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Happy New Year to all....Fred A. I'd forgotten about that pass, seems that it was always windy there..a lot of cross currents, up and down drafts. Didn't we have a ship go inverted down there one time? I think the pilot was reprimanded for pppt.
Kim
Livermore, Me USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 20:27:25 (MST)

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hey Gale,there is a popular Aussie song that talks about every man needs his shed.Its also a popular saying over there. I think they nailed that one right on the head.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 19:52:20 (MST)

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Susan and myself,would like to extend our best wishes to each of you and your familys,in the forth coming new year.May more brothers find us at this site,may all our brothers be here for next years new year.oops,and sisters too.Thanks to you that have given me advice thru-out the year and the well wishes requarding my stil happy marrage.AN up date on something I talked about a while back. If you remember I had made a comment about geting a letter from my kia roomies mother.Taking your input to heart, I wrote her back. Couple of days ago I recieved another letter from her.Seems the army,in its wisdom,told her nothing except that "in the line of duty" crap.I wrote her about his friends,how he lived,all about his last day and where they went down, how beautiful a spot it is.some other stuff to.Anyway,in her second letter,she thanked me for many things,including info on where he died.She can now pinpoint it on the map.Before ,all she could do was look at vietnam and wonder.For those of you that remember,its the pass south of tuy hoa,called vung ro ( I think),will have to look again to make sure.I shared with her his last hours,his spoken thoughts at breakfast.I wrote that I didnt know why, untill now ,why I had survived.I told her that David had left me with precious memories to be held close and given back to her.Thats all he had left.Has it helped me? shrug,who knows,but I CERTIANLY know its helped a gold star mother find peace once more.That lady was so greatfull,its almost like her son was still kinda alive once more,in a very different way.For those of you taht ever have to face this,please do so. Her happyness, was way more important than self doubts and worries I had.I truely believe that that woman walks a little taller now.a little straighter now. Have a great new year my friends.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 19:47:43 (MST)

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Happy New Year Flight, WISHING ALL AND YOURS THE BEST FOR THE NEW YEAR ( YES EVEN YOU CUPS)..............tails clear left. Casey All of 70
Matthew Casey <Mcasey1947@msn.com>
Hemet, CA 92545 - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 16:55:33 (MST)

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Best of it ALL......to ALL of YA'LL......
Keith 72-73
USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 12:57:10 (MST)

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Want to wish everyone a safe and happy new year. The wife and I are doing fine. Got her a 1937 International ton and a half truck for Christmas and she got me a dish washer. Works for me... Clear left. Gus 67-69
Ted Gustafson
Grand Rapids, MN USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 09:48:40 (MST)

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FRIST SORRY MENT TO SAY HELLO TO ALL OK AGAIN HAPPY NEW YEAR RAY TO YOU ALL
RAY <STILLWATING@AOL.COM>
MD USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 09:26:41 (MST)

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Flight: Want wish all our 129th famliy a wonderful and safe New Years. The years seem to past by too fast. Let'say for soldiers overseas. INDY June 2004!!! Alex
Alex
Collierville, TN USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 08:16:33 (MST)

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HELL TO YOU ALL,, WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY NEW YEAR MAY ALL GOOD THING COME TO YOU ALL AND MAY WE SHARE ALL WITH OURB ROTHERS AND SISTERS GOD BLESS YOU ALL. AND MAY YOU ALL BE SAFE A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY <STILWATING@AOL.COM>
MD USA - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 07:11:18 (MST)

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WOW, thanks "pharmacy" !! That's better than any grade I ever got in school.....I think!? Flight, Wishing all of the 129th AHC family a very "Happy & healthy New Year"!!!!! Alvis, I'd be glad to do some tin work for ya. I bet you'll be glad to get you a garage. Thanks for the hospitality....Debbie & I enjoyed the visit. Actually, I don't mess with power tools while I'm down and/or drinking a few brewskies. Besides the normal power handsaws, I have a table saw, band saw, scroll saw and my drill press. I still have all my fingers and I like it that way. I have a buddy that let his mind wander while using his table saw and before he knew it, he was picking two fingers out of the wood scraps....didn't even feel it. If I get down, I go to the garage (or my infamous shed), crank up the Sansui on the oldies station, drink a few, open the door & fire up the gas grill, drink a few, throw some meat on the grill, drink a few, wipe my eyes & go in....unless, of course, a Huey or a Shithook flys over and that calls for a few more beers & tears......then I'm fine for 2-3 weeks. Debbie leaves me alone for that hour or two. She's such a sweet & understanding gal. As Rick would say: "Flight, be careful out there tonight". Clear, Gale
Gale 67-68
Clinton, IN US of A - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 06:24:25 (MST)

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I pray you all have a good one and a safe one. Have one for me...
Stacy McLain <smclain4@hotmail.com>
Flagpole, AZ USA - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 18:56:55 (MST)

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Robbie-don't you also paint? I remember you saying something in the past about painting rocks. My error? I read..rather I devour, non-fiction war history when I have time or need to escape. Wood working sounds so much better, or re-doing a home, but alas, 'tis reading for me. But don't think me boring;>)))))))). Always there for our Veterans-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 14:02:22 (MST)

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Fred A, when i want to sooth my soul I have to get busy doing something around the house. Whether it is picking up the hammer and banging away or refinishing a table or lamp or something. I am in the process of insulating and refinishing my front porch. New windows, ripped out the nasty blue paneling that was put in before i got here and putting up dry wall right now. I still have a 4 foot by 6 foot window to put in on the North side but will need some help with that. Also refinishing a round Phone table that was in my Grandmother's house for as long as i can remember. Lots of sanding with 6 round legs and some carving on it. The beauty is i have no one pushing me to finish it so i can take my time and do the job to my satisfaction.I had a good Christmas with my daughter and three grandkids. Well, i hope all the members are doing well. Love you all, Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 09:56:31 (MST)

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Sounds like we all had a safe Christmas. Fred and Gale....great that you two got together!!! Wish i could have joined you. I'm sure that Debbie and Susan hit it off-look out Kokomo!!! The Tail Rotor bracelet was sent and received-by a very surprised and happy 129er!!! Thank you again Don, and thank you to the wife who purchased the bracelet for her husband:>)). We're going to be keeping the $1325 until the re-union draws closer, our feeling is that by then we'll know better who could use it to get there. Mark called and sounded great.....just very very busy. We all understand that! And for 2004-I simply ask for peace and to bring our soldiers home. Always there for our Veterans-Gently
Gently
USA - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 12:22:25 (MST)

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1) How long did the Hundred Years War last? 2) Which country makes Panama hats? 3) From which animal do we get catgut? 4) In which month do Russians celebrate the October Revolution? 5) What is a camel's hair brush made of? 6) The Canary Islands in the Pacific are named after what animal? 7) What was King George VI's first name? 8) What color is a purple finch? 9) Where are Chinese gooseberries from? 10) What is the color of the black box in a commercial airplane? All done? Check your answers below! ANSWERS TO THE QUIZ 1) How long did the Hundred Years War last? *116 years 2) Which country makes Panama hats? *Ecuador 3) From which animal do we get cat gut? *Sheep and Horses 4) In which month do Russians celebrate the October Revolution? *November 5) What is a camel's hair brush made of? *Squirrel fur 6) The Canary Islands in the Pacific are named after what animal? *Dogs 7) What was King George VI's first name? *Albert 8) What color is a purple finch? *Crimson 9) Where are Chinese gooseberries from? *New Zealand 10) What is the color of the black box in a commercial airplane? *Orange, of course.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 21:10:09 (MST)

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Thank you gale.Was a nice vist with you two.For those who dont know,Debbie is quite an attractive gal,and nice, great combination.( must be the mustang) chuckling.Hey Gale, your quite the tin smith,what you say this spring,I build us a couple of pie safes, or something like that, and you do the tin work.Wish the airplane rocker I am building for mark was finished,looks better than spread about in parts.My intrest is very peaked in the carved canes Jim makes.Personally,I think thats pretty cool.Basically i believe that woodworking is very beneficial to my mental health.Tin smithing is probably that for you,as cane making is for jim and plants are for fred.When my mom called to inform me that a very close aunt(her sister) had died suddenly,I simply put down the phone,walked out to the shed,and started woodworking.Cant remember what i was building ,but at that time,that was excatly where i needed to be.Just me,the wood and my thoughts.Works when I get depressed or moody.Used to ride my harley at those times,that worked also,but havent had a bike in almost 20 years.I am sure it works that way for Smitty ,Ron and Robbie also. Gale , thats a good idea,what are others into? I also used to get that way when working on my old 67 ford pick up.People used to ask me why I kept it.It was good for the soul. soothing.What sooths you guys?What puts you in that tranquil place? over.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 21:02:36 (MST)

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Alvis, Debbie & I really enjoyed our visit with you & Susan Saturday night. I had no idea you were such a wood craftsman Fred. Flight, Alvis is quite the furniture builder.....it makes me wonder what hidden talents you all have out there. If you have a talent and don't mind braggin' on yourself ( no one else will, so.....) let us know what you are in to. It should be very interesting to us all. Clear, Gale
Gale
USA - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 15:33:22 (MST)

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Alvis, Debbie & I really enjoyed our visit with you & Susan Saturday night. I had no idea you were such a wood craftsman Fred. Flight, Alvis is quite the furniture builder.....it makes me wonder what hidden talents you all have out there. If you have a talent and don't mind braggin' on yourself ( no one else will, so.....) let us know what you are in to. It should be very interesting to us all. Clear, Gale
Gale
USA - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 15:33:16 (MST)

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veal, ur full of crap. Sidney is in new south wales,not northern territory. jeeze.seems just another spammer trying to get active e mail addys.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 27, 2003 at 10:15:29 (MST)

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Merry X-mas everyone. Bernie,thanks for the phone call. The menudo came out great. Bill Shilletto, where are you ? Diane just log in once in a while. Dave Powers - merry X-mas. E'nuff Said 426 Out.
Bruno E Sanchez <bsanchez1@stx.rr.com>
Laredo, TX - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 07:21:02 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all, yes it looks like the spammers got us. Darwin S., I was planning to probably stop & see you on the way to Indy. Your place is about a good long days ride from mine, but if you are going, will see you there. If you are going alone however, I probably have room for 1 on the back of my electra-glide. safe holidays>>smitty
Jim Westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 09:53:25 (MST)

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HEY.......Someone erased the wrong como........went to throw out the GARBAGE and grabed the wrong bag huh....anyway MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone...
Keith 72-73 <onereb@bellsouth.net>
c, ms USA - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 08:27:36 (MST)

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Merry Christmas and best wishes to all of the 129th Guys and gals. Hope to attend a reunion in the near future. Jeff Lashbrook Cobra Cardinal 67/68 jefflash@aol.com
Jeff Lashbrook <jefflash@aol.com>
Little Rock, AR USA - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 07:42:57 (MST)

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Looks like someone really screwed things up. Just wanted to wish all a very blessed Christmas and only the good things in the New Year. See you in Indy. Darwin
Darwin Schmiedt--Flame
woonsocket, sd USA - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 07:14:17 (MST)

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Merry Christmas everyone. You are never far from our thoughts and prayers. Ron and Jamie
Ron and Jamie DeBates
Big Timber, MT USA - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 18:51:31 (MST)

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Boy, it sure is good to see a lot of our MIA brothers posting again!! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!!..Think Indy... Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom <n8auu(a)email.com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 12:36:38 (MST)

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BEST WISHES FROM OUR FAMILY TO THE FLIGHT, MAY EVERYONE HAVE A HAPPY HOLLIDAY AND A GREAT NEW YEAR, EVEN YOU CUP'S. .........TAILS CLEAR LEFT....CASEY
Matt Casey <Mcasey1947@msn.com>
Hemet, CA USA - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 10:31:35 (MST)

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Want to wish everyone and their families a Merry Christmas and a safe New Years. Let's prayer for Soldiers!!
Alex
USA - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 09:15:30 (MST)

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To all I would like to wish You and Yours a Very Merry Christmas and a Healthy, Prosperous and Safe New Year. Always your Brother....Cups
Jim Masencup <JimAntilleanM@netscape.net>
Port-au-Prince, Haiti - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 07:58:18 (MST)

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its been changed to 4 pm ,tommorow,the 24th. Dang rainer,I had to work the evening shift. sorry i missed you. On another note, I want to thank you,my friends, whom I have met here and in person. You have made my life richer.May all of you enjoy the best this season has to offer and may next year be kinder to you and yours.Memories made 30 odd years ago,a life time ago,have been part of my life(for good or bad).Those times have remained with me,in dreams and sometimes waking hours.I bow my head to those who didnt return. They gave all.We miss them.Christmas in Vietnam was without the inner joy of seeing brothers and mother,sisters and fathers smile and laugh,the closeness of family,the safe warm feeling of family.Yet we band of brothers forged a bond that was stronger than blood.Its still true today.Merry christmas, my brothers,and to you,our adopted sisters.Jim Westwang,for 30 years,30 long years,I wondered what happened to you.Thanks to Mark jackson and this site,I have found my answers.May God Bless you my brother,and all the other brothers whom have stumbled upon this site as I did.To our brothers in the heavens,I am truely sorry you cant be here.Its snowing outside as I write this.The flakes fall softly and silently on the ground.Much like our memories held close to our hearts.Merry christmas my family.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 22:40:15 (MST)

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MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you....Keith72-73
Keith 72-73 <onereb@bellsouth.net>
corinth, ms USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 21:01:47 (MST)

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May the Lord bless you all. Merry Christmas and a happy and Peaceful New Year to all of the Brothers and Sisters of the 129th
Tom Pedersen <Safetyshark@aol.com>
Lawrenceville, Ga USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 19:43:04 (MST)

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Fred, I was at the Dennys until 6 today, i will have to miss tomorrow, Sorry. Merry Christmas to all and have a safe Holiday
Rainer Bauer <bauerrv@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 18:52:17 (MST)

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Merry Christmas to all.
Katharine
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 16:23:10 (MST)

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yes, tommorow,wensday,the 24th,5pm.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 16:19:20 (MST)

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Hello to all my broughts and sisters. Just want to wish each of you a merry christmas and a happy new year. oh the Ravens all the way just kiding i hope to see many of you in Indy.I wemt for the frist time last time last year i never be where if not for all of you from the 129th most know how bad i was i came a long way. still got a way to go but now i know i can do it, thank you all. i never miss another reunion again so merry CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT BE SAFE AND STAY WELL A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
Ray <stilwating@aol.con>
md USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 14:11:26 (MST)

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WHOA Fred & Susan !! What the h--- are you guys on? :o) I've not seen that much "ramblin'" since Bob Seegers "Ramblin' man" in the 70's........I've not seen that much ramblin' since American Motors 1956 "Rambler"! Good job!! Alvis, are you talking about tomorrow (Wed)?. Speaking of the rain...we got up at 4 am, had to be at Indy at 6:30 to pick Debbies son up at the airport. After that we went to 86th St to visit her Dad and drove home....it rained the whole time. On the way home I notice all the creeks (criks) were really up & roaring. Like I said, we're pretty safe here as far as the Wabash goes. Merry Christmas to you all 129th !!! Gale & Debbie
Gale
Clinton, In US of A - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 13:32:15 (MST)

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I have heard from Ron Paye, Mark Jackson, and Cups---all are fine---just busy, busy, busy. Merry Christmas everyone. You are never alone, and you are never unloved, because you have friends on the 129th. Cheers-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 12:17:25 (MST)

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The 800 # can still be used I called VHCMA an they said if they give a problem ask them to contact the hotel direct and then make your Reservations.*******Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all and be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:34:04 (MST)

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Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, our best wishes for > an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non > addictive, > gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced > within > the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your > choice, or > secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular > persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice > religious or secular traditions at all . . . > > . . and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically > uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted > calendar year 2004, > but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures > whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to > imply > that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only > "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, > creed, color, > age, physical ability, religious faith, choice o computer platform, or > sexual preference of the wishee. > > (By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This > greeting is > subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no > alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to > actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void > where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the > wisher. > This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual > application of > good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a > subsequent > holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to > replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole > discretion of the > wisher.) > > P.S. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !!! >
fred and susan alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:21:27 (MST)

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Raineer, its on for wensday,5 pm,dennys,speedway,crawfordsville rd. coffee and laughs. Ron Payne, do you copy? gale,feel like a 2 hour drive? Just saw flood warnings posted for the Walbash river near your house Gale, hope it doesnt creep that high. merry xmas to all.If any lurkers are out there and are in this "ao" ,please feel free to stop by for coffee wensday,we can have a mini reunion.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:12:46 (MST)

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Dave, if things fall right,Denver could end up playing the colts again in a few weeks. I hope our 129th brothers are ok outin calif, after the quake.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 07:50:38 (MST)

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Hey flight! Been just sitting here in the wings, just barely having time to read, let alone respond to the commo. For me, my days are quite busy(more than I like),Along with having a new house under construction, being promoted to Director of Safety then becoming a department of one,and everyday situations it gets pretty overwhelming. However, I am trying to find a way to become invisible around here so I can make it to the reunion in june. Since I can't change most things I can say MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEARS TO ONE AND ALL IN THE 129th Dennis 72-73
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Davenport, Fl USA - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 07:21:21 (MST)

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Hey Alex..geting old is hell, huh?!?! Hope you're up and around soon :>))) At least mom will know where you are on Christmas Day! I never got to spend Christmas at Lane. I was playing games down South! It seems to me that we did a recon by fire one night, and the guys were sitting around on top of their hootches watching the fireworks! I know this because some one took pictures, and I think somebody even recorded the gun runs!!! Any one know what happened to the tape?, or pictures? Freddie, just kicking back, listening to Dr. John. lets make a better world.....same cry, different generation. Cups...you still out there? I read in the paper that things aren't too good in Haiti lately. Too bad, my lady likes to get to the islands, it'd be nice to swing by.
Kim
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 19:54:53 (MST)

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Flight: Well another two weeks sitting on my ass! But, lucky they took off my cast and put me in a boot. Never thought I would miss work. Before bitched because I never got any time off. The new reunion dates are June 23 thur 27 and the hotel phone is 1-800-444-2326. We usually make our reservations in Feb. or March. Make sure you tell them your with the VHCMA to get the discounted rate. Judith couldn't put it any better about the reunions. It's a great opportunity to share a few days with the Brothers you served with in Nam. Yes!! there is alot of hugging and the tears flow at times. But, believe me when I say every reunion I have attended has been worth it. I always wondered what happened to the Brothers, where are they, how are they doing, would be nice to see them again. Those were some of the questions I asked myself. But, with a good wife encouraging me and the VHCMA helping me locate key people. I found a few I served with and in the process found alot great Brother of the 129th. We are a dying breed of Soldiers! Just like the World War veterans. So thats, why Judith and I encourage all whom check this log to make these reunions. Inclosing let's prayer for our troops, whom can't be home for Christmas. We all experienced that loney feeling. Alex 65-68
Alex
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 14:42:12 (MST)

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Good morning everyone. My Christmas list is very short this year: I'm asking that those who no longer post due to past negative experiences on the site, please return. It's wonderful that you read and keep abreast of all that is going on in our lives through our posts, but we don't have any idea about your lives. I'm sure there are stories being shared that you could add to, or stories of your own that others could add to. And once we've gotten you to take that first step...the second will be to get you to a re-union to meet(re-meet) everyone. We've lost friends and family this year, as is the ways things go as we age, so let's not waste any more time or take any more chances of not getting together before more of us are gone. We/you are blessed to have re-unions to attend...some Vietnam Veterans are not able to find such. It's a matter of showing up...we'll take it from there. And we have money to help you get there...just let us know if you need it. Come back home. A peaceful Christmas to all of you...take care of your health, talk to you on the web, and see you in INDY. Always there for our Veterans-Judith(Gently)
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 10:55:52 (MST)

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Fred A... Sorry about the 31-17 thing... Well, the Broncos are still alive anyway. I just wish they wouldn't give us all that anxiety all the time! I didn't get to watch any of the game, but after reading the story I wished I had! Animal, I remember the visit from the general on Christmas Day, too... I remember being "out of uniform" while shaking his hand. Also have a photo of flares on Christmas Eve 1971 over Lane! I love the story about the horse with antlers... hopefully Santa didn't miss him on the team! Merry Christmas everybody!
Dave Powers
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 09:06:37 (MST)

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DANG, did denvercome to play football . Kicked the colts butts
alvis
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 08:56:28 (MST)

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a xmas stoOne particular Christmas season a long time ago, Santa was getting ready for his annual trip ... but there were problems everywhere. Four of his elves got sick, and the trainee elves did not produce the toys as fast as the regular ones so Santa was beginning to feel the pressure of being behind schedule. Then, Mrs.. Claus told Santa that her Mom was coming to visit.This stressed Santa even more. When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were about to give birth and two had jumped the fence and were out, heaven knows where. More stress. Then when he began to load the sleigh one of the boards cracked and the toy bag fell to the ground and scattered the toys. So, frustrated, Santa went into the house for a cup of coffee and a shot of whiskey. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered that the elves had hid the liquor and there was nothing to drink. In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the coffee pot and broke into hundreds of little pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found that mice had eaten the straw it was made from. Just then the doorbell rang and Santa cussed on his way to the door. He opened the door and there was a little angel with a great big Christmas tree. The angel said, very cheerfully, "Merry Christmas Santa. Isn't it just a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Isn't it just a lovely tree? Where would you like me to stick it?" Thus began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree. ry.
alvis
USA - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 08:49:18 (MST)

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Fred Avis, Gale has a copy of the tape now, You could make a copy from his. J.W. Wilson
J.W. Wilson
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 20:28:55 (MST)

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Memories of Christmas at An Son : I have a couple; One is a volleyball game coming to an abrubt pause as the famous John Paul Vann strolled through our Company area. Then it was "carry on men" and the game continued...... The other memory that sticks out is having to fly a mission on Christmas day with Smitty, Festus, a door gunner I can't place, and a ROK RTO. What makes it memorable is the huge "horse with antlers" we brought back to the Korean regimental HQ...... Best Holiday wishes to everyone from the Big Island. Greg
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 17:36:40 (MST)

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chuckling with gale. Gale, we are suppose to sign on our new house feb 1. We are still holding our breath untill said time acutaly occurs.2 eyes,3 eyes, gueer eyes, i dont care.I am come to the age where ..it just aint my biz what someone else does.If they are happy and not hurting anyone, so be it.Who am I to judge.Just dont put a hand on my thigh.Freddy,you sound happy,good to hear.Can someone make me a copy of the tape I saw at marks? I will be more than happy to pay for the tape and postage.If u folks dont mind, i will have it put on cd.Go colts, will be thinking of you dave watching also.Robie, you comming down this june?Might be fun to get th bikers at my house one evening, just to let the neighbors knowwe aint dead,ashamed or to old to feel the wind in our faces.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 16:00:33 (MST)

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Flight, I remember Rick saying that 800# for the reunion says they are full, so, here is the direct number for that hotel and mention VHCMA: 317-248-2481
Gale
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 13:00:11 (MST)

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Katherine, sounds good. Here's where you (and others) can get all the info: www.vhcma.org/reunion.html
Gale
Clinton, In US of A - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 12:53:00 (MST)

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What hotel? Phone number? I must have been asleep when the reunion information was sent.
Katharine
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 12:22:35 (MST)

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Great news. The dates of the reunion are still open on my calendar. Or they were open I have a big INDY on the 25-27. I will be there. I am looking forward to seeing all again. You renew my spirit. I hope everyone has a most enjoyable and safe holiday. I look forward to reading the post every day. I don't say much but I am here. sometimes twice a day. I love hearing the stories. Remember what ever is said here that we still love each other like brothers and sisters and that is that. Take care Have a wonderful holiday and as always a sister
Katharine
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 12:20:30 (MST)

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Fred, nice talkin' to ya the other night and I LOVE your attitude....will the real Fred Skaggs stand up!! :o) When you get to "sniper valley" you better let Kim have the controls and you be the gunner. I hope they catch this twerp before he starts running scared and comes to Indiana! You & Kim have a great Christmas buddy!!! Alvis, are you still thinking about moving? Sounds like a fun time in the back yard.......did you say "three eyes" or "queer eyes"? LOL. Rick, you out there buddy?? You've been awfully quiet lately. Robbie, glad to hear that your procedure went ok and hope you are back to normal.Katherine, did you get the correct dates for Indy? Just in case you didn't: June 23-27th (seems most check in on Thurs as I do & that's the 24th). Hope you can make it.Clear, Gale
Gale 67-68
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 10:01:15 (MST)

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Merry Xmas to everyone!!!! We`re "northbound down" to Ohio tomorrow at 0500hrs. Matter of fact we will go right thru "sniper alley" there on 270 West in Columbus. That`s only about a 2 1/2 mile section of the outerbelt. We take a short-cut out of Charleston,W.V. and go up U.S.35 West past Bob Evans Farms up to U.S.23 North to Columbus and catch that section of 270 to I-71 North. I`m excited....no matter where a person goes or is living.....home is where the heart is. Well it`s been a turbulent, opinionated, idealistic, sometimes left, sometimes right, sometimes just flatout crazy year. Some of us have signed off the web-site.....some have just stood back and watch it happen....some have been "healed" and some are in the process of healing........the common bond of the 129th AHC is we share a passion and conviction in beliefs that make up who we are. Most of us are in the "autumn" of our life.....me personally...I`m learning that life is way to short to keep "banging" my head against to wall, and trying to change someone`s way thinking........I`m just movin on for now on and I will stress my opinions like everyone else. I just hope in the "new year" to come that all the good people of 129th can look at what I say....You will read and think....that`s just Fred Skaggs...that`s who he is....not the enemy or a foe.... he`s still apart of the history of the 129th Assault Helicopter Company. " There`s no point in looking to the past......there`s no future in it".....See you folks next year......Time Magazine`s "Person of the Year".....The American Soldier.....A day late and a dollar short.....but I`ll (we) will take it anyway we can get it.......
Fred Skaggs
USA - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 09:37:47 (MST)

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Jeff, thats pretty cool,will have to check it out soon.Hey, is there a way to find out the tail number of the bird that was lost in jan. ( i think) of 72?Mr. Gibson,gabby, was ac on it. I do know its resting somewhere on the bottom of the south china sea between tuy hoa and lane.Cant remember,but my guns still might be on it.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 19:06:35 (MST)

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First a Merry Christmas to all! But what I relly want to tell you is that while browsing at Barnes and Noble yesterday I came across a book titled "VIETNAM CHOPPERS" by Simon Dunstan with a forward by MG George S. Patton Jr. Anyway, I just turned to a page and there was a slick hovering over some ROK looking fellows. The stinger cover was yellow(1st plt) and I could not beleive on the door was 129.Tail number is 362 which goldbook says was in company 3-69 thru 1-70. Caption reads " A UH-1H of the 129th Assualt Helicopter Company drops water containers to ROK troops of the Tiger Division on 22 August 1969 during Operation "Surprise" near the An Khe pass" How cool is this? Anyone know who crew may have been? Was before my time.
Jeff
Lake Norman, NC USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 17:43:26 (MST)

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I'm a little slow on the uptake Fred...took me a minute to realize what you were saying about your grandfather!! LOL Drawing unemployment, and bumming around New England....kewl! Late 70's, early 80's, we had some snowless winters. this year we've all ready got over five feet!Ski area's are going great guns, looking for the tourist dollar
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 16:41:45 (MST)

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left, right, three eyes, I dont care,all brothers welcome to my home,yard garage or carpet.I do ask that you wipe your foot prints off the toilet seat when finished tho.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 16:23:15 (MST)

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sure thing Freddy,I will bring some nice smoked chedder.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 08:52:18 (MST)

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when I die, I want to go sleeping and peacefully,like my grandfather.Not screaming and crying like the people in his car
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 08:20:38 (MST)

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Rainer, trying for the dennys in speedway,near 465,5pm,tuesday.Ron, do you copy? this might change,but trying to put this together at this time.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 08:14:42 (MST)

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Fred A. I`ll be sure to bring a bottle of "good German White" from Rudeshiem. Our Dutch friends sends a case to us since we`ve been back home. It`s $45 a bottle over here.... 8 euro($10) over there.....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 21:21:07 (MST)

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Kim L. "And make him whole"....THAT`s a "union term"..... "and all pertinent articles", that`s way I would end all my grivances I filed. My wife use to look at it and say," make him whole....that don`t make any sense". I would say," A arbitrator or hearing officer will know what I mean". Kim L. I`m reading a book called "Teammates" it tells the story of three old Red Sox-Johnny Pesky,Bobby Doerr and Dom DiMaggio and their road trip to say goodbye to Ted Williams as he was dying in Florida in the fall of 2001...really good book. Yea..the Sox are gonna have to pay A-Rod all his cash. I don`t know about Nomar...he has a new wife.....that`s athletic as he is. He may have to start playing the outfield anyway to save his stamina. Robin Yount made that transition. Liberals in Fred Alvis`s back yard...Don`t worry Fred....we (Kim L. and I) would stay in our little unionized space....LOL....Fred if you worked as a ironworker in New York.......you had to almost be a union member at that time and period.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 21:13:56 (MST)

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For those of you who are boycotting fine wines from France and Germany, there is a wonderful substitute from our coalition buddy, Bulgaria. Yeyahs, Bulgaria! Who knew! It is an unpretentious little wine -with just a hint of really old and badly used jockstrap aroma, which is remarkable because the quaint Bulgarian peasants who create this wine have never heard of underwear. They crush the grapes in the traditional Bulgarian fashion- working up a sweat rolling around buck nekkid in the wine vat. Flavors which are difficult to identify precisely are thus imparted to this offering. After dumping your Chateau Lafitte '82 and Liebfraumilch '89 into the gutter, you will be proud to serve this truly unforgettable wine
alvis
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 20:04:21 (MST)

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hey Kim.when i was an iron worker,we were working in upstate new york and they shut us down in oct. because of the weather. go figure...from there they sent us to Haverhill, Mass.Did our last concrete pour 2 days b4 xmas is a snowstorm.While there, i took the time to drive into vermont,new hampshire and up into maine.We got lucky in a way,we stayed in a seaside hotel with off season rates for those 2 months.Kicking the sand after dark at sea's edge resulted in tiny sparks in the sand (phosphurs deposits on the sea bed I was told).I had a great time with the folks there as I still had a strong southern accent.Smile, I allways had a great time working in the northeast.kanas City was the bestfor partying, tho thats a story for another time.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 19:55:26 (MST)

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Fred A. I was in another place,not the 129th, a long time ago, when I lost a few guys around Christmas. That has always put a damper on this holiday for me. I get very introspective, withdrawn, and not nice to be around. This year is different. I've found a good woman, and the time I spend with her makes me forget the bad things from the past, or at least keeps me from letting it get me down. What a difference one person can make!! Fred S. I'm not sure how it's going to work out in Boston...I was talking with a law professor yesterday. He was the hearing officer in an arbitration. Guy specializes in Sports Law, at U Mass. His feeling is that the sox will have to come to terms with keeping ARod whole. Our dream team will have him and Nomar together, Put Nomar at third, or even in the outfield so he can concentrate on hitting..Of course, Florida has 2 world series rings, with a bunch of nobodies on board each time!!!! Go figure....I'll promise to keep my left wing leanings to myself if I make it to Indy....I wouldn't want to get run out of town!!!.....I went to Rhode Island today, to take some presents to my oldest daughter. Came back through Boston, went through the Ted Williams tunnel. You might have heard of the 'Big Dig'? What a disaster!!! bumper to bumper, 25mph max for about 15 miles! I should have flown, and would have, except I need to get my class 3 renewed!!! Serves me right for procrastinating. As screwed up as flying around class B airspace is, it's still faster than groundpounding!!!
Kim
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 18:50:14 (MST)

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Katherine!!!!!
Gently
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 15:26:06 (MST)

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Merry Christmas everyone. I hope everyone has a safe and wonderful holiday. What are the new dates for the reunion. I may not be able to attend. I set my calendar for the 2004 in June of 2003. Always a sister Katharine
Katharine
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 12:24:06 (MST)

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its funny. I can remember my xmas in nam but not the one b4 it ,nor the one after it.I know the one before was special cause I had a draft notice sitting on the table and we all knew I wouldnt be home for the next one (or pretty damn sure).The one after was at fort carson and it draws a blank.wisps of smoke? For me the worst holidays were 4th of july's. firecrackers sounds like firefights and the big boomers sound like arty.Used to make me very,very uncomfortable.One july i was in some hospital getting clean and sober (again) when the 4th happened.I remember finding a very dark corner,putting my back to the walls,squating down to make a smaller target and crying . Nurse finally found me and ask if i was alright. told her to get the f..k away from me.She did.I was flashing back that night,going between knowing where i was and my ears telling me different.Damn, I was scared and wanted it all to stop.Guess the nurse told everyone to leave me alone,I was having a very personel moment that none of them could understand nor help.Only you brothers in arms can understand that and only you brothers can hear me say it without me feeling foolish,crazy or ashamed.I still dont like 4th of july.Merry xmas my friends.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 11:15:37 (MST)

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HELLO FILGHT, AND ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS OH MY 2 CENTS WORTH BEING FROM BALIT, I HAVE TO SAY THE RAVENS ALL THE WAY CLEVELAND HAS NO CHANCE ,REALY JUST STIRING THE POT. BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE RAVENS WIN BUT IF NOT OH WELL IAM JUST PLAYING I KNOW MANY FROM OH HERE SO I JUST THOUGT I HAVE SOME FUN WITH U ALL JUST JOKING, SO YOU ALL HAVE A GRATE HOLIDAY I AM DOING BETTER THEY INCREASED MED FROM 125 MG TO 200 MG OF TOPIRAMATE SO NOW I SLEEP WELL TAKE CARE GOD BLESS SEE YOU ALLIN INDY A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY BE SAFE ALL
RAY <STILWATING@AOL,COM>
MD USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 08:41:16 (MST)

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Fred Skaggs, what a story! Isn't it wonderful how life can be full of surprises. Make the very best of it when you can. Alex and Liz, thanks for everything you have done for the VHCMA. I hope to see you all in June. The change in the date has made it easier for me to get there. My daughter graduates from highschool this June. I will be in San Diego December 27 to 30th. I hope any 129th family living in the area will let me know how to contact them when I am their with my son to watch the WSU Cougers play Texas in the Holiday Bowl. Merry Christmas everyone!
Dan Hertlein
Sumner, WA USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 08:01:55 (MST)

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Flight: It's looking the Buckeye Log. HA! Didn't ever realize how many Brothers from Ohio were in the 129th.and the rest of the Northeastern. And the Includes Indy. The Browns with Lou the Toe!! Managed a few Indian games when I was Younger. Kieth give me a call on my cell 901-487-0374 if I get a chance to get down your way. Maybe we can hook up. Found a list of names of the 129th personnel will start trying to find and make contact with them. I want this to be our largest reunion yet!! Were in Indy this year. And the 129th will show up in numbers. It's been an honor for me to meet so many of you and your wonderful families. Even though the 129th famliy has experienced alot of personal losses this past year. We all were there for each other. Your one great family to be apart of. As a member of the 129th and Past President Of the VHCMA Liz and I would like to wish all of you a Wonderful Christmas and a safe New years!! Alex PS. 38 years ago Rainer,Glenn and I spent Christmas at Dong Ba Thin.
Alex <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 07:38:39 (MST)

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3 more working days and I join the ranks of the unemployed. Retirement at last after 36 years. Rick, Mark, Alex and Liz, better watch out. I might be popping up at your front door looking for a free meal one of these days. (ha). Hope all here have a very nice Christmas. An adopted brother, Harrell
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 05:02:48 (MST)

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J.W......Indians fan.....we`ll have to talk on the phone or I`ll come to Kinston.....Yea...trading of "The Rock" for Harvey Kuenn(sp) that was a crusher. Looks like Indians fans will be cast to the desert for another 40 years. Of course we could get Ted Stepian as owner. I`m a Cincy Reds fan also....broke my heart when they traded Frank Robinson to Baltimore. He just went out and won the "Triple Crown" the next year. But the sucess of the Reds in the 70`s smooth that over. But I`m a Boston Red Sox fan big time also.......and a devout "Yankee Hater". Columbus,Ohio has the Yankee`s Triple A farm team.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 19, 2003 at 03:54:45 (MST)

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Fred S, A Indians fan also. I was a sad little fellow when they traded Rocky to Detroit. As a teenager listened to games at night on 12.20 a.m. Since 1987, Kinston has had a Indians Minor league team. I saw some good players go thru here on their way to majors. With the Jacobs selling-probably worst thing for Indians in last 50 years.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 19:16:41 (MST)

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OK Kim......you tweaked me a little bit there.....129th just might have have 2 liberals in the "back yard". Anyone want to make it 3......then we`re "In Like Flint".......By the way Kim is there gonna be a "new shortstop" up in Red Sox country.....would have already been "sign, sealed and delivered" if the "players union" had not stepped in.......Damn Unions.....LOL....I`ve been in this "right to work state" of N.C. to long.....gotta get back north.....ya`all didn`t REALLY think I was gonna bash the union...LOL
Fred Skaggs
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 18:39:36 (MST)

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Well since we are talking about flight.......Back in 1978 or 79 I can`t remember, a good friend Bobby Stephenson,a professional photographer, called me on a Sunday morning and ask me if I wanted to go over to a friends house and watch the "Brown`s game" on T.V. I said," Sure I`m not doing anything today on Sunday". So Bobby pick me up and we drove to a suburb of Columbus,Ohio called Bexley. A suburb within the city ,a "jewish enclave"...the rich,the famous and the important. As we drove I ask Bobby," Who are going to visit for the game? He said,"We`re going to Tibbs house, Tibbs and his wife house sit for his parents that go to Florida for winter". As we pulled into the drive-way of what I would call a "mini-mansion"...I thought damn!!! So we knocked on the door and Mr. Tibbs answered the door and greeted us. Bobby introduced me and Tibbs and Tibbs wife. Tibbs was a biker type, tatoos, ear ring, a ponytail to his waist. His wife was a attractive woman...little rough around the edges....look like she wouldn`t back down in a "bar brawl"....but really nice people. So the football came on T.V. and we drink a few beers and past around a few things. Then I got comfortable and ask, "Tibbs, what do you do for a living'? He said," I`m a social worker for Children Services". So I thought whoa...that`s interesting. But soon I had to go to the bathroom...so I ask Tibbs," Where`s the bathroom at" Tibbs said,"Down the hall, past the study and to the right". So as I walked down the hallway, I glanced into the study....there above the fireplace was a painting of a B-29 WW2 bomber with Enola Gay written on the side it. I got to the bathroom and as did my business...it dawn on me....Tibbs.....Tibbs....Tibbets. Oh my lord...as I went back down the hallway....nosey ass me.....tried the double doors of the study. They were open...and I just tip-toed in. I was at awe...pictures with presidents...General Macarthur...artifacts from WW2...unreal...on the desk sat a name plate.....General Paul W. Tibbets...I closed the doors and walked back to the family room(The Den)....I said," Tibbs....you`re Gerneral Tibbets son!!!!!! He said," Yea you want another beer"? I said," Tibbs, Enola Gay is your mother"? He said,"No, actually it`s my Grandmother, dad loved grandma!!!!! I said," Tibbs do you realize to impact your dad had on the world"? Tibbs said," Yea.....I read history.....do you still want that beer? I looked at Bobby, as he sat there with a "shit eating grin". Bobby had taken some of the more recent pictures in the study. He had worked for a guy named ...Rupert Murdock...when he lived in Florida in the late 60`s and early 70`s. But today Bobby called me at home ...asking if I was coming home for Xmas. Bobby is 62 years old now....and a grandpa...He said," Freddie everyones coming home this year, life is getting short". We seem to lose someone every year and this year we`re meeting at Vinny`s Pub( Vince DelChico)"...... I went to high school with Vince....But Bobby said," We`ll keep a stool open for you little bro". ......Made me think.....life is too short.....and I had forgotten about that little meeting of Tibbs.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 18:13:36 (MST)

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Fred A. If your new family really wants to experience the true joys of winter, they should come east and spend a little time on the slopes, communing with mother nature at her best. I wouldn't be surprised if the new has worn off of winter by now! I can't wait to get down south and enjoy a little sand, surf, and relaxation! Fred S. we dropped some Mike Rangers off just west of that rock, they didn't find anything worth talking about. I think there was a small river (creek?) near the DZ. Tuy Hoa was a pretty small place when we were there. A small ville, off limits, a lot of flightline, and a big perimeter fence. Mike 75 was there, along with a Chinook outfit, and a few air force types. I'm not too sure about the reunion....it all depends on whether or not my lady and I can get the time off...might need a place to pitch a tent, if anyone can stand a raving liberal sleeping in the back yard!!! HA!!!
Kim
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 17:47:40 (MST)

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FRED S....Us Mississippi boys love to fly too.....one way or another....Keith
Keith 72-73
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 14:27:41 (MST)

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J.W. Wilson....I was making reference to the big "flare up" that N.C. and Ohio had few years ago about our auto plates....LOL...Ohio put "Brithplace of Aviation" and N.C. put " First in Flight" on their auto plates and the politicians went at each other about the issue. It was stupid and funny at the same time. J.W. sounds like you`re "Brownies" fan.... Yes sir... Otto was a Northwestern University guy. He spoke at my H.S. graduation.... great man also. No. 16 Milt Plum.....No.13???? Frank Ryan ...PHD. in Mathematics...Professor at Yale or Harvard in the "off-season"....back when they had to work a regular job to make ends meet.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 13:53:19 (MST)

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And yes, we do not hear from Ron Paye. He doesn't spend much time on his computer? H..m...h-m..m...m. I pause to ponder. I think he needs a couple of emails to remind him how important he is to us, and missed by us when we don't hear from him. Also, let us remind him that we are here for him if he needs us. Peace in 2004-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 13:24:02 (MST)

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will do Rainer. Just E-mailed my response and am waiting on info.I Might have to telephone Ron and ask, last time we talked ,he said he doesnt spend much time on the pc anymore. Dang its snowing hard outside, wrecks all over the place plus the one I DRIVE.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 06:40:50 (MST)

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Fred S, I kept hoping that they would fly the repica yesterday but the wind never got right. A football legend died yesterday. I became a Browns fan when Otto Graham was the Quarterback. Ten titles games in ten years with seven wins is hard to beat. Milt Plum, DR FRank Ryan, and Bernie Kosar were pretty good.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 05:39:20 (MST)

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Alvis let me know the time and place, I will try to be there. Merry Christmas All
Rainer Bauer <bauerrv@aol.com>
indy, USA - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 05:02:41 (MST)

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J.W. First In Flight N.C. .....Yea those Wright boys from Dayton,Ohio sure were smart guys....They went to Oberlin College in Ohio, test flight on Lake Erie in December would be awful cold....Wright-Patterson AFB.....Air Force Museum .....Ohio Brithplace of Aviation....John Glenn....Concord,Ohio native.....Neil Armstrong....Wapakeneta(sp),Ohio it`s a native american name, it`s few miles from Coldwater. Us guys from Ohio love to fly....one way or another.....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 16:48:25 (MST)

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by all means Kieth,you are welcome to pitch a tent and/or crash on the carpet in the living room or our computer room.Ron Payne,a heli vet is coming into town the 20th ( sat) and wants to get together for coffee and pie one day. He os leaving the 27th.his Father in law is dying so they are going to spend one ast xmas with him.Anyway,you want to mmet with us?anyone else?rainer?
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 16:43:52 (MST)

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hey Alvis...I might need a spot to pitch a tent....and yes all us southern boys like biscuits and gravy........Keith
Keith72-73
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 14:12:31 (MST)

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Gale and Debbie Beard... Thanks a bunch for the card and the little memento! It will find an honorable place on the tree (like last year's)! You're both too kind!
Dave Powers
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 14:11:42 (MST)

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JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO RELAX, I WILL JUST HEEPING U ALL UP TO SATE WHATS GOING ON DALE AND DEBBIE THANKS FOR CARD AT TIMES I JUST FORGET , ALEX HOWS THE ANLEF COMIMING ALONG , HAVENT SEEN MARK OR DEE ON I WISH YOU BOTH WELL, ROB IAM GLAD YOUR OK AT LEAST YOU KNOW ITS REAL CLEAN KIDDING KRISS IS DOING WELL , IAN IN TIME I BE DOING WELL I HAVE A GOOD VET MAN STILL SOUNDS LIKE I GO TO THE DOG POUND; JIM W HOW ARE YOU FEELING ARE YOU OK .OH ELVIS I TELL EVERONE ITS TRUE THE WATER GOSE THE OTHER WAY THET ALL SAY SEE I TOLD YOU SO I WALK A WAY WITH A SNILEON MY FACE. IT HARD TO SAY NAMES DONT LIKE TO MIS ANY ONE YOU ALL MEAN A LOT TO ME FRED SKAGG HOW ARE THING IN NC I DONT POST MUCH DOM KNOW WHAT TO SAY. NUT TODAY I WISH YOU ALLL A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLLIDAY. OH JIM I STILL LOVE YOUR WALKING STICKS I BEEN LOOKING AT CRAFT SHOWS MAY NEED ONE AT TIMES THE WAY I WALK GENTLY YOU TAKE CARE I DONT KNOW HOW YOU STAY SO SO BUSY ON WEEKEND BUT I KNOW YOU LOVE WHAT YOU DO GOD BLESS YOU ANT THE WORK U DO FOR US ALL. WELL I HOPE I DINT MISS ANY ONE A BROTHER ALWAYS hope this works had a hard time DEPT. OF WASHINGTON DC CHIFE PROOF READED AND SPELL CHECKER FOR GEORGE W BUSH SMILE AND MAY YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY BE SAFE ALL Raymond J Gagner JOKING
RAY <stilwting#aol.com>
md USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 12:30:36 (MST)

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100th anniversary of Wright Brothers First Flight going on at Kill Devil Hills, N.C. today. Lots of bigs there. Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn, Chuck Yeager, Bruce McCandlass, and George W.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 08:53:27 (MST)

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battlefield humor,sent to me by my uncle,also a nam vet. Did you hear what the troops were calling the Sikorsky Blackhawk that Hillary used to tour Iraq? "Broomstick One"
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 08:07:01 (MST)

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Robbie, glad you got good news from the" poki-man".Dave , they say clinton might be able to play sunday.You guys talking about the hurricane that was supposed to hit lane and veared north at the last minute and hit ,blew away , CHUI LIA? Jim Westwang, you, of course,can sleep in a tent in my backyard, but you have a standing invatation ,firt call, to the couch, and will have room in the garage for your harley,for security.Hope you like biscuits and gravy. the aussies here dont so I seldom make it any more.A southern boy just has to have his biscuits and gravy once in a while.I think the last flare ship mission I flew on was with J. westwang ,we saw people in the gullies over across the hill,and they wouldnt let us go hot. I think thats the most cussing I ever heard come out of smitty. fair skies to all,
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 07:45:26 (MST)

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Robbie, glad to hear things went well! Fred A... Portis got a bad ankle sprain, but not as bad as feared. Animal, I remember as a new guy not being familiar with all the radios on board, and going hot into an LZ out in Binh Dinh province to the tune of Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love". When they were all on at the same time there was a lot of chatter! It took me a bit to figure out which switch turned off which radio! Add to that some talkative ARVN RTO and it was preety annoying. Kim, the Air Farce guys probably wiped a tear from their eyes when they saw all of us leaving... particularly when seeing "goofy grape and lemon yellow" smoke trailing from our furniture(and mattress)-laden helicopters... the furniture and mattresses formerly owned by them! Fred S... according to Kim, you're "out of uniform". You were telling war stories while not wearing your John Wayne beanie ("there we were...")! I remember watching an ammo dump over near An Son get blown up, while we were enjoying an evening in front of the hootches... lawn chairs on top of the sandbags... kind of like fireworks! What Denver Broncos fan could forget "The Drive"? John pulled it off that time, didn't he? I was referring to Clinton Portis' injury with the Cleveland comment.
Dave Powers
USA - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 at 07:40:29 (MST)

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Dave P. I didn`t catch that Cleveland comment....yea...those boys on the Browns HIT Hard.....LOL......Browns are still about a year away from a winning season...we`ve been saying that for the last 5 years. But you stay with the girl that brought you to the dance.....what dance???? Browns haven`t won a NFL title since 1964. Before there was a Super Bowl. But we are the only fans to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.....The Dawg Pound.....Remember "The Drive" by John Elway......"The Fumble" by Ernest Byner( Elway brought it back down field, 98 yard drive for a touchdown that beat us). And, A.Rashaad`s catch on the 10 yard line with second`s remaining.....BLAM....no NFL title....No Super Bowl... Then the final blow..... Art Modell moves team to Baltimore...and win`s the Super Bowl....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 19:25:32 (MST)

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ALEX..hope you are doing ok with that foot...guess there is no end to what an overworked man will do for a little time off..LOL
Keith 72-73
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 17:53:04 (MST)

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Well.....I'm ashamed(like hell I am!!!) to have to say that we're guilty as charged! We'd put our doors on for some reason, and I went to preflight my ship, and the doors were closed, and the windows were covered with bubble polish. Pilots came down, and helped push us out of the bunker, no preflight, just crank and unass the place!! We tied a bunch of smoke grenades to the airframe, along with just about everyone else in the company, and buzzed the place on departure. My gunner and I were crammed in between a big wicker chair, an end table, and various other pieces of furniture. I think Vic Gilliland and Dave Day were up front, Stretch McKinney and I were in back. As I recall, we managed to get ourselves thrown out of the NCO club, they had no sense of humor at our presence! And, we figured that an e-4 is an nco in the airforce....soooo.....we all thought we'd done ourselves proud, till next morning, when the pilots came staggering in, laughing like a bunch of fools, telling each other, and us, what they'd done the night before!!! I think Captain Durden was a little disappointed in us! Hell, he never liked us gunnies anyways!!!
Kim
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 16:08:55 (MST)

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Wanted to let every one know that my colonoscopy went well. No ominous black things in there and only found one pink pollup in there. Watched the whole thing on the monitor in the room. The worst part ended up being the night before and drinking 3 litres of something to clean my colon out. Got about a foot of snow Saturday and Sunday, but it was melting today. The temp got up to 44 degrees. Well, back to wrapping presents. Hope everyone has a good holiday. Alex, hope your ankle gets better.. Gale Beard that was a nice card you sent out. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 16:08:21 (MST)

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I can`t believe what I`m hearing...... the 129th rippin the "poor Air-Force" off!!!!! Those dudes had some nice quarters......But it is funny.....Gangsters of the 129th..."Bugsy" LaVoie....."Al" Henkel......."Machine Gun" Westwang....."Baby Face" Powers. When our group was there, we traded or "ripped off" some pork chops from the Koreans....Well there we were, Richard "Spud" Weaver cookin chops on a Sunday evening on the grill....just about all of us ....drunk or stoned... except "flare ship" crew( Ron DeBates and I forget who else))waitin for them pork chops. Then some "drunk ARVN" decided to pump in a few B-40 or M-79 rounds into the compound. An Son hadn`t be hit before and we all were freakin out and running everywhere. Bunkers, flight line people were scramblin. And here was a blasted Spud Weaver still cookin..with beer in one hand and a fork in the other. Spud said," I`m not going anywhere and leave these pork chops here"...."someone WILL steal them". Spud maintained his flight plan....never moved inch from them chops.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 14:13:44 (MST)

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Was it Phan Rang, or Cam Rahn Bay? A hell of a party anyway. The Airforce kept Army visiters from leaving the flight line after that. I guess we couldn't figure out how the Air Force guys rated such elegant furnishings; we all worked for the same Company. They must have had better interior decorators than we did. I think some Gunnies were passing nice wicker chairs out the window to awaiting crew members for relocation to Lane. The funny part was when the CID (Criminal Investigative Division) types came to Lane looking for the "borrowed" furniture, It suddenly turned up in the C.O.'s hootch. Dave, I'd like to call "Rebel", but lost his number. Could you E-mail it to me ? I heard "Suzie Q" by Creedance on the radio this morning and had one of those momentary flashbacks of Nam. Remember all the radios we had in a Huey? VHF, UHF, FM, for communications; and AM for AFVN(Armed forces Radio). The AM also had an ADF direction finder in case you couldn,t find Qui Nhon. There was a radio for each company, command and control, and flight. We'd be talking on all three back and forth during an operation and listening to AFVN in the background. One CA will be forever imprinted in my mind because over all the chatter and excitement, I could hear "Oh Suzie Q, Baby I love you, Oh Suzie Q" on short final into a hot LZ. Anyway thats what I was thinking about this morning. Best wishes to all, Thanks for the call Fred! Aloha, Greg (Animal)
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 12:16:24 (MST)

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Animal, Yes, I do remember that day, another that turned to hell. Kim I also remember those low missions, I did a number of them, also liked the time i had the light on my ship & did night firefly. I had a .50 mounted then & one night Lz salem & orange were overrun at the same time & had to cover until a gun team got on station, remember being scared & damned careful where i was shooting as our guys were mixed with theirs & very relieved when the gun team got there with the heavy stuff. Fred Alvis, If I ride my Harley to Indy will probably bring a tent, sleeping bag, & need a place to camp if'n you got one. I have been gone a little so catching up on the commo. Funny how that trip to phan rang keeps coming up. I still remember that pair of big wicker chairs that were "appropriated" by the gun platoon & hidden in officers territory. We sure did a hell of a number on that place & all over a suspected typhoon that hit up north. >>> everyone have a good Christmas>>> Respects>>> Smitty
Jim Westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 11:55:01 (MST)

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Hang in there don and best of luck. Dave,I wasnt aware that clinton Portis was hurt, never like to see folks hurt. gotta go to work now, g'day
alvis
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 11:23:49 (MST)

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Fred A... I'm reluctant to wager, given the fact that Clinton Portis was hurt. I still don't know how badly, but I guess the win over Cleveland came at a price! Kim... Phan Rhang: our pilots did INDEED know how to party, but the local Air Force guys apparently didn't, and didn't much appreciate our presense! Animal, it seems I recall an incident involving a CO2 fire extinguisher and an Air Force officer... It was an R&R (I know it felt and looked like one!)? I just thought it was an "official business" trip we were on, to protect our aircraft from hurricane damage! It also turned into a furniture shopping trip. Just five words, Kim... "bubble polish and smoke grenades".
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 07:59:31 (MST)

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I still refer to it as the Snoopy mission, because it came about as a result of a hot action during one. Snoopy low got shot at, hit, took all kinds of wild actions to get clear while we fired up the AO. Like you noted, Fred, that piece of RVN was quite spooky. I was riding right door on a clockwise pattern, and burned up an entire can of 7.62, along with a bunch of 40MM rounds from a chunker we had on board.....Phan Rhang!!!! That was a wild night!!!!:>))) There are stories from that R&R that will last forever!!!! Who says pilots can't Party??!!!
Kim
USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 21:11:52 (MST)

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Yes Alex I am still the CS at the ZOO but with the new Order Managment program I am about ready to tell my DM what he can do with the whole place. he and I got into it Saturday, we spent about 20 minutes yelling at each other and all my manager could do was stand there and hope I didn't take a poke at him (the DM ) or hand in my resignation. the DM said if I didn't think I could do the job then give him my resignation I informed him it wouldn't be that easy. so we will see what happens. (wednesday we have 2 ((count them ) 2 LP's coming into the store. all I can say is they better have their **** together if they do anything to me. because I am a retired NCO I can play any game they want to play. I'll call you Thursday LOL. Later,
Don Miller
USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 21:00:15 (MST)

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Thanks Gale, you once again have made me ( and the misses) smile. Dave Powers,I believe the Colts and Denver play this sunday night,here in the dome.Going to try and see if I can wrangle some free tickets out of someone around here.Bet you one dollar the colts win. Are we on? Was reading a good historical book about nam today,well,just the part about the easter offensive of 72,specificaly about bien din provence and up around kontum. Seems they hurled 3 divisions of nva into our "a.o."
alvis
USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 18:15:03 (MST)

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I was rather surprised to discover that the incident (as well as the tailboom change/small arms hole repairs) didn't get reported in the Gold Book. The tail number was (I believe) 67-17635. Kim, I was even more surprised that you didn't have to medevac us! In case I never said so at the time, "Thanks!"... you too, Animal! It was not as much fun as Phan Rang! Fred S.- yep, it's cold day up here in the mountains, too!
Dave Powers
USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 15:11:59 (MST)

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Flight: Well one down and one to go. Bin was the one I hoping got caught. But, will settle for Saddam for the time being. Our troops and thier safety is the main concern. As I sit here with a cast on my left foot got a stress fracture. Found out at 57 it's harder to climb the stairs to the second floor. Hopefully going down will be easier. HA! But, wanted to check the log. Ray Gagner hope everything is getting a little better for you. Were all here for you. Don Miller are you still the CS at the Zone. Been off a week. And got cabin fever. Well will try to check in later this week. Alex Ho!! did everyone get the new reunion dates for Indy?? will post themsoon. Had to move it back a week because of the car races. Max's and the rest of you first timers start saving for Indy!!
Alex
USA - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 15:01:12 (MST)

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Just wish his buddy BIN had picked the same hole to hide in.
Keith 72-73
USA - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 09:36:24 (MST)

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That`s one amazing story that has come together on this web-site....and it`s still so vivid as all the parts came together. And you guys did it and 30 something years later the puzzle can be put together. And Dave, Animal, Kim that tugs at my heart....Dave as you stated.....Sitting in the darkness wondering how you made it out alive.....All of us here can relate to that. ........ The "cold day in hell" has come today....Saddam`s capture!!!!! Let me ENJOY my crow for breakfast.....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 09:31:05 (MST)

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if you're interested click on my name below or copy and paste this URL. it is for The Night Before Christmas that was passed around in 1969 (I guess it also made the rounds other years too. http://donald_6.tripod.com/niteb4xmas.htm enjoy re-reading it I do. Merry Christmas to ALL. Later
Don Miller
USA - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 00:48:10 (MST)

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Animal/Kim... Thank goodness you guys remember that, too! All this time I was thinking it was a real bad dream (except Rebel remembers it, too)! What else do you remember about that incident? For years I've been trying to come up with what the day/date was. My crew was Rick "Rebel" Smith (AC), Jesse Hancock (Gunner), myself (CE), and I believe it was Dennis Faucher (PP)... can someone set me straight on that? I feared for those ROK's... they were pinned down pretty tight, but what really sticks in my mind are the muzzle flashes and the gunships. I remember going back to my hootch that night, and sitting in the dark wondering how come I was still alive... Animal, you ought to give Rebel a call.
Dave Powers
USA - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 18:50:44 (MST)

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Well thank you so much Kim for that info....I won`t ask!!!! Animal, it`s great to see you post....hope everything is going great for you family and business wise. That`s a great talent that you have in your business. Xmas in the south is very strange....people are still cutting grass and doing yard work. It`s in the 40`s and 50`s in December!!!! It will not feel like Xmas until I see the flat snow covered farm fields of Ohio. I know....all you folks that live in the upper midwest and mountains of Colorado and Montana.....and Maine!!!! It`s cold and winter is there...But no one remember`s the "Big Rock" on the mountain west of Phu Hiep????? Maybe they "blew it up" after "70".....It was a very distinctive landmark!!!!!
Fred Skaggs
USA - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 14:48:59 (MST)

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Freddie, don't bother asking how I know this, but, 16" naval shells came in 2 sizes. H.E. was 2200 lbs. A.P. was 1800lbs. Just about the weight of a beetle. The vacuum from the shot would suck a seaman overboard if he was dumb enough to be on deck.
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 13:00:18 (MST)

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That's the one!!!!! quite an interesting day, as I recall it. we were staging out of Tuy Hoa at the time. For some reason, I was gunner on Lupo's ship. Martinez was there too. We had a couple hangfires on one run..any body remember how they would push a ship all over the sky??? There we were ( the beginning of a John Wayne story! I'll put on the beanie cap), ships on the ground, friendlies running for cover, and we're riding an out of control gun platform!!!!Thankfully, our pilot nosed up and the one rocket that finally did leave, took of skyward..probably still going up! One thing that I could never figure out, we never got called in for dustoff cover.....Animal, nice to know you haven't fallen into the Pacific! Merry Christmas back at ya!
Kim
USA - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 12:54:56 (MST)

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Dave, I remember that C.A. We were supposed to be Chalk three, but got hung up at POL for some reason. By the time we got there on short final, we were a single ship Assault. Rebel and the C&C were yelling at me to get the **** out of there, so we ended up doing a low pass across the LZ while hosing down the tree line. While we were leaving I remember passing a Charlie Model coming in Hot the other way. We passed each other like we were on a two lane road somewhere. That's not exactly the normal way to cover but I was very happy to see that Gunny. I was flying with LT Schrieber as PP and My hootchmate Cpt Howe was in the other ship. Smitty, do you remember that day? I always felt bad that we didn't get our ROKs on the ground, but also dread the thought of sitting in that LZ alone. You guys got the shit shot out of you, and all we had were dirty shorts. Aloha Nui Loa, and Mele Kalikimaka. Animal
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 00:02:38 (MST)

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Kim, I don't remember doing a "Snoopy" there, but somewhere out in that neighborhood we hauled in a bunch of ROK's on a CA. We were going into the LZ with another slick behind us. The LZ was so hot we were seeing muzzle flashes 360-degrees around us. I remember a pair of our gunships (maybe it was you!) circling the LZ above the trees going HOT! On our first attempt into that LZ we inserted all on board but one ROK. They got pinned down real bad. We pulled out of there so fast we broke a chin bubble and were cutting trees. Rebel circled us around and I tossed out the last ROK by his rucksack. I broke the operating rod on my M60, so ran through a bandolier of 20 round M16 clips while doing all that! We shut it down at the PZ to assess the damage and discovered damage from 20+ small arms rounds and what appeared to be B40 damage to the tailboom. We had it slingloaded back to Lane by a Chinook. My life flashed before my eyes on that one... My bird got a brand new tailboom out of that mess!
Dave Powers
USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 14:38:27 (MST)

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Since ya`all talkin about Tuy Hoa....Does anyone remember the "big rock" on top of the mountain, just west of Phu Hiep? You could see it from Tuy Hoa also!!! Koreans (White Horse) use to blast away a that mountain just about every night. And the Navy would blast away at the area, I think you guys are talking about, just west of Tuy Hoa. I forget what size of shell the Navy was using....but people would say they were shooting "Volkswagons" at the mountains. You could hear the shells come across Phu Hiep at night time.....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 13:46:57 (MST)

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Alex Fernwaldt I need to talk to you about the upcoming reunion. Please send me your new phone number and address. I will call you. Thanks
Tom Pedersen <Safetyshark@aol.com>
Atlanta, Ga USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 13:36:10 (MST)

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Hello flight and to all my broyjers and sisters, and yo those wholove to ride there bikkse i hope it comes out the way it did for me http://www.midnight-ride.com/ it should ce a good sight no smutt there was some nice looking bikes there i was told elvis had one to bad he cant send a pic for all to see; well i guess i been ok not sure hard to explain a brother always ray God i sure hope the sight comes out like it did when i open it was nice
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 13:25:02 (MST)

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KIm,I didnt fly on that one BUT,thats where gabby, the others and I had our trouble. While flying inland there,we saw truck paths and what appeared to be a well used traing area. Its also where we took incoming fire. That place was very spooky.Lots and lots of signs of use and habitation with out any signs of "good guys" with in miles and miles of that "ao".If I remember correctly, thats the area where we also threw out "choi hoi" leaflets from a very high altitude while also recieving incoming fire.That place just gave me he creeps.I imagaine a snoppy low/high ( sniffer ) mission there would have gotten very intresting.Your statement has gotten my couriousity up,can you give the story? Had a very heavy frost this morning,temps in the teens.Last night Tiffant( susans daughter) came running out into the living room and said..Hey Mum,hey Mum,its -6 degrees outside (centigrade).Chuckling here,Every new low temp in something she hasnt experiniced.The heavy frost,scraping of the windshield,was completely new for her.a side of things she hadnt even considered.Had a few dusting of snow so far,suppose to get 3 inches sunday.Now that will be something for her.She hasnt experenced the mess yet,nor seen the quiet beauty of a freshly fallen, snowy, landscape.At 19,she is still wide eyed at a few things. I know you folks can remember back to when we went to a new, foriegn country,all the new ways of doing things and the culture.Anyway, I think I am enjoying watching these two ladies go thru their first winter,perhaps more than they are experencing it.129th folks, dont let a full hotel stop you from coming to indy.HEll,bring a tent and camp in my back yard,garage,living room,.Ron Payne and I were talking at the xmas party at "pop a top".The hotel is kinda away from things here in indy.So if any of you want the 5 cent tour, let us know and we will be glad to take you around.Speedway( the indy 500 and brickyard 400) have a great museum at a 5 dollar cost.The gift shop ,is of course, free to enter,as is the track itself.The slippery noddle is a famous "blues bar" here.Lots of stuff to do downtown.Rick, do you have any updates on the butterfly? Sounds like great news for yuo melody. g'day all.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 07:53:12 (MST)

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Sir Mick Jagger....Knighthood...Who would have thought 30 years ago....."I don`t want to be 50 years old and still playing Rock and Roll"...Mick Jagger..Rolling Stone 1971...Kim...I was in Germany in November of "71"...I had about a month left in the Army.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 06:30:04 (MST)

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Rick England, what ever happened to the Iron Butterfly? I lost track of it after it went south. We finally got dug out from a three foot storm last weekend, just in time to deal with a day of rain! Winter is heah, for shoah! Gently, it's good to see the increase over last year, you've started something very good..... thanks for being there for us. Fred, Fred, Dave, Smitty, did any of you ever do a snoopy mission inland of Tuy Hoa, late fall (November) 71? I remember being cover on one that got very interesting. Kim
Kim La Voie
Livermore, Me USA - Friday, December 12, 2003 at 04:25:59 (MST)

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Remeber me asking questions about that helicopter? A guy from the 48th AHC e-mailed me and told me that he recognized it right away. He was a gunner on it in 68. Gave me the tail number and found out its history. Just thought it was a neat thing. A big apology for not being able to sned money in for the Christmas fund. I would of really liked to but a family money issue came up and I am going to be bone dry money wise for a month, i'd love to do it this next year. Hope all are having a wonderful and peaceful Holiday Season.
Melody Pershall <melody1181@yahoo.com>
Amarillo, TX USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 22:47:05 (MST)

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A Soldier's Christmas 'Twas the night before Christmas, he lived all alone, In a one bedroom house made of plaster and stone. I had come down the chimney with presents to give, And had to see just who in this home did live. I looked all about, a strange sight I did see, No tinsel, No Presents, Not even a tree. No stocking by the mantle, just boots full of sand. On the wall hung pictures, of a distant land. With Medals and Badges, Awards of all kinds, A sober thought, came to mind. For this house was different, it was dark and dreary, I found the home of a Soldier, Once I could see clearly. The Soldier lay sleeping, silent, alone, Curled up on the floor, In his one bedroom home. The face was so gentle, The room in such disorder, Not how I pictured, A United States Soldier. Was this the hero of whom I'd just read? Curled up on a poncho, The floor for a bed? I realized the families that I saw this night, Owed their lives to these Soldiers, who where willing to fight. Soon around the world, children would play, And grownups would celebrate, a bright Christmas day. They enjoyed Freedom, each month of the year, Because of these Soldiers, like the one lying here. I couldn't help wonder, how many lay alone, On a cold Christmas Eve, In a land Far from home. The very thought, brought a tear to my eye. I dropped to my knees and started to cry. The Soldier awakened, and I heard a rough voice, "Santa don't cry, this life is my choice; I fight for Freedom, I don't ask for more, My life is my God, My Country, My Corps." The Soldier rolled over, and soon drifted to sleep. I couldn't control it, I continued to weep. I kept watch for hours, So silent and still And we both shivered from the cold night's chill. I didn't want to leave on that cold, dark night, This Guardian of Honor, so willing to fight. Then the Soldier rolled over, with a voice soft and pure, Whispered, "Carry on Santa. It's Christmas Day, All is Secure." One look at my watch, and I knew he was right. Merry Christmas my friend, And to all a good night.
Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 19:06:08 (MST)

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For the reunion Reservations call the hotel direct. The 800 # says were full thats not true. Fred we live off of each other that is the family we have. If we can help each other that is what we have. We are the ones that understand what went on. flight be careful out here for the holidays. clear left Youtr brother always
Rick England
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 19:02:29 (MST)

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Heads down, everybody... INCOMING (SPAM)!
Dave Powers
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 14:56:25 (MST)

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seems some folks are trying to get our email addys for spam.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 07:34:10 (MST)

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Thought For The Day.....The rule of friendship means there should be mutual sympathy between them, each supplying what the other lacks and trying to benefit the other, always using friendly and sincere words. It is said, that love is blind, but friendship is clairvoyant.....
Fred Skaggs
USA - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at 12:05:52 (MST)

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$1325!!!! Thanks to all of you who contributed to the Christmas fund! $1325 is a lot of money and with it we can do a lot. You should all be very proud of yourselves! May what you gave come back to you triple-fold! I'm still looking for names of friends and brothers to give this(these) gift(s) to, so please email me with suggestions. It's a good day on the 129th web page! With smiles-Gently
Gently
USA - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at 07:09:45 (MST)

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Gently, yep no more kodak email. It's bulldog265@bluefrog.com
Robbie
Rochester , NY USA - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 17:49:45 (MST)

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Fred A. "if they ever play" is the operative phrase (ha). We're pretty proud of Clinton Portis right now (I never thought I'd say "Clinton" and "proud" in the same sentence)!
Dave Powers
USA - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 13:17:09 (MST)

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Robbie, are you still using the "kodak" email address? Dan Hertlain and Mr. McCort may I have yours also. With laughter-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 10:39:06 (MST)

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Thanks guys. We'll try to get some benefits for the Lao-Hmong, but we know better. Like you said Fred, benefits are not even there for you guys, and we all know they won't be for our Iraqi and Afghanstan Veterans. But, we feel we owe it to them(Lao-Hmong) to try. Again, the book "The Ravens" is a very good read, especially on these indoor winter evenings. Trust me. Happy Birthday to those of you getting older :>))-but still as cute as ever! I need some names of people to consider for our Christmas gift(s)...please don't hesitate to ask for yourself...please. With prayers for Peace-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 07:21:38 (MST)

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hey freddy, the pic of the rotorblade you took ,has my sks hanging on the left side of the pic
alvis
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 19:21:40 (MST)

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freddy, sounds like a great oppertunity to 'bounce",course I never have done that.Hell yes, let the loa guys go for it,just dont think it will happen,as I said, they dont want us either.ROBBY.....ROBBY.... hey buddy, try mixing that stuff with a little apple juice,kills the vile taste,course get docs ok first.They said it was ok for me ,and believe me, it helps.Make sure you have plenty of toilet paper and reading material.St first anyway.If you can, get them to give you a shot to relax first, I hear they sometimes do that. Hope all good results for you. For the time being,if my emails arrive empty,patience please.I think I am going to switch over to my "real" mail box instead of hot mail,so it will be from ..now dont laugh cause its my wood working stash of sites and plans,but its "ghoasties stuff" as a email header.Freddy,I ave only had a chance to open one of your e mail pics..laughed and brought back memories,espically the posters on the wall behind you. Wonder if that was the orginal ever ready bunny? chuckle.Robby, glad that stuf missed you,after licing in binghamton for 6 or8 years, I know how bad it can get. Dave POWERS, THE COLTS PLAY DENVER in 2 or 3 weeks.Now that will be a good game. Colts qill win, of course.As far as denver beating kanas City..well,even a blind pig will find a acorn once in a while. Just kidding, just kidding. Happy holidays, g'day mates
alvis
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 18:06:53 (MST)

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Gently....I was just saying I respected the former enemy(NVA and VC) and have no problem with our allies (Lao-Hmong) getting some benefits. I was kinda bouncing around that night. It was my Brithday week-end and a Friday night....and the wife was trapped in Atlanta at the airport , trying to get out. Home Alone!!!! So I took a cab to the pub and cracked a few Heinekens...call the cab back ....went home....rolled me up a couple "fat one`s" and I`m almost positive I was "bouncing around". But I didn`t drive.....just can`t type good and arrange my thoughts well at those moments. That`s all folks!!!!!
Fred Skaggs
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 17:02:44 (MST)

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Been a while since i've posted here. Fred A, we reallly didn't get any snow from that storm. the cold air from canada kept that storm to the south of us. We only have a covering here. Fred A happy birthday. Mine is the 9th. I'm going to be 55 tomorrow. I have my colonoscopy Friday, and i can't wait to drink a gallon of bad tasting stuff to clean me out. I just hope that all looks good when they go up there. Hope everyone is ok. Robbie
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 15:55:01 (MST)

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Just to clarify who the Lao-Hmong are. They are not the enemy, nor "former" enemy. They were trained and supported by the CIA to fight the NVA in Laos(a border country of Vietnam), while you men were in Vietnam. They killed thousands of NVA in Laos who would otherwise have entered Vietnam and put many more names on the "Wall." They were on our side, our allies, while trying to establish and maintain a democracy in their country of Laos. Thanks for your feedback everyone. They want us to still pursue benefits for them, but I made it pretty clear that benefits probably weren't going to happen, and for a number of reasons. Fred, got the pixs..looks like it was fun. Wish I could have been there. Mark looks good, glad to see that. I'll count our Christmas Fund money tonight, maybe tomorrow night, and report the total. I think we should close it now and start looking at whom to give it to. Please email me, everyone, with names and reasons. I know we're over $1000, so we can help more than one person if we want to. I bet we're at about $1300.00 as an off the cuff guess. :>)))Please do not hesitate to ask for yourself to be considered....who knows better that you need some help. And remember, it's all confidential between Alex, Mark and myself. No one else will know. The bracelet was sent out yesterday, 3-4 day UPS, and the check for such has been received. None of the checks have been cashed yet, incase you're wondering why your statements aren't balancing.... Always there-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 11:04:34 (MST)

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colts will whip their butts if they ever play
alvis
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 08:52:37 (MST)

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How about those Broncos...
Dave Powers
USA - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 07:35:54 (MST)

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Avis, it may be a tape I gave Mark at the reunion, if so Kal is to send one to Gale. My daughter gets her sister -in-law to make copies for me and they live a 100 miles away and it takes me awhile to get them. Alex,Max,Eddie Mardis and Don Miller have copies, you may get one of them to make one for you quicker than I can. J.W. Wilson
J.W. Wilson
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 21:03:46 (MST)

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I have sent to a few of you pics of mark,dee and spence in the pop a top. My email service(hot mail) is severly messing up.Many of my messages to some of you have beem opening up empty or with some sort of add in it.grrrr. AM trying to download pics of the party. Having great difficulty downloading pics of objects on walls and hanging from cealing.grrrr. Jim, I really want to send you the pic of your chicken plate.While the party was progressing, Mark had a vcr going of a series of motion pics taken from someone here in the 129th. I hope you dont mind, I ask Mark if he would make me a copy.Some of that was darn good work. Happy holidays, fred alvis.
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 17:09:00 (MST)

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Happy birthday freddy ,blessings tp you and yours
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 15:35:47 (MST)

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Happy Birthday FRED....Hope you have many more.Keith
Keith 72-73
ms USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 14:52:24 (MST)

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Fred, Happy Birthday! Also , my wife graduated from Miami Of Oh and as a good old Tarheel at 2-10 I have had a rather hard season. Take care and hello to Kim.
jeff
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 11:13:29 (MST)

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Max.....that could be...but the local news hasn`t said anything about it and I`ve been watching closely. Oh Well.....it`s my brithday today....So I`m kinda in a weird mood...reality can be humbling. I`m gonna ramble a little bit here.....I know alot of you don`t really care for sports.....but there are a lot of lessons in life that can be related in sports. Football for one is a good example...it`s kinda a military battle....there`s defense and offense....stategy.....blitz`s and long bomb`s.....I stole that from George Carlin...but it`s true. Take Kansas State for example......Oklahoma was the biggest and the baddest college football team to come down the pike in the last 50 years. What I saw was Oklahoma`s blantant arrogance....nobody is gonna beat us because we are the big bully on the block. Well Kansas State "bloodied" the bullies nose, and beat them good. Now that comes full circle......Kansas State had 3 loses this season....one of those lose`s was to "little" Marshall University in Huntington,W.V. Now Miami of Ohio( the Harvard of the Midwest) beat Marshall and Marshall beat Kansas State and Kansas State beat Oklahoma.....Now Miami of Ohio graduates almost 90% of their football players....they don`t go on to the Pro`s...some do...but those are late bloomer`s and exception`s. The student body average`s about a 1100 SAT score as a group on their entrance exam`s. Miami of Ohio embodies the true meaning college sports... scholar first....footplayer second!!!!! Miami of Ohio( 12-0) won`t get shot at the national championship....they get to go to "The GMAC Bowl" in Detroit, Michigan. Aw yes....Detroit in Mid-December....what a paradise!!!!!Just goes to show.....the smartest and the brightest stars will not get to shine......the big money and power and greed will override that. Yesterday while watching the Army and Navy game......poor Army...0-13...for the season. I`m not short changing Navy by alongshot....they`ve had a great season...Go Navy... Also those young men have SAT`s of 1200 and over....cream of the crop. But after graduation...those young men are not going to the Pro`s.....After those "butter bars" get put on their shoulder`s...a large percentage will go somewhere a little tuffer that a football game. Some of our greatest leaders in history come from those military academies......Westley Clark comes to mind.....Rhodes Scholar....Highly decorated Viet-Nam Vet.... that`s near and dear to my heart. Colin Powell..... no I don`t think so....ROTC at CCNY....wonder what his SAT`s were???? Once again the smartest and the brightest star doesn`t get to shine....once again money, power and greed will step up. Ronald Regan replacing FDR on the dime coin???? Somehow I remember...I think....through the "cloud of smoke" from college.... that had something to do with the "March of Dimes" that funded research for the cure to Poliomyelitis(polio). A disability that FDR overcame to become President of the United States. As Brother Fred Alvis says....Hmmmmmmmm Well my SAT`s were not great.....about 759.....700 is the "cut-off point" you don`t get in college. Come graduation day....I was sitting "in-the -back" of the auditorium...with the football players...thinking," How did I make it???? Brothers and Sisters???? please don`t be offended by my ramblings....Please consider it a small gift to me for my brithday....from the Honorable men and women of the 129th AHC.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 10:53:35 (MST)

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Took a few pics at the xmas party last night,mostly of the bar and items hanging around . Jim Westwang, I wanted to take a pic of your chicken plate to send to you,thats waht gave me the idea.over the years Mark has been having folks sign it.Thought you would be interested.Hate the start of those parties..when they anounce who and how many have died since the last party.The 173 lost 2 this year.its happening to us to folks,so please try to make nexts year reunion,It might be your ,or my, last one. Gently , Spence ask of you and sends his reguards.Someone gave Ron Payne a really nice carved ,in battle uniform,wooden, iraqi campaign, american solider about 8 inches high or so.Who ever id it,did a very nice job.He,Susan and I kinda got in one corner and staked out the 19th site,chuckling here.JIm, I havent downloaded the pics yet,when i do, I will forward them to you.Told Mark that I would run you up ther one day , if you wanted,as Ron did Rick.Hope this posting finds all of you,and yours,in good health and happy holidays to each and every one of you.Robby,you dig your way out of the snow yet?
alvis
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 06:10:55 (MST)

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Hi flight; been awhile since I posted, but I do look in every couple of days. KEITH: sorry to hear about your brother — I lost mine without any warning, too, so know how you must be feeling. FRED: is it possible that what you saw was an escaped European Fallow deer, from some zoo or animal park? I used to raise them on my little farm, and they are pure white and about the size of a whitetail. XMAS in Nam: In late Dec. '66, as I recall, we were in Kon Tum, supporting the 101st; we brought most of the 101st field units in for Xmas, but on the 25th some of us volunteered to fly hot chow to the outlying and security units, and I believe I recall some really greatful grunts! I was also in Nam on Xmas in '65, on Cam Rahn peninsula with the unit I originally went over with. All we had for food was some really old canned crap — I think from the Korean War — so our night patrol caught a couple of sea turtles that had come up on the beach to lay eggs, and the cooks did them up into a stew. Tasted pretty good, but tough as hell. Enough from me for now. Bite and Strike!
Max Whittington
USA - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 01:02:59 (MST)

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Don McCort, e-mails keep coming back. Trying to contact you for your address. Flight, anyone know Bud Raineys address? Thanks, Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 14:20:30 (MST)

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Gently, I agree with Alvis.....they stand a better chance of getting anything from the VA than our own troops. Go for it! Fred S, if a black cat is bad luck.....surely a white doe has got to be good luck. Are you sure it wasn't a "white rabbit from the 60's"? :o)) Alvis, you & Ron have a good (and safe) evening at the "Pop A Top" tonight. Say hello to all for me. Clear, Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 13:29:26 (MST)

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freddy, I have never seen one in life either.I would love to see one. Hey, luck comes in bundles....quick, go play the lotto, smile.
alvis
USA - Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 06:56:49 (MST)

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By the way......This ain`t no shit.....as most lies start out...But today I was driving here in Raleigh...and on Atlantic Ave.....if you ever been to Raleigh...is in the city limits and very urban area....as I was driving a Albino Doe ran across the road in front of me.....wildest thing I ever have seen in a while.....the only albino deer I`ve ever seen......and NO .....I hadn`t been drinking or smoking..................yet............But I wonder is that some sort of sign or good luck or something????????
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 21:07:23 (MST)

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I misspelled...... Assault......
F.I.S
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 19:26:58 (MST)

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Well Gently..... I have gained a deep respect for my prior enemy.....why not....as long as everything is equal.....Think about it...those people really put their ass on the line and families also......they didn`t have to do it......I just give respect to ANY "Poor Fucker" that has been through any war......Pardon Me ladies and gentlemen.....It`s MY week-end.... If I die tomorrow....I`ve lived a good full life....Viet-Nam encluded.... As long as WE are not short changed in the process.....It`s all cool.... But what the hell.....December,7th is here again......THE KID...turns 53 years old Sunday......I still got the quick jab and the "Bob and Weave" and full assualt...as I fall on my ass in the shower...tryin to wash what hair I have left.....AWE Yes.....Youth is a mask....and it don`t last.....so live it long..... and..... live it fast. .... Never look back.....something might be gaining on your ass..... Father Time.....Let me go "Pop-A-Vioxx"..........
Fred Skaggs
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 19:13:54 (MST)

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hell, the va doesnt even want to take care of its own soliders,the bean counting side anyway.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 19:10:51 (MST)

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As a point of discussion...what is your feeling on the Lao-Hmong recieving VA benefits? The Lao-Hmong fought with the CIA against the NVA and Pathet Lao in Laos while you were fighting the VC and NVA in Vietnam. They killed thousands of NVA in Laos who were then unable to kill our soldiers in Vietnam. They were trained to rescue our downed pilots and crews in Laos and NV, maintained radar and radio posts in Laos, and lead insurgence into both while infiltrating the enemy armies. Fully supported and financed by the CIA. When Vietnam fell in '75, the CIA took off. They left the Lao-Hmong to fend for themselves, without arms, food, and money. 1000's died escaping, thousands more for killed and tortured. Those who made it to Thailand have little by little been getting into the U.S. and trying to make new lives. They lost their country, friends and family members, fighting for and with the united States of America. Today they suffer with the same diseases and disorders that Vietnam Veterans have.....but they get zero medical help from our VA system. The policy of the VA is such that they will treat our war time allies, but the VA must be reimbursed by the country of origin. Fat chance of such in this case: these people can never go back to Laos, they would be killed if they did. There are a few thousand remaining in the hills of Laos,who continue to fight, but they are being attacked and killed everyday, so the Lao-Hmong will never get their country back. I didn't mean for this to be such a long tale, but I wanted to give you a little background on them. There is a very good book called "The Ravens" which is about our "secret war" and the Americans and Lao-Hmong who fought in it. Its a quick read, an amazing read, and very interesting. I have met some of the "Ravens" and "Air Commandos" who fought with the Lao-Hmong, and they have nothing but praise and respect for them. There are some Vietnam Veteran who are considering a campaign to demand VA benefits for our Lao-hmong allies. What are your thoughts? You can email me if you'd rather. Always there for our Veterans-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 14:54:42 (MST)

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chuckling at freds post. I have sent a few of you e mails that when opened had an advertisement posted. Sorry guys and girls,not my intention. My email is screwing up.I have been going into the helivets site,posted about the pop a top party and at least one other heli vet will show up there.A few in there have had the pleasure of meeting mark and Dee,much to my surprise.Hoping for a weather break here,we are on a winter stom warning. Take care all, fred.
alvis
USA - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 03:38:25 (MST)

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Yes....those were the days...Bong Son Bomber`s, Cambodian Red, O J`s, Banoctol Number 10`s and 7`s, Obesetol.....and the "Killer Elite"....SKAG!!!!!!..... The "Gas Mask" wasn`t used for gas attacks.....Shotgun`s were just what they named it, blown through a 12 gauge shotgun. I was just a "pothead". I remember telling a "smart ass" History Professor in college," I was on the Bong Son H.S. Mortar Team....I was "All Viet-Nam" and on a "fullride scholarship".....never used a motar in my life...I guess the professor wasn`t the only "smart ass" in the crowd. Some of the guys thought "Skaggs" was a "nickname" for me. They would come by my "hootch" and say," Man...you got something for the head"????. I would say," That`s my last name ....for real...I don`t mess around with that stuff!!!!! Of course they had name tags on my nomax.....but I think that was so I wouldn`t forget who I was......
Fred Skaggs
USA - Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 17:52:25 (MST)

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bong son bomber, now That was an aptly named product of the R.V.N.
alvis
USA - Thursday, December 04, 2003 at 15:00:27 (MST)

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gonna miss you gale. Ray, hope thAT grandbaby is feeling better.Sigh, last day of vacation for me.
alvis
USA - Wednesday, December 03, 2003 at 08:15:54 (MST)

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hello flight. and all my brothers and sisters. just came to say hi. I SEEN THE VET CENTER MAN. HECK SOUNDS LIKE IAM GOING TO THE DOG POUND,, BUT HE'S GOT TEST BACK I GOT A GAF RATING OF 40 SO FAR BEFORE THE TEST THEY GAVE ME 30% BUT VET MAN SAYS NO NEED 100 SO WE SEE I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOWHOW ALL IS GOING.. I KNOW ONE THING ME ANG GAIL WILL BW AT INDY, I ALSO REORDED THE BROTHERS FOREVER PINS I HAVE THOSTE TO GIVE OUT HOW ARE YOU DOING GALE AND DEBBIE, GRAND KID IS SICK THE YOUNGUST HAS BACTERIAL PHENUMONIA IT SEEMS HES ALWAYS SICK , I DONT USE NAMES BUT GALE ASKED ONCED DAY I DONT FOR I DONT WANT TO MISS ANY ONE YOU ALL ARE MY FRIENDS, AND ARE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IAM SO SORRY FOR ALL THOSE WHO LOST THERE LOVE ONES , BUT ITS SO HARD FOR ME TO SAY WORDS WHEN ONE IS IN PAIN. AGAIN IAM NOT EVEN SURE IF THESE ARE RIGHT FOR ONE THING I LACK THE MOST IS CONFIDINVE .SORRY BUT I WILL BE A A BROTHERE TO ALL OF YOU AND IF I CAN HELP PLEASE ASK AND I BE THERE. FOR I CANE SO FAR WITH YOUR HELP THANK YOU RAY,,,, OH TO BAD WE CANT GET SPELL CHECK ;-) BE SAFE ALL STAY WELL
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
md USA - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 13:49:38 (MST)

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Kim LaVoie....As my Mother use to say about Viet-Nam," Never hate the player(our troops), hate "the game" that`s being played". My Mom was and still is a pretty "hip" ole gal, amazing how much smarter she got as I got older.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 11:45:42 (MST)

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Alex, I remember Christmas at Lane in 67 also.....a real strange feeling and lots of thoughts of home! I also still have my Thanksgiving menu from 67. It sounded really good to read, but,as I recall it had a lot to be desired. Alvis, not gonna make the party Saturday. Just too much family stuff and a little too far away. Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 11:45:28 (MST)

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Rainer: What about the great Christmas dinner at Dong Ba thin 1965. They really built it up. And ended up all was dehydrated. Add the water and poof Christmas dinner. The c-rations was better. Plus the big movie turned out to be a training flim on V.D. Great Christmas at Dong Ba Thin 1965. I spent Christmas 1967 at Lane. Better living conditions then the previous years. Remember a party at the fire station. Was quite a few guys there. Around New years I think is when a couple of guys wanted me to get the red jeep at the firestation and take them to the car wash on the main road. Forget who was with me. One was drunk as a hoot owl. After a short time there is when charlie decided to interrupt the parties. Flare ships were up as I looked out the door at the car wash. Charlie was coming across the river that ran along the main road. We grabed our drunk Brother and got him into the jeep and headed back to lane. We weren't bright enough to take any weapons with us. Also remember someone had brought some girl on lane from Qui Nhon so about 6 of us were trying to get them off post. Back to Qui Nhon on a duce and half and one of the guys discharged his m-14. That mission was cancelled right fast. Think they flew them back the next day. Some of the crazy things we did. Alex 65-68
Alex
Collierville, Tn. USA - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 at 08:20:55 (MST)

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Gently, I'll take you up on the offer if it comes to pass. Thanks :>))) Christmas 71.....I lost my ship sometime early December, hooked a piece of psp on takeoff,and went through several gyrations before suffering a hard landing. Having nothing to do, and being a bit of a redneck juice freak, I was causing trouble around home base. Ended up being sent TDY to Long Binh, to help train Royal Thai Air force types in gunships. Got to watch Bob Hope, met up with an old? friend from stateside, smoked too much, drank too much. After we finished that duty, a few of us took off for Vung Tao, and partied there till the MP's got sick of us, and made us go home. Did a bit of the gypsy routine, catching flights with everyone from the VNAF to the Navy, and flew all over Vietnam, before ending up in Phu Cat, and hitching a ride back to Lane. Somewhere through the haze,(purple?), I appropriated an M60, carried it all over the place, and never had anyone question it till I tried going through the main gate at Lane!!!! Some welcome that was!!! I was shocked to see that our beloved uh1-c/m's had been replaced by Ah1-G's. It was a sad day for me.........Fred Skaggs, I had the revelation last night. The GREATEST GENERATION..the ones we let down, are pretty much gone. It's our kids, in some cases, grandkids, who are doing the dirty work now, and I'll support them for doing what they do! Personally, I don't believe that sad ass was any more a threat to America than Canada is, and it's our shame that we let ourselves get into this mess. But, it's not the soldier's and Sailor's fault for doing their duty, and I'm proud that they put up with all they do, in the service of our country!
Kim la Voie
Livermore, Me USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 21:05:29 (MST)

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December 2, 69 Michael H. Shanley and three friends became MIA. It is 34 years since we last saw them. May they rest in peace. I used to wear a red bracelet for Michael but I replaced it with a black one last week. (in his memory) I know he will never return but he will never be forgotten.
Katharine
USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 15:54:52 (MST)

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Christmas of 66 was my worst time over there. I had extended to be home for Christmas & the Army lost me. Tuy Hoa in 66 was one big sand dune with a small PSP runway, not the big airstrip the Air Force built. The company was leaving but my helicopter was broke so I was left guarding it until it could be picked up and taken to Dong ba Tin. Of course wires got crossed and calls were not made with the results I was there two weeks alone. The closest unit was a company of ROKs about a mile away. The company descovered they were missing a helicopter, backtracked and found me, didn't get home untill Jan.15.
Rainer Bauer <bauerrv@aol.com>
Indy, USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 12:37:39 (MST)

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grrrr, somebody slap me, it was xmas of 71
alvis
USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 09:18:17 (MST)

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Kim, this was my first Thanksgiving alone also. I did a very small community deed in the morning, went home, put "Hamburger Hill" in the VCR, and thought about you guys and your Thanksgivings in Vietnam for the remainder of the day. Next year, we may have to have a Thanksgiving for us orphans--my house:>)) If any of you are going to be alone on Christmas please email me-we'll do a chat line. Always there-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 09:15:28 (MST)

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Christmas of 72. In Dec., of 72, we came down with the mission of a TDY ,lasting several weeks, at Tuey Hoa. Our mission was to support Mac V personal in small, out of the way villages. We were to take them mail and hot chow and general be useful toward their goals. Now being tdy near xmas was like being away from home and friends while being away from home and friends. Our “circle” had been reduced from our unit to just the four of us. Tuey Hoa at this time had been reduced to an empty shell of what it once was, with the reduction of troops and all. We were garrasioned with the air force people, just a small detatchement. As xmas grew closer, the our aloneness grew around us like silent gray walls. We had made friends with the wing wipers, drinking with them at night and such. I believe their missions were to support arty spotters, those little push pull type fixed wings. Xmas eve approached and plans were hatched to have a party. Now these wing wiper types drank beer out of plastic or wooden skulls, I never did find out which ,but they were of the crazy type one found in nam. Xmas eve, we did our thing of flying hot meals to outlaying macV folks,in tiny little villes, giving them there beer rations and mail from home. When we got back to tuey hoa, the xmas plan had been laid, and we were a key part .Mr. Gibson (gabby to those who knew him) , our Ac then explained to us , while asking for our permission to do this last xmas eve flight. The peter pilot( forgive me ,his name has been swallowed by the mist and fog of time) and crew chief (see last statement) and myself all agreed to keep our mouth shut and do this last flight of the day. It was getting towards sundown as we walked toward our awaiting bird. We carried machine guns over our shoulders and wool blankets as we walked thru the heavily guarded flight line. Sentries with m 16s slung over their shoulders watched us with bemused faces. as they at least didn’t have to face real danger that night, as we many times did, simply by flying. Arriving at our bird, we did the usual preflight checks, mounting the guns, bleeding of fuel to drain any water. checking fluid levels, clean ,dry and rust free ammo, ect. We took our places, fired up the bird, contacted Tuey hoa tower, and was cleared for take off. Clear right, clear left, tailboom is clear was heard as we lifted off, Gabby jently pulling pitch as we started to soar and gain airspeed. Our mission was to go to the village of tuey Hoa itself and pick up 6 personel to be transported back . It was xmas eve ,after all, and that’s the least we could do for our airforce friends.Well, after a ride of about 3 minutes.we made our approach to the ville , set down with out shutting down that god of helicopter people, the lycoming L-13 engine. After helping our passengers on board and making sure they were buckled up, with smiles on our faces, we cleared the aircraft for take off. Up ,UP and away we soared, blades digging deep into the hot, darkening skies. Contacting Tuey Hoa tower for our landing instructions as we were on final almost as soon as we lifted off. Taxing up the runway ,we were the only bird alive that evening. all else being shut down for the holiday. Gently setting the bird down, as an airforce, º ton truck pulled next to us, Gabby says” ok guys, lets get them off and put those blankets over them. Keeping a watchfull eye out for the flight line guards, we covered the passengers and hustled them off the aircraft. Sounds of laughter and giggling came from under those blankets. We had just picked up 6 hookers and deposited them with our airforce friends for the xmas party that night. Being near broke, I didn’t partake in that evenings entertainmant. I did however find some folks playing cards and drinking. As I rarely drank over there (I was a pot head) , I got pretty wasted
alvis
USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 09:11:07 (MST)

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