no doctors or medicine..a truely hard case story. I guess the russians are all but kicked out of there now,and they still dont like the chinese.The mountianyards where treated pretty badly.He said now things are pretty relaxed,the goverenment is chasing the american dollar.He didnt care much for bill clintion signing the trade bill with them ,says we should have gotten back our mia's first.Says now there isnt much incentive for them to help.just thought I would pass that on.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 20:53:52 (MST)

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alvisglad to hear you got dvd, not so glad to hear about your wife.when you have time look around at that site there is a ton of stuff there.i can't look very much because i can't open it from home.kim glad to see you enjoy the flick,i got it free and am trying to do the same,glad rick took over getting it out because it was costing me double what it cost him.ANIMAL don't know if you know but there is a mini reunion for 498 the last weekend in july in mineapolis,if you want more info let me know.As with most everybody i check posts everyday.about the minii will be in chitown that weekend for a fishing show so i would definately be able to make it,if for no other reason than to meet a fellow 498ther,but i would like to meet all.ALVIS i don't usually pray much but will say one for your wife and you.keep your chin up paul
paul
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 19:12:19 (MST)

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When the DVD arrives from Paul I will make several copies and make a post that they are available. Then you can send me your addresses and I will let you know what the cost will be. I'm sure it will be under $5 (DVD and postage).Take care and God Bless.
Rick
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 18:45:07 (MST)

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Flight I have not posted recently as I am having some problems with my eyes. I have an appointment next Thursday with a specialist that can hopefully fix me up. Meanwhile Liz is reading and writing for me. I will keep you posted you. Mark hope you are doing well. Alvis you and Susan are in our prayers, we look forward to good news from you on Monday. Bernie good to have you posting again and I look forward to San Antonio. Welcome home to all the new brothers and sisters that have recently joined in on the homepage. Alex & Liz
Alex Fernwalt
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 17:47:20 (MST)

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Alvis, hang in there!!! Thinking good thoughts for you and Susan, good luck on Monday.
kim
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 17:00:10 (MST)

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Hello flight just a few words, I read every day and and it helps me get through the day when I read the post. Kathy I am doing good I didnt have my surgey on the 9th of Nov. the Doc backed out 6 days before the surgey said my shoulder was to bad for him to work on .I am to see another Doc who only does shoulders the 13th this monday so my hopes are up.I just want to tell the flight that I am here , I hear and would be glad to help anyway I can. A brother always George
george marshall
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 16:58:50 (MST)

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Gently, Gently.......money???? Normally I'd charge undying love, adoration, first born child, things like that! However, Linda tends to get upset with me if I show any interest in another female, sooooo............. I got the show for nothing, and will pass it on in the same vein. I'd forgotten about LZ English having it's helipad stuck in a hole! So many little things in that video, so many memory hooks, it's hard to describe the emotions. Even the pilots look like kids! Is that possible? I had a little trouble getting it to load in my DVD, but, after a few tries it always ran. Made the mistake of shutting it off after the first 'the end', and had to play with timing the tape player in order to get the second part of it on tape, the next time was a snap!! I probably spoke to soon about making it to Chi town in January. So little time!!!!!
Kim
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 16:42:51 (MST)

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Going down monday to State Tax folks,to be made aware of my gross and all inclusive ignorance about getting this thing going.( thats ok, even a blind pig will find an acorn once in a while) Ron Payne stopped by work today for a "to short of a vist".He has been very busy, caught up on the post here and promised to contact one of his friends to help me with the ends and outs of this thing.Hope it happens. Rainer,Ron will be getting some free time after next week..we talked about it,,how about us getting together for breakfest finally.I have been busy with some personal family biz,Susan , my wife,was called back to the docs for a second mamagram.The wanted to do some biopsy on some things they found.Susan has some sort of invasive cancer in her left breast..every womans( and husbands) fear..breast cancer.She has to under the knife as soon as possiable next week.We find out the details when we call the doc back,noon monday.MERRY Christmas,you have breast cancer.Soooo,I will handle the assoc, thing monday morning,then i just dont know about my "free time". I have checked under the irs heading I am trying to get for our non taxable status.its section 501 (c) (19) if you want to look for yourself.It states that a certian percentage MUST be war veterans.Thats cool,as gently says, we can have associates galore.My working on this isnt stopping,just kinda have a higher priority right now,but the work will continue.Paul, thanks buddy, i have gotten the tape,watched it last night.I also went to the web site you talked about.had a hard time with 129th ahc,will try lane army airfield.I did ,however,get hits on 60th ahc,my other unit.The is a good,sometimes funny,sometimes not,2 hour interview with one of the pilots I knew and flew with.It will take you back.Some of the questions ask,i tried to answer in my mind first. a few surprises,but not many.Will come back on line monday evening to post results of vist to tax folks and up date on Susan.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 16:41:47 (MST)

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Animal, I could go for some Iced Beer....MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 14:29:16 (MST)

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Hello everyone, especially the newbies.I've been away for a time. Please add my name to the list of DVD recipients, as I was in the 498th for awhile(May-Jul 71). I will gladly compensate the sender for time and expense........Good job with the non-profit, Fred. Maybe I can help with Vinyl window stickers, or other membership perks; (etched beer/iced tea mugs?)...........While in Chigago the wedding will keep me busy Sat15Jan, but I will make sure Sunday the 16th is open for breakfast,Brunch,lunch, dinner or whatever is convenient for 129th family and friends. If Evanston is inconvenient I can travel somewhere else in the area...Great Commo,............Aloha, Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 14:04:25 (MST)

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okay guys i went back to the school today and recreated the search where i found the records when you get to the site click on search vva.when the search form comes up enter LANE ARMY HELIPORT under keyword scroll down click documents click english for language, click limit to available online and then go to left side and click start search. should come up with 5 hits. click on display results. the list will come upclick on the 73 page document with the correct record number.i used netscape 7.1 for the browser and the pdf was opened with adobe reader 6.0. i did this 4 times and came up with the same results.you are right if you search 129 ahc those records do not come up even though 129ahc appears in the title.beats the hell outta me. any of you guys that want the dvd rick has taken over making the copies and distributing them.he can do them much cheaper than i could.the dvd is in the mail on its way to him. KATHY no need to send me any money but if you want to send some to rick so we can keep this going and let everybody get a copy. his name is rickard jensen and his address is on the contact page.ALVISdid you get your copy? hope that helps get you guys into that website paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 13:51:34 (MST)

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Hi everyone:>))))))))))) New friends>>>>>>>>>>.always welcome! My thoughts on membership: only you Veterans should be members, the rest of us would be "associates." As such we would not having any voting rights, but would have speaking rights. Kim, let me know the $$$$ you want for the video from Paul. I'm so-o looking forward to watching it. Bracelet bid: $576. With a smile-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 09:40:24 (MST)

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Paul McGrath - What field on the 'search' form on the virtual Vietnam site did you put in '129 ahc'? I tried in the keyword/item/number and got 11 hits, none of which were either record number 94718 or 94723. Help?
Dave Powers
USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 09:23:59 (MST)

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Paul, we dont have a dvd player today but kenneth has decided to move into this century and buy one think week. he he If you will email me your address at I will send yu a small check to help send the dvd to others as well. I have been talking with George Marshal on the phone for the last 3 months and we have found we have a lot in common between us. I havent seen him post on his condition for a while. Does anyone know how he is doing physically? I am probably going to call him today to see how he is doing because I feel like we share so much ourselves since we are both disabled. Sue and Jim, Kenneth was at Lane Field in mid 70 to just before easter offensive in 71 and was actually a medic and motor pool worker for the 498th. Mark, you have helped many of the 129th to reunite but it is also helping many of the 498th to remember good and bad times at Lane Field and to reunite a few of them. Great site with loving, caring people. Kathy
Ken and kathy blevins
South Point, OH USA - Friday, December 10, 2004 at 03:01:44 (MST)

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Alvis, I did a google search and found http://www.constitution.org/rror/rror-01.htm it has the revised Roberts Rules of Order. Try looking there, also if you have a chance can you burn me a copy of the disk. Thanks Rainer
Rainer Bauer
Indy, USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 19:41:31 (MST)

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rick;went back thru the posts and found 4 people in line for copies,kieth letson,bernie hernandez,don miller and jim westwang.dvd is in the mail and on its way to you. if i missed anybodylet rick know.i have covered kim,gently,alvis,mark,and ken and kathy blevins the dennis that i said got into that site was dennis fursteneau paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 17:39:29 (MST)

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Fred, I picked up a concise guide of Robert's Rules of Order (newly revised) last night at the library and have been reading. I know enough now to become the High Commander as John Lithgow was in 3rd rock from the sun. Just kidding. I am reading and understanding as I go. If someone else wants to do the same, it sure couldn't hurt to have more than a couple of people that know what to do in a meeting. Hope everyone is ok,.... Robbie
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 15:57:05 (MST)

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Alvis, there are condensed versions of Robert's Rules of Order. They can be found at most any Union Hall, School District, town office. The rules of Parlimentary procedure are fairly simple to follow. The only time there is a problem is when the person in charge, moderator, chairman etc, lets somebody play some political game. I have a couple condensed versions in my briefcase ( no, I'm not some blankety blank corporate executive!!)that I could send if necessary. Paul and Gently, I finally stopped at the store and picked up a couple balnk tapes. I'll get them copied and everything in the mail by Saturday. clear left....
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 15:36:51 (MST)

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Mark, When you get ready to work on the museum let me know if you need some help. I will load up with the tools and come down for a week or maybe even two. Anyone else out there with time on your hands? Gus
Ted Gustafson
Grand Rapids, MN USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 14:18:17 (MST)

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Paul G. Yes brother I got the CD. Thanks brother..Alvis.I volunteer for all the jobs we need to have an association but if I can only hold one, historien would work with the Pop-A-Top Museum and all coming up. Alvis, thatnks for all the you have done for us in becoming an association. That alone probably has givin you PTSD. Is so good to here that so many check in everyday to see what is going on...Hey fred Skaggs, I recall you saying something about dental work and a new job. Hope all is going well for you. God Bless you all and THANKS for being out there for me........Happy Holidays..........
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 12:51:23 (MST)

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kathy and ken;do you have a dvd player?as i told ken the copy that you guys will get is coming out of michigan. i had sent this person a copy and it would not work on his player so i arranged for kim to copy to vhs and i told bernie to send the dvd to you because i thought you had a way to play it.the copy worked in my player so i'm hoping that his player was just an older one.RICK i will send out the original today and if you want money to help with making copies and postage let me know. i was buying mailing envelopes at the post office because it was easy and they cost1.15 and postage was 1.06.as far as the web site there was someone named dennis , i believe, and he was able to get into the site you might try getting a hold of him and find out what program he used.if it isn't a program problem,you should be able to type in the record number that i posted and it should come right up.MARK andALVIS did you guys get the copies i sent you? thats it for now i need to get some sleep. will check back tonite paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 11:48:54 (MST)

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Alvis I haven't had a chance to ask Gary Hennessy if he knows you but you can bet your ass he does, I've heard him mention your name.I plan on being in San Antonio for the reunion, If you plan on being there it would great to finally meet you. My Ce Bruno Sanchez is planning to be there also, haven't seen him since we both left Nam on stretchers. Take care. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Utah USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 07:10:10 (MST)

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Alvis I haven't had a chance to ask Gary Hennessy if he knows you but you can bet your ass he does, i've heard him mention your name.i plan on being in San Antonio for the reunion, If you plan on being there it would great to finally meet you. My Ce Bruno Sanchez is planning to be there also, haven't seen him since we both left Nam on stretchers. Take care. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Utah USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 07:09:54 (MST)

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Thank you Sue and Jim for offering your help. We already have the claim going in bits and peices but didnt know it would put him out of work so fast. I may need some help from others in the future and it is nice to know that all of you exist. Paul, I didnt know kenneth had talked to you last night about the dvd was on its way. I am looking forward to receiving the dvd and am willing to help in any other ways I can help anyone. Since Paul is sending me a dvd copy, please disreguard my asking for help with a vhs. Thanks Paul and Sue and Jim and everyone on board Kathy
Kathy and Ken
USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 06:58:48 (MST)

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Kathy & Ken - welcome to the 129th Flight Log! It's a good crew. Jim was in VietNam in '66-'67. His birthday is Dec 26 so y'all will be seeing his bio before too long. Alvis, I have more years than I want to mention at office experience, Word, Excel - if I can be of service, please ask -I'm more than willing. Anything......Hi, to all. We touch base everyday with the Log. Sue H.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 06:26:07 (MST)

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I want to thank everyone for welcoming us to the 129th board. Kenneth has been put off the road now as a truck driver permanently because of his PTSD claim. I guess we will be on the same road now as several of your trying to convince to VA that his is service connected too. Paul, you talked to kenneth last week and he told you I could burn dvd and I cant. I sure would like to get in touch with anyone that is able to make be a vhs and send it to me before christmas. I am willing to pay whatever the cost is to make and mail it if someone will just call me at 740 894 3013. I watch this board every morning and love to see what all of you are doing for the 129th and others. I wanted to come to the party last weekend at the pop a top but kenneth probably could not have handled the memories that all of the museum artifacts would have brought back at this time. Sounded likd a great party and I hope some time in the future there will be another mini reunion like that, so we can attend also. Thanks everyone for making my day each morning.
Kathy and Ken Blevins <,mawmawblevins@yahoo.com>>
South Point, OH USA - Thursday, December 09, 2004 at 02:28:03 (MST)

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will be glad to serve as you need me, anything for the outfit>>>>Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 23:06:43 (MST)

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Paul, Let me know what the postage is. If is is just a couple of bucks. I should be able to do the copies and postage for less than 5 bucks.
Rick
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 21:37:55 (MST)

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Paul, Just send the DVD. Picked up some DVD+Rs tonight at a reasonable price so if anyone orders one they can just send me the money, OK. Was nice talking with you. Did a little more looking around at that sight but have not found those pictures yet.
Rick
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 21:29:22 (MST)

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alvis;will membership be open to non 129thers? when in doudt hold on to your altitude no one ever colided with the sky paul
paul
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 19:34:19 (MST)

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we need someone to work up a membership application. Rick,will you be the "company store" guy?Quarter master or sarg.at arms, something like that?Jim ( smitty), company chaplin?we need a company paryer .Anyone else want to volinteer to help get things going? Taking Toms suggestion, i am going to try to "borrow" by-laws and some sort of charter.Hopefully, Robbie will also run across something like that in the book he is getting. If all this sounds ameturish,brother,thats just what i am.happy holidays.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 19:28:47 (MST)

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the only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
paul
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 19:12:11 (MST)

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Once you have tasted flight you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward,for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo DaVinci
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 17:45:21 (MST)

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go to the vert. wall,see tom becker/david stover.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 15:28:55 (MST)

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yes gently,both my roomies were killed april 18th 1972,at the top of Vung Row Pass,after leaving a korean firebase.crashed and burnt,bodies brought back in c-ration boxes,or what was left of them.Crash and burning sucks,for the crew members and those that cared about them.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 15:23:39 (MST)

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Paul and Kim, thank you. I now have something to be enthusiastic about:>)) Alvis, kia roomates in April '72? The bracelet bid is at $576 and the bidding will stop on the 17th at 4:30PM CST.....just an FYI. Mark, ya done good. With a wink-Gently b
Gently
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 15:16:30 (MST)

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Fred, I'll get right on it. Not sure about being a commander or anything like that. I've always had a bit of a problem with authority. Comes from being an EM for so long I guess. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 15:10:21 (MST)

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jim westwang;i see from your post you are having trouble with the texas tech web site. it is kind of confusing so i'll try to walk you thru iti first went to thier search and typed in 129 ahc. it came back with a list of hits, scroll down thru the hits to find correct document click the white box in the upper left corner and the words full report in the right corner and then go to the bottom of the description and there are 2 symbols that say pdf click on the first one and it will give you the first 50 pages, the second one gives you the remainder.they are pdf documents so they take a while to load. be patient.when i did them on the school computer they took 3-4 minutes and that was on a large mainframe computer.if you see a notice of browser incompatibility then you're screwed,if you don't be patient and it will load.if a record has a circle with a line thru it it is not available on the internet.hopefully that will get you into it. don't be afraid to use the help page. if you still have trouble they have tech support but that could take some time. if all else fails read directions. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 15:08:53 (MST)

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sure can robbie,if you will, go to the library,get a copy of "Roberts Rules Of Order" and take charge of elections. Darn thing is over 700 pages long. There,if no-one cares,Robbie can be commander,president,whatever we will call the big guy,untill elections are held. Smile, you ask...
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 14:54:30 (MST)

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rick; my email is idapaul at yahoo. forgot to put that in last message
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 12:10:35 (MST)

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rick; sounds like you are the man. if you can send me your mailing address i will send you the original if you will send it back to me. gently talked to kim last nite on the phone and he is going to send his copy of the dvd to you after he gets it copied to vhs. i will leave it up to rick to keep up with requests.if you have trouble playing any of the dvd's try a different machine not all discs work in all machines. i have only had trouble with one so far. all the ones that i sent worked on my dvd player so they are good.i have got to get off here and go study for a final exam catch ya all later paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 11:47:29 (MST)

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Fred A. you deserve a really big pat on the back for what you have done and continue to do in setting up the 129th as a not for profit organization. If there's anything that I can do to help you in anyway from NY, let me know, and a slow hand salute to the Pop-A-Top.....Robbie
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 11:17:21 (MST)

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just a few things to add... the "EIN" number is good worldwide.Don,has already made a good start in showing his plublic relations talent ( his web site) and i could go on with others but I need to get to doing some personal biz..I am trying to establish a ptsd claim as well as doing this. happy holidays,alvis
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 09:18:49 (MST)

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129th assauly helicopter assoc.,up date 2.....Ok folks and flight, the 129th assault helicopter association.( aka 129th ahc assoc.),is now a federaly recoginized enity.We have an "EIN" number.Step one is finished.In the next couple of days,I will run to the State tax office and get it set up here as well,so we can go for the tax exempt,non proffit thing.Another reason I MUST go is that I am legal owner of this "business.I am going to the library to find out how to turn the 129th assoc. over to duely elected officers,as it belongs to us all,and it must stay that way.I have a vacation comming up next week,so time will be ample for me to turn this over to you,the true owners. I have to check,but offices I can remember that need to be filled are,commander,vice commander,historian,treasurer,sargt of arms,chaplin,and a plublic relations officer.I will find out for sure later today.This is the time for you guys ( and ladies) to have input.The Tax folks advised me NOT to post the "EIN" number in here,but to give it to whom ever is going to do our finacial biz.If its ok with you guys,i will appoint officers for ..say a 2 week period,then elections can be held.This stuff is starting to get over my head,I must go slowly,thats why I wish to turn over everything to you guys, for some help and no distractions from persueing our non proffit goal.Gently (hint hint) is doing a wonderful job,already has the records,enjoys it and, in my opinion,should continue, ( hint hint).Mark jackson,with the work he has done,is doing and continues to do,should, at the least, be historian,or Alex.Alex has done so much work over the years,perhaps he should be the first commander, his guidence has been right on.I myself, seek no office.As I said, I just want to get this thing up and running and non proffit.I hope someone is elected from each section of the country,but thats for you guys to decide.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 08:59:58 (MST)

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...Hello Flight........sorry for not being in for a spell..........still doing things ya gotta do when your Pop passes. Lots a things that deal with his businesses and investments..Yeah, that Pop-A-Top was a great time Saterday night. I think it was harder on the Vietnam vets then it was me. Will miss the brotherhood of Vets that hung there but that brotherhood will still exist with the Museum............The Pop-A-Top walls are empty now. All is done, including the rotor blade. got that dang thing down by myself. Good ole' marine Corps engineuity. you would think that I would be sad about it all, but actually am very glad that I have fllowed my God and heart on the matter of closing and selling the place. it has been a lesson in life for me. Hard one to learn, but a good one to learn. It was great to Alvis and Suzzie there.All the Herd guys were great.I love them guys as much as I love you guys..............well better get back to work..will let all of you know when the Museum it started....God Bless you all.......always a brother,
Mark
USA - Wednesday, December 08, 2004 at 08:53:20 (MST)

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I can burn the 8.5 GB or 4.7 GB media with this new 16x dvd burner.
Rick
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 21:02:37 (MST)

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Bernie, Dave.. Hey bernie, I was with the 1st/ 10th at carson, out in the mule barn area. didnt know Glenn Miler.Tell you buddy tyhat was with the 60th,I was the guy that roomed with the 2 kia's in april of 72.I am also the guy they sent to siagon to see a shrink cause i threatend,and was going to , kill a Pilot captian, being the no good son of a bitch that he was, and I am sure, still is. Smile, perhaps that why the vhpa still wont hold reunions with the vhcma crewmen. Dave,I lived on high street in Manitou springs,it was up the hill from the cop shop and the park.Cops pulled a raid on my house there,shrug,I dont regret what I smoked back then ,nor selling a rather large bag, now and then.I was there when the first big gas shortages occured,left in the late 70s for wyoming ( casper) then up to montana on the crow indian reservation,then back to rawlins wyo.Left there to bum around france and europe for 3 months,then moved back down to tennessee.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 21:01:41 (MST)

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Sounds like Rick is the answer,he has 2 dvd burnersmwhere as i can only burn cds.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 20:41:50 (MST)

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Yes, i would love to have a copy of the DVD, i have a CD burner but only a DVD player, My computer is pretty big with windows xp but could not gain the Texas tech site where the 71-72 stuff is. Thats when i was there, will keep trying Thanks, Smitty
jim westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 19:51:58 (MST)

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I would love to have a copy of the DVD. let me know who will be making the copies and I will send a blank DVD or funds which ever you want. it sounds like a great time was had by all at the Pop-A-Top. I wish I wasn't 2500 miles away. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 19:09:12 (MST)

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I'll try and remember to get to a store tomorrow afternoon, after work. Then I can send my copy to someone. I hate to give away any surprises about what's in the flick, but, we gunnies never got to do med caps. So, when I saw a round eye woman walking around with the dustoff guys, it was quite a shock!!! It seems the only American women I saw in Nam were the nurses in Qui Nhon, or the donut dollies who came to Lane a couple times.
Kim
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 16:01:24 (MST)

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Paul, I have 2 DVD burners. If I can help let me know.
Rick
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 15:39:56 (MST)

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Fred A. - I lived in Manitou Springs, in the last half of '72 and the first half of '73. My roomie's wife used to wash our clothes at the laundromat across the street. She came back home to catch a TV show while doing the wash. She went back over there afterwards and somebody had stolen all our underwear. Interesting neighborhood.
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 14:40:08 (MST)

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Paul if i can help off set the cost do let me know, thank you. Alvis I do remember Cookie, did you know Gene Miller I gunned with him many a time, he went to the 201st Red Barons. The last I ever seen him was when I was at Ft. Carson, I was with the 2nd of the 10th and he was on leave before heading for his new station in Arkansas. Alvis I got to the 61st in early Oct of 71, were you there also? I have a good friend (here in Ogden, Utah)whose name is Gary Hennessy and I believe he knows you, he was with the 60th also. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Ut USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 13:08:05 (MST)

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gently ,bernie and kieth. i have your requests for the dvd and i want all to see it that want to.i just don't have any way to reproduce it.to get the copys i have i have been going to a computer store and getting it copied at 7.50 a piece. so i'm going to have to see if somebody on here can sucessfully burn some copies. the computer that i run is one i picked up at a surplus auction at the school for 16 dollars, so it's not capable of much.lets see if alvis or mark can do copies. if so i'll send some discs to whoever can make copies and we'll do it that way. maybe we should ask for a contribution to the christmas fund?we'll work it out.i don't think that this is able to be found anywhere else. catch ya later paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 12:27:42 (MST)

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Hey Bernie,do you remeber a gunner named Glenn Cook,called,of course,cookie?He was with the 61st,then transfered to the 60th ahc about the same time as you were.I flew with him (with the 6oth ahc),then roomed with him back stateside,out side of Fort Carson, in MANITOU sPRINGS.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 10:56:14 (MST)

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Paul, If you have an extra DVD copy I would like one please. I was with the 61st and then went over to the 129th in Jan-Feb 1972.I went to Helicoptor Repairman Course and Door Gunners School with a guy that was with the Medivac Unit at Lane, can't remember his name but he had blond hair and his glasses were kinda thick, I wish I could remember his name, I was door gunner on "426" that crashed below the Korean 1st company during the Easter Tide Offensive April 1972. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Utah USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 08:33:55 (MST)

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Paul, If you have an extra DVD copy I would like one please. I was with the 61st and then went over to the 129th in Jan-Feb 1972.I went to Helicoptor Repairman Course and Door Gunners School with a guy that was with the Medivac Unit at Lane, can't remember his name but he had blond hair and his glasses were kinda thick, I wish I could remember his name, crashed below 1st company during the Easter Tide Offensive April 1972. "426"
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Utah USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 08:32:57 (MST)

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I'd love a copy! Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 07, 2004 at 06:20:27 (MST)

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Thanks PAUL, LOOKING FORAWRD TO THE MAILMAN NOW. I can burn cd's,if anyone wants a copy.Yes Smitty,your at the top of the list.Will have to check out that web site,sounds great. Thanks again Paul.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 21:23:32 (MST)

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Susan and I pulled into Coldwater,just after dark. Spotting the the 129th company colors,the same as the Pop a Top sign,a sign saying "Dedecated to all verterans", we found a place to park in a crowed parking lot.Susan remarked to me how cold it was as we walked thru the parking lot, passing many cars and trucks with vietnam bumber stickers, airborne,from different states.The sargent of arms was standing outside the door,smoking and gathering some fresh air.He spotted my 129th hat,grined broadly,then gave me the first of many hugs to follow,once we were inside.The music coming thru the frosty air was that of the 60s and 70s,laughter and good humor could be heard,as we stood,.the 3 of us alone, outside the front door.With another shiver,Susan tugged me into the beckoning warmth of friendship,brotherhood,smiles and heaters. The palce was crowded,many eyes turned our way to see if a long lost brother and arrived.I noticed a few familar faces in a sea of friendly,smiling, faces.Spotting Mark at the far end of the bar,we made our way there.More hugs,smiles ,joyous shouts,greeted us when we finally made it to him. Behind us stood a pool table,converted to a buffet, heaped and piled high with an array of foods,all steaming and inviting.Thru the smokey,bar-room air.I looked at the many 129th objects hanging from the walls and cealings.Knowing comrads.some of them friends,some no longer wih us,had once touched and owned these things,brought a bit of nostalgia to me.Everywhere you looked,a bit of the 129th popped up.There is even a sign,a genuine army sign,saying something about Bong Song air space.NOW that brought back a few memorys best forgotten.A few speeches were given by the current 173rd president,awarding plaques for this and that.Time to eat,then Santa walked in,a short fat guy with an slim female "elf" about a foot taller than him. Presents were distributed,as all were ask to bring a gag gift,costing under 10 bucks.Susan had found "raindeer dropping" ( choclate covered rasins) , which we added to the pile.The Band started up with " run thru the jungle" by credence clearwater.It got better from there.Mark was on stage,singing away with the lead singer,when Gus called.Folks dancing on stage and in the isles.About that time Spence had to leave, he was tired.He had worn an out-rageous wig to cover his radiation induced bald head...an anti-ego thing,he being the fun loving,generous,kind man he is.Folks cruised around,many stopping by to say thank you to the helicopter crews that saved their ass or just made life bareable for them over there.They had never had the chance to say thank you to a helicopter person,so I pass that on. In there eyes we were the crazy ones,the ones that always responded when no-one else would. They are very proud of us,I wish each and evey one of you could have been there, those grunts couldnt say enough good things about us.Those warriors,those hard fighting,mud slinging,brave,warriors,hold us in the very warmest of memorys.Time after time,I heard stories of things they couldnt believe we did,all for them, our brothers.The common thread was, we were there for them when everyone else called off.Call the helicopter dudes,they dont give a shit,they will help us.I was proud wearing the 129th patch,you should be too.The 129th has stood down now, passing into history,as had the pop a top.We saluted the lowering of the flag and the colors,a private moment,each of us remembering our own war.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 20:57:05 (MST)

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kim;i'll collect one of these days. i may get back to maine one of these days as i am originally from connecticut.check out the virtual vietnam archive also if you can. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 19:42:19 (MST)

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Paul, I got the DVD in the mail today. Just got done watching it. I'm flashing back big time right now. There were so many things I'd either forgotten, or suppressed about life over there. Thanks a million!!!! If any one else wants to see it, just let me know, and I'll send it along, AFTER I make a vhs copy!!! Thanks again Paul. :>)) I owe you one!!!
Kim
USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 19:37:53 (MST)

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dennis;you just made me a very happy person. i have been on this damn computer every chance i have had for a few months now trying to get info for myself but can't find much on medical units because of realignments and such. i was getting depressed and ran across the stuff today. so i figured i'd post it.when you came back and said you saw a picture of yourself it made me realize i'm not wasting my time,altho my wife might have a different opinion thanks paul all you 129thers need to check it out
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 18:46:33 (MST)

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I have just been reading the commo and Paul's caught my eye. I did the research and here is the complete web site www.vietnam.ttu.edu/virtualarchive just cut and paste to the address line. I was really surprised to be able to see my picture after all of these years. Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau
Haines City, Fl USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 17:40:10 (MST)

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mark and alvis;the dvd went out in the mail today you should have them in a couple of days. i was doing some research today at school and ran across a web site called virtual vietnam archive. it comes out of texas tech and it had a record for 129th ahc. i looked at it andit had a 73 page booklet full of pictures from 71-72. don't know if you guys know about it. it is record #94718 alsorecord#94723 has some more on it. i didn't have time to open the second one but it said it was 7 pages of excerpts.these records can be opened on your computer as long as your browser is compatible.thats the reason i had to go to the school because mine wasn't.the 73 page one was 50plus pages of pictures(black and white). just thought you guys might be interested paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 13:45:57 (MST)

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Rotor Tail Bracelet high bid is $576.00. AS a reminder, the bidding will be over on December 17th at 4:30 PM(CST). Waiting to hear stories about the Pop on Satruday and our trip plans to Chicago in January. With a smile-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 06, 2004 at 08:37:02 (MST)

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Just want to say hello!
online degree <miami@hotmail.com>
NY, NY USA - Sunday, December 05, 2004 at 16:32:01 (MST)

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for those of you that know spence,he was his same old self,for a while.Chemo and radiation treatments are taking their toll. He looked good,but has lost his hair and a little weight. Its a tough fight but he is still swinging.( he kicked his docters ass while he was still somewhat under).Hopefully,that old warrior will win this battle.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 05, 2004 at 16:03:15 (MST)

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Well, the Pop a Top has stood down.Sorry Gus, Mark was on stage singing with the band when you called,they heard 129th,so handed the phone to me.Yes, I took( and susan) a few pics.Yes Smitty,one was taken of your chicken plate.Saw a very nice newsletter from the 173rd,best I have seen.Slow hand salute to "pop a top".
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 05, 2004 at 04:48:09 (MST)

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stopped by Rons house, he wasnt home.Looked at the map to see where Evanston is,dont know if I want to drive thru chicagos legendary traffic nightmare to get there, we will see.Still dont know if I will have that weekend off anyway.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 04, 2004 at 12:03:39 (MST)

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this is getting a little tiresome.Mark, we will be there about 6 pm
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 04, 2004 at 09:50:22 (MST)

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Mark, the "EIN" number I am trying to get monday is just simply the federal Employment tax number any and all business have to have.Its a very small "first step",but its the neccesary one,nothing else can be done before its gotten.The second step is getting an Indiana tax number.This can be gotten in any state for that state,shrug,its just easier for me to do since the Indiana State tax office is only about 8 miles from my house.We will talk more on this when I see you tonight at the "Pop a Top".I will bring what paperwork I have,its easier than remembering all of it.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 04, 2004 at 06:01:50 (MST)

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good input Tom, thanks a milion.Perhaps I can get that softwear thru the libaray.The American Legion world headquarters is here,near the federal building, hmmm, wonder if anyone there will help..I am trying to go with the 501(c)(19),which is the code for veterans orgs.If you have been thru this,You have my sympathy.Its looks,and reads, pretty intimadating.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 04, 2004 at 05:43:42 (MST)

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if you click on my name below it will take you to a page that has 2 pictures of the bracelet. it is actually last years bracelet but it is made exactly the same. this chain is from a friend of mine that brought it home in 1969. we went in the army 2 weeks apart and he went to Nam right after school and I went to Germany first. this chain is "new" it was never installed on a bird because one link was bad and wouldn't bend properly. I wish it had been on a bird but at this point you take what you can get. at least it was over there. I wear mine every day too even though company policy says no bracelets. the boss knows what it means and doesn't give me any trouble about it. Later, Don
Don Miller
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 22:52:53 (MST)

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Alvis, Just to let you know, there is a software package out there called "not for profits for dummies". (not that I am saying anyone is a dummy). This computer package spells a lot of that stuff out step by step, when doing all the paper work for a 501c3 status. Also to make things easier, talk to a lawyer or a company that handles the incorporation process. If the money is right and the group could afford to do it then I can say this, getting a 501c3 will be quick. Also just one other thing to point out, I found another helicopter unit that is a 501c3 and restores helicopters (I will try to find them on the web again)as well the VHCMA is a 501c3, if they are willing to, you can get copies of their Articles of Incorp, bylaws, and other what-nots do a little cut-a little paste and then send it off to the Feds. They will want a proposed budget which is not to hard. If you do it yourself it could take up to six months. That is not a bad time frame. I have learned a lot about the whole not-for-profit thing because of some work I am wrapped up in now, so I have to apologize for giving you all this info without taking any action myself to help out. However, if I can be of any assistance just get up with me at ragonese@delaware.net. Once the unit has that 501c3 you can raise money for whatever you want and the best part is that the unit is tax exempt. Once you have that 501c3 a lot of doors can open up, like getting a Helicopter as a museum piece to park out in front of the Pop-A-Top. Good luck.
Tom Ragonese
Dover, USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 21:15:44 (MST)

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Alvis...thats ok with me. Put my name down.......When all said and done, will the tax exempt # be good in Ohio too????...thats where that Pop-A-Top Museum will be where we will want to get the Military equipment for display.....
Mark
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 20:34:23 (MST)

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Shure would appreciate a copy of CD....onereb(at)bellsouth.net
Keith 72-73
corinth, ms USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 19:33:54 (MST)

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Been a while.....I`ve been caught up in "dental implants" 24 of them, then they took skin from the "roof of my mouth" and made new tight gums. Alot of pain......but alot of great painkillers :).....legally. It`s called being poor in America in the 50`s, and spending money on "food and clothing and shelter" instead of dental care. You ALL know what great dental care the Army gave us......"To hell with a root-canal....pull it!!!! But I`m back to normal.....One more small thing has change, I took a job with a "major luxury hotel chain"....A management position. I have everything from Washington D.C., VA., N.C., S.C., GA., Fl.....I have a pretty good background in construction, and contracts, working with Unions, and prevailing wage jobs, deadline bonds.......We are going thru a major refurbishing of all our hotels and I`m working with the Operating Engineer and construction company`s of each hotel. I`ve been flying and putting in 10 and 12 hour days and just trying get in the "groove" of working period. With the travel and hours I put in.....that nice salary, looks VERY small.....And I have to use my brain again and keep it clear, there`s no time for "partying". BTW....I passed my drug test.....10 years with the company and I will become vested in their retirement plan and can draw 65% of my salary at retirement (65 years old). Well it`s 8:30 on a Friday night and I`m going to bed. I got to get up in the morning and catch a flight to Columbia,S.C. for a 2:00pm meeting with some construction people and a hotel engineer. Yea alot of week-ends, but I`m taking off Monday for a dental appt., and TUESDAY, December 7th for my 54th brithday.... Kim LaVoie, keep in touch bro.....Charlie Brown, I got your phone call, but was just beat and went to bed and forgot, I`m sorry bro I`ll 'kick it back in a few days TO YOU".....Baron.....I know you`re out somewhere, I hope and pray everyone of you are doing fine and at peace. I`m pretty sure "the company" monitors my e-mail...so I don`t use THEIR lap-top for anything but business and home e-mail to the wife. ......Mark......I hope and pray that the "brothers and sisters" of the 129th and your family and hometown friends are filling that heavy void in your life.....BTW,...I`m down to a "half-pack" of cigarettes a day, airport is non-smoking, cabs are non-smoking, rent-a-cars don`t have ash-trys and sometimes will put a little sur-charge when they smell it!!!! Hotel is changing to a NON-smoking hotel period....no smoking rooms at all. It`s a "insurance thing" for the hotels with 20 or more floors. I`M GONE.......
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 19:22:25 (MST)

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alvis;boy do i feel stupid. found your address on contact page. will send out that dvd monday paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 17:17:29 (MST)

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Saterday,the 15th of jan., is the day Animal's sister is getting married. We can either have an early sunday morning breakfeast,or need more info from Animal as to when Sis's wedding is.( time and place). May I suggest ,perhaps, a cracker Barrel restaurant near one of the exits close to where Animal will be? I am ,of course, open to suggestions.Oh, two more notes about the association.If mark is unwilling or if it makes more sense,perhaps gales name may be added as a third party. Secondly, the "application for Recognition of Exemption' under 501 (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code,is 29 pages long. My head hurts already.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 15:29:43 (MST)

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High bid----$550. I'll be back on Monday to update everyone. $550---very cool! GEEZ! Haven't heard from Spongeypants Markie Markie since his paltry $444.44. LOL!!! Be safe-loving ya-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 15:11:58 (MST)

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Mark, if its ok with you ,I am going to put your name,addy and telephone down where the papers are calling for a 3rd party.The reasoning behind this is..in case something happens to me,we wont have to start from ground zero again.If more than one name is attached to the number,then things can continue till its up and running with paperwork submitted.then its the 129ths membership number. I have broken this down into 3 phases.phase one in getting the " E.I.N." number,which should be done monday.Phase 2 is getting a state number,which I hope to do wensday.Phase 3,the longest and hardest,is getting the 129th helicopter association tax exempt.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 15:10:14 (MST)

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Rick Englands' compt has a virus so he wants me to wish the best to all attending the Pop-a-Top Christmas party Saturday: enjoy, laugh, and drive safely. What a guy! Oh, he's also taken the bid up to $500 for the bracelet. Phew! Gotta love em-Gently
Gently
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 14:57:30 (MST)

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Paul...that would be very cool! Let's see how that date works for the others:>)) GG:>)
Gently
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 13:03:34 (MST)

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kim i mailed that copy of the dvd to you today. yuo should get it middle of the week next week. mark i am getting a copy made for you. alvis please send street adress or po box number and i will send you a copy also.i believe you live in avon ohio is that correct.i probably be able to make chi town on jan 16 if that is okay with all. paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 13:01:53 (MST)

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So, are we looking at Sunday lunch Jan 16th in the Windy City with Animal and his dad? Yahoo!!!! And"Naughty Boy"..was that a bid for $500? I will be depositing $1300.00 today in the account for the Christmas Fund...thank you crew for what you have done so far! But we cannnot stop! I already know of one couple we must get to the re-union(air fare and hotel) and they're a long way from TX, so it's gonna cost us. And we all know there are others you want meet again after 30+ years or several years. Please dig in your pockets, even if it's only for $10. There are so many who can use our help getting to the re-union. Wouldn't it be great to see them again...that's the greatest part of the re-union: "Seeing them again." Every year could be the last opportunity...and that's way too sad. The thought of one of you not being able to meet, again, someone you knew 30+ years ago because one of you couldn't afford the trip, breaks my heart, so it ain't gonna happen on my watch(wink). So, please, let's try to get everyone there next June. Start gathering those old photos, videos, and momentos from Nam for display at the re-union:sometimes they confirm the tall tales we hear there(especially from Alvis and Smitty):>)))....one photo can spark alot of memories, and stories forgotten along time ago. Then, once Mark gives us alittle more info on the museum, you might want to donate them to it. A 129th collage covering a whole wall...phew! Anyway, I'm begging and I'm begging big time. How does that go...oh ya, "leave no one behind." With great hope for the best re-union ever-Gently One more thing...can't wait for the card, Gale:>))) They're always so cool:>))
Gently
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 10:25:23 (MST)

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129th ahc assoc. update,(1).Spent 2 hours downtown,1 vist each to the state tax office and the federal tax office (irs). I now have enough forms,instructions,pamplets,in triplicate, that would exceed the gross take off limits of a UH-1.It seems the Federal tax number is easiest to acquire,beeing just a phone call away.The number for a non- profit organz. is somewhat more difficult and time consumming.I was lead to believe( by the state tax people) with these two numbers,a state tax number will be a shoo in.Glancing at the paperwork,we have much to discuss..by-laws,office holders,article of incorporation, articles of association,trust indenture,constitution,full discriptions of purposes and activities,finacial statements,balance shheets,budget..chuckle,and other stuff.Some of this may not apply ( for a non profit organz.), i will see as I wade deeper into the paperwork.I will submit another update when something of worth happens.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 10:16:00 (MST)

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P.S. If anyone wants a photo of what the bracelet looks like, e-mail me and I'll send it to you...... Thanks again Don....... ktf, ccbloomATllion.org
C.P. Bloomfield
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 07:56:46 (MST)

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Don Miller, Thank you so much Don!!!!!!!! Your gift of the bracelet is one of the nicest things we can do for our brothers and sisters of the 129th.... This "Tail Rotor Bracelet" is one of the most rare, and sought after, and one of the most sentimental mementos, that we could possibly have of our service in Vietnam......... The "pitch change" chain of the UH1 was changed later (sometime in the mid to later 70's) to a cheaper to produce "bicycle looking" chain..... So the bracelet you've donated is from OUR time frame..... Even more special...... I have one of these bracelets thanks to some SPECIAL people (and they know who they are) that got it for me back when....... It is one of my most precious mementos and my family and friends know just how much it means to me... It looks as good as any jewelry found out there...... Personally, there is no amount of money that would buy my bracelet, (now don't go tempting me guys!!) and I wear it every day with respects to those that have died, and to those brothers I served with....... I know that whoever gets this bracelet will cherish it as much as I do mine...... Thank You Don for sharing these memories with us.... Not only will the one that gets it enjoy it forever, but also the one(s) that receives the love from the money will benefit from your gift..... There is no better way that the chain could be used than by sharing it with your 129th family...... Again, Don, I hope you do realize just how special this is??????? Thank you so very much.......... ktf,
C.P. Bloomfield
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 07:51:23 (MST)

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Thats wensday thru monday for you folks without next years farmers almanac.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 05:59:54 (MST)

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Here's my itinerary: Arrive Chicago noon 12 Jan, attend wedding the 15th, depart on the 17th. I'll be accompaning my Dad from Dallas, who's having Chemo treatments and we're staying with my sister in Evanston. My niece is getting married and it will be a family reunion of sorts. I can't express what an honor and thrill it would be to see some of you folks; I don't get to the mainland much! Chicago un January, jeez, I don't even own a jacket, and my blood has thinned in the tropics! Alvis, Paul, Gently, Mark, CP Gale, Ron, Kim,..........I'm speechless..............Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Friday, December 03, 2004 at 01:32:01 (MST)

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heres a funny story from my uncle,a just retired delta pilot,the uncle shot down over Loas. This is supposed to be "tins". I forget the details,but heres the meat of it. A delta aircraft was flying cross country when for some reason they had to land mid- country because of warning lights. The pilot told the passengers that repairs would take about an hour,so they could deplane and strech their legs.There was a blind guy on board,who was know by the crew as he had flew this route a few times before. The pilot ask the blind guy if he too wanted to strech his legs.The guy declined but said if the pilot didnt mind,would he take his seing eye dog for a short walk.The pilot said ok,and as he debarked the aircraft,he still had on his sunglasses,being led by a seeing eye dog. chuckle,the story goes on to say "lots' of folks changed carriers after seeing the pilot come off the aircraft.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 21:05:20 (MST)

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Kim, please put me on the list after you.I can burn cd's as I have two cd thingies on my pc.thank you. That nam trip..a hotel for 105 dollars a night? A hundred dollars would damn nearly buy anson.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 20:50:36 (MST)

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kim you were first so i'll send you the copy that i have and i will get another made this weekend and send it off to mark the first of next week. after you guys see it if you could send it to someone else who is interested i would appreciate it as i don't have any way to burn copies myself paul
paul mcgrath
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 19:42:50 (MST)

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Paul.....our address is Mark Jackson, 816 East Vine st., Coldwater, Ohio 45828. When is the dates for this mini in Chi-town?......
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 19:09:45 (MST)

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Paul, my mailing address is: Kim La Voie 668 River Road, Livermore, Maine. 04253. I'd love to watch the video. January is not a good time to try travelling around the north country, but, It is worth checking out tickets to Chi town, if we can settle on a date. John...please come back!!!! Mark is really a closet liberal!!! I was just kidding... LOL
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 18:29:11 (MST)

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Fred hhow long in H9ong Kong hehehehehe. 500.00
Sassy Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 17:58:17 (MST)

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Gently.a National Washboard is the kind they used long time ago to wash cloths by rubbin' them on the board....
Mark
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 16:13:11 (MST)

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That would be SpongeMark Smartypants to you Gently.......At away ta go ya bunch of whackoes!!!!...ya must have scared John off. Haint heard from him since......
Sponge
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 16:09:26 (MST)

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Bid is at $450! The mini could happen!!!!! Alvis, Kal, Gale, Ron, Paul, Mark, C.P., Animal....who else? Animal when are you going to be aound? Always there for our Veterans-Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 13:35:52 (MST)

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alvis or mark;do you guys want that dvd? if i canget an address i will send it out. if you guys do have a mini in chicago i'm pretty sure i could make it just to meet some of you. some body send me an address
paul mcgrath <idapaul at yahoo.com ,or at ivnet.com>
oglesby, il USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 11:40:11 (MST)

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Bill French 68-69
Sav , Ga USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 11:10:40 (MST)

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$444.44 from smarty pants Mark Jackson....like I want to dink around with change:>))) Geez! Fortunately I got another bid for $450.00 and don't have to worry about it.. I hope.:>) Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 10:59:29 (MST)

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$401 LOL!!!!!
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 09:03:41 (MST)

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$400 from that naughty guy:>)) Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 07:58:30 (MST)

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$300 on the Rotor Tail Bracelet:>))) The bookie
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 06:55:16 (MST)

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Rick:>))) LOL! Alvis, a mini in Chicago? I'm in. Katherine, thank you for the important reminder of the 959. Let us try to be at Peace-they are. Mark, what's an International Washboard? Something to use your dirty laundry on:>))))? LOL again! Lovin ya all- Gently
Gently
USA - Thursday, December 02, 2004 at 06:50:31 (MST)

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Animal, its too early for me to plan anything.Chicago is 3..3 1/2 hours north . Who knows, maybe a mini reunion?....as perhaps a shared meal and coffee at some grease joint. I shall go down to indiana tax department friday and snoop around. I have found that if one usually acts stupid and grateful,the pen pushers will sometimes help.I believe we have to go by "roberts rules" (?) in an organazational chart of board members and a "forum" for anything to be voted on,passed ect.Thge forum is made up by a certian percentage of board members.Dues have to be established,membership rules and guidelines,voting procedures,terms of office,responsabilities of each office holder,savings/checking accounts,a newsletter,whether to post it or mail it..all kinds of stuff.But..let me just go snoop around,then perhaps a stop at the library.We also need to discuss who the assoc, will be open to.the 129th members of course,then their are the wives,kids, parents,next of kin, friends ...just things to think about.BY the way,the helicopter used in " The Shadow of the Blade" is now resting in the smiths. in Washington D.C. GALE..yes, the sun felt good today but after work (10:00 pm) , there was ice on my windshield.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 20:52:02 (MST)

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a slow, respectful, hand salute rendered.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 20:27:18 (MST)

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Slow hand salute to the crew of the "959"...............................
Mark
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 19:08:58 (MST)

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12/2/69 Michael Shanley, Van Den Eykle, Sanderlin and Dunlap were lost on the 959. May they always remain in our hearts and minds. Please take a moment to remember.
Katharine
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 16:22:45 (MST)

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You don't get parts for your ship if you sit in the hooch. hehehehhehehe
Sassy Rick England
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 15:30:20 (MST)

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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Lou's son check into the tax stuff and a non-profit status for us about six months ago? Lou? Help us out here. A person by the name of....tried to get a bid in on the bracelet....naughty, naughty....:>)))) LOL!!!! Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 15:18:18 (MST)

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Animal, you better bring two sweaters and maybe some earmuffs to Chicago! ;o) I'm not sure if there's anyone in Chicago, but, if you could make Indy there's about 5 or 6 129thers that could possibly hook up with you. Alvis, it wouldn't hurt to get some info on the tax excempt deal and go from there. Are you, Rainer and Ron planning on meeting for breakfast sometime again? Let me know. Rainer, thanks. Clear, Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 14:25:22 (MST)

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John, welcome home Brudda. I bet Dak-To wasn't to user friendly when you were there! Later ('71) it was where you went if you wanted to see NVA Armor....Paul, Welcome also; I was in the 498th briefly before coming to the 129th (Jul '71). Good people!.........Alvis, you must throw yourself on the mercy of the beaurocrats!! I mentioned earlier that I'd be in Dallas after thanksgiving... change of plans, it will be after January instead. I'll also be traveling to Chi-town for a family wedding around the 15th of January. Any of you in Chicago? Should I bring a sweater? Aloha Nui Loa, A Hui Ho !........Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 13:07:35 (MST)

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Flight, I am off friday.An idae has been bounching around in my bald head.As Indianapolis is the capital of Indiana,the state tax offices are here as well as a large federal building.I have been thinking of crusing down and trying to get started on a 129th ahc,tax number for a legal 129th ahc association.Any advice where to start? We would of course have to vote for officers,but I think it would be a good idea (if possible) to have where associctae members can hold office as well as those that served.(a for instance is gently holding the treasures position).As most of my experience with the law has been in front of a judge,standing there with my fingers crossed,hoping I didnt get time,I am open to lots of advice.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 10:22:45 (MST)

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Tis True, Mr. Beard,yet The softly fallen,virgin snow,laying as a blanket thruout the great state of Indiana,belies the warmth of yellow dancing sunbeams.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 10:09:11 (MST)

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Well crew, there you have it! It's official. We have are able to have another bidding war for one more, and quite possibky the last, Rotor Tail bracelet! Mr. Don Miller has come through once again. Don, you continue to blow us away. Now, the rules(like last year): bids can be made on this site or emailed to me directly. I will keep everyone updated daily with the top bid of the day. Well, I'll try. If you want to keep your name out of the bidding information I can do that for you:>)) That last day of bidding will be December 17th at 4:30PM(CST). Questions? The bidding will start tomorrow morning at 7AM(CST): this will allow for any changes(and begging you need to do, or budgets you need to check) in the rules due to good ideas any of you may come up with to make "the war" run more smoothly and be more fun. But let's not get "stuck," on too much red tape, ok? This is fun, remember. Last year we raised several hundred dollars for the Christmas Fund on this great donation from Don, and God Bless the loving wife who purchased it for her wonderful, wonderful husband(name is to remain unknown, sorry)! I love 'em both. Anyway, get ready, get set.....get the check books! :>)) Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 08:05:55 (MST)

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Alvis, Alvis, what's that yellow, warm stuff comin' out of the sky? Hey.....it's sunshine!!!
Gale
USA - Wednesday, December 01, 2004 at 07:49:51 (MST)

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