alvis
oopppps
USA - Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 06:28:27 (MDT)
To the tune of Steppenwolf`s song "Pusherman"......."I`ll shoot you if you run" and "I cut you if you stand", Damn....Damn.....The Pusher Spam.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 16:30:24 (MDT)
Fred Alvis, Hey Dude, This is Freddie Skaggs, not Fred Brown. But Fred Brown and I do think alot alike and have a lot in common, so I can see where you get confused. And three Fred`s on the web-site, that can confuse alot of people when they are just surfing. Good God, look at all that damn spam. We need a spam blocker on the web site.
Fred Skaggs
USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 16:08:50 (MDT)
fredddy BROWN, WELCOME BACK BUDDY.
alvis
USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 15:19:20 (MDT)
Flight, Just to let you know that the National world War Memorial has registry set up to submit names of those that served or contributed to the war effort.
The website is at http://www.wwiimemorial.com/ or by calling 1-800-639-4WW2.
Ernie Gschwender <ernieg3@hotmail.com>
Lincoln Park, MI USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 13:05:50 (MDT)
Well!! What`s Up !!!! Ladies and Gentleman!!!! Gently sorry to hear about your father and everybody else that`s dealing with illness or deaths in your families. It`s been so long since I`ve been online here at the web-site. I`m just trying to cover all the bases, but you all know where I`m coming from. Well we`ve got settled in our new condo, and trying to keep the sod alive in this Carolina heat!!!! Gonna have a hell of a water bill!! Also I`ve went back to work!!!! Yes, that dirty "four letter word". But I love my new job!!! I`m training to be a Horticulture Tech, I take care of tropical plants in big office building`s and bussiness`s. I`m a "plant freak" anyway, so I`m getting to know all the species of plants and small tree`s. I`ve always had a "green thumb" and figured if I was going back to work, I would do something I love. I`m a "old flower child" anyway.But my job description is, Professional Interior Landscaping and Plant Design and Maintenance. My boss, Joey, is a great guy, he`s a real mature 28 year old young man. Alot of fun to work with and a great teacher. He`s a professional surfer, so working with him is keeping me kinda young feeling. Joey has his degree in Landscape Architecture from N.C.State University, so he knows his stuff. So I`m meeting lots of new people and learning alot. Honestly it is nice to have a "growing process" this late in life, sort of a metamorphois, for lack of a better word. Marky Mark, are you still hanging in there with the program? How is your father doing? Did you have any of those tornadoes in Mercer County? Ray, hope everything is working out for you. Fred Brown and Kim LaVoie and Animal(Greg) you guys need to check in, things are getting interesting on the "eastern front". Dave Powers, I guess you`re probably "broke" with your girls getting married, like the song said,"I just write them a check, and rub my neck" LOL!!!!!! Looks like the "pill pushers" and "sex freaky deakies" are taking over the web-site. And Mr. X, I feel ya brother, but no one is listening!!!!!! All you guys having car troubles, they don`t build them for us to be "shade tree" guys no more. And Gale, don`t buy them Rayloc altenators from NAPA, they just keep "going bad" until you find one that is good. I took a Rayloc Alt. back 4 times before I got one that worked. Seems the "big 3" auto manufacture`s, once they figured out everyone`s doing their own repairs.....can`t have that shit!!! Let`s redesign these cars and trucks, so they got to come into the dealership or repair shop to fix it. Well have a wonderful and safe Labor Day Weekend everybody!!!! Gale Beard, so you don`t like Bud beer, somebody needs to bring you a "Fotie Ounce" of Colt .45 or Old English 800 malt to Kokomo. Talk about giving you something to chew on!!!!! JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!
Fred Skaggs <ac459429@earthlink.net>
Raleigh, NC USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 10:05:53 (MDT)
Hi Hiss and Pisser’s, Have great thing to say about the Charleston VA. The people were honestly concerned about your welfare. This was so refreshing , having been to the one on Atlanta witch was just a zoo. Mark get all the quality time you can with your father. It’s a special bond that will shape the rest of your life. My Father died when I was in Viet Nam. Having to make all the arraignments at the VA in San Francisco to have him transported and buried in Tacoma Wa, was a great shock. He was a Man’s Man but not a very good father. I was very mad with him and took it out on him with a letter I wrote a month before he passed. I wrote some things that a 18 year old in Nam should not have put to paper. I’ll never even know how much that could have hurt him. The guilt I have carried for all these years has made me a different person. Honor thy Mother and Father.... Frenchie 68-69
Bill French <fren6222@bellsouth.net>
Savannah, Ga USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 09:27:48 (MDT)
"First they came for the Satanists, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a Satanist ( They are bad people anyway - aren't they?!)...........
"Then they came for the Witches, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a Witch (Witchcraft isn't a religion anyway is it?!)..........
"Then they came for the Gays and Lesbians, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a Homosexual (but they picked up my good friend Larry which must have been a mistake!!!).............
"Then they came for the Astrologers, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't an Astrologer (but it sure will be inconvenient not to read my daily horoscope!)...............
"Then they came for the psychics, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a psychic (but aunt Nora is!! Too bad. I sure did like that old lady!)...............
"Then they came for the Mormons, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a Mormon, ( they have more than one wife anyway. Isn't that illegal?!).................
"Then they came for the Catholics, but I wasn't worried, I wasn't a Catholic (they worship a woman anyway don't they?)............
"Then they came for Keith next door because he's not a Right Wing Fundamentalist. (Why did they do that? I protested that they were being unfair to arrest an honest and good.... Christian neighbor.)...................
"Then they came for me!!!!!"
...........Anonymous
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QUOTE OF THE DECADE: "If you don't think it's a gamble to put a man in the White House who believes we should have guns in church, who thinks the Taliban is a rock band, who was such a failure as a businessman that his company was nicknamed "El-Busto," who wants to turn our Social Security system into a Wall Street boiler room, who can't name a single thing he disagrees with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson on, who smeared a bona fide hero named John McCain, and whose principle policy proposal is to give America's surplus to the idle rich in the form of a $1.3 trillion tax cut, you're either nuts or a Republican."
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XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 18:36:01 (MDT)
Hello flight. Smitty & Ray Great pics of the reunion . Hello Bernie, Diane, Judith & Davy Powers. Fred Alvis I hope your car problems are fixed. Bill Shilleto where are youse? Flight please keep checking to see ifin' anyone recalls sp/4 Yarbrough. Someone out there was flying when he got shot that recalls. Enuff Said 426 out.
Bruno E Sanchez <bsanchez1@stx.rr.com>
Laredo , Tx USA - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 16:28:47 (MDT)
OK Guys, I'll nix the black clouds........I don't want to be responsible (since I'm usually called irresponsible) for anyones bad luck. Yea Judith, I'm trying to be like Alvis.....getting married, car problems, might grow a beard.....but, I'll have to draw the line at drinking Budweiser !!! (unless, of course, thats all there is). I hope Ron doesn't bring anymore of that skunk beer. First beer I ever had to chew before swallowing. Y'all have a good holiday weekend and of course "be careful out there !" Hehheeeehhehehe Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 14:50:42 (MDT)
HELLO FLIGHT AND ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, FRIST NEED TO TELL YOU ALL SOME HOW THE MEN WORKED ALONG WITH YOUR MANY PRAYES FOR I CAN MOW LIFT MY ARM OVER MY HEAD ALMOSR STRIGHT UP,, AND I DON'T SHAKE LIKE I USE TO, THE LAST VIST TI=O THE NEUROLOGIST TOLD ME HE SEEN NO CHANGE IN MY TREMORS AT ALL ,,THEN HE PUT ME ON THIS TOPIRAMATE WHAT A DIFFRENCE NO SHAKES, BUT HE SAID MY MIND WILL NEVER BE SAME OH WELL CANT HAVE IT ALL ;-) ROB I TRY SPELL CHEC WHEN I SEND E MAIL BUT AT TIMES IT DRAWS A BLANK THEN AT TIMES IT GIVES ME SO MANY WORDS I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT ONE TO USE BUT I TRY, I JUST CAME TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW I WAS DOING I FEEL GOOD REALY AND TO WISH YOU A GRATE WEEKEND YOU ALL TAKE CARE BE SAFE
A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY LOVE YOU ALL FO WITH OUT YOUR SUPORT I NEVER BE WHERE IAM NOW I THANK YOU ALL AGAIN THANKS HOPE THIS COMES OUT OK
RAY <stilwating@aol.com>
STREET , MD USA - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 13:41:59 (MDT)
Flight-I just read this on Martin Vanden Eykel's memorial at the VirtualWall. Hard to believe.....Gently
28 Jan 2002
My name is Patricia Kiefer and I was honored to wear Martin's bracelet for many years. I was so happy to find out that his body was recovered. May he rest in peace and may God bless him and his family. I truely know the pain his family went through. My 25-year-old son Michael Kiefer is one of the FDNY Firefighters that are still missing in the World Trade Center. People are now wearing his bracelet in hopes that he will be returned to the family that loves him. May God bless all of us.
Patricia Kiefer
714 Pine Street Franklin Square NY, 11010
fdnymom00@aol.com
Gently <Jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 13:40:38 (MDT)
HAVE FUN ENJOY THE BROTHERHOOD AROUND THE CAMPFIRES AND BE CAREFUL THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND. THE TIME HAS COME FOR ME TO HIT THE ROAD TONIGHT, WILL BE SPENDING THE WEEKEND WITH MY SON. ON MONDAY WILL GO TO MY SISTERS PLACE AND TUES. MORNING GODS WILLING AND CLEAR SKIES WILL GET MY FIRST FLIGHT LESSON,,,MAN AM I EXCITED,,,,WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW THAT GOES,,MABY SOLO THAT'S MY GOAL. I HAVE A FIRE PIT IN MY YARD WITH BRICKS AROUND THE OUTSIDE SO I'LL BE THINKING ABOUT THE FIRES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND THE ONE'S THAT CAN,T BE THERE AND FOR EVERYONE BE SAFE,,,,AND DON'T SEND THAT DAMN CLOUD THIS FAR SOUTH I DON'T NEED ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF LIKE I HAVE JUST LIVED...LOVE YOU ALL,,,,JIM AKA STICKS
jim oliver
pembroke, ga USA - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 12:40:04 (MDT)
I guess Keylogger didn't have much to say this morning. Ray, how you doing Brother? Get on here and do some spell checking for me... Did you get rid of that black mold yet? I was cleaning up more of the handles to my nut and bolt cabinet last night with Brasso. I forgot just how green that will get your fingers and nails.
Seeing as how kids are ready to go back to school, I have a joke that my Cousin told me.
A third grade teacher asked her students to tell her one thing that they did over summer, but she said you’re in the third grade now so I don’t want you to use any baby talk to tell me. I want you to use grown up talk.
So she asked Mary what she did and Mary said I went to Florida and visited my Nanny.
The teacher said now Mary we’re using grown up talk. You went to visit your Grandmother. Oh yes she said my Grandmother.
The teacher asked Tommy what he did and he said I went to an amusement park and rode on a Choo Choo Train. The teacher said Tommy use grown up talk. You rode on a Train.
Oh yes he said I rode on a Train.
The teacher asked Johnny what he did, and he said I read a book……… The teacher asked what book did you read? Johnny thought a minute and said Winnie the SHIT.
Robbie
Rochester, NY - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 06:10:37 (MDT)
Hi flight, Gale, dont send any clouds with that Helicopter because in lenoir County we have had almost 50 inches of rain since the middle of May. The tobacco crop will be short and light and most of the guys will not be able to buy new dually trucks to haul their deer and fox hounds on. clear. J. W. Wilson
J.W. Wilson
USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 17:27:36 (MDT)
Gale-real funny!!! 'Babysitting Gently!" Geez! You best not fall assleep at Kokomo! Kal, Ted and Rick won't be joining us, and that is really disappointing. But there are going to be new faces this year, including the Marine friend of mine who was incarcerated(Tom) and to whom some of you wrote...remember? Also, my younger sister has gotten herself velcro'd to a Vietnam Veteran(Army) and they will be joining us. We'll have to rate them! The Donut Dollie from the Mekong will be there again, but she knows so many people(probably all 35,000!) that quick hugs is about all anyone will get. The camp site will be larger because our "turkey" man friend is not allowing vehicles to park at it. Therefore, there will be more room for tents, and it sounds like more people will be camping at the site this year. Gale, you will not have to sleep in your truck-but you will have to bring beer. Robbie, best to your brother, Mark, best to your dad. I'm in touch with Ray on a daily basis and the Vet Center is helping him. He had a "test" for PTSD which was to last one hour-it took him 3 1/2---- but they may want to give it to him again because it took him so long. What?! Go figure!
Fred get that vehicle working....or we'll move the 35, 000 at the re-union to your place. And Gale, stop trying to be just like Fred: he gets married, now you are..his car gives him trouble now yours gives you trouble...are you going to grow a long white ZZ Top beard also? Be safe everyone---we had several motorcycle accidents yesterday...and I'm sure there will be more. Just so that Ron Paye is careful when when we both dress really "hot" and head out on the highway:>))))))))Peace-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 14:36:37 (MDT)
Alright, I've got the truck back on the road. The alternator had a lifetime warranty, so, it didn't cost me anything but time and some greasy hands. I'm gonna shove that big cloud down south some where, so, beware down there. Ray, where you been buddy? Keep in touch with us here. Gotta go cut some grass now....later. Clearleft. Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 12:50:35 (MDT)
Yea robbie our gas ranges from 1.99.9 to 3.79.9 we have that gas line that broke and it is fixed but the prices are still up there. Staying out of the tittie bars their to far away. Gotta save gas. HEHEHEHEHE I am just joking you know I wouldn't do that.*******Gale and Fred hope everthing goes right under that shade tree. Good luck. We had a rain storm here yesturday and flooded some roads the washes were running and the school closed down out here because the road was washing away. I am rambling on here about nothing I will close Flight you be carefulout there like Judith says keep smiling HEHEHEHEHEHE
Rick England
USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 09:20:41 (MDT)
Alex, thanks for the free advice from "Mr AutoZone". If you ever need advice from "Mr Zip", just let me know. That is if I remember any Postal business. I think I've forgotten more in my 3 years of retirement than I learned in my 32 year career. Like they say.."Postal workers never die....they lose their ZIP." I don't mind that as long as I can remember where my "ZIPPER" is!!!!:o[ JW, thanks buddy. I'll get that embossed Bulldog right out to ya! Looks like Kokomo is gonna be a little short on the 129th crew this year....... No Rick or Kal. I doubt if Ted will be there....no one has heard from him. How 'bout it Rainer? Alvis, I know one thing...you better show up cause I don't want to be stuck babysitting Gently!!! You know how 'Wild" she can get around that campfire. Flight, to repeat Rick England's famous words......"Be careful outthere" ;o) Gale
Gale
USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 08:44:35 (MDT)
Flight: Well hope everyone has a safe labor day!!! Fred and Gale hope you all are getting those trucks running. Face it, they don't make cars or parts like they use too!! Plus, not enough knowledge in the parts stores. Always have the old parts checked. Alot of wiring problems or connection problems. Free from MR. Autozone. Will be in the St. Louis Area over Labor Day. The Organization that gave the Huey rides, invited Charlie and I to work with them. To help find our Vietnam Brothers and also to advertise the VHCMA Organization. Were getting to be a dying breed. But, the help of the Vhcma and Mark I have found all of you. I will find out exactly where it will be and post it. So if anyone whom lives in the area can stop by. To all of my Brothers and Sisters I Love you all. I am Blessed with a Wonderful Wife , Family and all of you!! Alex
Alex <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Collierville, TN. USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 07:28:56 (MDT)
Rick, Gently, and Gale, nice to hear from you guys (and gal). Rick, what's the price of a gallon of gas going for in your neighborhood? It's around $1.80 here, and might be higher by this weekend. Gale, i'm sorry that Fred's cloud extended over to your house. Damn that Mikey Waltrip and his Napa parts. Maybe you should have gone to Alex Fernwalt recommended Auto Zone. eh Alex? Gently it sounds like you have started up a motel business at your place. You're a wonderful person to do all of that. Mark Jackson, i agree with Gale, give us an update on your Dad. I hope he's doing ok now. Well, i hope everyone has a nice Labor Day weekend. Any of you guys that were in the Gun platoon, Gale says he has a few embossed huey's left. I got one (slick of course) at the reunion and they look great hanging on the wall. Well worth the money he's asking..... Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, August 28, 2003 at 05:44:21 (MDT)
Hi Rob, hope your brother is on his road to recovery! I check in every day, but, too much to do during these summer months. I live about 1 hour west of Alvis and I think he has shoved that "black cloud" over my way. I put a rebuilt alternator on my pick up last Dec ($183 from NAPA) and it looks like it's went out already. That's just what I wanted to mess with today besides getting into my Kokomo funds. Thanks Alvis! ;o[ Flight, I still have a few "embossed Hueys" (Cobras), but, can make more if anyone's interested. I about break even at $10, so, a couple bucks for postage helps a lot. I'll e-mail a photo to anyone that wants to see them. If you want one, but,can't afford it...let me know. Mark, I hope that your Dad is doing better. He seemed like a fine & proud man when I met him. Well, I better get busy on my truck. Y'all have a great day (except for you damned spammers......can't you show a little respect and leave us alone!!!!!!!) Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 07:13:17 (MDT)
Robbie-we're here! Things are really heating up here in Milwaukee due to Harley's 100th brthday party happening this week. The city is expecting 350,00 bikers, but I bet we easily double that amount. Some of these participants(bikers) had to get hotel rooms over a hundred miles away because last summer, when local hotels opened their rooms for reservations, they went literally, overnight. So, I hope that with all of the drinking and late hours, everyone gets to their rooms or camp sites safely. And Ron Paye, Sir....which night are you staying with us, and how many friends are you bringing? I know you said something about 30 people coming with you, so we cleaned out the attic, basement, and garage. Then we mowed the lawn for tents, and got rental spaces elsewhere in the neighborhood for our cars. As an after thought, we rented 5 port-o-pots, hired a caterer, mechanic, and a doctor. I figure we'll call the place "Payeville." Put a smile on your face everyone-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 07:01:44 (MDT)
Congrats Glenn and Norma Jean. Glenn I couldn't find your e-mail addy. Fred good luck on your car I hope it find out what is wrong. Robbie glad to hear that your brother is doing better. Mark tell us how your Dad is doing. I hope everything is ok with everything. Flight be careful out therre.
Rick England
USA - Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 06:54:55 (MDT)
I checked the Flight log this morning, and since i was on here yesterday morning there is nothing in here but NWA NNE NNEM CARRY ON, and Pill spammers. Where's all the real helicopter people? Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 05:50:48 (MDT)
Fred A, Thanks for asking, my Brother is doing a bit better but has trouble breathing. The doctor told him to exercise by walking. He said he gets out of breath just walking in from the driveway to the kitchen. I think he has a better attitude about his situation now though. I believe he relalizes he's not going to get better right away that it will take some time and effort on his part. Whatsamatter your car? I hope you get it running ok. I had a problem with my bike that i thought was something drastic by the way it was acting, and it turned out to be a loose battery cable. Mark, I also hope your Father is doing better. Nothing like having your Dad around to talk to. Gently, i sent a msg off to Bud Rainey asking him to get on the flight log and tell us how he's doing, but if he doesn't turn his computer on he'll never see it. Well, i hope all the rest of the Hiss and Pissers are ok... Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 06:16:56 (MDT)
grrrrrr, new cam sensor didnt get rid of problem. check engine light still on, code 41 still on. wires look good. still will not start when engine at normal opp. tempt.going to junk yard today to try and get more stuff. Hope this finds the 129th family well. Mark, your dad doing better I hope? Robbie, hows your bro?
alvis
USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 05:52:27 (MDT)
Alvis. If it has the old style coil (round-with coil wire-positive and ground)as soon as it dies, pour cool water or any liquid on the coil for a few seconds then try to start it.If it does, change coil.
clifton
washington, nc USA - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 15:31:08 (MDT)
Hi again flight just wanted to let you all know that the meal for the 173d and 129th xmas party at the pop a top will be all you can eat fish, fries, and cole slaw. will let you all know the price later. again hotel is Holiday Express celina ohio 419 586 4919. I have blocked off only 15 rooms for now and can get more but i'll need you to let me know. thanks again and ron payne thanks for the email and can't wait to see you again. till kokomo all take care.
steven m spencer <spence00@bright.net>
elida, oh USA - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 15:08:09 (MDT)
Fred 431 is in Fl. last I heard they were getting it ready for inspection I haven't heard from since before the reunion. I recieved Pics nothing new. Judith I forgot about the tape from the wall we seen at the reunon. I will get a copy an send it. You poster commo reminded me. Sorry. flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 05:33:45 (MDT)
Anyone know what happened to the bird up in Maine those fellows were trying to sell?
alvis
USA - Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 04:35:12 (MDT)
Brother Mark,
Thinking of you and wishing you the best relative to your father. I was able to reach Sam about this time last week and he was absolutely great to talk with. Sam was very helpful and was a great resource. Thank you for putting me in touch with him. No word from Rucker yet (three months), not even a confirmation letter. Should get something soon.
Best to all the 129th ........hope you all are enjoying what is left of the summer.
Cheers!
Dave Wells <starssoftball@hotmail.com>
USA - Friday, August 22, 2003 at 22:05:01 (MDT)
J.W. great! I'll get the poster out ASAP. It's pretty cool! Use the email listed below for contacting me. Hope all is well with you.....and Jim W., I pray you're doing OK also. I am able to use your re-union photos as my screen-saver....so I get to see all of you everyday:>)))Where is that Tom Pederson???? Always here-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Friday, August 22, 2003 at 07:02:37 (MDT)
Hi Judith, I tried to e-mail you using e-mail on flight log and contact page. my address is on contact page. J.W.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 19:42:58 (MDT)
hi flight. have the address and phone number for the holiday express in celina ohio. room booking acct. is in the name airborne xmas party. rate is $60.00 plus tax. phone is 419 586 4919, address is 2020 Holiday Drive, Celina, Ohio Pool party should start at 1pm and go to around 4:30 byob. snacks will be on the herd. at 6 pm dec 6th we will head to the pop a top for a great dinner at a great price. bring a gag grift for the number of people who will be comming with you. santa will show up after the dinner. had a great time last year sharing our party with the 129th guys that showed up. sunday morning we all eat that is those who showed up. some drinkers could'nt make it right jackson. let me know if you plan on attending. head count for food. thanks all see in IND
steven m spencer <spence00@bright.net>
elida, oh USA - Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 12:46:25 (MDT)
Mark, read your post about your Dad. I sure hope he gets better, and can come home and hang out in the shop. I know as they get older the roles reverse, and we worry about them and take care of them as they did for us when we were unable to take care of ourselves. Lost my Dad in 86. No matter what made him realize it, I'm sure it's great to have him grab your hand and say that he Loves you. I envy you only for that. I hope he's around for a long time. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 06:05:46 (MDT)
Mark, I hope your dad gets better soon. I know what you are going thru. J.W.
J.W. Wilson
USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 22:36:03 (MDT)
Hey Rick I heard that. But the spammer dude needs help. Mark & Dee take of your dad- I know its rough. Hello Davy Powers. Bill Shilleto where are you. Hello Bernie H. Flight see if anyone recall sp/4 Yaroborough. E'nuff Said. 426 out!!!!
Bruno E Sanchez <bsanchez1@stx.rr.com>
Laredo, Tx USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 19:38:43 (MDT)
Judith I am not going to make Kokomo I am sure going to miss it. I will try and make it from now on just have to many things going on. Mark I am glad youn and your Dad had got that much closer. Keep in touch about your Dad.*********Bruno I don't have to go on sick call to get my extra 3 inches.HEHEHEHE FLIGHT BE CAREFUL OUT THERE
Rick England
USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 17:30:04 (MDT)
Mark and Dee...take care of of your dad. Do everything you can for him, so that if something does happen, you will not have any regrets, or feelings of guilt for not having been there for him. That goes for all of you, and for both parents. You need to be at peace when they're finally at peace. Rick E. sounds like you might be joining us in Kokomo!
Fred, make sure you go back to the memorials to check on other people having posted. Robbie..how's your brother coming along? J.W., was it you I promised the "We were Soldiers" poster to? I need your address if it was. otherwise I need to know who requested such while we were in Atlanta. That's it for now...love you all. Gently
Gently <jsinge@uwm.edu>
USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 07:29:29 (MDT)
hope this finds all well. Mark, hope your dad gets better fast.Shaking his hand was like getting your hand caught in a vise.He might be old but one can look at that man and see he is still tuff as nails.Your Mom must be going nuts, bless her heart.I hope he gets to come home soon,without the bells and whistles, smile. Rick,there are one or two places to fish around here. I caught one fish that was so big..the picture of it weighed 5 pounds. Hey Max, thats great about the wall. Both my room mates where kia...(60th ahc) and i have been looking for their familys for 30 years. have posted on the wall for them. well folks, talk at u later... arghhhhh... gotta go to jury duty today. best of luck to all, Mark, god bless.
fred alvis
USA - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 05:59:11 (MDT)
Hey Family.............hope all is well out there for all.......sure wish the puter docs would stay out of here.......thats disgusting........put my father in the hospital yesterday. Complete kidney failure, high heart rate, heart failure, high blood pressure, and then some. This all started Saterday night when he was in another hospital and the Doc called me and said that if we dont do something for pops that night that he would not be around in a couple of days. He just wanted to go back to the garage and die with his boots on in his office in his chair. He was trying to yank the tubes out of himself. I tried to talk him tinto going to the hospital in lima to start some treatment there. He refused. They said at that hospital saterday night that he needed to start dialysis imediatly. Pops said he just wanted to go. He sdaid the dame fools told him the same stuff 5 years ago. He said all he need was a quart of water and some crackers as if he just needed his oil and filter changed and he would do it himself. After argueing with him for an half hour and seeing him get madder and madder, I just said, OK Dad, I will respect your wishes. Ya see, my relationship with my pop is the best it has been in forty years since I dont work for him anymore and I am not going to spend the rest of our days together at each others throats like we used to........We took him back to the garage and got him settled in his cahir and made sure that he was comfortable. He just wanted to sleep there that night. He is the stuburnist, hard headed man I have ever known, but also the tuffest and smartest man I have ever known, and I love him.......Dee and I and the son-in-law, and daughter went over there Sunday to help him go to the bathroom. He had soiled himself already so we gave him a sponbge bath and changed his clothes. He felt better after that. We never said anything to him at that time about going in to start treatment............Monday my son-in-law, Bill, Thats works for dad. called me to see if I would come over and help dad go to the bathroom because he knew that pops had not been to the shit yet that day. Ya see, the man cant even get around by himself anymore....so I get there, and with all that is wrong with pops , he is somethimes way out in left field with his thinker. It took me awhile to get through to him that I was there to take him to the bathroom. After I got him there,and I noticed that he had soiled himserlf again, I started to clean him up and cahnged his clothes again. Not even thinking about even trying to get him to go to the hospital, the words " Pops, are you ready to go to the hospital now?" came out of my mouth. He looked at me and said. I guess so. I said are you sure?. You will have to be there for a while and take lots of tests and ride in an ambulance. He said I dont want no dame ambulance. I saus dad, you have to go that way and I will ride with you. he ok, but tell them not to ring the bells or blow the whisles. I said OK Pops. he us a very proud man...........anyways....we get to the hospital and the doc there tells us that he things through a change of events of many th9ings that pops just might be dehydreated andf my just need to have fluids to get his kidneys working again. was up there today and his kidneys are started to work a little bit but not up to par yet. Is going slow, but improving lil' by lil'. Pops looks a lil' better but, says he still doesnt feel good........I told him to not worry about the shop that Bill and I would keep it going. I felt his hand moving around on the bed and looked down and he was moving it until he found me hand and held it tight. That is the first time my dad has held my hand in 40 years. He also has told me that he loves me at least 5 or 6 times in the lasy 3 days. Another first in 40 years. pops always loved me, just did not know how to show it. Course my brother and sister, who have been no where to be found for a while have come swooping in like buzards. Probably to get their piece of the pie. I dont know................all I know is in the last 3 days I have cleaned my ole mans rearend 3 times and damb proud that I have. Not patting myself on the back here, just know and have felt and heard things from my father that the others will never know........the tuff WWII combat Marine of the Okinawa invasion of April 1st, 1945, is a softy. Just like me!!!!!!!....sure do love him....and pray that he gets better......just to get him in a hospital is a mirical. He has already been trown out of just about every Doc's office in the county because he tells them that they are all full of shit;-))))).....but as it turns out, he possibly my be right and just needs his oil and filters changed........Silly ole' Divil Daug!!!!!!!!!!!........well..you all take care......will not be able to make the Kokomo gig. The bay of the family gets married that weekend, As I stated in here before, if ya get a chance come over and help us celebrate. I will try and get the 129th flag to Ron Paye to bring to Kokomo...........I see our 173rd buddie "Spence" posted about their Christmas party at the Pop-A-Top Dec. 6th. if ya get a chance then, try and mnake it. Ron P and Fred A. were there last year. Looking forward to INDY next year./........Does anyboby have a land line on Tom Shanahan, or Randy Stark, ( Soothsayer and the Inn Keeper) of the 129th. Ed Thern of the 129th will be doing some traveling later and would like to visit them. They used to stop in here once in awhile...........I still have new names to add to the Roster and I am sorry to you guyts for not getting to that yet. I will, I promise............hang tight gang, day by day...........thanks for all that you do for Dee and I, and just plain thanks for being out there......I share the 129th and all of you with lots of vets and just plain folk that stop in the Pop-A-Top all the time........always a brother and sister.................Mark and Dee
Mark and Dee Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
LZ HOME, USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 19:34:06 (MDT)
Is this the web page for the 129th or is it sick call ?
Bruno E Sanchez <bsanchez1@stx.rr.com>
Laredo, Tx USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:09:32 (MDT)
Max, that's the importance of posting on the "virtualwall.org". How wonderful for all involved, and I hope that if you want to meet the family(I'm sure his sister-in-law will arrange that), you will. This is great....only if it heals. If I can help any further, let me know. With a smile-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 15:18:58 (MDT)
Fred and Gale thanks for the offer, but I am not going to make it to Kokomo this year we have to many things going on and I have to save some$$ for next year my wife is coming to the reunion in Indy. Happy Birthday to Fred and Debbie and many more. Harrell good to hear from you how's the fishing? Maybe we can have a fishing tournament at the reunion I might do better HEEEEEEEE. *********** This spam on here might be stopping some newbees from loggin in here at home. Well Flight be careful out there
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 07:29:38 (MDT)
GENTLY (and flight): It's weird that you just posted that about the Memorial Wall. I had put up a picture and short message about my friend Mike Walker, and this morning received an email from his sister-in-law, who saw them there. She's the first contact I've had about Mike, and I should be able to fill in some of the blanks about his death, and perhaps be put in contact with his family. Later, Max
Max Whittington
USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 07:16:53 (MDT)
hi guys well its getting that time of the year. the 173d would like to envite you all to our xmas party again at the pop a top dec 6th. last year we had a few join us and the meal was great. 8.00 each tip included all could eat. santa showed up and the band was great. if you plan on attending please let me know the holiday inn in celina has given us a rate of 60.00 plus tax. pool party starts around 1 PM meal at 6 pm. bring a 5.00 gag gift for male and female if both are comming. who knows what you'll leave with. see you all in IND sept. have a great day
steven m spencer <spence00@bright.net>
elida, oh USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 06:43:12 (MDT)
Rick, are you coming to Kokomo? Need a pickup from the airport? We have a real lumpy couch here if u need it.Not the best cooh here but I make a mean cup of soup.chuckling, you have a place here if u need it ,my friend.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 05:56:10 (MDT)
Well Flight, I have just finished writing memorials for all of our POW-MIA' and KIA's on the "VirtualWall." Please visit the www.virtualwall.org and add to them in the near future. I added the last ten or so, so it will take awhile for our friends Ken and Jim, who do this for us, to get them all on. And Don... I can't thank you enough for allowing them to use the photos off from you site. It' was such a generous thing to do. Don't be strangers to this memorial site, it's beautiful and very respectful.
Fred...53. What, do you want another card??!!:>))) Kokomo....1 month! Always-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 14:45:36 (MDT)
Subject: A Fire!!!!
WASHINGTON (Reuters) ---- A tragic fire on Monday
destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books have been lost. Presidential spokesman Ari Fleischer said the
president was devastated, as he had not finished
coloring the second one.
Willy Whonka
USA - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 10:57:45 (MDT)
Alvis. it's a good thing you have a woman there to add up them years for ya! ;o] Gale
Gale
USA - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 06:49:23 (MDT)
chuckling here over my oops. guess birthdays arent what they used to be. I turned 53, not 54. Fingers crossed for great weather on your first flight Jim. Blue skies to you buddy.Just dont hop on the radio and call for Nha Trang or Phu Cat tower.Whatch out for those fast movers. chuckling,. Dang sex peddlers that come in here are worse than going to the steam and cream across the river. Anyone have any ideas how to get ahold of gabby, the pilot?I cant remember his real name, but know he was from the Alexander area near D.C. Have a good week folks.
alvis
USA - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 05:30:57 (MDT)
Its a shame when screwballs turn a site into a garbage dump. Should be some way to stop the spammers. Haven't checked in for a while so I thought I would drop by and say hello to the adopted family. Hope everyone here is doing well. See you in Indy.
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 17:58:52 (MDT)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, DEBBIE AND A HAPPY DAY TO YOU GALE. SO FRED ALVIS DID YOU GET THAT HORSE,,,STILL GOT ONE FOR SALE,,,JUST KIDDING I KNOW HOW FUSTRATING IT CAN BE WHEN NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK CORRECTLY OR AT ALL..GETTING CLOSER TO THAT 1ST FLIGHT,,,2 SEPT. MAN AM I EXCITED. I'VE WORKED 14 DAYS STRAIGHT TO GET 4 WEEK DAYS AFTER LABOR DAY COMBINED WITH THE WEEKEND BEFORE AND AFTER 9 DAYS OFF AND DIDN'T USE ANY VAC DAYS. GENTLY I PROMISE AFTER THE TRIP I WILL HAVE A GOOD E-MAIL ADDRESS, I HOPE EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL.RICK BUDDY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY POSTINGS FROM YOU HOPE EVERYTHING IS OK,,,,,,ONE FOR ALL ALL FOR ONE JIM O
jim oliver
pembroke, ga USA - Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 11:02:50 (MDT)
Jim, Good to hear from you. Tell us what it is like living in Laos. What do you do for a living, family life, how safe it is to travel in Laos?
Dan Hertlein <dhertlein@comcast.net>
USA - Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 11:01:17 (MDT)
Greetings from Vientiane, Laos!
Returned to Asia 16 years ago. Have been here ever since. 11+ years in Laos alone.
Joe Johnson showed up last year.
By email, have been conversing with Max Whittington, reviewing the circumstances around Ed Wells' death on 23 April 1967.
All the best,
Jim (Michener)
October 1966 - October 1967
(slick pilot & assistant operations officer)
Jim Michener <james_michener@alum.swarthmore.edu>
Vientiane, Laos - Saturday, August 16, 2003 at 21:36:19 (MDT)
hmmm, bet there are a few underage family members that come in here.Wonder if its against the law for someone to suggest xxx sites to them?
alvis
USA - Saturday, August 16, 2003 at 10:05:10 (MDT)
hope all you guys are getting thru this blackout thing ok. thinking of you all down here in the sunny south. Keith 72-73
Ronald Keith Letson <onereb@bellsouth.net>
corinth, ms USA - Saturday, August 16, 2003 at 07:38:38 (MDT)
Very cute Carolyn! :o) Hope you guys are doing ok. Tell Lee hello and hope to see him at Pop A Top soon. Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, August 15, 2003 at 22:10:38 (MDT)
Well, I guess that last posting wasn't sure about what this group is all about! OH, maybe they checked out reunion pictures. Lee is busy working all the time but he does check in a little. Take care all and have a good weekend.
Carolyn Wood <cwood86700@aol>
dayton, oh USA - Friday, August 15, 2003 at 18:31:19 (MDT)
On some air bases the Air Force is on one side of the field and civilian
Aircraft use the other side of the field, with the control tower in the middle.
One day the tower received a call from an aircraft asking, "What time is it?"
The tower responded, "who is calling?"
The aircraft replied, "What difference does it make?"
The tower replied, "It makes a lot of difference. If you're an American Airlines flight, it is 3 o'clock. If you're an Air Force plane, it is 1500 hours. If you're a Navy aircraft, it is 6 bells. If you're a Marine Corps aircraft, the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 3. But if you're an Army aircraft, it's Thursday afternoon and 120 minutes to "Happy Hour!!!".
I just got back from vacation. Took a road trip. I managed to find Joe DePuglia "Sir Francis" up in Milpitas, Ca. Had a great time getting back together with him. Only took 30 years to find him again. Got lost after I left his place and drove all over the Bay area before I figgered out how lost I had gotten. Took 3 hours to make a 45 min drive. Damn, that's what happens when you don't have a VOR or ADF, huh?
KEEP ON GRINNIN'! "Scooter"
Larry Kwiatkowski <Chrger66@aol.com>
Simi Valley, CA USA - Friday, August 15, 2003 at 00:10:28 (MDT)
hello oh cant forget my brother rick who hwls carm ne down to as well as gently i just lose it at times take cate both of u
a brother always ray be safe
ray <stilwatimg@aol.com>
street , md USA - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 07:48:26 (MDT)
HEllo flight,,, Its good to see all is going well here. Rob Mow I rember you teling me that you were taking that week off, I love you to my brother, I Take the phaco;oligalo test tomorrow if you dont hear from me . I guess I didn't answer the ???? right just joking, i forget so much. Ron I heard you have neat bike with a neat paint job would mind sending mesome pic i got some nice ones from jim to his is nice to so if u have time can u send me a few pic thhanks
so how how is everyone doing. alex i get back to u
Gale still waiting om the pins to come in
OH Happy late birthday Debbie ,Alvis hope yours went well to. Gently I wish you and Joe The best , Hard to write here even harde to spel frght ;-) but hanging in there so you all take care and tkanks for all your help. see u all in indy a brother always Ray be safe
RAY GAGNER <srilwating@aol.com>
street , Md USA - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 07:43:53 (MDT)
Fred A. thanks for the kind words for my brother. How did things work out with your car or are you riding a horse now? I called Mark last night at the Pop A Top and he said there was just one guy in there, so we talked for awhile. He is doing good and Dee was out shopping with one of her kids. We're finally getting some dry days here after Rain, Rain, Rain. The PGA is in town and the first round is starting today at Oak Hill. Kodak is still laying more people off. My pass got me in the building this morning, so i guess i'm still here for awhile. Well, everyone have a good day.. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 06:15:38 (MDT)
happy birthday to debbie........thanks for the well wishes sent my way also. Wow, taking flight lessons..thats cool. Robbie... best to u and urs my friend, fingers crossed and prayers said for ur brother. Olliewood.... columbus is about 2 hours from coldwater, its north of Dayton.Pop a top is a great place with warm smiles.Rick, gonna miss u at Kokomo man, sitting in that chair, grinning and laughing.
alvis
USA - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 04:48:05 (MDT)
Gently, that was Bud Rainey we were trying to get on the computer.Still haven't heard from him. Glad to see you're back on here. Maybe i'll give Bud a call and tell him to log on and send us a note. I'm ok, my brother is improving but slowly. The doctor says they will probably operate on him to take the tumor out in September. The doctor told him to quit taking all of the pills he gave him because they were making him sick. My Sister was up from Jacksonville last week and she helped me get new furniture and drapes and such. I had the same drapes and used furniture that i had when i moved in there 9 years ago. You know how us bachelors are. Have another beer and things don't look bad at all. Well, hope all the Hiss and Pissers are ok. Ray Gagner, i love you man. Hang in there and I'll keep in touch with you. Rob
Robbie
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 15:27:30 (MDT)
Flight: Well it's good to read the commo. And everyone is getting back to normal. Dan glad to see you back. Hope you can make Indy! Ray Gagner sorry I haven't wrote or called but, been busy with the house and work. still thinking of Atlanta. It was great having the opportunity of meeting all the new Brothers and sisters along with our old friends and Brothers and sisters of the 129th. OH! our 129th Cowboy from Utah Glenn Pearmain wrote and possilble wedding in the future. He has met a wonderful woman from Wyoming. Max hope you can make Indy!! Would be nice to see you. Jim Oliver glad to see you back have a safe flight!! Gently, glad to have you back also. Your like the glue holding everything together. Thanks!! Mark and Dee rest up my Brother and Sister Indy is close next year. Fred and Ron doesn't have a good reason to miss this one. Well need to clear left and get out. Don't get here enough, but, always thinging of all of you. May god bless all of you!!! Alex
Alex <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Collieville, Tn USA - Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 14:58:39 (MDT)
Funny, funny Gale:>///. I'm going to take pictures of you at Kokomo and send them to Ron Paye for editing! Olliewood, I need your email addy. Please don't give it to Gale-he dolls up photographs and then sends them out to everyone. He and Ron Paye-very sick friends of mine, very sick. I'm glad you're back with us and have a computer up and running. It's been hard not talking to you since Atlanta. Remember to call Robbie if you have any problems:>))) Right Robbie! Got the word from Rick E. that he can't make Kokomo....Damn! Don, how about the photo of our soldier and 129ner, Mr. Walton for the "virtualwall"? Always there-Gently
Gently <Jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 11:38:30 (MDT)
Jim, thanks for asking. Debbie's doing fine & says Hi. She has a birthday coming up on Sunday,Aug 17th. The flight sounds exciting for you and we are happy for you. Be sure to let us all know how it goes. As far as Gently goes.......mmmmmmmm...well, let me think......hmmmmmmm...uh......well....mmmmm......yeah, I'll second that Jim!!!!!!! Just don't ask her to take your picture ;o] !!! Gale
Gale
USA - Wednesday, August 13, 2003 at 06:36:51 (MDT)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRED,,,HEY GALE HOW ARE YOU AND YOUR LOVELY OTHER HALF DOING....RAY TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, BROTHER THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT HERE WHO LOVE YA MAN,,,OH BY THE WAY HAVE YA SEEN ANY GOOD WALKING STICKS....MY PUTER IS STILL A LITTLE MESSED UP BUT OVER THE LABOR DAY I WILL BE VISITING MY SON FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS THEN OFF TO MY SISTER'S PLACE CLOSE TO COLUMBUS OHIO FOR MY FIRST FLIGHT LESSON ON THE 2 SEP,,,MAN AM I EXCITED...I'VE DREAMED ALL MY LIFE FOR THIS AND NOW WITH THIS NEW RATING LOOKS LIKE I MAY FINIALLY GET TO SEE MY DREAM OF FLIGHT,,,ME AT THE CONTROL AND NOT IN THE PEANUT GALLERY...GENTLY,,,GOD PLACES SPECIAL PEOPLE AMONG US,,,,I BELIEVE IN ALL MY HEART YOU'RE ONE OF THEM,,,YOU AND JOE TAKE CARE,,,,OLLIEWOOD
jim
pembroke, ga USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 23:24:12 (MDT)
Fred Alvis, HAPPY BIRTHDAY BROTHER!!! I hope you had a great day.....and better luck. If I know Kal, he'll be at Kokomo!! Coldwater is only a couple hours drive from there!? Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 21:03:36 (MDT)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRED ALVIS.....know what you mean about faster time, although i am just a young guy at 51. A old guy once told me that an old car always runs faster down hill though. laughing here.,...Keith 72-73.
Ronald Keith Letson <onereb@bellsouth.net>
corinth, ms USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 17:05:37 (MDT)
HELLO TO ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. FRED ALVIS HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. I WISH BETTER LUCK THIS YEAR , I LIKE TO GO TO KOCOMO. BUT SAVING TO FOR INDY I HOPE TO MEET YOU AND YOUR WIFE THERE AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS. BUT WE ARE GOING FOR SURE. IAM SO GALD WE WENT TO ATLANTS,,IT HELPED ME A LOT. AT TIMES I LOSE IT AS SOME MAY HAVE SEEN BUT I COME BACK.. I FEEL GOOD TODAY I READ LOG EVERY DAY, FOR I KNOW I HAVE FRIENS HERE, IAM STILL WAITING ON THE PINS I PROMISED SOME OF YOU I HAVEN'T FOR GOTTEN. WELL YOU ALL TAKE CARE, AND ALVIS I HOPE YOUR BIRTHDAY WENT WELL, AND MAY GOOD LUCK FOLLOW YOU
A BROTHER ALWAYS
BE SAFE
RAY
RAY <STILWATING@AOL.COM>
STRET, MD USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 17:03:29 (MDT)
Fred!!!! Happy Birthday to you....a very dear friend!!! I'll buy you a coffee at Kokomo! Always there-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 15:34:12 (MDT)
hey kal, u gotta make it man. Hope this year its not tornadoes and rain.We are the only helicopter unit there, whats the grunts gonna do without us?Whose gonne judge the people wealking by? whos gonna fly the kites?Rick, we know who cleared the camp site for a few minutes. chuckling here.Besides, I want Susan to meet u guys and u her.( and ladies)Thinks we might have to make a run to cold water, isnt that far from the big K. Today , I am 54. Sure doesnt seem like that much time has passed. Old man once told me that nothing changes as u get older, but time just passes by faster. best wishes to all, fred
alvis
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 15:02:12 (MDT)
Great coffee stories-glad you remember the stories-hope you don't remember the tastes! I wish you guys could comew up wioth soime names: I came up woith "Huey High", Jungle Java, Mekong Mud, Danang Dew, Infantry Green....get the picture. Surely you guys can do better than I! Great Fonda joke, Fred. Great! Dan, thank you. Alex and Liz, again, thank you. Max, your sister will be in my prayers(damn HMO's). It's so hard to comprehend that these insurance companies have no qualms about how they conduct their money makling business. How can anybody be so cold hearted.
Kokomo is on the agenda for Joe and I. Ron, the turkey chef, is going to have the trucks park on the street this year so we have more room at the camp site. I talked to Kal yesterday and he may not make it, lots of work to do. But, we all know Kal-he's full of surprises. Katherine's coming!!! Patriot-I believe I know who you are, and it's very unlike you to hide. We're not reading your stuff, so don't bother any more. To the rest of you-my love. Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 11:32:37 (MDT)
You forgot the 8th one...........trying to be "The Patriot" where you are not welcome!!!!
Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 10:33:36 (MDT)
You forgot the 8th one...........trying to be "The Patriot" without where you are not welcome!!!!
Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 10:33:04 (MDT)
"There are seven sins in the world::::::: Wealth without
work,,,,,,, Pleasure without conscience,,,,,,, Knowledge without
character,,,,,,,, Commerce without morality,,,,,,,, Science without
humanity,,,,,,,,,, Worship without sacrifice and politics
without principle........." --------- Mahatma Gandhi
The Patriot
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 08:47:43 (MDT)
Hi everyone. www.virtualwall.org is looking for a photo of William Dunlap. I believe we have one on Don's 129th POW-MIa-KIA site. Don, can you email such to them? They can scan from an email or scan from a photo. Ken Davis, co-cordinator of the site, is the gentleman asking for such. He's a wondeful man who volunteers all of his time to the virtualwall. Do not mix this site up with "thevirtualwall," though a photo could be scanned for that site also. If any others have a photo of our William Dunlap, please let me know. Alwasy there for our Verterans-Gently
Gentl <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 08:45:16 (MDT)
"There are seven sins in the world:::: Wealth without
work,,,,,, Pleasure without conscience,,,,, Knowledge without
character,,,,,, Commerce without morality,,,,,, Science without
humanity,,,,,,, Worship without sacrifice and politics
without principle........."------- Mahatma Gandhi
The Patriot
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 08:45:06 (MDT)
Dan, hope you get feelin better soon. Like they say.."when it rains, it pours". Just ask alvis. He's had a run of bad luck. Hope things are better over your way alvis. Ray, hang in there buddy!!! Gale
Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 07:08:40 (MDT)
Sory to hear your run of luck Dan. Hope things are turning around for you.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 04:34:35 (MDT)
Back on line again and just checking in. Gently, I am sorry to hear about your Dad! My prayers are with you. Recently got rid of AOL and the computer crashed. That was just the beginning of the "not-so-good-luck" I have been having lately. Totaled my car first day of vacation and injured my back. Been off work and on pain meds and muscle relaxers. Can't sit, stand or lay down for very long. Sleep only an hour at a time, three to four hours a day. Wonderful HMO. They won't even take a back x-ray.. just wait it out and the pain will go away soon.. in a week or two. The next day the motor went out on the dryer, two days later the microwave oven turned into an arc-welder. But then, things could be worse. If my savings account recovers, I am looking forward to being at the next reunion!
Dan Hertlein <dhertlein@comcast.net>
Sumner, WA USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 03:38:23 (MDT)
hang in there Ray
alvis
USA - Monday, August 11, 2003 at 17:05:48 (MDT)
HELLO FLIGHT,,, DOING MUCH BETTER TODAY CALLED THE VET CENTER HE TALKED TO ME ,TKANKS ALL
SORRY A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
RAY <STILWATING@AOL.COM>
STREET , MD USA - Monday, August 11, 2003 at 14:12:15 (MDT)
HELLO FLIGHT.... GOOD ONE ALVIS... WINTER NOT FAR OFF I DON'T CARE MUCH FOR THE SNOW OR COLD ,,BUT GOT A FEELING GOING TO HAVE A BAD ONE HERE IN MD I YOU MAY TO I BELIVE YOU LIVE YOU GETS LOTS ANY WAY DON'Y YOU.. BARRY W SOO GOOD TALKING TO YOU FRIDAY. IAM STILL WOUND UP ANC I CAN FEEL MY BLOOD FLOWING THREW ME LIKE A TRAIN. THANKS BUD FOR THE EAR
AND YOU TO GENTLY BUT STILL FEEL LIKE BOTTOM IS GOING TO DROP OUT FROM UNDER ME AT ANY TIME. AND SHAKE REAL BAD AND WALK BAD. AGAIN EVEN STUDER SOME NOW AND NOT SURE WHY WELL I JUST CAME TO SAY HI I GUESS GOT CARRIED AWAF SORRY
A BROTHER ALWAYS THANKS FOR EAR
RAY
RAY <STILWATING#AOL.COM>
STREET , MD USA - Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 15:31:54 (MDT)
so thats what happened to my hair, hmmm. Now, if I can just figure out what happened to my school boy figure. Sorry judith, cant think of any cool names for the grog. Winters around the corner. I work at Lowes Home center. This week we recieved ... heaters and snow blowers, their going out on the floor next week. Anyone know the diference betwen Bill Clinton, Dan Quail and Jane Fonda?... Jane went to Vietnam.
alvis
USA - Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 05:18:27 (MDT)
COFFEE: Worst I ever had was one night when I was NCOIC in the field company headquarters tent in Kontum (?). Cook had sent over a big pot, but it kept getting worse and worse, all night long. It wasn't until my stomach was all cramped up that I realized that the horrible taste wasn't the coffee, itself, but the taste from the eraser on the end of the pencil I had been stirring my sugar in with. DON'T EVER DO THAT! Kinda funny story from the night I was NCOIC: I was monitoring the radio calls from the troops we were supporting (I think the 101st), and one company got hit about midnight. They were calling to their headquarters, asking for ammo and medivacs. I kept trying to contact battalion (?) on one of those screwy crank radios, but couldn't get a response. I finally couldn't stand it any longer, so sent my runner to wake up the flight for an ASAP mission. Shortly afterwards, a jeep came screeching up, and the CO came rushing into the tent, screaming his head off and threatening to courts martial me for sleeping on duty and not answering the phone. I told him the problem, and said the sound he heard in the background was our choppers running up, and that a couple were already over at the ammo dump. After checking the phone, he apologized profusely, and said he'd have a letter of commendation put in my file. (Don't know if he ever did.) Later, Max
Max
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 12:27:57 (MDT)
Dennis: I can certainly relate to your experience. I bitched about the the health care at the VA for two years, then I finally got a primary care doc, and things have run smoothly ever since. All I have to do is leave a message for her, and things start happening. She even schedules me for things I didn't think of, such as a dietician consult, and a physical therapist when I injured my back. Xrays and MRIs are done almost immediately, when called for. Sometimes the intern or student doctors (Portland is a 'teaching' hospital, attached to the med school) get a bit flustered, but the nurses usually keep them straight. A couple of years ago, I had a very painful systoscope exam of my bladder; afterwards, the nurse said to the doc, "You might try using the lubricant, next time." My sister and BIL have been paying big bucks to their HMO for years. Two weeks ago my sister was diagnosed by her doc and a radiologist with lung cancer, and, even though it was declared an *emergency*, she can't get in for a biopsy to find out which type it is until the 22nd of this month, and the bastiges originally tried to schedule it for mid-September. Later, Max.
Max
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 12:04:39 (MDT)
j (?), of course ....Jim the "Stickster". Good to hear from you buddy. Alvis, I'll be at Kokomo, but, how 'bout leaving your horse at home!? We hardly have room at the campsite now.;o} I don't know when Rick is getting back from Penn ,but, I hope he can make it to K. Last time I talked to Kal he was planning on it and of course Judith & Joe, Ron...anyone else out there?? Gale
Gale
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 09:17:45 (MDT)
Fred. I'm going out on a limb here, but have you tried the coil? Next time it quits place a wet cloth on the coil and let it cool for a while then try to start it.
Clifton
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 07:14:30 (MDT)
Gale I always pulled guard duty at the bunkers either side of the main gate. thats before they built us the towers. The OD and Sgt. of the guard worried more about the coffee mugs from the mess hall then what the coffee would taste like. The coffee would open anyone's eyes right fast. But, you can tell the coffee drinkers now. We down have much hair left!! HA! HA! killed roots.but, cames in handy on the cool nights around Dec. 67. You all take care. Alex
Alex
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 07:13:15 (MDT)
i am about to go back to riding horses, this car is killing me. Spoeaking of ultralights, thats what its doing to my wallet, making it ultralight
alvis
USA - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 06:51:24 (MDT)
Gale, I can relate to the taste of the coffee. I remember walking out to the flightline during the monsoons drinking a canteen cup full from the cook tent. Rainer
Rainer Bauer <bauerrv@aol.com>
Indy, USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 22:29:22 (MDT)
HEY FRED ALVIS,,,BROTHER I GOT A FINE 5YR OLD QUARTER HORSE FOR SALE,,,,THEN I CAN PUT A RUNWAY IN THE BACK 40 FOR ULTRALITES,,,,,YES
OLLIEWOOD
P, USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 17:40:05 (MDT)
thanks for all the ideas and input. will post what it is when i find out. gently, welcome back Who all wants to try and make it to Kokomo? its sept 19,20 and 21.
alvis
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 17:10:38 (MDT)
HEY GALE,,,THE (?)ITS JIMMY AKA STICKS,,,,OLLIEWOOD THE GUY WITH THE ULTIMATE CREWCHIEF'S WALKING STICK,,YEAH THAT'S ME JUST TRYING TO STATY IN THE BACKGROUND TILL I GET THIS PUTER SET UP RIGHT,,,,STILL ABLE TO READ AND ALL OK IT'S JUST A INTERNET ADDR. PROBLEM I'LL FIX WHENEVER,,,,DON WILL BE SENDING YOUR YBOOK BACK NEXT WEEK,,I'M MISSSING OUT OF THAT ONE ALSO,,,OH WELL ONLY THE SHADOW KNOWS,,,HEHE HE HE RICK 431 FT CAMPBELL, KY 1ST FLT PLT. DCO 101ST AVN. BN 101ST FT CAMPBELL,,,CIRCA 1978 CHECK IT OUT,,,,,,OLLIE
j
p, USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 17:00:33 (MDT)
They're great...keep 'em coming! with smiles, Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:38:29 (MDT)
j (?), I remember those cool monsoon nights on guard duty when it got down to a freezing 60 degrees. The Sgt of the Guard would bring those food canisters around with hot coffee......I never new anything so bad could taste so good!! Gale
Gale
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 12:04:37 (MDT)
Fred: Been with the zone 22 years. Very seldom have a bad fuel pump. that why I have customer bring in thier old parts to check. Most of the time it's something different. The Zone can check the control module and the coil. If they have somebody in the store that knows what their doing. Unless you have a distributorless ignition. Then you get to crankshaft sensor. Don't know about the Zone up there but, here I am the most mechanical and if I am not there your shit out of luck. lord knows what you might end with. But, hopefully you'll get the car running. Judith Liz and have both been busy with work. But, You and your family are still in our thoughts and prayers, and glad to see you back on line. Mark and Dee good hearing from you all also, give the bride to be a hug from us and our best wishes for the future. Well flight take care. Alex
Alex
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 11:41:29 (MDT)
HOT DANG, GALE I LIKE IT, THE KIND YOU HAVE TO STRAIN THRU A GI SOCK AND DRINK FROM A METAL CONTAINER TO GET THE TRUE TASTE AND AROMA,,,,AH THE MEMORIES
j
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 11:36:00 (MDT)
How about "Cobra Venom" & "Bulldog Piss" (excuse me...."urine") ? ;o]]
Gale
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 10:34:35 (MDT)
Gently, how about "Rotor Wash"?
Dave Powers
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 07:25:55 (MDT)
My flight friends...thank you for being there for me in my time of sadness. Every day gets better and better. Dan, the flowers are still alive and kicking, Ray the plant flourishes with every sun rise, and C.P, thanks for starting the Christmas fund. All the emails gave me strength, and the cards will be kept in a special place. I cherish each and every one of you. Now, I do need a favor: Our VVA Chapter is going to sell coffee as our fund raiser this year, and I need help coming up with names to call it. I need fun names like Mekong Mud, Huey High, Jungle Green, get the idea. So play around with the ideas that come into your head and help me out. Speaking of improvements at the VA's: one of my friends went in yesterday and was seen and had blood work done immediately! So, yes, things might be looking up. My friends, Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 06:54:51 (MDT)
Evening Flight!! As I have just returned from my reintroduction to the V.A.Medical System, I believe some postive thoughts are needed. First, one must remember that I have been rated 100% P&T since 1979, so that makes me some what of a lifer in thier system. However, today was a total reversal from the last time I turned to the medical system for help. The Primary Care Dr.(also a Cardiologist)started right in with his assesment of what my health care needs are and should be. By the time he was done, I was convinced that my previous Dr's for which my wife paid unspeakable amount of insurance premiums for, were just definitly doing only the HMO game. When I left the VA Healthcare Ctr in Orlando, I had all of my shots brought up to date, bloodwork done, medications ordered, and further Cardiac Testing arranged for.
So, as others have said, the System is a tuff nut to crack, but once done, they will take care of you. So once again my faith in the VA has been Restored.
IN CLOSING I WIIL URGE EVERY MEMBER OF THIS AVIATION COMPANY TO CONTACT YOUR ELECTED MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE MAKE THEM SUPPORT FULL FUNDING FOR THE VA MEDICAL SYSTEM. IF YOU NEED HELP CONTACT ANY SERVICE ORGANIZATION
"NUFF SAID"
Dennis
Dennis Fuerstenau <dpf092003@yahoo.com>
Davenport, FL USA - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 18:57:25 (MDT)
Hi flight, Fred I talked to a friend who retired from a G.M. dearship and he said sometimes he has seen that problem . He said you mighy have to change the coil and module. He said to take it to a place where they have a machine to check distributor and leave it on so it will be as hot as if you had been driving it. He had seen cars that ran for awhile and quit , would not crank unyill they cooled off. J.W. Wilson
J.W. Wilson <kas3@ncfreedom>
USA - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 11:34:40 (MDT)
yep, it is a facet pump. Now that I have shot my big mouth off, it seems the pump isnt the problem. I went to tow the car home and it started. Seems it starts when its at " cold start conditions". I now can drive anywhere, but must wait for car to completely cool off. it just wont start warm... starting to pull what little hair i have left, out. Not even sure where tostart looking to solve this problem.
alvis
USA - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 04:52:12 (MDT)
If the pumps are made by Facet, I can understand the problem. I use 12V pumps on octane knock engines for fuel supply and had nothing but trouble with Facet brand. Finally switched to Walbro and problems stopped. Other pumps were shorting out. Changed 2 in a day at times.
Harrell Guidry
Groves, Tx USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 19:21:19 (MDT)
yep, engine check light came on some time after new pump was installed.... remember, i put only about 5 miles on it b4 it quit. I had zone check out light, said it was netural safty switch, nothing big. thats when my car wouldnt start again. I have been told by several people that the zone has ben having some real problems with the quality of the pumps. One fellow says 1 in five went bad on him.when zone stoped paying labor charges, he switched to another brand (for pumps only)I truely believe its a bad pump. when i get the car home again , we will see. take care all , fred.
alvis
USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 15:45:01 (MDT)
...Hey 129th gang.....hows it going . All is well here. Summer is winding down so I hope to be in here more often. Just coming in today to tell you that David the web master put up some pix of the Atlanta gig on the bottm of the 1st page. They are from jim Westwang and Ray Gagner. Sorry it took so long. The webby is busy with the new baby....take care all..we are hangin' in there....I promise I will spend more time here in the near future. Just have to get Stephie married off in Sept then things should slow down...BTW....Syephe's wedding is the same weekend of Kokomo..........I forgot about that.......but if any of you are in the area, stop in that weekend........always a brother and sister. Mark and Dee
Mark & Dee Jackson
LZ HOME, USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 14:31:35 (MDT)
Fred: Don't just buying parts!! If you know someone at the Zone. They can get the codes from the computer for you free. If the don't know how the call me at stre 0020 here in Memphis. Working today until close and open tomorrow. Don Miller if you read the log give me a call tonight at the store. Alex
Alex
USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 08:36:10 (MDT)
Fred: Is your Check engine light on? if so then the throttle position sensor or map sensor(mass air flow sensor) is bad. Thats if it runs in park or neutral but,wants to shut down in drive. Or even a vaccum leak in a hose or gasket. You should have a purge value on the fuel rail to let the air out of the fuel system. Open a book at the Zone and has trouble shooting in the 1st section. Bruno you are thinking of the Ford which has the shut off switch in the trunk for the cars and passenger side under the dash for the trucks. Take care all.Alex
Alex
USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 08:30:07 (MDT)
thanks for the input Alex. smile,as a matter of fact i bought my pump from the zone in brownsburg indiana,. therewasnt any pump noise (click) when i installed the new pump and turned on the ignition, but the car started..I figured perhaps they had gotten past that noise( clicks) Yep, i put on a new strainer so i could get the warrenty. nope, i didnt put a new in linbe filkter on but will this time, as they are only 6 bucks and i must take one end loose anyway. Car ran fine for about 5 miles. the car is again parked in front of auto zone,..i was checking on some other parts.The car will start with either, but dies as soon as either runs out.( starting fluid) now, the following is a e mail i reciever from spence.. a fellow with the 73rd airborne..."they make pop a top"their home also. Ron and i both went last year...bo his. xmas party is dec 6th. room rates are 60.00 at the holiday inn
celina ohio, will let you know more details. how about spreading the word to
the 129th guys, sure would like to see more there this year. room booking
are under airborne xmas party for this rate. great to here from you was with
mark today. sure looks good since he quit drinking. see ya
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alvis
USA - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 15:05:25 (MDT)
Fred, There is also a "circuit Breaker" Thingamagig for safety purpose . Mostly somewhere back in the trunk. Check it out it might be that the breaker keeps getting thrown. You should be able to hear the pump kick in to pressurized the system. 426 otta here.
Bruno E Sanchez <bsanchez1@stx.rr.com>
Laredo, Tx USA - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 15:02:11 (MDT)
Flight: Off work today. But had to get an ingrown toe nail removed. Lot of fun. Fred can you hear the fuel pump kick in when you first turn the key? There is a fuel pump RELAY under the hood and some model gm's also have a FUSE for the fuel pump. Have you changed the fuel filter? Are you getting a good blue spark to your plugs? If getting good spark to the plugs then we can rule out the bad control module or pick-up coil. You can hook to jumper wires from a 12 volt battery to the fuel pump wireing to see if the fuel pump kicks in. Oh! did you get a new pump strainer when you got your pump! Hope this will help you. Well hope the rest of you are doing ok!! Got to prop this foot up. Alex
Alex Fernwalt <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Collierville, TN USA - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 10:48:14 (MDT)
Jesus Fred, have you thought about seeing a shaman or medicine man or something?? If it weren't for bad luck, you wouldn't have any at all. My heart is with you bud>>> Jim
Jim Westwang <westwang@bresnan.net>
sheridan, Wy. USA - Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 22:52:21 (MDT)
"The pump don't work, cause the vandels took the handles" Bob Dylon
Animal
Puna, HI USA - Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 21:53:18 (MDT)
put a fuel pump in my car yesterday (in tank, electric). it went out today.Seems to me they should last more than 1 day. Any suggestions out there? oh, its a 91 bonneville
alvis
USA - Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 20:51:28 (MDT)
ducati, now there is a name from my high school days. For the times, it was a fine bike. Triumphs were so cool too, and look out for those Nortons,very fast for the times. hey... i am dropping aol as my server and going to wall mart. aol cost me 30 bucks a month ,,, wall mart is 10 and i will get rid of some spam that seems to bomb me every day.Jeeze, karma is still killing me..last 2 days off..first day have to rush new step daughter to hospital( she is ok now), second day, drove to auto zone to but tire plug kit,darn electric fuel pump ( in gas tank) decides to go out.Sue was working so had a nice 3 mile walk home.chuckling here, look out, have this week end off.Place is crazy here as the brickyard 400 is sunday, 300 thousand people in town to see it.I live very close to the track.Usually i leave town for the weekend.all take care, we want to see and hear from u.
alvis
USA - Friday, August 01, 2003 at 23:04:10 (MDT)
Hello flight. Like Alvis, the trolls who post here don't bother me all that much, though I log on each day to check out what's happening. They're kind of like gnats to me: annoyances that can be fairly easily ignored. After all, they're just bits and bytes and photons on my monitor, not something I really have to deal with. The weather here in Portland, Oregon has been fantastic: hot and dry. My back has finally healed enough that I can now get back to setting fence posts on my new place; once the fence is up, there's a larger workshop/shed to build, a porch to replace, sprinklers to install, (mobile) home to paint — I'm tired already, just writing about it! I finally got my boat moved over here, and hope to get out soon for a few days and terrorize some trout and kokanee. All this talk about bikes had me drooling, and pulling out my old pics of me and my Ducati; but three accidents within one year probably means I shouldn't get another one — besides, I hate helmets, and Oregon requires them (and the weather here sucks for riding for at least half of the year). I just got an email from Jim Michener this morning; he's still living in Laos, and recently made contact with Ed Well's sister — he was able to provide her with a bit of info about Ed's death (KIA 4/23/67 in chopper crash — same one that killed Mike Walker). Well, the sun's up now, so I better go tote a few bags of cement. Bite and Strike!
Max Whittington
USA - Friday, August 01, 2003 at 07:28:08 (MDT)
hi Ray and all. Sorry Ray, you were misinformed,I havevnt a bike. Sold mine in the mid 80's. Those two fellas that write in here dont make me mad. Its moer of an intresuion into my place of tranquilty. Kinda like a car passing by with a loud base,the noise soon goes away. yes, I enjoy this place, listening to what others say, reading some very informed and well written responses. ( wish i could write as well as some) Dont know why anyone would threaten Mark, hes a heck of a nice guy without a mean bone in his body. Perhaps it is just to get a response in here, who knows. looking forward to Kokomo.the camp fires , the friend ships,the atmosphere , the brotherhood. Look into the night,up thru the smoke, vast darkness with stars so clear.One can almost see our fallen brothers smiling down.Quiet moments , thoughts turned inward, hearing the brotherhood and laughter from far off camps. dang, time to go to work..all have a great weekend.
alvis
USA - Friday, August 01, 2003 at 04:39:47 (MDT)