EVENING FLIGHT,HAVEN'T POSTED IN A WHILE,HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TO WRITR ABOUT. BUT IV'E BEEN READING THE POSTINGS. HEY DON I SEE YOU WERE ASSIGNED TOO 010,I WAS ASSIGNED AS A GUNNER TO 010 WITH KENT JONES AS CREWCHIEF. THE SHADDOW, 7/69-10/70.WHAT SAY YOU? MARK GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU AN THE POP N TOP IS DOING FIND.WISH I LIVED CLOSER SO I COULDGET TO THE POP N TOP SO I COULD UP MORE OFTEN SO I COULD BUST YOUR CHOPS MORE,HA,HA,HA,HA,.DID YOU LET THE FLIGHT KNOW ABOUT THE DANCING GIRLS YOU HAD AT THE POP N TOP THE DAYS I WAS THERE.I BET NOT. OH MARK I'M GOING TO NEED YOUR HOME ADDRESS SO I CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF THE POEM I WROTE,OK.SAY HI TO DEE FOR ME . HEY PREZZ WHAZZ HAPPINING BUSINESS AS USUAL I BET. ROBBIE GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. RICK HOWS IT GOING WITH THE V.A. HEY CUPS IV'E BEEN USING THE ALOW FROM THE PLANT IN MY YARD YOU TOLD ME ABOUT. WORKING GREAT ON THE SKIN CANCER ON MY FOREHEAD. THANKS AGAIN.TOO ALL MY BEST AN TOO ALL A MERRY EVENING. FROM 010 WITH LOVE WINK 3/69-10/70
BARRY WINKLER <COBRA129TH@AOL.COM>
LAKELAND, FL 33801 - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 21:02:03 (MDT)
..........yo hooooooooooo.........golla ge wizz.........lookie here....it's me in here......and now I am gonna give ya all a bunch of excuses why I havent been here in a spell....................but first things first........we have 129th brother that is goin' through some VA crap paper work right now that needs some of our help....Ray Gagner, e-mail can be found in the CONTACTS section.........he was suppose to be the DG on the "257" the night it went down, so I have a personal interest in this one and am askin' all who can come to the rescue( of course I have a personal interest in all of you).......he needs, what the VA calls, "BUDDY LETTERS" to help him in his mission to draw the benifits from the Gov.!!!!.persally, I am not sure of how to write such a letter....but deeply in my heart want to help Ray..........can those who have writtin' such a letter, and those that know Ray from the Nam, write one, and then send me a copy so I can do so also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................I am so sorry that I have not been here for so long......but do get calls from some of you at times that revive me. Freddie!!!!>>>>Rick E.........and all the commo in the FLIGHT LOG BOOK always puts JP4 in my tank!!!!!!! ............excuse #1...........Grandkids:-))))))))))))))...tryin' to spend as much time with them as I can this summer.........hope it is not the last I can. Am healty......but shit....who knows....here one month, gone the next sometimes!!!!!!!!! //.........#2........the POP-A-TOP............my dearst beloved friends..........in my wildest dreams did I ever think that the idea of a VETS bar and grill would get it's skids off the ground so fast and so high that the POP-A-TOP has........the numbers that stop in just keep growin' and growin'............for instance.....today......for lunch......from 11:00AM til 1:00PM....we served 96 people today...........outstanding, concidering the small burg that we live in and the other resteruants that are here also................the plans in the future are to expand the joint and possibly start another one in a near by town also........I never dreamed it would turn into what it has.........and anybody that runs their own bizz, knows what it takes to make it work......"TIME SPENT THERE"!!!!!!!!!!!!.....thus.....it has cut into my time to be here with you all......I am sorry about that..........to be the starter of the 129th page, and to be here so lil', does not make me feel very good......I know you all will excuse me.......but I do feel responseable for it all......and NO...I still cant spell that well either yet;-)))))............. Excuse # 3......the insurance CO amd the loss of the "257".........GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ....been dilly dallyin' round with those crooks for a month on the phone and paper work......bottom line there is......lost a $22,000 Harley, the "257".....and am gettin paid from the insurance CO. as if they want me to get a new MOPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bottm line from them is $13,500......heart breaking.........but did settle up with them this week and have to go and borrow money to get a 2003 model like the 98 model dressed like she was.................bummer.....but the best we could do...............but...the "257" will fly again...................BAStards................Who ever bought me the "RIDE LIKE YOU STOLE IT" t/shirt in Phoenix???........it sure has brought lots of laughs back here at home...........Debbie???.was that you.......Or Jammie......or Shirley.........sorry I can not recall which of you got it for me...please do not be offended by that.......got a bad case of CRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............poor sight for a person I am!!!!!!!!!!!.......just to let you all know........a day, or a night does not go by, where I do not talk to somebody about the 129th, or Larry, and all of you and how wnoderful all of you our.........from the bottom of my heart...........I love you all, and I ask that you except me for the less to you that I am.........I know where my FREEDOM comes from..........and the love, and the warmth that I feel in my heart.............it all comes from you.....forever and ever................I am your devoted brother, and Dee your sister, Mark and Dee
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
LZ POP-A-TOP, USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 19:23:25 (MDT)
JOE JOHNSON Got the package my brother. Am in contact with the service officer I was telling you about. Thanks so much for sending the information. Was great talking to ya the other day. Hope you have an awesome time in Thailand, again....keep in touch..
Don Johnson <Cobra_010@hotmail.com>
Oklahoma City, OK USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 12:44:07 (MDT)
No Jamie, I love the smaller patch. I don't think it would look as good with the larger patch on it. I just had it in my mind that it would be as big as the one i have already, and i like the smaller one better. I figure i will spill something on it before too long, so that's why i'm thinking about getting another one. I also need to stop at walmart and get one of those throws. Thanks again Jamie, i really like the shirt. Rob.
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 12:10:55 (MDT)
Hi Robbie - glad your shirt arrived safely. About the size of the patch? I can have it done in any size you want. But - if you want it to cover the center front of the shirt, you'd better figure on paying upwards of $50 per shirt. I was trying to keep the cost similar to the hats - thus the size is approximately the same. Our shirtmaker here is very flexible and I can get anything done for you - if you're willing to pay the price. I personally won't put $50 into a t-shirt that Ron's going to spill stuff on the first time he wears it!!! I'm perfect and never miss my mouth... Alex - thanks for the update on our guys in the hospital. Send our love and prayers please. Jamie
Jamie DeBates <rebate@mcn.net>
Big Timber, MT USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 09:28:52 (MDT)
Hello Flight, how's everyone doing today? Ron and Jamie DeBates. I received my shirt yesterdy and it's great. I thought it was going to have the bigger patch on it but I think the small one is better. Jamie you did a great job on it. I'll probably be ordering another one. I recommend that all 129th people get one. Ray Gagner, if you wanted a shirt, this is one you should get... Hope all is well with you and your dealings with the V A.. Glad you finally found us. Rob
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, NY USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 07:51:37 (MDT)
DON JOHNSON------ DID YOU GET THE PACKAGE I SENT YOU? ------ IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE SHUR TO CONTACT ME. I WILL BE HEADING BACK TO THAILAND THIS SUNDAY. YOUR PAL JOE
JOE JOHNSON <cobra073@yahoo.com>
morongo va , CA USA - Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 02:15:54 (MDT)
Alex thanks for the info on the viet nam throw rug. My better half works for walmart, I got one the next day. Mine's going on my wall in the pootter room. Thats my room I do what I want in there. Funny thing my son saw the throw and said he was glad to see I wasn't ashamed of being in Nam anymore. I had to think, sometimes I think in the back of my mind I was ashamed of it. Now don't know. Do know I never bragged about it. All the brothers and sisters here on the 129th help. I guess my way of dealing with it was to just not talk about it or think about it. Now I hate that because I've fogotten so much about that year. Friends, parties and yes the bad times too. Rambling now so I'm going to say goodnight to all and all my love. A Proud Viet Nam Veteran out in the sticks of MS.
Ron Cooper <ronsusan@intop.net>
out in the sticks, MS USA - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 20:18:52 (MDT)
Flight: Well it's been a long day. Found out that Llyod Godwin VHCMA member was here in ICU at a local hospital. I spent time with his wife Freda and family. Lloyd isn't in any pain according to the doctors. But, his liver and kidneys have shut down. Now it's up to the lord to decide whether Lloyd will stay with us or go with him. Tommy Mangum And his wife Ophelia also were there.Tommy suffered a major stroke a year ago in October. Lloyd and Tommy were blessed with wonderful wives. And many of us are blessed with wonderful wives or spouses. It's been a tuff day for me and I guess I needed to share it with my family, which is all of you. I guess don't know how long we have left on this earth. But, at least we have bonded one more time by these reunions and the 129th web site. Thanks Mark!! Always A Brother Alex
Alex Fernwalt <alfernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Memphis, TN USA - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 19:56:56 (MDT)
Flight, Here's some interesting bit of news. Gary Villamaino (394th 67-68) tells me that a member of the "Brooklyn Bridge" (the popular "Do-wop" band) is in fact one of our own 129th brothers. His name is Les Cauchi and his name is on our April 1967 Roster that Alex has added to the Gallery for us. Has anyone else heard this story or remember him? I sent a "feeler" out and left our website for him to check in with us. Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In USA - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 07:37:51 (MDT)
Don't worry about the spelling Gently! After reading a few of the postings we get used to reading phonetically. We know you ment to say SUBMITTAL. Unless, of course, there is something else going on in your life having to do with SUBMISSION! Thanks for the update.
Dan Hertlein <dhert10408@aol.com>
Sumne, WA USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 17:09:32 (MDT)
Rick England, thanks for the listing of the VHPA members. I saw some names there I haven't seen on this site. I was saddened to hear of Pete Abplanalp's death. He was involved in a chopper crash near Denver a couple of years ago in a medevac operation and was killed. He was the first pilot I flew with on a regular mission (outside of Tiger Wagon).
Dave Powers <powers@montrose.net>
Montrose, Colorado USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 14:28:54 (MDT)
ptsd thats a laugh.years ago ,V.A. told me i sure had a case,but it wasnt "service connected".Hmm,i said,i must have gotten it at the airport in chiago then. Dont make me laugh with this goverments 2 sided policy towards that.Jim was lucky he got his. I have known just a few others that also got it.Is funny,i was in AA once and having lots of truma in my sleep,along with a very deep depression. couldnt think of anything slse but vietnam, friends at AA said go to outreach program.People at out reach program said go to AA.that was their help.all of it.Dont bother me boy,we busy with funding.I quit both.In my experience,V A is a joke.Hell,half the doctors dont even speak english and all think your there to get drugs. Sure,treatment is better than nothing,but dont u dare mention "service connected'thats when the the other side of va pops up. the ugly,uncaring side reveals itself.This is.of course, my own personal opinion, from my own personal interaction with them.to me,its almost if they, now. are the eniamy. i once was carrying some books into a hospital for a aa meeting. A mdeavak caught me by surprise as it was landing.i completly froze,i mean u couldnt move.My mind was screaming for me to drop the books and run,but another partknew what it was and still another part just watched bemused.The panic part overrode,chuckle,but was to paniced to run.the friends with me didnt have a clue .ptsd, laughing and spitting in goverenments eye .The goverenment can cram it up there........ sorry folks,must this makes me see red.poor boys,just stay off the grass,along with the dogs.And, i am so sick of hearing that vietnam vets are just a bunch of crybabies.its been a few years since i heard that,but if i ever hear it again,i am going to hit somebody.Had an uncle.coronol,was in na thrang.was in engineers.he said that once when we were all there for thanksgiving.boy i got pissed.Told family the only thing he saw was golf clubs.the only dead bodies he saw were passed out drunkards.never been back tofamily since.one understands tho.he was a fighter piolt.shot down and captured in laos ,i think it was...he knows...or his own version of hell anyway.some of us escaped with a simple tour,others didnt...grrrr, , i better go now,im off on another ...dont know what to call it,but always end up drunk for a while.bye all
fred alvis <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 07:50:35 (MDT)
I give up-you figure it out! I'm going home. Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 07:18:02 (MDT)
Egad!!!!! That is suppose to be
Gently <Jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 07:16:48 (MDT)
What's a submition???? Make that
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 07:14:31 (MDT)
Damn! I just wrote a submition and then I hit the delete key-hate that! So here I go again. Great to see all the new names-"Welcome Home" gentlemen, and you are at "home" on the 129th. Stay with us through thick and thin, like we will stay with you. Kokomo? Well, I've heard it's the 20th of September, but the best person for us to get info from is the invisible Ron Paye, Sir. Kokomo, for those of you who don't know or haven't experienced it, is the annual gathering of Viet Nam Veterans and their families in Kokomo, Indy. Last year there were 40,000 in attendance and it was wonderful. It was, and again Ron, help me out here, the 17th gathering. Its held in several corn fields leased by the Indy Viet Nam Veterans(I think they own it now)so you can camp, park your UV, or hotel it. One thing I found that was particulary moving was the various Units from Nam with signs in front of their campsites stating their units! What a wonderful way to run in to your brothers! There's music, food, water, fire wood, and many vendors. I'm sure Mr.Pay can add to and correct this information. It's wonderful to attend. Last year Ron, Mark and Dee, Gale and T.J. and Joe and I attended. It's a trip. Make it one. ALex, thanks for the list of our ill veterans-will be right on that. I'm gathering material for the Library of Congress Veterans Project with the PTSD shrink at the local VA, so that's going to take up alot of my time-that means of course that in Atlanta next year I will be interviewing many of you. More on that later. Anyway, it's keeping me busy. Ok, bye for now guys and gals-Ron Paye-miss you my friend, am I going to have to spend money and call you??? Always a sister to our Veterans-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, July 29, 2002 at 07:12:55 (MDT)
Flight: Well good seeing the commo. Welcome back Jim Flynn. Sent you an email Bro! Mark, glad you got a night off. Hope you and Dee had a great time with those grand kids. Gently, hope you got the sick call list, copied Mark but, it came back. Will try to re-send it. Hope some of you have been to Walmart and gotten the Vietnam throw!!! I don,t know how long they will stock them, the first I ever seen with hueys on them. It's good seeing the new Brothers finding our web site. I hoping to have the largest unit turn out at LZ Atlanta. Which each one increase every year. Take Care Brother and Sisters. ALEX
Alex Fernwalt <alfernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Memphis, TN. USA - Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 18:56:43 (MDT)
Hello! Itís been a long time, but Iíve finally rejoined the 129th! I was in the Service Platoon at Lane in 67-68. The book for sale on Ebay was mine! Last year we were cleaning up years of accumulated stuff around the house and had a garage sale. Since I had that manual taking up space all those years, I finally decided to get rid of it (I could kick myself now!). Long story short, someone brought it for a couple of dollars and is now trying to make a profit on it. The hell with the book however, the memories are still mine! It is really great reading the Flight Log and remembering some of the names. My congratulations also go to Mark Jackson on the creation of this fantastic web site. Itís great!
Jim Flynn <jim0428@adelphia.net>
Carver, Ma USA - Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 17:09:31 (MDT)
Ghoastrider1, Randerschat@wssrap.com, idleandy01@hotmail.com, dkomus@yahoo.com, wbecker52@knology.net, Pinesongwizard, william.bowers@seigroupinc.com, dorts421@ticon.net, chuckbrown1@earthlink.net, harrybryson@mindspring.com, c_buchanan@email.msn.com, mary.cavender@seigroupinc.com, rccipriano@juno.com, G4630, desi_b@hotmail.com, Gmadesi, TDescamps@dykema.com, RedLeg11, TwigsNTX, blfenske@hbci.com, mferris@bechtel.com, Have your sound on !! Some impresssive pictures, etc. at this site. Takes a while to load, but you can do other things while waiting. Click here: America Attacked 9 1 1 hey ,,, thois is a great flash pick od world trade center episode. it takes abot 20 minutes to download and its worth it.Please have sound on when u watch it.it will make u mad and might even bring a tear.this is very ,very good.
fred alvis <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, July 28, 2002 at 12:07:57 (MDT)
I am sory it came out that way , but these are pilots names from the 129th if you want the list in form BC me
Rick England <bd431@mindspring.com>
USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 23:51:19 (MDT)
I think this is worth the Space VHPA members or friends who were in: Unit 129 M = member, L = life member, D = dead member, Z = potential member S = subscriber, C = complimentary Y = good address, N = not good address SUBSTR(member,1,1)+"-"+TRIM(goodaddres)+"-"+TRIM(dirsort)+", "+TRIM(address1)+", "+TRIM(address2)+", "+TRIM(city)+", "+TRIM(state)+" "+TRIM(zip)+", "+homephone+", "+email D-Y-ABPLANALP PETER, 1752 28 Ave, , Greeley, CO 80631, /637-4030 , M-Y-ADAMS ROBERT F, 2826 Far View Cir, , La Crescent, MN 55947, 507/895-8219 , L-Y-ALEXANDER JACKIE DEAN, 966 Beechwood Dr, , Medina, OH 44256, 330/725-5089 , CPTJAC@email.msn.com M-Y-ALEXANDER LARRY R, 615 Nuckols Rd, , Seale, AL 36875, 334/855-3100 , M-Y-AYRES LARRY J, N3880 Park Rd, , Brodhead, WI 53520, 608/897-4996 , ljayres@wekz.net M-Y-BARBER JOHN D, 14970 SW 156 Ave, , Miami, FL 33196, 305/232-3580 , ivanairusa@aol.com M-Y-BARKLAGE LARRY E, 11 Needle Ct, , O Fallon, MO 63366, 504/654-0367 , L-Y-BARNICLE JOHN T, PO Box 3317, , Swords County Dublin, , 088/583-636 , M-Y-BEARDSLEY RICHARD E, 5985 Camray Cir, , Carmichael, CA 95608, 916/488-6535 , Richard.beardsley@ca.arng.army.mil M-Y-BECKETT GEORGE T, PO Box 460, , Heathsville, VA 22473, 703/207-9092 , janbeckett@aol.com M-Y-BELLER JACK L, 603 S Riverside Dr, , Indialantic, FL 32903, 407/984-1030 , M-Y-BENEDICT RICKI L, 321 Watson Rd, , Allenwood, PA 17810, 717/547-6263 , stij@earth.sunlink.net M-Y-BROWN BRYAN DOUG, 2 Adams St, , Ft Bragg, NC 28307, 910/436-4994 , bbrown1776@aol.com D-N-BRUCE MICHAEL A, 741 Sun Lake rd, , Lake Villa, IL 60046, 847/356-1645 , M-Y-BUISKER THEODORE M, 8744 E Pleasant View Rd, , Davis, IL 61019, 815/865-5797 , skyking@stateline-isp.com M-N-CALDER JOHN T, 9611 N 7 Pl, , Phoenix, AZ 85020, 602/277-4229 , M-Y-CALE CHARLES I, 144 Robert Reid Rd, , Poplarville, MS 39470, 601/795-6310 , M-Y-CAMERON CRAIG S, 132 Laurel Breeze Dr, , Enterprise, AL 36330, 205/393-1496 , M-Y-CAMPANALIE RICHARD A, 525 Spring Gate Ln, , Alpharetta, GA 30004, 678/339-9836 , rick_nulec@msn.com M-Y-CHESHIRE ALAN K, 211 W 5th St, , Los Fresnos, TX 78566, 956/233-5043 , M-Y-CLAMP ALTON, 7027 W Broward Blvd #257, , Plantation, FL 33317, 305/653-3033 , L-Y-CLASSEN CURT, 7960 E Russet Sky Dr, , Scottsdale, AZ 85262, 480/488-9116 , curtclassen@msn.com M-Y-CODY BILL, 15606 Pilgrim Hall, , Friendswood, TX 77546, 281/993-5111 , ac2874@wayne.edu M-Y-COLLES RAYMOND B, 654 McGill Gin Rd, , Sulligent, AL 35586, 205/695-9633 , realcajun5@yahoo.com M-Y-COOPER ALFRED B, 510 Victoria Drive, , Enterprise, AL 36330, 205/347-0671 , M-Y-COOPER NELSON J, 7113 Enfield Dr, , Fayetteville, NC 28303, 910/867-3962 , ncooper273@aol.com L-Y-CORKRAN DONALD L, PO Box 294173, , Kerrville, TX 78029, 830/896-7558 , M-N-COULMAN MICHAEL A, 10011 Autumn Ln, , Pensacola, FL 32514, , L-Y-COURTNEY WILLIAM C, 74 Magdalena Drive, , Rancho Mirage, CA 92270, 619/770-2015 , L-Y-CRIGLER JAMES F III, 300 Wildwood Dr, , Winona, MN 55987, 507/454-0345 , M-Y-DAVIS DAVID P, 3736 Syracuse St, , Dearborn, MI 48124, 313/561-5924 , DPDavis@webtv.net M-Y-DAVIS JOHN A, 218 Winsor Dr, , Lafayette, LA 70507, 337/233-5176 , davis-ja@msn.com D-Y-DAVIS ROBERT S, PO Box 532, , Waynesboro, MS 39367, 601/735-5511 , M-Y-DEITZ LEONARD A, RFD 3 Box 111 Maple Rd, , Atkinson, ME 04426, 207/564-3438 , M-Y-DEPUGLIA JOSEPH A JR, 192 Beacon Dr, , Milpitas, CA 95035, 408/262-1167 , DePuglia@jps.net M-Y-DILLINGHAM KEVIN E, 39 Windsor Way, , Annville, PA 17003, 717/838-5969 , sk61pilot @aol.com M-Y-DURDEN JOHNNY D, 12250 Brassica St, , San Diego, CA 92129, 619/538-3555 , johnnyd435@aol.com M-Y-EVANS RAYMOND E, PO Box 306, , Altoona, KS 66710, 907/852-4028 , M-Y-EWING EARL P, 6 Christopher Ct West, , Hummelstown, PA 17036, 717/566-6182 , M-Y-FANNON MICHAEL A, 5625 Christmas Lake Point, , Excelsior, MN 55331, 612/470-0909 , L-Y-FRANICH STEPHEN J JR, PO Box 189, , Gig Harbor, WA 98335, 206/851-4288 , L-Y-FRY ALAN J, 8800 Indian Hill Rd, , Cincinnati, OH 45243, 513/271-6792 , L-Y-GILLILAND VIC P, 2526 Fawn Oak, , San Antonio, TX 78232, 210/496-9440 , M-Y-GOERGES EDWARD ALEXANDER, 474 W Edgewater Ter, , New Braunfels, TX 78130, , L-Y-GOMEZ DAVID A, 14443 Shawnee Street, , Moorpark, CA 93021, 818/592-8851 , dustoff@earthlink.net M-Y-GONZALEZ RALPH F, 7309 Brookview Circle, , Tampa, FL 33634, 813/882-8691 , rgonzal5@tampabay.rr.com M-Y-GRACE STEPHEN W, 7699 Belpine Pl, , Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730, 909/466-1114 , steve62@ix.netcom.com M-N-GREEN KENNETH D, PO Box 80468, , Fairbanks, AK 99708, 907/479-3298 , M-N-GREEN RAYMOND V, 1832 Tracy Lane, , Auburn, CA 95603, 916/823-2710 , L-Y-HARDY WILLIAM MICHAEL, 114 New Castle Ct, , Rolling Meadows, IL 60008, 708/397-0531 , mhardy9148@aol.com M-Y-HARSHMAN GARY, 2091 Paseo Ambar, , San Dimas, CA 91773, 909/592-0448 , M-Y-HARTRICH WILLIAM, 160 S Elm Ave, , St Louis, MO 63119, 314/962-2110 , bhartr@aol.com M-Y-HAUSMAN FRANK TOM, 3070 Rio Plumosa N, , Indialantic, FL 32903, 321/777-2058 , thausm01@harris.com M-Y-CHADWICK GARY, 2531 E Kays Creek Dr, , Layton, UT 84040, / - , g_chadwick@msn.com M-Y-HENSLEY RICHARD W, 7615 Harvest Lane, , Vacaville, CA 95688, 916/678-5096 , M-Y-HILL DAVID R, PO Box 6162, , Saginaw, MI 48608, / - , M-N-HOGAN KIM P, PO Box 63, , Arabi, LA 70032, 504/278-8268 , M-Y-HUGGETT CHARLES H, 1841 Pelican Ct, , Neptune Beach, FL 32266, 904/246-9011 , M-Y-HUSTWIT JOHN W JR, 1249 Prospect Rd, , Pittsburgh, PA 15227, 412/344-3245 , M-Y-JEANES BILL F, 3907 Dunaire Drive, , Valrico, FL 33594, , M-Y-JOHNSON PETER L, 2113 Limrick Dr, , Pearland, TX 77581, 281/484-9350 , Airseptor@aol.com L-Y-JONES ALAN F, 1925 Septiembre St, , El Paso, TX 79935, / - , AFJones40@aol.com D-N-JONES CARL R, 13901 Yorba St Apt 29, , Tustin, CA 92780, 919/861-2861 , M-Y-JUNEAU DANIEL M, 1133 Pristine Pl, , Lutz, FL 33549, 813/949-1448 , djuneau226@aol.com M-Y-KIEFER MICHAEL, 1501 Eden Isle Blvd Ne Apt, , Saint Petersburg, FL 33704, 727/896-4188 , M-Y-KINNE KENNETH, 101 S Brewer Rd, , Lincoln, CA 95648, 916/645-1553 , kkinne2477@aol.com M-Y-KIRSCHBAUM H S, 4505 Stonewall Ave, , Richmond, VA 23225, 678/575-0528 , M-N-KNAPP HARRISON H, 1331 Brookview Dr, , Concord, CA 94520, 415/676-8520 , M-Y-KNEBUSCH WILLIAM ELLIOT, 2207 Lipscomb, , Amarillo, TX 79109, 806/374-2985 , billybob@arn.net M-N-KRUTSCHEWSKI PETER L, PO Box 1255, , E Lansing, MI 48826, 517/694-7501 , M-Y-LAFAIVE JAMES E, 2912 Sussex Lane, , Waukesha, WI 53188, 414/521-2998 , M-Y-LAMBERT ROBERT A, 36233 Fort Rd, , St Peter, MN 56082, 507/931-2856 , lambertshighoaks@aol.com M-Y-LANCE KENNETH E, 871 Pamela Kay Ln, , Weatherford, TX 76088, 940/682-7283 , M-Y-LAUGHLIN RICHARD, 400 Lippi Blvd, , Lafayette, LA 70508, , M-Y-LAWRENCE RICHARD E, 66 329 Pikai St, , Haleiwa, HI 96712, 808/637-7791 , M-Y-LEACH WILLIAM E, 350 Boon Dock Rd, , Chase City, VA 23924, 804/372-5750 , Billbob@kerrlake.com M-Y-LEDBETTER MICHAEL D, 2264 N Metzletein Rd, , Billings, MO 65610, 573/634-5119 , ledcheryl@home.com M-Y-LENTZ RONAL P, 301 W 1st Suite A, , San Angelo, TX 76903, 915/658-6776 , D-N-LEWIS CURTIS R, PO Box 6555, , San Bernardino, CA 92412, 714/883-3381 , L-Y-LEWIS PAYTON R JR, 425 Carr 693, PMB379, , Dorado, PR 00646, 787/270-4423 , lewis@coqui,net M-Y-LITTLE STEVE K, 617 W 3rd St, , Anaconda, MT 59711, 406/563-2052 , L-Y-LOCKARD DENNIS N, 1559 S 4th St, , Dayton, WA 99328, 509/382-2302 , D-Y-LOPEZ MICHAEL S, Unit 24502 Box 53, , APO, AE 09053, 703/370-1260 , M-Y-LOUDAKIS GEORGE, 6945 SW Melissa Ln, , Stuart, FL 34997, 407/286-7646 , G_George_Loudakis@fpl.com M-Y-MACKINNON JOHN NOEL, 22600 Alexandrine, , Dearborn, MI 48124, 313/277-5066 , MHLawmichigan@aol.com M-N-MACNICOL ROBERT D, PMB 186, 1013 Broad River Rd, Columbia, SC 29210, 916/802-4649 , M-Y-MACPETRIE DOUGLAS E, 2920 Lola Court, , Drayton Plains, MI 48020, , M-Y-MAGLIO ANTHONY G, 385 Country Club Dr, , Novato, CA 94949, 415/883-0918 , M-N-MAHAFFEY PATRICK A, PO Box 802, 150 Hunter Rd, Colfax, CA 95713, 916/346-2579 , M-Y-MCADOO DENNIS A, Rt 1 Box 47, , Lawton, OK 73501, 405/355-4557 , macmcadoo@aol.com M-Y-MCCARTHY JAMES P, 20723 N 74th St, , Scottsdale, AZ 85255, , M-Y-MCDANIEL TERRY LEE, 4863 Zenith St Apt 207, , Metairie, LA 70001, 817/573-0432 , oreo@itexas.net Z-Y-MCDERMOTT TONY, 396 Sky Meadow Rd, , Sagle, ID 83860, 406/273-6877 , tonym@century21mt.com M-Y-MCENTIRE ALFORD GLEN, 13825 N Everest, , Edmond, OK 73013, 405/478-1290 , L-Y-MCKAY DONALD, 493R Route 6A, , E Sandwich, MA 02537, 508/888-4479 , M-Y-MCKENNA TIMOTHY, 4412 Saber Court, , Plano, TX 75024, 972/398-9204 , RVNCobra37@aol.com D-Y-MCLAUGHLIN KENNETH B, 231 Ridgewood St, , Lufkin, TX 75904, 409/637-1880 , M-Y-MCMILLEN JOHN C, 941 NW 42nd TER, , Gainesville, FL 32605, 352/374-7033 , L-Y-MCNEAL ROBERT A, 421 Wyatt Avenue, , Las Vegas, NV 89106, 205/347-7702 , M-Y-MCPHAIL JAMES D, 8361 E Desert Steppes Dr, , Tucson, AZ 85710, 602/885-1671 , M-Y-MEISNER NEAL E, 11713 SE Flavel, , Portland, OR 97266, / - , M-Y-MELENDEZ CARLOS J, 7034 Golf Pointe Cir, , Tamarac, FL 33321, 954/276-2333 , ranger6@bellsouth.net M-N-MELLON JOHN S, 4535 Mt Paran Pkwy, , Atlanta, GA 30327, 404/237-9500 , M-Y-MERRITT RONALD H, 116 Laurel Breeze Dr, , Enterprise, AL 36330, 205/347-1418 , M-Y-MICHENER JAMES, PO Box 4474, Villa Dara, Vientiane, , 856/214-2528 , ophirlao@laonet.net M-Y-MILES KENNETH MICHAEL, 9465 Gulley's Cove Lane, , Easton, MD 21601, 202/219-1356 , miles9465@goeaston.net M-Y-MILLER BILLY H, 250 Haverland Dr, , Georgetown, TX 78626, 521/863-2173 , M-Y-MILLER DONALD, 811 Willbrook Cir, , Sneads Ferry, NC 28460, 910/327-9681 , donald.miller2@att.net M-Y-MILLER LELAND B, 801 W Bluff St, , Marquette, MI 49855, / - , M-Y-MILLER MICHAEL B, 660 Calmace Dr, , Dixon, CA 95620, 707/678-3773 , mikem660@aol.com M-Y-MONTGOMERY WILLIAM H, 12409 W Lewis Ave, , Avondale, AZ 85323, 623/536-1106 , montybill@aol.com Z-N-MUISE ED, 2517 N 58th Lane, , Phoenix, AZ 85035, , M-Y-MURPHY ROBERT L, 100 Oyster Shell Rd #C-4, , Savannah, GA 31410, 912/897-9678 , M-Y-NEWHOUSE JAMES P, 9359 Blind Pass Rd Apt 505, , St Pete Beach, FL 33706, 727/363-1168 , rerunjpn@aol.com M-Y-NICKS DENNIS WAYNE, 525 Mt Fury Cir SW, , Issaquah, WA 98027, 425/557-2910 , M-Y-NOGLE LONNIE E, 13001 Blue Lake Dr, , Wellington, FL 33414, 561/333-8582 , L-Y-NOLEN RALPH N JR, 11211 Cedric Rd, , Maurice, LA 70555, 318/873-7383 , cobrabaron@myexcel.com M-Y-NOLLNER THOMAS E, 1954 1st Street #173, , Highland Park, IL 60035, 502/693-1194 , thomas.nollner@occ.treas.gov Z-N-NOSER WILLIAM W, 121 Lewfield Cir, , Winter Park, FL 32792, , M-Y-ORR DONALD R, PO Box 108, , Belleview, MO 63623, , M-Y-OTTO ROBERT W, 8080 Scottsville Rd, , Alvaton, KY 42122, 270/782-1097 , Robert_Otto@msn.com L-Y-OVERSTREET HARRY LEE, 5525 S Staples Ste A 1, , Corpus Christi, TX 78411, 512/991-5911 , M-Y-PAGE ALTON, 114 Half Moon Dr, , W Columbia, SC 29172, 803/755-9564 , M-Y-PARKS PERRY M III, 118 Woodfield Drive, , Rockingham, NC 28379, 910/997-5263 , perryparks@murphybrownllc.com L-Y-PAULSON KENNETH, 1838 E Oceanview, , Norfolk, VA 23503, 757/588-1525 , kenpaulson@juno.com M-Y-PEDERSEN TOM, 540 Moon Place Rd, , Lawrenceville, GA 30044, 770/978-7390 , safetyshark@aol.com M-Y-PINK JOHN L, 204 Stonegate Wy, , Camden Wyoming, DE 19934, 302/698-1673 , pinkjohn@aol.com M-Y-PLUMMER ROBERT D, 2655 Schoolmaster Dr, , Plainfield, IN 46168, 317/271-9031 , M-Y-PRIEBE JOEL A, 5315 Greenview Ln, , Minneapolis, MN 55422, 715/247-5634 , M-Y-PRIEST PETER D, 2200 S Ocean Ln Ste 2701, , Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316, 305/524-1712 , M-Y-QUIGLEY PETER D, 2001 Elizabeth Ave, , Whiting, NJ 08759, 908/849-1707 , pquigley@americom.com Z-N-RIZZO JOHN P, 2650 River Rd S Apt E, , Salem, OR 97302, , M-Y-ROBBINS LEONARD L, 4334 Lake Grove Dr, , Seabrook, TX 77586, , italy44@swbell.net L-Y-ROBINSON THOMAS R, 15061 Highway 6, , Iredell, TX 76649, , M-Y-ROTH RICHARD, 7717 Loch Glen Dr, , Crystal Lake, IL 60014, 815/477-0135 , richardr@computer-bay.com M-Y-ROTH RONALD H, 514 Burnt Log Dr, , Fortson, GA 31808, 404/489-2800 , M-Y-ROY TOM M, 135 Cotton Patch Pl, , Southern Pines, NC 28387, 910/692-3017 , tommroy@aol.com M-Y-ROYCE MICHAEL, 1920 Bristol Ct, , W Linn, OR 97068, 503/722-7157 , mroyce@home.com D-Y-RUBIOLO RICHARD A, PO Box 633, , Ft Rucker, AL 36362, 334/894-5109 , srubiolo@snowhill.com M-Y-RUDY TIM J, 8 Roseberry Topping Ct, , St Charles, MO 63304, 636/441-2595 , M-N-SALE DAVID F, 3845 N Kings Peak, , Mesa, AZ 85215, 205/393-2885 , M-N-SAURER HAROLD D, PO Box 170, , Kailua, HI 96734, 808/261-3422 , M-Y-SCHAUMBERG THOMAS J, PO Box 2287, , Overton, NV 89040, 702/397-6698 , fotrfin@yahoo.com Z-Y-SCHMIEDT DARWIN L, RR 1 Box 200, , Woonsocket, SD 57385, , M-Y-SCHUMACHER JOHN F, 59 Valley Rd, , Bronxville, NY 10708, 212/809-7550 , john.schumacher@aig.com M-Y-SCOTT DOUGLAS E, 12118 Alston Dr, , Stafford, TX 77477, 281/498-8282 , M-N-SCOTT KENNETH C, 236 Fairwood Cir, , Hot Springs, AR 71913, 501/769-0077 , M-Y-SEPESY JOSEPH M, 7769 Silver Fox Dr, , Boardman, OH 44512, 330/758-7785 , L-Y-SHARP DAVE C, 6001 Sawgrass Dr SE, , Salem, OR 97306, 503/391-6819 , dsharp@valleyoilco.com M-Y-SHEA PATRICK O, 3703 Quaint Acres Cr, , Falls Church, VA 22041, 813/747-3681 , L-Y-SHILLITO WILLIAM, 3248 Weidner Rd, , Newton, NC 28658, 828/466-0136 , bill.shillito@prodelin.com M-Y-SIKES JAMES MARLIN, 4819 Renfrew Dr, , Durham, NC 27705, 919/383-2479 , james.sikes@triangledayschool.org M-Y-SIMMONS CHET, Box 86, , Davenport, CA 95017, 831/818-2892 , M-N-SMITH CHARLES W #2, Rt 1 Box 337, , Chancellor, AL 36316, 334/347-4883 , M-Y-SMITH DOUGLAS I JR, 348 Indian Gate Circle, , Ridgeland, MS 39157, 601/853-2384 , dismithj@aol.com L-Y-SMITH RICHARD K, 12400 Partridge Hill Row, , Bayonet Point, FL 34667, 813/863-2897 , M-Y-SMITH RICHARD M II, 6782 Lakeside Rd, , W Palm Beach, FL 33411, 407/686-0249 , L-Y-SMITH RON, PO Box 31, Khon Kaen University, Khon Kaen 40002, , 43/225-148 , ron@kku1.kku.ac.th M-Y-SNYDER MICHAEL J, PO Box 160, , Swiftwater, PA 18370, 717/839-7299 , M-Y-SOVICH JEROME M, 350 Rolling Hill Rd, , Freedom, PA 15042, 724/774-6460 , M-Y-STARK RANDY C, 6592 Leyland Park Dr, , San Jose, CA 95120, 408/997-2053 , M-N-STEWART G WAYNE, PO Box 6566, , Lake Charles, LA 70606, , M-Y-STRONG TERRY W, 4320 E Ford Ave, , Higley, AZ 85236, 602/830-2484 , M-Y-THIES LARRY D, 8684 Burns Rd, , Fenton, IL 61251, 309/659-7742 , lthies@murphybrosinc.com M-Y-THILL DAVID C, 202 Barbara Dr, , Enterprise, AL 36330, 334/347-0715 , thilld@entercomp.com M-Y-THOMAS WILLIAM F, 1449 Bethaven Rd, , Riverdale, GA 30296, 770/996-5009 , wfwl@msw.com M-Y-THURN EDWARD M, 99 Hilltop Tr, , Sparta, NJ 07871, 201/398-7656 , M-Y-TILTON JOHN EDWARD, 2949 Highway 45, , Sterrett, AL 35147, /672-6951 , johul@tiltoniory M-Y-TINDALL MICHAEL J, 4 Red Oak Dr, , Plainsboro, NJ 08536, 609/799-5854 , M-Y-TRAVIS JAMES B JR, 10821 Eagle Nest Rd, , Ocean Springs, MS 39564, , L-Y-TRUMBO RICHARD D, 6337 Rassler Ave, , Las Vegas, NV 89107, 702/878-8893 , M-Y-TURNER KEITH W, 519 McKinley Ave, , Woodland, CA 95695, 530/662-8026 , rotrhead@tomatoweb.com L-Y-VENABLE MIKE, 703 Pintail Ct, , Granbury, TX 76049, 817/578-3338 , M-Y-VERNON JIM, 6341 Sonoma Hwy, , Santa Rosa, CA 95409, 707/539-0515 , jve9632031@aol.com M-Y-WAGNER EDWARD M, 2580 Vista Ridge, , Troy, OH 45373, 937/335-4528 , edjudiwagner@aol.com M-Y-WALLACE ROBERT L, 8354 W 100th St, , Bloomington, MN 55438, 952/947-9406 , akmom@earthlink.net Z-Y-WATSON J C, 301 Callaway St, , Newton, AL 36352, , Z-N-WEAVER BOB, 7910 E Thomas, , Scottsdale, AZ 85251, , M-Y-WEBB WILLIAM H, 3583 Peakwood Dr SW, , Roanoke, VA 24014, 540/982-6545 , willwebb214@aol.com M-Y-WECHS JOHN J, RD 2 Box 17, , Martinsburg, PA 16662, , M-Y-WEISHEIT R KEITH, 6635 Big Cynthiana Rd, , Evansville, IN 47720, 812/963-8250 , rkweishe@evansville.net M-E-WENDT PETER C, 31 Toner Rd, , Boonton, NJ 07005, 201/263-8975 , wskydawg@cs.com M-Y-WERNLI PAUL W, 106 Maple Valley Dr, , Madison, AL 35758, 256/430-3135 , pwwernl:@cs.com M-Y-WEST JAMES K, 6881 Kirby Mills Cove, , Memphis, TN 38115, 901/366-5544 , Z-Y-WHITE JOHN L, 211 Conkling, , Garden City, KS 67846, , L-Y-WHITEHOUSE RANDALL S, 4848 Nottingham Lane, , Birmingham, AL 35223, 205/967-5642 , M-Y-WINSLOW BOB, LPR-7730 Colorado Hwy 7, , Estes Park, CO 80517, 970/586-2862 , Z-N-WINTERS DON, 105 Liberty Ln, , Hamilton, MT 59840, 406/363-4465 , S-Y-WITWER JOHN, PO Box 2167, , Evergreen, CO 80437, 303/674-0219 , L-Y-WOODSIDE ROBERT A, 158 Valencia, , Windsor, CA 95492, 916/666-0834 , M-Y-WRAY DANNY C, 4 Hickory Dr, , Lyons, CO 80540, 303/823-6775 , dkwray@att.net M-Y-WUEST KENNETH WESLEY, 1009 Craddock Street, , Copperas Cove, TX 76522, 254/542-5161 , kwuest@excite.com M-Y-ZANDRI FREDERICK T, 5330 Hwy 49 W, , Vanleer, TN 37181, 615/763-2444 , ftzandri@tva.gov M-Y-BERGSTROM KALLY JOHN, 684 Clemens Ave, , St Joseph, MI 49085, 616/429-9055 , n8auu@email.com M-Y-HENDRIX LELAND J, 4324 Loma De Brisas Drive, , El Paso, TX 79934, 915/821-4368 , LHXEP@aol.com M-Y-MCGUFFIN JOHN H, P.O. Box 408, , Redwood Valley, CA 95470, 408/245-0630 , John_McGuffin@yahoo.com M-Y-GOFF THOMAS, 1055 Dusty Rd, , Colfax, CA 95713, 530/671-7944 , tgsk64@aol.com M-Y-PAYE RONALD R, 6508 Kellum Dr, , Indianapolis, IN 46221, 317/856-6867 , ronpaye@comcast.net M-Y-TENHET PAUL Q, 843 W Vine St, , Tooele, UT 84074, 435/882-3820 , pqt2@trilobyte.net M-Y-LAUERMAN DEAN A, 1029 Camino Del Valle, , Alameda, CA 94502, 510/769-6562 , dlauerman@home.com M-Y-REGER LANNY R, 96000 Overseas Hwy BB-2, , Key Largo, FL 33037, 305/852-0383 , lannykay@prodigy.net Z-Y-GRIMM JAMES, 4607 Everest Cir, , Cypress, CA 90630, 714/952-1601 , jamesgrimm@email.msn.com Z-Y-CAMPBELL MICHAEL H, 105 Tomales St, , Sausalito, CA 94965, 415/332-2526 , CampbellMichaelH@cs.com M-Y-REED GARY K, Rt 1 Box 125 B, , Alderson, WV 24910, 304/445-2831 , M-Y-PATTERSON CLIFF, 5111 Cory Ct, , Arlington, TX 76017, 817/478-6364 , molly278@attbi.com M-Y-TAGG STEVEN J, 4 Cary Rd, , Great Neck, NY 17021, 516/466-9556 , steven.tagg@tagggraphic.com M-Y-ROBERTS WILLIAM R, 2659 250th St, , Marshalltown, IA 50158, 515/752-5472 , gettoknowgildners@prodigy.net M-Y-REDMON DAVID JOHN, 16803 Maple Glade, , San Antonio, TX 78247, 210/490-9629 , redmon@texas.net M-Y-VREEMAN TIMOTHY J, 1908 49th Ave N, , Moorhead, MN 56560, 218/291-1041 , timothyvreeman@meritcare.com M-Y-BISH DELBERT E, PO Box 214, , Clarion, PA 16214, 814/764-5911 , M-Y-CHAPMAN RICHARD G JR, 4455 Spiceglen Drive, , Colorado Springs, CO 80906, 719/540-5822 , springsengr@aol.com M-Y-CULLISON MARC L, HC 61 Box 426, , Sallisaw, OK 74955, 918/775-3653 , mculliso@ipa.net L-Y-PLANCHE JAMES M, 1945 Racquet Club Cir, , Lawrenceville, GA 30043, 770/513-3940 , jmp@eagleci.net M-Y-CAMERON ALEXANDER P, 209 N 31st St, , Ozark, AR 72949, 479/667-5143 , opa@ar-digit.net M-Y-JOHNSTON JACK C, 5021 Harbor Ln, , Everett, WA 98203, 425/423-0773 , M-Y-LANGE ROGER A, 1276 Chelsea Way, , Concord, CA 94521, 425/684-328888 , rgring@yahoo.com M-Y-MUIRHEAD RICHARD H, 140 N Gay St, , Susanville, CA 96130, 530/251-2051 , Z-Y-REDMAN FREDERICK J, 520 NW Poplar Ave, , Earlham, IA 50072, 515/758-3053 , fjrdsm@hotmail.com M-Y-SOLAR MICHAEL J, 1727 Yorway Dr, , Howell, MI 48843, 517/548-3489 , M-Y-SURGENER RONOLD L, 2323 Easthills Dr Unit 50, , Bakersfield, CA 93306, 661/871-9464 , M-Y-THUESON BRYCE C, 56 Reflection Pt, , The Woodlands, TX 77381, (281) 292-2480 , bnbthueson@attglobal.net Z-N-WINTERS DONALD L, , , , , , M-Y-CRAIG WILLIAM DAVID, 3 Ramsgate, , Savanah, GA 31419, 912/925-2507 , dcraig1481@aol.com M-Y-HEWITT ALLAN B, 229 Baytree Blvd, , Tavares, FL 32778, 352/343-6387 , abhewitt@earthlink.net L-Y-LATHAM DONALD E, 1468 Balsam Ave, , Alexander, IA 50420, 641/692-3546 , donl@lathamseeds.com
Rick England <bd431@mindspring.com>
USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 23:48:08 (MDT)
I remember Gary from the 394th. What this about a gig at Pop a top?
Rick England
USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 23:42:55 (MDT)
Flight, I need some help. I talked to someone in Phoenix that was in the 394th and knew Gary Villamaino (67-68). I just talked to Gary and I couldn't remember who it was that I talked to in Phoenix. Gary lives in Mass and I think that he might make LZ Atlanta in 2003. Don Whigham (Alabama) is also going to make it to Atlanta. Thanks Mark for letting me know about Jim Flynn being on the contact list....I tried to contact him. Anyone planning on being at the "Pop A Top" in the next month or so? Hey Judith...when is the Kokomo gig? Well, I better stop and freshen up my JP/4. Later Guys & Gals, Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In US OF A - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 20:32:05 (MDT)
......hey Flight..........here is the mail I got from the book writter that wants to do info on 129th cobra drivers..........call him if you like.................... ****************************************************************************************** Mr. Jackson, I am currently writing my first book for Osprey Publishing, tentatively titled "US Army AH-1 Cobra Units in Vietnam". The book is to be 96 pages with 100 Black & White photos, 20 color photos, and 40 full color aircraft profiles. At present I have a bit of information on 129th Cobras, but would like to expand on that ASAP. I've got a list of the Cobras that the 129th flew in Vietnam, but almost no information on the men who flew them, missions, AOs, etc. I have been speaking to Cobra drivers and crew chiefs since I began the project in March, and would love to interview members of the 129th to cover their aspect of this history as well. Also, I would like to include at least one color profile of a "King Cobras" Aircraft in the profiles section. I'm looking for personal histories, reflections, photographs (I'm happy to pay for copies of photos) and anything pertaining to the operational use of the Cobra in Vietnam and the men who flew it. Any assistance you can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks very much! Sincerely, Jonathan Bernstein 3002 4th Street Apt 156 Lubbock, TX 79415 (806)744-8381
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 13:27:24 (MDT)
.......Hellooooooooooo.flight...been a spell for me to be here.......as regaurds to the Jim Flynn on ebay with the manual for sale.....and one in the 129th......a Jim Flynn just checked into the roster last week and his address and info is in the CONTACTS section....Gale..........gonna take a nap.....first Satuerday we have had off in months.....son-in-law and daughter are runnin' the Pop-A-Top today and tonight....grandkids commin' in tomorrow...........Love all you all..........always a brother.........oh, also, have a guy that wrote to me that is writing a book of chopper drivers........lookin' for cobra drivers and some info about them and the machine........will post his message in here and you guys take over from there.....has info on 129th guys already........could it be that the 129th might be in a book..........we finally hit the big time..........Love you all..........always a brother,..............Mark and Dee
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 13:24:33 (MDT)
I still have my Huey manual, but, there was a guy with the last name of Flynn in the 129th when I was there....could this be a Bro.?? I'll check him out and get back. Thanks Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 12:12:35 (MDT)
Respects to all. See that Jim Flynn of the 129th AHC has "Original UH1 Helicopter Maintenance Manual" for sale on eBay. Item # 2125571685 if anyone is interested or just curious. KTF
C.P. Bloomfield "Poppasan"
MO USA - Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 11:40:35 (MDT)
Looks like Internet Marketing out of San Francisco could use a little help with their website...
Dave Powers <powers@montrose.net>
Montrose, Colorado USA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 11:25:02 (MDT)
Hey, Gale i'm doing great today. It's Friday and i can't wait to get out for the weekend. How's things going for everyone else?
robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 10:41:10 (MDT)
Matt, That goes for me too for the stickers. How are you doing today Robbie? Gale
Gale Beard <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In USA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 08:08:06 (MDT)
Matt Casey, do you have any more 129th window stickers? Would like to get two more. I had two and put them on the side of an electric truck I gave my grandson for his birthday. Looks great on the truck but now I don't have any. Let me know and I will send the $$ out. Thanks, Rob
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 07:21:24 (MDT)
I don't want to take up a lot of space so I'm just gonna post the link. Lot of aviation oriented humor, much of it British. http://people.aero.und.edu/~draper/milihum.html
Larry Kwiatkowski <chrger66@aol.com>
Simi Valley, CA USA - Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 18:18:02 (MDT)
Hello flight glad to see everyone had a good time at LZ AZ, been off the net for awhile, mama says I play with the PC to much but thats what toys are for. I broke it. Mark sorry about the bike, more sorry for Larrys wings but they will always be in your heart. Already planning on being in Atlanta 2003, found out to late to attend this years sounds like everyone had a great time. One day I'm going to fire up my motorhome and find coldwater ohio and visit the Pop-A-Top. Thats a promise. Its about 600 miles from Mississippi. Mark you should post some pics of the Pop-A-Top in the gallery I for one would love to see them and I'm sure some of the other folks would to. Talked enough, Love you all so I'm saying goodnight from the sticks.
Ron Cooper <ronsusan@intop.net>
In the sticks, MS USA - Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 19:45:25 (MDT)
Hello all I want to thank all I have talked to and those who have wrote Iam not sure whats goingg on hith in me But I need to say Sorry to BUd for I called his home by mistake many times this week and dont know how I did it I got sevicer officer last nightfrom the VFW he said he help me So Bud please Except my apolige for calling to much I know u said I can call but I was calling and not knowing it NOw men How can I Get a tee shirt and who do I send money to I love one I tell you all this is so much help to me Ithank you all love ya my brothers Ray Gagner and am proud to have been part of the 129th
Ray Gagner <Stilwating@aol.com>
Steet, MD USA - Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 06:05:14 (MDT)
one question was forgotten.and this is from a gunners view point.why did the make the brass bag clips on the sixty,sized just right to hold the worst tasting c- rats?
fred a <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 22:07:10 (MDT)
Ron, can`t think of anyone famous from MONTANA!!!!!! Except you!!!!!! And That`s " DeBateable"............................... Freddie
Freddie
USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 20:33:04 (MDT)
What`s Suppppp!!!!!!!! Ron, just got home from a brithday party. Owner of the pub, that I go to, brithday party!!!!! Toy Caldwell(Marshall Tucker Band}, Tommy Redd( Nantucket) Too Tall(Bill Clements)(Special 38.) all showed up for a blow-out. What a mess I am !!!!!!! But no-problem, Ron!!!! Just thought I`d sent you a " little bit " of OHIO!!!!!!!
Freddie Skaggs <ac459429@earthlink.net>
Raleight, N.C, USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 20:12:43 (MDT)
Freddie! Got this great little package in the mail today. THANK YOU!! Sounds like the trip to Coldwater (is that in Ohio or someplace famous like that?) was really fun. We hope to make it there next year - it will be quite a pilgramage! I don't fly in big airplanes any more - so will either drive or "borrow" somebody's helicopter. Wife probably wouldn't appreciate me retraining myself on how to fly it... Still reeling from Phoenix. What a highlight of my summer. Wished you could have been there - to defend yourself if nothing else - did you ever get the "moon" shot we sent to you? We were pretty proud of ourselves! Some of the guys even lowered the American flag at the hotel and added the POW/MIA flag beneath it and raised it back up. Really neat stuff. Mark and Dee - you're gonna love this. Desperate times at our house last week. Snake in the yard Thursday night - mouse in the house Friday night. Jamie attached to ceiling for days. Snake dead by shovel attack. Mouse dead from peanut butter in trap. Jamie back in Lazy Boy - still mumbling. Montana mice must not be as clever as Ohio mice - after all - everyone from Ohio seems to be famous!?!?!?! Freddie, your shirts (and Robbie's too) have been ordered. Will talk to all later - be in touch. Love, Ron and Jamie
Ron DeBates <rebate@mcn.net>
Big Timber, MT USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 19:28:36 (MDT)
I didn't know that Rick....thanks for the info. And they say drinking beer burns up brain cells!? Ha! Ha! Gale
Gale Beard <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 06:41:41 (MDT)
You bet Gale those Bud drinkers pull the whole tab off and use a can opener also that a lot of metal gone. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I like that Miller Lite.
Rick England
USA - Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 05:31:48 (MDT)
hey dennis, didn't see your entry the other night. gald you logged on. it just get better.talk to you later. wink
wink <cobra129th@aol.com>
USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 21:50:59 (MDT)
Rick, I've got to start recycling them Miller Lite cans.....do they really get more than Bud cans?? I'm glad that I'm retired so I can drink more Miller Lite and make more money!!! Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In US of A - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 16:22:44 (MDT)
Thanks to everybody who has welcomed me home over the past week. It's been great!I am now in the process of trying to contact the small museum where I lived in Marysville,CA before I moved to Florida.I donated the 71/72 yearbook to them but I have recently found out that they want to return all items to there owners. For those of you might care or are just curious, after Vietnam I went Stateside for a few years then to Germany with a new MOS. It was there that I found out I had a serious Heart Condition I was shipped back to the states operated on and retired. Since then I have been active in the Trucking Industry up to my current job as Safety Director for a Florida based company. I commute to work almost daily on my Intruder and ride as much as I can. any questions???
Dennis Fuerstenau <dfuerst_2000@yahoo.com>
Davenport, FL USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 16:21:04 (MDT)
I've been doing that for years Robbie never did believe in stocks. The only thing is I get more money out of Miller beers than wisebuzzered. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
Rick England <bd431>
USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 15:11:46 (MDT)
Rick England. I loved your posting about all the interesting questions about the helicopter and such. I have one here that i will post for all the people that invested some money in stocks.. Hope everyone is well.. Mark Jackson I went on a 600 plus mile trip this past weekend Up around the St. Lawrence seaway and watched some big ships come through the Eisenhower Lock. They won't let you close to the ships now. Fences keeping every one at a safe distance. Probably a good thing. Came back down through the Adirondack Mountains. I've probably got 2500 miles or better on the bike this year. Saw a lot of country this year from the Gulf Bay in Mobile Alabama to the St. Lawrence Seaway as far North as you can go in New York. If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00. With Worldcom, you would have less than $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock) one year ago, drunk all the beer, then turned in the cans for the 5 cent deposit, you would have $ 120 .00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester , NY USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 09:17:20 (MDT)
Flight: Well want to Welcome Home Dennis and Ray. Well, wanted to let everyone know. Walmart has the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Throw. You need to get one. We raffled one off at the reunion this year. Liz bought a few to send to the VHCMA Brothers that had fallen to illness. Oh! Chris has a set up on the VHCMA web site with the names of our Brothers that have fallen to a serious illness. Would appreciate if some of you can drop these Brothers a line. Would mean alot to them and their family's. Alot of commo lately. Looking forward to a bigger and better year. Take care Brothers and Sisters. Always A Brother!! Alex
Alex <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Memphis, TN. USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 08:25:25 (MDT)
I recieved this from a pilot I thought the flight might enjoy. 1. Why did they call it Collective Pitch? I never collected any. Usually ran out of it about the same time as altitude and airspeed. 2. Why didn't Ma Bell add more left pedal and aft cyclic? I always had lots of right pedal and forward cyclic. It seems like they could have reduced those and added to the ones we needed. 3. Why did they put the only radio (KY-28) that had to be recovered if you went down in the most inaccessible part of the aircraft? 4. Why did the pilots have armored seats but the Chief and Gunner didn't? 5. Why did situations that called for all the torque the engine could produce also require full use of the anti-torque pedal followed by that damn flashing red light? (Seems contradictory) 6. Why did they call them Hammer-Head stalls? Maybe because only a hammer head would try one in a helicopter. 7. Why did I always get an aircraft with a major 1 to 1 when I had a hangover? (For you non-rotor heads, a "1 to 1" is a vertical vibration that pounds you into the seat and quakes through your body one time for each revolution of the main rotor - usually at a rate of app. 294-324 RPM, and the faster you fly, the harder it pounds After a while it begins to hurt, ---even if you don't have a hangover.) 8. Why didn't Ma Bell make the skin out of duct tape so it would match the patches? 9. Why did they make a main rotor system that could cut down small Sequoia trees, and a tail rotor system that self-destructed if it encountered anything bigger than a bumblebee? 10. Why were they called landing skids? Were they intended for landing or skidding? 11. Why did the amount of time I had to spend in an LZ increase exponentially with the amount of fire I was receiving? 12. Why didn't 33 beer taste any better cold than it did hot? 13. Why did the smoke from the s**t barrel always blow towards my tent/hooch? 14. Why was the PX always out of everything on my day off? And the biggest question of all....... 15. Why does a Bell helicopter have unusual noises that can only be heard at night or while in the clouds?
Rick England <bd431@mindspring.com>
Wittmann, AZ USA - Monday, July 22, 2002 at 06:03:31 (MDT)
WHAZZ HAPPENING FLIGHT, GREAT GROUP PICTURE,I LAUGHT MY ASS OFF WHEN I SAW IT.GREAT JOB.I RAN INTO ANOTHER BROTHER FROM THE 129TH AT ONE OF THE LOCAL GAS STATIONS A FEW DAYS AGO. HE WAS INSIDE WHEN SOMEONE INSIDE YELLED OUT LOOK AT THAT CORVETT,WHILE I WAS SITTING IN MY VET HE WALK OUT TO ME ASKING WHEN I WAS WITH THE 129TH, I KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT HE SAW MY FRONT PLATE I'D GOTTEN AT LAST YAERS REUNION AND WHICH I HAD PUT 129TH COBRA'S ON IT.HE INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO ME BUT AS ALWAYS I FORGOT HIS NAMEBUT I DID GIVE HIM THE 129TH WEB SITE ADDRESS, MY AN PHONE NUMBERAND OF CORUSE I INFORMED HIM OF THE CREW MEMBERS ORG. AN OUR REUNIONS.I SEE NOBODY NEW ON THE WEB SITEBUT I HOPE HE LOGS ON SOON.NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD MEET ANOTHER BOTHER FROM THE 129TH THAT WAY,I WAS SURPRISED AGAIN A GREAT PICTURE I'LL HAVE TO GET MY KIDS TO LOG ON SO THEY CAN SEE IT. THEY'LL LOVE IT. THAT'S ALL FOLKS WINK 3/69- 10/70
BARRY WINKLER <COBRA129TH@AOL.COM>
LAKELAND, FL 33801 - Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 23:40:39 (MDT)
WHAZZZZZZ HAPPENING FLIGHT,
BARRY WINKLER <COBRA129TH@AOL.COM>
LAKELAND, FL 33801 - Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 22:56:44 (MDT)
Good Morning Flight, Well we made it to the Pop-A-Top in Coldwater and it was all good. Like Kim told you, Mark and Dee, WE`LL BE BACK for a longer stay. As we were leaving, it dawn on Kim, She went to bible school camp at Lake St. Mary`s in the summer`s of her childhood. And Kim`s parents knowing the family that owned the "hardware store" across the street from the" The Top". Also Kim`s uncle "Trap Shoots" with a farmer from the Coldwater area. The go to Vandelia,Ohio just north of Dayton. So it`s a small world. Kim couldn`t believe I sit there for 4 hours drinking cokes and talking. Well not in a bar!!!!!! . We`ll get a room in Celina, because Kim snores " big time " and I get up at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning and smoke. Then I go back to bed. But that`s to much to ask of someone to deal with that for a couple days. Really!!!!!!! Besides a" couple days" is all you could handle of me. Kim said," You would drive Mark and Dee crazy when you get on a roll". Also we will be at the reunion in 2003 in Atlanta, Kim promised you that!!!!!!!! The Top really surprized me, it`s like a "Hard Rock Cafe" with a 129th theme. The bar stool`s are not to high, so if a person falls off, they don`t have far to go!!!! I like that alot!!!!! I couldn`t get over how much memorabalia there is from the 129th. Plus I signed the flag, on the right side of Cups!!!!!!! On the way home, we both were wishing we had stayed in Ohio a little longer. We may come back in the fall. I love" Ohio High School football" and Coldwater has a good team. They made the play-offs last year. Mark and Dee thank you for wonderful hospitality and the shirts and refrig magnets and tokens(Pop-A-Top coins). Like I said," I`ll BE BACK!!!!!!!! Freddie
Freddie Skaggs <ac459429@earthlink.net>
Raleigh, N.C. USA - Sunday, July 21, 2002 at 08:20:02 (MDT)
Hi Don, glad that I got to meet you in Phoenix. Dennis...Welcome Home!! Everyone keep showing your 129th memorabalia, whether it's plates, shirts, hats or a sticker on your car....they will eventually catch someones eye. Thanks Alex, I'm glad you liked the "Wink Look" on our group photo. I just couldn't resist it. Mark, thanks to you also for your kind words....maybe I just have too much time on my hands. I can't lay in the pool and sip on "JP/4" all summer long ya know. Matter of fact, Debbie has had to hook me a few times already and drag me out when she gets home from work. Hope I can make it to the Pop-A-Top soon and I hope that I can get Thad Czuba (Indy) to join me. Has anyone heard from Gus lately? Clear left Brothers & sisters! Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In US of A - Saturday, July 20, 2002 at 10:49:51 (MDT)
Dennis, WELCOME HOME!!! this page gets pretty active sometimes. it is nice to talk to everyone. and I was lucky enough to go to the reunion in June and meet new brothers and chat with old ones.( no pun intended ) send Mark your info and he can add you to the contacts page. Later, Don, Mar 69 - 70
Don Miller <hogleg13244@aol.com>
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Friday, July 19, 2002 at 22:29:57 (MDT)
Greetings, Thanks to Barry Winkler, I found this site and I glad I did.I did my time with the 129th from 11/71-11/72. Spent my time between the 2nd Plt and the Supply Rm. I have now spent 2 nights just reading everything and checking out the pictures. I'll try to make a long story short. I was having lunch on 7/18 and the people at the Blimpies(counter Girls) were making comments about a Corvette at the curb, I turned to look and that is when I saw the license plate on Barry's Car. I told myself NO WAY, ran outside to make an intro, Barry was a wealth of info. It turns out I almost didn't go back to work cuz I was pretty overwhelmed. 31 years is a long time of shutting things out, Thanks Barry!!!!.
Dennis Fuerstenau <dfuerst_2000@yahoo.com>
Davenport, FL USA - Friday, July 19, 2002 at 20:49:14 (MDT)
Hello to all just want to say hello I have some pic to add to Gallaey and need to know how to get added to contact list Mark I search for that pic i know its here it makes me feel so bad I cant find I had it for over 30 years and looked at it many times I will find thanks every one for listing
Ray Gagner <stilwating@aol.com>
Street, MD USA - Friday, July 19, 2002 at 13:54:08 (MDT)
........Glad that some are seeing the fun that we had in Pheonix....was surly a great time.........Alex....as for as the "WINK LOOK" that we all had............I can not take credit for that, it was done by our one and only 129th guy, Gale Beard. Seems that Gale can do just about anything with the computer.......if ya need anything done, get a hold of him. Remeber my feascol with them damb mice here this year and my "Jack Danials Traps".......Gale sent me a pix of me, and a huge bottle of Jack, with a mouse sneakin' up on me with the caption....."aint no mouse that me and Jack can't tkae care of. it sits on top of the Juke Box in the Pop-A-Top now!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........Credit for the "WINK LOOK" goes to Gale Beard.........THANKS GALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...talk to ya all later..jackson
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 18:56:26 (MDT)
Flight: Well computer back up and running. Trying to catch up on the log. First want to personally thank everyone whom attended LZ PHOENIX. Hope your first time experience was a positive one. But, now is time to be preparing for THE BLOW OUT IN ATLANTA 2003!!!The eastern & middle parts of the country produces the larger reunions. Phoenix reunion was larger than I expected. As soon as I get the hotel and other information I will pass it on. If flying I usually book after the first of the year when prices are there lowest. Now! Mark how did you ever to give us all the "Wink look" in the group picture! That was great. Well my 129th "FAMILY" take care. Always A Brother!! Alex
Alex Fernwalt <afernwal@midsouth.rr.com>
Memphis, Tn. USA - Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 08:47:52 (MDT)
I saw the pictures yesterday-thank you. It was great seeing faces and backs of soldiers I have been communicating with for over 4 years. Anyone have photos of Bernie or Bruno? Mark and Dee, we didn't make the Pop-a-Top last weekend because the talk about such stopped on the site. We figured everyone was trying to get back into their normal life styles after the wonderful re-union and "Jackson-Winkler" dance. Kokomo is coming up and we'll be there. Promise. We'll also give you a ride and leave you stranded again. Always a sister to all Veterans-Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 08:18:32 (MDT)
Evenin' Flight........Images of the 2002 reunion in Phoenix are now up on the front page of the 129th page. Check them Out. ...Jamie and Ron...I will have the photos of the NEW 129th shirts on the page very soon. God Bless ya all.......all is well here........wish the same for all!!!!!!!!........always a brother............Mark
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 17:21:18 (MDT)
Ron and Jamie, Thanks for the great shirts! They arrived today. They are perfect. I hope everyone gets a look at the design and keeps you busy ordering them. It was wonderful to meet you all at the reunion. I can't wait for next year!
Dan Hertlein <dhert10408@aol.com>
Sumner, WA USA - Monday, July 15, 2002 at 21:25:18 (MDT)
Had to pass the humor along, Fred. Thanks for reminding me of the importance of laughter. Sometimes we have to loosen up and just let our heads fall back in complete laughter, today my head fell back!! Thanks, Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
USA - Monday, July 15, 2002 at 08:14:54 (MDT)
Jamie DeBates, I would like one of the Tee shirts with the patch on it. An XL would be good so i can have room to shrink it like i do to all of my shirts when i wash. Any color you have except pink or white would be good. I'll have the check in the mail tomorrow. Please send to Lloyd Robinson 6460 Salmon Creek Road Williamson, NY 14589. Hope It has coold down a bit for you out there. Dave Powers, I will have my pictures from my vacation back on Thursday. Rob
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, ny USA - Monday, July 15, 2002 at 06:27:10 (MDT)
thanks for yesterday mark
fred alvis <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 14:40:40 (MDT)
Subject: Military Humor Subject: Fwd: Military Humor During training exercises, the lieutenant who was driving down a muddy back road encountered another car stuck in the mud with a red-faced colonel at the wheel. "Your jeep stuck, sir?" asked the lieutenant as he pulled alongside. "Nope," replied the colonel, coming over and handing him the keys, "Yours is." **************************** Having just moved into his new office, a pompous, new colonel was sitting at his desk when an airman knocked on the door.Conscious of his new position, the colonel quickly picked up the phone, told the airman to enter, then said into the phone, "Yes General, I'll be seeing him this afternoon and I'll pass along your message. In the meantime, thank you for your good wishes, sir." Feeling as though he had sufficiently impressed the young enlisted man, he asked, "What do you want?" "Nothing important, sir," the airman replied, "I'm just here to hook up your telephone." ********************* On some air bases the Air Force is on one side of the field and civilian aircraft use the other side of the field, with the control tower in the middle. One day the tower received a call from an aircraft asking, "What time is it?" The tower responded, "Who is calling?" The aircraft replied, "What difference does it make?" The tower replied "It makes a lot of difference. If it is an American Airlines flight, it is 3 o'clock. If it is an Air Force plane, it is 1500 hours. If it is a Navy aircraft, it is 6 bells. If it is an Army aircraft, the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 3. If it is a Marine Corps aircraft, it's Thursday afternoon." *********************** Officer: "Soldier, do you have change for a dollar?" Soldier: "Sure, buddy." Officer: "That's no way to address an officer! Now let's try it again!" Officer: "Soldier. Do you have change for a dollar?" Soldier: "No, SIR!" ************************ Q: How do you know if there is a fighter pilot at your party? A: He'll tell you. Q: What's the difference between God and fighter pilots A: God doesn't think he's a fighter pilot. Q: What's the difference between a fighter pilot and a jet engine? A: A jet engine stops whining when the plane shuts down. ************************* Three Marines were walking through the forest when they came upon a set of tracks. The first Marine said, "Those are deer tracks." The second Marine said, "No, those are elk tracks." The third Marine said "You're both wrong, those are moose tracks." The Marines were still arguing when the train hit them. **************************** A Navy Chief and an Admiral were sitting in the barbershop. They were both just getting finished with their shaves, when the barbers reached for some after-shave to slap on their faces. The admiral shouted, "Hey, don't put that stuff on me! My wife will think I've been in a whorehouse!" The chief turned to his barber and said, "Go ahead and put it on. My wife doesn't know what the inside of a whorehouse smells like." **************************** "Well," snarled the tough old Navy Chief to the bewildered Seaman. "I suppose after you get discharged from the Navy, you'll just be waiting for me to die so you can come and piss on my grave." "Not me, Chief!" the Seaman replied. "Once I get out of the Navy, I'm never going to stand in line again
fred alvis <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
indy, in USA - Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 14:39:28 (MDT)
Bury Me With Soldiers "I've played a lot of roles in life; I've met a lot of men. I've done some things I'd like to think I wouldn't do again. And though I'm young, I'm old enough to know some day I'll die, and to think about what lies beyond, Beside whom I would lie. Perhaps it doesn't matter much; Still if I had my choice, I'd want a grave, 'mongst soldiers when At last death quells my voice. I'm sick of the hypocrisy of lectures of the wise. I'll take the man, with all the flaws, Who goes through scared, and dies. The troops I knew were commonplace They didn't want the war; They fought because their Fathers and Their Fathers had before. They Cursed and killed and wept... God Knows They're easy to deride... But bury me with men like these; They faced the guns and died. Its funny when you think of it, The way we got along. We'd come from different worlds To live in one where no one belongs. I didn't even like them all; I'm sure they'd all agree. Yet I would give my life for them, I know some did for me. So bury me with soldiers, please, Though much maligned they be. Yes bury me with soldiers, for I miss their company. We'll not soon see their likes again; We've had our fill of war. But bury me with men like them Till someone else does more." Author Unknow
fred alvis <ghoastrider1@aol.com>
indy, in USA - Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 14:35:54 (MDT)
Normally I wouldn't send this except that it seems so pertinant to us. I thought it wuz funny. Oaths of Enlistments All persons, upon entering the Military Service and upon reenlistment are required to take the Oath of Enlistment. At one time the Oath of Enlistment was the same for all services. Due to changes in both society and the differing Military Branches, the Oath has undergone marked change and has been specifically tailored to each branch of the Military and their specific function. Here are the latest versions of the Oath of Enlistment as recently released by the Joint Chief's of Staff: US AIR FORCE OATH OF ENLISTMENT I, (State your name), swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES AIR FORCE because I know I couldn't hack it in the Army, because the Marines frighten me and I am afraid of water over waist deep. I swear to sit behind a desk. I also swear not to do any form of real exercise, but promise to defend our bike-riding test as a valid form of exercise. I promise to walk around calling everyone by their first name because I find it amusing to annoy the other services. I will have a better quality of life than those around me and will, at all times, be sure to make them aware of that fact. After completion of "Basic Training" I will be a lean, mean, donut-eating, lazy-boy sitting, civilian-wearing-blue-clothes, Chair-borne Ranger. I will believe I am superior to all others and will make an effort to clean the knife before stabbing the next person in the back. I will annoy those around me, and will go home early every day. So Help Me God! ___________________ Signature ____________________ Date > > > US ARMY OATH OF ENLISTMENT I, Rambo, swear to sign away 4 years of my mediocre life to the UNITED STATES ARMY because I couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to get into the Air Force, I'm not tough enough for the Marines, and the Navy won't take me because I can't swim. I will wear camouflage every day and tuck my trousers into my boots because I can't figure out how to use blousing straps. I promise to wear my uniform 24 hours a day even when I have a date. I will continue to tell myself that I am a fierce killing machine because my Drill Sergeant told me I am, despite the fact that the only action I will see is a Court-Martial for sexual harassment. I acknowledge the fact that I will make E-8 in my first year of service, and vow to maintain that it is because I scored perfect on my PT test. After completion of my Sexual.....er....I mean "Basic Training," I will attend a different Army school every other month and return knowing less than I did when I left. On my first trip home after Boot Camp I will walk around like I am cool and propose to my 9th grade sweetheart. I will make my wife stay home because if I let her out she might leave me for a better-looking Air Force guy. Should she leave me twelve times I will continue to take her back. While at work,I will maintain a look of knowledge while getting absolutely nothing accomplished. I will arrive to work every day at 1000 hrs because of morning PT and leave everyday at 1300 to report back to "COMPANY." I understand that I will undergo no training whatsoever that will help me get a job upon separation, and will end up working construction with my friends from high school. I will brag to everyone about the Army giving me $30,000 for college, but will be unable to use it because I can't pass a placement exam.So Help Me God! _____________________ Signature _____________________ Date > > US NAVY OATH OF ENLISTMENT I, Top Gun, in lieu of going to prison, swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES NAVY, because I want to hang out with Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," because I didn't want to actually live in dirt like the Army, and because I thought, "Hey, I like to swim...why not?" I promise to wear clothes that went out of style in 1976 and to have my name stenciled on the butt of every pair of pants I own. I understand that I will be mistaken for the Good Humor Man during summer and for Nazi Waffen SS during the winter. I will strive to use a different language than the rest of the English speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover,gee dunk, scuttlebutt, scuttle and head," when I really mean "floor,wall,hat, candy, water fountain, hole in wall and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Navy acronyms, rank, and insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I will muster, whatever that is, at 0700 every morning unless I am buddy-buddy with the Chief, in which case I will show up around 0930. I vow to hone my coffee cup handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a kayak being tossed around in a typhoon, and still not spill a drop. I consent to being promoted and subsequently busted at least twice per fiscal year. I realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my newfound "colleagues."So Help Me Neptune! ______________________ Signature ______________________ Date > US MARINE CORPS OATH OF ENLISTMENT I, (have someone recite your name for you),swear..uhhhh....high-and-tight...grunt...cammies....ugh...Air Force women.... OORAH! So Help Me CORPS! X____________________ Thumb Print
Larry A. Kwiatkowski <Chrger66@aol.com>
Simi Valley, CA United States - Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 17:23:49 (MDT)
HET MARK, MADE IT HOME,OK. HAD A GREAT TIME AT THE POPN TOP,I WAS GALD I MADE THE TRIP,IT MADE THE REUNION COMPLETE.MARK ROLED OUT THE RED CARPET AN I MEAN RED CARPET.MET HIS MOM AN DAD GRAET PEOPLE.MEET ALOT OF MARKS FRIENDS,GREAT PEOPLE.LOVED THE POP N TOP GREAT ATMOSPHERE,BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES,LOVED IT.TO ALL,MARK IS SETTING UP A REUNOIN FOR THE 129TH IN AUGUST OF 2003 MY ADVICE IS BE THERE,THATS ALL I WILL SAY. MARK@DEE THANKS FOR A GREAT TIME LOVE YOU BOTH@I WILL RETURN. WINK 3/69-10/70 FROM 010 WITH LOVE
BARRY WINKLER <COBRA129TH@AOL.COM>
LAKELAND, FL 33801 - Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 10:18:51 (MDT)
Good evening all - hope everyone is ready for a great weekend. It's 106 here - a record for Montana. Yuk. About the shirts for those who don't know. I had t-shirts done up with the 129th patch embroidered on the front; the same patch that I had embroidered on the hats. I sent photos of the shirts to Mark for the website. You have options about short-sleeves, long-sleeves for colder days (please...) and undoubtedly I will get some sweatshirts done up later on. I can get anything done in a few days from a veteran here in our little town. Great little shop. Shirts are $21 and that includes shipping. I used Ron's patch, so the bulldog might not be exactly perfect for everyone - but that's what I got. Be safe this weekend - God Bless You All. Jamie DeBates
Jamie DeBates <rebate@mcn.net>
Big Timber, MT USA - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 18:37:57 (MDT)
hello to all my brothers I just came in to say hello I went to VA Drs they said I need a shrink so i og on the july of 31 we see what happend I need to ask about the 129th shirts how to get one I love to get one I tell youall it so good to hear from u all Iam not the best speller I give the spel check a hard way to go at times it comes up blank oh well I have to learn what to say here and get to hnow you all Ray a proud member or the 129th
Ray Gagner <stilwaiting@aol.com>
street, MD USA - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 16:10:21 (MDT)
Robbie- A Grand Junction, Colorado veterans group also took an old Huey and mounted it in the air above their recently completed memorial... can't wait to see it! Howdy to everyone!
Dave Powers <powers@montrose.net>
Montrose, Colorado USA - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 07:25:59 (MDT)
Jim Westwang.... That was a good Kickass story. I got a chuckle out of that. Ron/Jamie DeBates, I saw something about different shirts?? If you do have pictures, would you email me so i could see what they look like? I need another 129th shirt. My others have coffee and beer etc stains. Must have a problem with hitting my mouth every now and then. Mark Jackson, are you going to replace the Harley? I took some pictures of the Vietnam Memorial in Mobile which my friend Frank Tolbert and some other vets spent a whole summer creating. They Mounted a UH1H on a steel pole and there is a sensor on it and when you get close, it sounds like it's passing over head. They had to take everything they could out of it to make it lighter and that is why i now have a Cyclic stick to donate to the Pop-A-Top. Hope all is well with the 129th Brothers and Sisters. Rob
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester, NY USA - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 06:40:48 (MDT)
Greetings to you and your guests. Love what youíve done with your site. As an educator I can say you have great communication skills.
Catherine
La Mesa, Ca US - Friday, July 12, 2002 at 00:28:45 (MDT)
Shirt update - Alex, Dan H, Kal - your shirts went out in the mail yesterday, 7/10/02. Watch for a big envelope any day! Jim W - are you coming our way this summer? Did you take your annual trek over the holiday? Please know we'd love to see you at the door anytime! Be well all, still feeling the great high of LZ Phoenix. Jamie and Ron
Jamie DeBates <rebate@mcn.net>
BIG TIMBER, MT USA - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 09:20:01 (MDT)
Thank you Mr., I mean, Jim. Made me smile. Now I have to go out and buy some "ass kicking" boots! Gently
Gently <jsinger@uwm.edu>
Milwaukee, USA - Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 06:44:57 (MDT)
THIS WAS SENT TO ME BY A FRIEND & I THOUGHT YOU ALL MIGHT ENJOY IT: Dear Civilians We know that the current state of affairs in our great nation have many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military. For those of you who can't join, you can still lend a hand. Here are a few of the areas we would like your assistance with: 1) The next time you see an adult talking during the playing of the National anthem.....kick their ass. 2) When you witness firsthand someone burning the American Flag in protest...kick their ass. 3) Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the highest amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing otherwise, quietly pull them aside and explain how these Veterans fought for the very freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices these Veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while the Veteran kicks their ass. 4) If you are not in the military, DO NOT pretend that you are. Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDU's), telling others that you used to be "Special Forces," and collecting GI Joe memorabilia might have been okay if you were still seven, but now it will only get your ass kicked. (Veterans are exempt from this rule) 5) If you witness someone calling an enlisted Marine "Sir," stand back.....a Marine will kick their ass. 6) Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them "Do you fly a jet?" Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance deserves an ass kickin (children are exempt). 7) Roseanne Barr's singing of the National Anthem is not a blooper....it was a disgrace and disrespectful. Laugh, and sooner or later your ass will be kicked. 8) Next time Old Glory prances by during a parade, get on your damn feet and pay homage to her by placing your hand over your heart and quietly thank the military member or veteran lucky enough to be carrying her......of course, failure to do either of those will earn you a severe ass kicking. 9) What Jane Fonda did during the Vietnam War makes her the enemy. The proper word to describe her is "traitor." . . . Hate her or else (asses will be kicked). 10) Don't try to discuss politics with a military member or a veteran. We are Americans and we all bleed the same regardless of our party affiliation. Our Chain of Command, to include our Commander in Chief...the President... (for those who didn't know) is all that we acknowledge. We have no inside track on what happens inside those big important buildings where all those "representatives" meet. All we know is that when those civilian representatives screw up the situation, they call upon the military to go straighten it out. The military member might direct you to Oliver North. (I can see him kicking your ass already.) 11) "Your mama wears combat boots" never made sense to me....stop saying it! If she did, she would most likely kick your ass! 12) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists, so stop saying "Let's go kill those Commie's!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me ... if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers; let me know, so I can go kick their ass. 13) Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of the military, support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and Christmas that you enjoy with family and friends please remember that there are, literally, thousands of troops overseas wishing they could be with their families. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they make every day. Without them, our country would get its ass kicked.
jim Westwang <westwang@fiberpipe.net>
Sheridan, wy USA - Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 20:52:04 (MDT)
Thanks Mark. As soon as I saw the definition, it popped right back into my head. Your site helped me here. I just got an e-mail from Joe DePuglia.(another pilot) He found me on this site. Man, I been lookin for this guy ever since I got out. Sure wuz good to hear from him and find out he's doin' ok. ok, well, 60 kts., rotor in the green, prepare to flare. out.
Larry Kwiatkowski <chrger66@aol.com>
Simi Valley, CA USA - Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 15:12:26 (MDT)
...Yo larry.......Ba Juses man.....GIB, if I am not misatkin' means "Guys In Back". referin' to the Crew chief and the Doorgunners....is I not right, Flight???????......and GIF ment, "Guys in Front", as the AC and the PP!!!!!!!!/////Correct!?????....Now hear this FLIGHT......Mr barry Winkler,,,,,,,,YES.....MY DANCE PARTNER IN PHOENIX.....is now fast asleep in our basement......he rolled in from no where tonight and will be spending the next few days with us............this is cool as hell............Barry is good stuff for me........and it feels so good tio have a 129th guy im our house.........took him to the Pop-A-Top fer a short spell earlier...........we close the place together..........I am happy..........se ya more later and will have Barry get on here and ytack at ya all in the next few days.............."257".out.............clear left.........lets go home Larry.....always a brother........and sister........Mark ad Dee
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 23:21:44 (MDT)
Hey Flight!!! Just checkin' in. Nuthin in particular to say. Oh, I am having a senior moment though. For the life of me, I just can't remember what "GIB" stands for. Guess I killed to many brain cells. hehehe. Ah well, turning right at the beacon, skids down and locked.
Larry Kwiatkowski <chrger66@aol.com>
Simi Valley, CA USA - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 21:47:42 (MDT)
Gale! How nice of you to remember my Marine Viet Nam Veteran, Tom. He ended up with a sentence of 1 1/2 years. The judge was going to give him three but cut it in half when he found out Tom, was(I know, is!!! Once a marine always a Marine!) a Veteran Marine. He's in Racine, Wi. House of Correction, which is just south of Milwaukee. We're waiting for all the visitation paperwork to be processed so we can visit him. He's doing OK. He hates the fact that he tried to control his life and his drinking by himself-he knows there's more to it than that, but got drunnk, got stupid, got caught, got 1 1/2 years. It's as simple as that. Now he sits and I miss him very much...very much. He was a dear friend, like a brother, and very kind. But what a stupid@#^%*()() jerk! By the way-because Ron Paye is to-o-o busy to drop us a line...I"ll tell you what he's up to: He's grabbing himself a "gal" and heading to Canada for a week cruising the waterways on a big(&$$# boat. We wish you a safe and fun filled trip, Mr. Paye, sir. Marky Mark-looking for those reunion photos :>)))) Love you guys-Gently
Gently
USA - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 13:25:39 (MDT)
Bless you Judith ;) ....I've been meaning to ask you how your friend is doing that some of us wrote to a few months ago? Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <beardatpaige1@cs.com>
Clinton, In US of A - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 23:04:21 (MDT)
Well, my dear friends. It's time for pride. At our Fourth of July parade this year the Viet Nam Vets were the first military group to pass the crowds-----you were the first the crowds(and there were thousands) rose to greet---the first they clapped for----said "thank you" to, and in some cases the Viet Nam Veterans saw eyes welled with tears. Eyes that were in the crowds. I know many of you still feel cheated, and you were, but there is Viet Nam Veteran healing going on all over this planet: this web site; the "Wall" in D.C.; or where ever the traveling "Wall" is displayed in this great old U.S. of A.; at Unit reunions; PTSD groups, Parades, and on and on. Please know that the thousands who showed up on 7/4/2002 in Milwaukee cheered for you guys, and welcomed you home. I've been in many parades over the last two years and the respect and response you guys gather grows every year. Please know that times are changing-know you are loved and respected. The fact that there are so many wanna be's out there is indictative of the respect you are getting. But if you haven't walked in a parade as a Viet Nam Veteran, you might not know of these changes. Trust me-And walk taller men-you're Viet Nam Veterans! And you are loved. Gently
Gently
Milwaukee, USA - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 15:06:24 (MDT)
My address is 20417 Denver Hill Wittmann Az 85361
Rick England <bd431@mindspring.com>
USA - Monday, July 08, 2002 at 12:29:43 (MDT)
TOM SHANAHAN IF YOU WILL PROVIDE ME WITH A POSTAL ADDRESS I WILL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION WE DISCUSSED. I ENJOYED SEEING YOU ALL THE REUNION. BEST REGARDS JOE J
JOE JOHNSON <cobra073@yahoo.com>
morongo va , Calif USA - Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 14:43:21 (MDT)
Hello to all my brothers Iam Ray Gagner was in Viet nam from 69 70 I was so glad to here from you who remebed me I to tryed for years to get a hold od robbie as I was his gunner He reminded me of some of the good times we had Like when I tryed to out drink Larry Jackson I lost big time dont rember much but he could put then down I hope to hear from more as tome gose on I belibe its helping me a lot I thank you all but I must give a spicial thanks to ( ACo27thcombatEng ) his name is Vinnie for he helpe me find you all As you all can se iam not much on spelling but I do care for u all OH Robbie is right I didntlike lifes lol and I have not changed I do same thing now to my bosses well I went on enough I do hope to stay in touch with all of u thanks ray Gagner Stilwating@aol.com I live in Maryland phone is 410 836 3319
Ray Gagner <stilwating@aol.com>
Street, Md USA - Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 13:31:19 (MDT)
Mark and all - will send photo of shirts this weekend. Long and short sleeved, etc. Did you get the pictures I left on the table in the 129th hospitality room? I printed a bunch off in our room and left them early Saturday morning before we headed for LA. Still reeling from our trip. Totally awesome adventure for us both. Glad that Ron's only regret is not having more time there. Another year. God Bless You All - forgot to ask - Mark, did you manage to take care of the little mouse issue before you left for Phoenix?? Jamie DeBates
Jamie DeBates <rebate@mcn.net>
Big Timber, MT USA - Saturday, July 06, 2002 at 06:18:03 (MDT)
Well, from reading all of the commo in here about the reunion, it sounds like everyone had a good time. Mark, i'm sorry some low life son-of-a-bitch stole your bike. Especially with Larry's wings on the thing. I have mine pinned to my jacket and i'm always worried about them coming off or someone lifting my jacket when i'm not looking. Sorry i couldn't be there you all at the reunion, but i was visiting family and friends down south. I loaded the bike up in the back of the truck and went to Virginia to visit my brother and then he and i drove the truck to Jacksonville Fla. to visit our sister. I unloaded the bike and my brother took it back to Virginia and i rode to Mobile Ala. to visit a friend I was stationed at Ft. Hood with and hadn't seen him for 31 years. Me and him and mr Jack Daniels stayed up most of the night laughing and recalling old times. After i left his house I had about 950 miles to ride back to Virginia again. Spent some more time with my brother and we played some more golf and then before i knew it, i was back here at work. Ray Gagner, i can't tell you how good it was to finally hear from you. I had been trying to find Ray for years with no luck. He was my gunner while i was crewing in Nam. Ray was always quick to call a Lifer a Lifer to his face. Got some strange looks from Colonels and higher. Ray, i hope everything works out for you and will definately keep in touch. I guess i've rambled on long enough so I hope all the 129th brothers and sisters are well. ROBBIE
Robbie <hobbes@kodak.com>
Rochester , NY USA - Friday, July 05, 2002 at 07:59:44 (MDT)
Ray if you need any help getting started with the VA let us know some of us have been and are now involved w/them people. Sometimes it helps to have a little backing in this situation. Rick England 129th AHC Bull Dog 431 The Iron Butterfly RVN Jan 68 Jan 69
Rick England <bd431@mindspring.com>
Wittmann, AZ USA - Friday, July 05, 2002 at 04:21:49 (MDT)
........up late.........cant sleep tonight.............mind is in a buzz...........LZ PHOENIX went way to fast for me............all the waiting......and poof, its over.....wanted to talk more with more......wanted to hug all more, just want to do more...................ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............best go to bed. Friday tomorrow............band at the joint in the eve............just please, never forget, in a lil' town in Ohio, that there is somebody that thinks and remembers each and everyone of you every day................................good night my love.........Jackson
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 22:34:50 (MDT)
..........HEY ALL.........SOME WORDS FROM ONE OF OUR BROTHERS THAT WAS LOST, BUT NOW HAS BEEN FOUND Hello I am Ray Gagner I was with the 129th AHC from April of 1969 to April of 1970 For years I felt I hide in Darknenss for what happen in Viet Nam But A few weeks ago I met a man named Vince who has given me a mach to light a candel so I could see He to was in Viet Nam and he is know as,,, Aco27thCombatEng and with that candle he has shown me the way to find my friends I was in Vietnam with and as I callsome one by one the light seemed to have gotten brighted with eack one who called me back for itgave me hope Then I spoke to the Brother of a friend named mark Jackson the Brother of a friend who I was to fly with but I was writing a note to my girl friend so a friend named Steve Heargrave said he would take my place And they never came back for the ship crashed and all were killed How bad I felt when they told me I since talked to Charles.rainey@fuse.net know better as (BUD) and as we spoke I felt so bad for he had to go to the mountain and put there bodies in bags and when we talked a tear came to my eye for it should have been me but He told me The The lord must have other plans for me but just to talk to him made the candele brighter so with that he have me Marks pkone number and I callled an spoke to his daughter and told her whoI was andI made her a promise that I would go toDC and take a pic of her uncles name and this I will do She said her Dad would call and lord and behold he did I had to hold back tears for I have opened a wound and my heart went out to him And once again the candel burned brighter fot then I called one named Smiley but I must have copyed his E mail wrongbut I did talk to him and the cande; burned brighter And now today I got A Email from Pete Rhome (pbulldog216@mSN.com) And tonight I heard from MY crew chife I was his gunner he calles and now the candle burend so bright it seemed to light up the sky for he talked about the good times we had how I tryed to out Drink Larry Jackson but didnt ;-) Robbie and I were good friends he is know as (hobbes@kotak.com)As you can see I can't sleep to night for some reason un know to me the Darkness stars to take over me for I feel our Govement didnt care whn w came home for un like the Gulf War and Desert Storm ans one going on now They all came back as heros And Well we were cast aside when we returned home some were spit upon and called baby killes Yes I seem to be mixed but the only ones who realy cares for us all is all of us our slefs our brothers for we have each other and we shall help each other forever Well my brothera I hope I didnt not bore you nor I hope I didnt make a fool of me but I just could not sleep so I got up and wrote thisfor give me if I said something wrong and hurt any one you all take care my brothers your brother Ray Yes Iam have a hard time dealing with this sorry ok all who know me know I never stay up so lateI hope u all get to read for all of you made the candel brightfor it my darkness that srounds it and I must seek help as of july 3 Iam going to VA maybe night mears will stop God Bless you all Ray Gagner 12:31AM june 30th 2002
Mark Jackson
USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 12:28:52 (MDT)
.........also.......Ron and Jamie..........in the next few days will work on getting the pix that you sent me on the wweb page along with some of mine!!!!!!!!!!..and yes...the Pop-A-Top is in Ohio!!!!....BILL WOLF....YOU OK OUT THERE????????> Talk to us brother!!!!!!!!.......EVERYBODY...Tom Holthaus, that check in the other day in the cousin of Elmer Holthaus that was in the 129th the same time Larry was. Matter of fact, Elmer and Larry did Ft. Eustis together also..........shot Elmers AR 15 out his front door while we were there , So Did Dee. First time she ever shot a gun....She said her ears rang for about an hour after that..he,he,he,he,........she says, No wonder none of them Nam vets can hera anymore...he,he,he,he.,,,,,,,,,everybody say "WHAT"???????????????;-))))))))))))))......have some new guys that have signed in the flight log book while we were gone......will work on getting them in the CONTACTS section yet today......CLEAR LEFT..................CUPS.......you OK man.........Dee and I both thought that you were kinda subdued this year in PHOENIX.............talk to us brother!!!!!!!!!!!!....MATT CASEY........all ok your way?????????.............Mark and Dee
Mark Jackson
USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 12:19:43 (MDT)
.....John Dillman......good to hear from you again in here.............Gale and Debbie.....glad ya made it home safe..........cool story about the 129th patch.......Mike Barret...also good to hear from you also........is proff that not all talk in here, but mnay read, and thats OK!!!!.......I know that the page is good for all!!!!!!!!. RON and Jamie.........glad that you are safe and sound.........was a pleasure to meat both of you and finally Bill Wolf knows who the one picture is of that he didnt know for so long......Hey you two......send me a picture of the shirts that you had made and if possible we will offer them on the web page...................
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
LZ HOME, USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 12:08:43 (MDT)
...........Steve Combs. Thanks for stopin' in the Flight Log Book. It was good to see you in the Pop-A-Top. Remember this brother, there is always a place that will never forget what you did for our FREEDOM while on your tour of the Nam. Thanks man. Come and see us again!!!!!!!!!!!.........OMA GUMA???????????. I probably do know who you are, but that must be some kind of a code name or something. I can not figure out who you may be. Write to me via a back channel.......anyways....as far as the Bike........I am afraid that it is now in a couple of thousand pieces by now............had to be an inside job with a tip off from a Hotel worker......and surly was not another biker. Bikers dont steal others bikes. They know what the bike means to the rider..........ya know..........I can rebuild a new "257".....am over the fact that it is gone......BUT......I had Larry's Crew Chief Wings that came home with him on the seat and they are probably in a trash can some where in St Louis now...............the loss of them hurt me more then anything..............AND.....who ever took the bike, if they aint dead already, I have faith that Larry knows who they are, and will haunt them the rest of their lives......But OMA GUMA, Thanks for the offer of your help and your friends. Still cant figure out who you are though!!!!!!!!!!!!...But thanks anyways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sooooooooooooooo..Freddie boy............Tied one on for the 4th huh?????;-)))))))))))).......good so did I.......did not work the bar....stayed home..........me and the niegbors litea shit load of gun powder round here. Show goes on for a couple of hours. Fireworks are illeagal in Ohio, but we have diplimatic ammunity here. Live right next to a 100 acre field. The custodian of the loacl bastill sets a block away and watchs the show himself.......we are the second biggest fireworks show in town only surpassed by the big pinic the town puts on in august.....right before the grand fanally, I went out and pulled my flag poll down, and walked in into the back yards. couple of hundred people there. I ask them all to stand and say the pledge of aliaegeince with me...........including the words. "UNDER GOD"!!!!!!!!!!!!....Hey Freddie Boy.......willbe great to meet you .........what the hell day ya comin' , cause some others have talked about a 129th Mini here when you come.........Speak up Freddie;-))))))))....to all of you......GOD BLESS ya all. have great 4th.......be careful..............THANKS for the wonderful time in PHOENIX.and all the gifts........JOE J, RON M., DAN H...........and all...everyhting that was givin' to me already has a place in the POP-A-TOP!!!!!!!!!! ..........."257".....turning inbound to the beacon, and climbing to 6,000FT.......always a brother and sister,..........Mark and Dee.........
Mark Jackson <fourfour@bright.net>
LZ HOME, USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 11:58:31 (MDT)
Mark, Thanks for the hospitality at PoP a Tops this past week. You have made Larry proud by what you are doing in his memory and in regonition of all vets. Keep up the good work.
Steve Combs <frayne@bright.net>
Wapakoneta, Ohio USA - Thursday, July 04, 2002 at 06:30:58 (MDT)
Mark, I have Yugo-Slav Mafia friends, that are more than willing to help you. Your bike , more than likely is in South America or, Eastern Europe. You know who I am................... Contact Me...............................
Oma Guma
USA - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 23:06:50 (MDT)
WHAT`S UP.............. I`m very drunk tonight................ So What.................. I`m north bound, next week............. Comin home to Ohio ..............What`s that girl`s name............. Rouputa the buita............I`m comin home Mark............... Kim Said......... Lock the doors in Ohio............. Freddies`s comin home............. We`re let it roll in the PoP-A- Top on Saturday night.....................Freddies is gonna be,,hockin, slockin and Rockin, at the PoP-A-Top. Like Kim says " Kick out the Jams M-ther F--kers. Yes we`re comin home...... . I`m still around.................
Fred Skaggs <ac459429@earthlink.net>
Raleigh, N.C. USA - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 22:55:49 (MDT)
Mark. sad the heard about the bike. One day you're going to see this jerk show up. Michael Barrett CE 698, 693 UNCLE SLICK P.S. MY nephew saw 693 at a airshow.
Michael Barrett
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 11:23:31 (MDT)
Sorry flight, brain is quicker than fingers. VFW National HQ.
John Dillman 129th 11/71-02/72 <jdillman@sbcglobal.net>
kc, mo USA - Monday, July 01, 2002 at 17:39:25 (MDT)
Gale, the guy's name is Will Merrill. I met him in the Army while I was on a terminal assignment in KC. I retired here, and he stayed in the Reserve and has recently been promoted to LTC. He worked here in KC for Ford Motor Co., then got transferred to Cleaveland. He has just recently be transferred to St. Louis. He has spent many weekend here while attending drill, so he knows all my wall hangings (patches and such). Anyway strange how things work sometimes. It was great to talk to you on the phone. I'm originally from AZ. and my folks still live there. I had intended to make the reunion, but it didn't work out. I will be in Atlanta for sure. Oh, I work for the VFW Nation HQ here, so if there is ever anything I can help you with let me know, that goes for the flight as well. Anyway it was great talking to you and hope to meet you in Atlanta. Clear left.
John Dillman 129th 11/71-02/72 <jdillman@sbcglobal.net>
kc, mo USA - Monday, July 01, 2002 at 17:34:33 (MDT)