Gently; I would like more information on the Gold Star moms 9/26 here locally (GA). Website has limited info, any suggestions? God Bless...D Wells
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 22:20:26 (MDT)
If our house just had red tile floors and we kept everything in foot and/or wall lockers I would need no help. Got real good at that at Ft Wolters. Anyone know where I can get a good used buffer and a piece of old OD blanket? I also vote NO to the political forum. But please everyone look at who is for limiting the dollar amount of medical malpractice Torts- if something is soon not done there will be real problems finding health care. Don't get me wrong-if mistakes are made people must be held accountable but within reason. Doctors are closing up shop in many states at an alarming rate because they can not afford or even get insurance. I am making this an apolitical statement-not taking party sides. It is just a problem we must deal with for our children and grand children etc!
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 21:50:45 (MDT)
I've been away for a few days and turning to the flight log is like turning on a blender. Lots of heated input. My two cents: Politics isn't worth the risk to what this site is all about. Take your soapboxes to a streetcorner. Alvis, you ARE this site to me! Don't let some smartass feeding off the past keep you from living in the present and living for the future. Your words are magic. We all want you to keep sharing them. Let us hear from you...Ann
Ann Buslee <email@example.com
Ladysmith, WI USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 21:23:32 (MDT)
I Appreciate all your comments. I was not trying to bring politics into the log. If you ever get to know me better, I enjoy humor. With all the Negative stuff concerning Candy and Alvis, I was trying to get a laugh going. And Jeff have your wife get ahold of my wife and she will guide yours in the principles of S&M&V (that is sweep,mop,and vac for you non perverts). :) LOL Alvis I know you got a chucle out of it!!!! Take Care. GOD, COUNTRY. HONOR
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 20:54:55 (MDT)
Jim says: "No, there's a time a place for political discussions, and this isn't it. There are enough places to do that, and that's not what this site is about. If you want to voice your opinion on politics, do it in November and vote." Sue says: "No, for anyone who feels strongly about politics, I'm not going to change your opinion, and you will not change mine. There are enough things to chat about w/o politics being involved." We both say: "Thanks for the chance for us to vote, Mark. Let's talk about the things that will draw us together, not pull us apart."
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 20:54:01 (MDT)
By the way, We were looking for a brother that has been given a hard time..... Where is he....... See how we can get off track..... with respect....
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 20:21:42 (MDT)
I Vote NO on all of the questions....... All it will do is cause fights and hurt to each other........ Politics, religion, and someone's elses girlfriend or wife..... All taboo...... With respect......
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 20:16:46 (MDT)
Lets solve this diplomatically with a vote from active members who read in here. 1.... Do you think that this Flight Log Book should to be used to discuss politics. YES or NO.... 2....Do you think that poilitics can be discussed in here without causing Flare Ups? YES or NO....3....Should we change the "Rule" of not having politics in here, to allowing it? YES or NO....Do "YOU" want to be able to discuss politics in here? YES or NO................I am not asking these questions to start a fight. I just want to be fair to all. The main purpose of this sight is to bring us all together, not separate us. If this can accomplished, we grow together................ARCHIE BUNKER for President ;-)....always a brother
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 19:36:36 (MDT)
Fred Alvis, Don't stay away. As for the very rude, uncalled for and selfish comments of Candy. I ditto what everyone else has said!!!!! For whoever was talking about S&M&V! I will retire in 91 days. Is there a school or course to take to learn about S&M&V? Skaggs once said he has made Kim a good wife-maybe he can be the instructor! Shadow-do you still live in Columbia- I am just up the street in Charlotte. Everyone take care- Snapper
Lake Norman, NC USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 16:01:51 (MDT)
Rick...the powers that be have asked that we keep the site non political, which is why I don't post any more. Of course, if someone wants to change the rules...I'll be all to happy to discuss the merits of a johnny come lately draft dodger war hawk, vs. a Vietnam veteran who had the guts to speak out about how screwed up that war was!!!!! One of the first jobs I had when I re entered the Army, was guarding Bill Calley, down on Arrowhead Road, Ft. Benning..Regardless of swifty repubpelican's beliefs, American's ARE capable of committing war crimes!!!! Alvis...you still with us??? Mr. Page, I remember you.....hope all is well
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 15:58:09 (MDT)
I'm a liberal and I can honestly say that we don't want "two America's." We have to all realize sooner or later that peace can only be achieved when we are united, not divided! War solves nothing, it only brings more death, destruction, and division! Does anyone on here actually want war? I'm just curious! I pray the answer is a resounding NO, because to want war is just wrong! Terrorism has been with us for thousands of years, it will never go away! When you go to war over it, it just fans the flames and the terrorists win! I'm not saying that we should blindly allow terrorists to operate without interdiction, but we must find a more diplomatic way to handle situations. We must make sure that our proof is positive and our global support STRONG when striking back! If we can achieve that, then we can take that first step towards world peace!
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 15:24:00 (MDT)
There are less than three months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The man elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike. If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights on during the day. If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights off at night. :)
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 15:05:27 (MDT)
PAT PAULSON for PRESIDENT !!!!!
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 13:28:11 (MDT)
Alvis I enjoy reading your accounts of days in Viet Nam. The way you describe things bring back lots of good memories, so keep it up. I hope a little turbulance will not ground you. Remember the 129th has got your back. So post something looking forward to hearing from you. Shadow
Alton Page "Shadow" <Apage6130*aol.com>
West Columbia, SC USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 07:20:43 (MDT)
HELLO FRED MISS YA BROTHER MISS READ ABOUT THE HOLES THOUGT WERE IN THE ENGINE BUT HOLE INTHE HOOD NOTHING LIKE A GOOD VENT LOL FRED I HOPE YOU COME BACK, PLEASE DON' FORCE ME TO COME UP THERE MAKE YOU TURN THE OUTER AND GET ON. JUST JOKING BROTHER BUT WE ALL WANT YOY BACK ON. THE FRIST STEP IS THE HARDES JUST LIKE ANYY THING, BUT ONCE YOU GET BACK ON YOU BE BACK TO THE GOOD OLD FRED WE ALL KNOW AND CARE ABOUT. SO WE WILL ALL BE LOOKING FOR YOU BROTHER,MEAN WHILE NE SAFE STAY WELL OH CAN YOU SEND ME YOUR E MAIL ADDRESS I HAD A SHIRT MADE WANT YOU TO READ IT OK HURRY BACK WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU MISS YOUR HUMMOR AND STORYES A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
md USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 07:07:36 (MDT)
Nailing boards to the hood of your car! LOL! That's our Freddie:>)) Gotta love him. Don, our prayers are with both of you. Nailing boards to the hood of a car-that's funny! Still laughing-Gently
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 06:45:28 (MDT)
Brother Fred!!! Were counting on you to come Home!! Your daily post were nice to read after a rough day at Work. You have nothing to be ashamed about. Alot of us made mistakes in the past or wished we had done something different. But, we can only learn through our mistakes and move on. Candy you need to move on with you life. But, trying to destory a person's feelings, this isn't tolerated here. Fred has moved on to a better life!!! And he has the respect of everyone here!!! Just remember trying to get even will come back on you one day in the future. FRED PLEASE COME HOME TO YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS!!!!!Alex
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 06:36:51 (MDT)
Fred, I have enjoyed reading your posts in the past and I hope you will continue. Don't let the back stabber get you down. We miss you , brother. C. P. thanks for the pictures
J. W. Wilson
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 06:06:39 (MDT)
Don, we're all praying for your wife. It's a scary thing to have your spouse laying in that hospital bed. Modern medicine and the good Lord CAN work miracles. And as all the other brothers and sisters have said, Alvis, we're there for you! Now is what counts and we'd all sorely miss your writings on our "wall". We can't change the past, but we can lean on others when we're feeling down. And my oh my Jim and I chuckled over nailing the boards on the hood of your car! That could have been anyone of us, and appreciate that you could laugh with us over that one! The sun is shining in Wisconsin, my husband is healthy and well, the grandkids are a joy to my soul......and all is well.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 06:01:20 (MDT)
Evening all, I haven't been on here since my last post so I see a lot has happened since then. FYI my website is public domain so to speak. if there is a pic there you would like be my guest. all the info on it was taken from other places and just compiled here on my page. all I ask is ..... if you want a pic or something from my site take it but if you have a pic of someone I don't have please send it to me so I can share it with the rest of us. Alvis.... hang in there guy. we all love you in here. and I still have this great picture in my mind of some poor guy trying to pick up a couple of boards he nailed together and used longer nails than were needed. ((I've NEVER done anything like that) at least not on the hood of my car)LOL but I do have to admit it is really hard to stand up a wall after you nailed it to the floor you were working on. .............. well now on to other things. we got word this afternoon that a cad saph vein is available and waiting for Donna. she goes back to surgery at 7:30 in the morning. hopefully this will be the last one. Later, Don
Valley Farms , AZ USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 21:09:28 (MDT)
Well well. How nice of Candy to air the family laundry out for the real family to see. Sorry little girl. It won't work here. You've done nothing but make yourself look like a fool. Fred is part of this, and this website is sacred ground. I am merely a wife of a veteran. In fact, I've been the wife of two veterans if the truth be known. We support - most of the time in silence - and we try to help with the healing. Mr. Alvis, please check in and let your real family in the 129th know you are still breathing. Every closet has a skeleton so know without a doubt it changes nothing from the perspective of the 129th. We love you and eternally respect what you are among us - the real family. God help those who try to interfere in our sanctuary. Jamie DeBates
BIG TIMBER, MT USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 20:06:22 (MDT)
alvis, weve all said or done something that later in time my regret,i know there is alot on my sheet,an anyone who judges us for what we have said in the past,don't know us for we have a habit of judging ourselves more harsely than most people do themselves. we are a rare bread. we have gone through more than any veteran should have go through an becaues of this we are alittle messed up in the head. alvis, i know your out there an reading the comos. don't leaves us. we know your pain. you have brothers an sisters on this site that will stand by you , no matter what. wink
lake wales, fl USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 18:52:57 (MDT)
Alvis, Do not let this get you down Brother. The past is the past. If she wants to keep living in it that is up to her. Stay Strong. God be with us All.
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 18:50:39 (MDT)
Alvis....I haven't posted in a long time..I still check in on occasion to see what's up. Don't let some past nightmare keep you from doing what you have been doing..We've all said and done things which can raise the eyebrows sane people, it's part of what makes us what we are......... I'll cover your six any time!!!!!!! Just tell me how!
Livermore, Me USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 17:04:31 (MDT)
Well Ms.Candy. Thats a shot below the belt and I don't like it when pieces of crap do that. You had no right what so ever to get on here and say that. Your a worthless and selfish person that babbles like the idiot you are. Do your self a favor and never post here because your barking up the wrong tree. These guys have been through worse together and if you think you can split that up you need to get your head out of your ass_____________________________Alvis, You have always been very kind to me on here. I hope that you are just not able to get online. That "woman" has no effect on what I think of you and how much I respect you.
Amarillo, TX USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 16:05:18 (MDT)
as has been said before, the purpose of this site is for healing. Candy??? you do not belong here. Fred Alvis was & has remained & always will be a very good friend & close comrade. Fred, if you have backed off, got any problems you want to discuss, e-mail or call me. Remember, Drinking won't fix it. You have all my support. Candy-- just go away. Respects>> smitty
jim Westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 15:26:21 (MDT)
For you chopper guys, Indian Larry, of Discovery Channel fame, died today from injuries sustained during a stunt at Concord, NC on Saturday. Ride safe fellas. Link to story: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/entertainment/gossip/9533189.htm
A friend of this website
Hometown, USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 15:02:31 (MDT)
Fred Alvis sorry that someone has to diplay their stupidity and lack of intelligence on our web site. Candy whats in the past can't be replayed. We all much go on with our lives. An thats what our Fred Alvis is doing. I have only met Fred just a few months ago. I respect him as a man an as a Vietnam Brother. Here we don't try to hurt people. Were family and we care about each other. We well all people to our web site. But, we want them to show respect for everyone here. Fred!!! if your checking the log. Don't let some selfish person keep you away. I always look forward to your post. Take Care My 129th Family. Alex
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 14:46:28 (MDT)
HELLO MISS CANDY MAY I SAY I CAN NOT UNDER HOW YOU CAN TALK TO FRED A LIKE THAT, AND BRING UP SOMETHING FROM LONG AGO. JUST TO HURT SOME ONE WHO IS KIND AS FRED' I DON'T THINK YOUR PAST IS PURE AS THE FRIST SNOW. IN MY EYES YOU ARE A SELFISH AND RUDE PERSON.AND DON'T BELONG HERE. PERHAPS YOU NEED TO FIND A ANOTHER FAMILY TO BE PART OF. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE UNHAPPY, YOU NEED NOT MAKE FRED . FRED AND SUE ARE KIND PEOPLE, AND HAS HELED MAMY HERE, HES OUR BROTHER. AND WE ARE ALL A FAMILY HE3RE. IF YOU CANT TELL FRED THAT YOU ARE SORRY THAT YOU WERE WRONG THEN CANDY AGAIN PLEASE FIND YOUR SELF ANOTHER FANILY TO BE PART OF, FOR THIS ONE IS FULL OF LOVE AND CARINEING FOR EACHE. WE ARE NOT OUT TO HURT OUR BROTHERS OR SISTERS. EVERY ONE HERE HAS A BOND OF LOVE AND NO ONE WILL ALLOW A PERSON LIKE YOU SPOIL IT FOR ANY ONE YOU NEED TO TELL FRED THAT YOU ARE VERY SORRY FOR YOU CRUDE REMARKS TO DRIVE HIM AWAY AS AND HURT HIM LIKE YOU DID FRED IF YOUR OUT THERE, COME BACK, DONT LET THE WORDS OF A TOTAL IDOIT RUN YOU OFF, THAT IS MOT YOUR WAY BESIDES I NEED TO KNOW HOW YOUR ENGEING IS DOING WITH ALL THE HOLES IN IT SMILING; SO MY BROTHER SO COME BACK WE ALL MISS YOU MY BROTHER AND CANDY AGAIN IF YOU CANT BE NICE FIND YOUR SELF ANOTHER FANILY TO BE PART OF OH KEEP IN MIND WHAT YOY TOSS IN TO THE FIRE IN TIME MAY COME BACK AND YOU MAY BET THE TO BE HURT AT TIMES PEOPLE SPEAK WORDS IN ANGER AND WISH THEY COULD TAKE THEM BACK WELL MISS CANDY THIS IS YOUR CAHANCE I HOPE YOU USE IT BE SAFE STAY WELL A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
MD USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 13:51:43 (MDT)
CANDY!!!!......DITTO GALE,DITTO GENTLY,DITTO C.P............
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 12:34:51 (MDT)
Candy,....mean,selfish,inconsiderate and definitley unwanted on here!! If you don't have guts enough to contact Fred in private, well, don't think that you can use this site 'cause we'll put a stop to it. If you're not brother, sister or friend.........................stay OUT!!
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 12:16:49 (MDT)
Gently, you're so right... Some of us thought that the site was getting back to "Caring & Healing", but some people just seem to have to "Hurt"....... Fred, Fred has been doing a lot of good with his stories and putting into words feelings that a lot of us have..... Please don't ruin this for all of us........ This kind of stuff makes me want to "run and hide"..... I hope Fred Alvis is stronger than I and will "Hang in There" for us...... We all have enough hurt without getting more here....... Insinuations and half truths are almost impossible to fight..... Fred Alvis, we've missed you for the past few days...... Let us know you're OK.......
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 11:21:35 (MDT)
Ms. Candy. I think you misunderstand the purpose of this web site. If you feel it necassary to have a negative discussion with/about our wonderful and dear friend Fred regarding his and your past, please contact him directly. This website is built on sharing in a positive light, healing, and support for one another. You really don't want to upset anyone here-we're like glue. Bless you and the children. A very good friend of Fred's -Gently
USA - Monday, August 30, 2004 at 10:36:33 (MDT)
We had a motar round land over the hill,by that time,'72 the ROKs had taken over perimeter security, they were on the north side of Lane firing into the hills to the south as the story goes a short round landed near a latrine wounding 3 guys somewhere around the TOC.
USA - Sunday, August 29, 2004 at 20:10:20 (MDT)
Hey Fred. No worse than the time a crewchief went down to the flight shack one early evening and got his 60 out and started shooting up towards the barracks!!! Had to keep them all locked up in the conex after that!!!! Those were the days..
USA - Sunday, August 29, 2004 at 19:30:26 (MDT)
Fred S. Got to agree with you! Mortar rounds at Lane? Don't think so.
USA - Sunday, August 29, 2004 at 18:29:24 (MDT)
Hey Alvis grandsons are good boo looks like Cyn at 4 and Makya blue eyes and blond hair might loose that to cyns brown hair
Spencer, NY USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 22:10:27 (MDT)
hi Fred Alvis you forgot to mention the daughter you raised from 1987 to 2001, thats when we ran away when she got pregnant by a black man and you called her a n***** lover oops did i call you a racist 15 yrs and you got a bigger drunk then me just laughing with my grandbabies yes i have 2 grandsons but then you have 3 boys to think of always my love , Candy
Spencer, NY USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 21:33:46 (MDT)
On 8 August,1970, Lane AHP, the home of the 61st AHC, was hit by mortar rounds for the first time since 1967.....................I can`t remember this happening at all......There was the drunk ARVN, that pump in a couple of M-79 rounds into the 129th "flight line"!!! But as far as getting mortar rounds...... NO WAY.....This was out in cyber space?
USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 16:31:57 (MDT)
I regularly visit a forum on backyard metal casting, metal casting can be dangerous as the temps range 1300 to 2300 deg. F, safety is stressed alot and every now and then someone will post an accident they had, just yesterday I burned my shoulder when some molten aluminum splattered. Last weeks someone none of us knows posted this: #1) Do not build your own crucible tongs out of paper mache wrapped in tinfoil! This doesn't work. The paper mache tongs are neither heat-resistant, nor do they possess the structural integrity to safely remove the crucible from the furnace. #2) Never attempt to remove the crucible from the furnce with your hands! It doesn't matter if you're wearing hockey gloves wrapped in tinfoil. This is very wrong for so many reasons. #3) Set up your foundry OUTDOORS! You wouldn't believe how quickly even the damp, mildewed shag carpet in the basement will burn when splattered with molten aluminum After a number of replies to the effect of "are you for real" he then posted this: can't stress this enough.....DO NOT attempt to do your own dental work using Bondo! This product was not designed for that application. Apparently, Bondo is highly toxic - and it tastes awful too. The taste never goes away completely, even after the Bondo has been removed. Everybody wants to save money whenever they can, but don't do this. Trust me..... We can't decide if this guy has a sense of humor or in need of serious help.
USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 15:51:23 (MDT)
WARNING... when using a nail gun to attach two pieces of wood together,AND using the hood of ones car as a work bench,make SURE the nail isnt longer than the wood is thicker.My engine now has plenty of fresh air access.
USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 13:34:04 (MDT)
I'm counting down to the Highground on 9/11 just as many of you are counting down to Kokomo. Keeps the home fires burning (so to speak. Sue, thanks for your copying suggestion...I'll try it out today. Am going to try out Don Miller's site as soon as I close here. Thanks for listing the address, Gently. A grey sky and a steady drizzle has robbed the day of summer...feels more like Fall. A good day to scroll through the archives and hunt for "treasures" with my new found copying skills. Thanks, all. Ann
Ann Buslee <firstname.lastname@example.org
Ladysmith, WI USA - Saturday, August 28, 2004 at 10:10:32 (MDT)
Hi Flight, just got home from NY, tough week with all the hype for RNC, can't get around city. Alex did you get logs from 1970, would like to see them. Happy week 9/1 is my 25th wedding ann., hoping for another 25. Mark any word on the update for the other pictures I send you. Tired, need some sleep talk to you all soon Lou Rags Snowsnake 1
Dover, De USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 23:51:14 (MDT)
Jim, I just visited the 129th MIA-POW site of Don Miller, and he has a photo of lee on his site. I'm sure he'll let you use it, he's that kind of guy. Cut and past this... http://members.tripod.com/~Donald_6/129thmiakia3.htm... and it will take you right there. Don, again all of your hard work and dedication has helped others. God Bless. And Jim, if we can help any further...just give us a post. Always there for our Veterans-Gently
USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 14:28:30 (MDT)
I NEED YOUR HELP! Looking for a photo of Lee Wayne Billingsly a casualty on 22 Jul 72 from the great state of Kansas. I am doing a photo presentation of all Kansan's that were killed during the Nam War. So far I have not been able to locate family members and hoping someone the served with Lee might still have a photo they would share. Everyone so far has been very generous in supporting this project and as much as I hate to admit it am only about one fourth through the list of casualties. I am putting all photo's on a CD in a "power-point" type presentation to be used for Vietnam Veterans of America, Inc. Kansas Chapters to use in "awareness" presentations. Thanks guys and hopefully someone from the 129th will have a photo.. Welcome Home Bothers.... Jim Moore, USAF 63-85, Nam 65-66 Thailand 70-71
James F. Moore <email@example.com
Lindsborg, KS USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 14:16:35 (MDT)
Friends, September 26th is National Gold Star Mother Day. Try to organize an event for them, or just take a couple to lunch. And if at all possible, if it can be done without causing any more pain, get information on the Gold Star Mothers to the mothers of those who have fallen in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have recently met two and have sent them info on the "Mothers" after talking to them about the organization first. They need the support, and word is out about how you Vietnam Veterans are taking the lead in helping our new Veterans, so maybe you can help the "mothers" also. Hugs to last the weekend-Gently
USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 14:10:17 (MDT)
HELLO ALL IT WAS FRATE BUT IT WAS A YES CONSET I MAY HAVE MISED SPELLET IT TO HER SORRY I TELL YA THEY PLAYED SONGS BACK FROM 30 YEARS AGO I JUST SAT THERE WITH A GRIN ON Y FACE ALL NIGHT IT WAS THE BEST TIME I HAD IN A WHILE IN FACT YES WAS THE LAST GROUP ME AND GAIL SEEM BACK IN 86. THE GOOD OLD DAYS. BUT TUE I DID'T NEED THE POT TO ENJOY I JOST GOT MY HIGH OF THE MEMORIES I HAD A GRATE TIME, NOW GAIL SHE WAS JUMPING UP AND DOWN SINGING WAVING ANF HAVING FUN TO IT WAS GRATE. NOW HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING. WE ARE DOING WELL I HAD SOME SET BACKS BUT DOING OK NOW I WISK YOU WELL AT KOCKOMO AND HAVE A GRATE TIME ROB I HOPE YOUR BROTHER IS FEELING BETTER WINK IS IT STILL ON FOR OCT FOR U TO MEET US AT THE AIR PORT IF SO I CALL U FROM THER OK SAT AM LET US KNOW CANT WAIT FOR THAT BOAT RIDE, WELL YOU ALL TAKE CARE, TAKE CARE GENTLY , ALEX HOW IS THE FOOT GOING. FRED AND SUE HOW ARE YOU DOING DON & DONNA MILLER MY PRAYES ARE WITH YOU BOTH ,,MARK AND DEE I WISH YOU WELL RICK HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH YOU I CALL SOON.RON PAYE THANKS FOR THE ADVICE I NOW KNOW WHAT TO DO MUCH THANKS, MY CONCLER SAID SAME THING. SO I THANK U WELL TO THOSE I MISSE I WISHED YOU ALL THE BEST. CC BLOOMFIELD I WRITE TO U SOON I HAVN' FORGET YOU A BROTHER TO ALL OF YOU RAY
MD USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 11:56:05 (MDT)
Flight: Personnel Rosters!!! 65thru 68 is clear enough. The rest is bits and pieces. I will try and save then get time off to go to St. Louis. Charlie Rains has a pass to request records. That is the only way we can get the good copies. I went by the end on the month. Trying to catch all names. Some of the copies were a black spot or to wear I can't read the names. Others I can barely make out. Fred 71 was one I could only read a few names. Anne again a dark pages for the officers. But, can barely make out Bruno and Bernie's name. As I said was disappointed with job that was paid for. But, without seeing what condition the rosters are in. But, will try to send Mark what I can. But,I will work on a trip with charlie to St. Louis. Or if Liz has bussiness trip up that way where I can spend a few days with the Archives. Always A Brother Alex firstname.lastname@example.org
USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 08:43:54 (MDT)
GOOOOOOOD MORNNNNNNNING ALLLLLLL! :>)) Just checking in and delighted to see all that is going on. Kokomo-25 days! I saw the "Master Baster" this week-he's all set to fire up the grill. Who's bringing the sacrificial "Dog?" Did you know that Ray went to a KISS concert this week? He wrote me that he grinned through the whole thing. LOL!!! I bet he did--the old pot smoking hippie! LOL!! Ann, "Ben" is my favorite male name! How wonderful that your grandson is a "Ben." I love the name so much that I used to call all men "Ben" :>)) irrelvant of their real name. Silly, but fun. Are we going to see you 9/11 at the High Ground? Sue? You? Always there for our Veterans-Gently
USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 08:13:49 (MDT)
alex, I should have gotten "in unit" some time in aug. of 71,after the 12th.might be sept, but I doubt it.
USA - Friday, August 27, 2004 at 04:44:12 (MDT)
Thank you Ann. Now I have the time do alot for my wife who had done much for me while in the service (on her own at times) and when I was laid up after my 3 operations folowing my accident in 2000. Take Care and God Bless.
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 20:37:56 (MDT)
Thanks, Alvis, for your "cut and paste for dummies" lesson. I've written it down.My son, Tom, talked me through it one other time with the flight log but I let it slip from my memory. This time I'll have the cheat sheet!! Now I'll go back through the log and retrieve all those wonderful memorials on the anniversary of Tom's crash and on Memorial Day, etc. Rick....from your child's perspective it sounds like you have the perfect routine for good living. I envy your wife! And, Alex, is Tom Shaw (Jan-Apr '72) in any of those personnel records? Enjoy the final days of summer, everybody! Ann
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 19:46:09 (MDT)
Alvis, That's one thing I learned from Viet Nam and my 21 years in service. Life is rough enough so make it as joyous as possible. Take care Brother.
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 17:40:57 (MDT)
you have me chuckling ,rick
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 17:35:21 (MDT)
Hi everyone. Been a busy couple of weeks. Trying to get more finished on the house addition. Have 1½ rooms yet to drywall. Then mud and tape and do the floors and trim. Hopefully will be done in a few months. Sure a lot going on with everyone as can be seen in the log. Our prayers are with you all. Retirement is sure nice. No more missing important times. It is such a pleasure taking the little one to kindergarten everyday. What a blessing. Being retired for 14 years now my wife has kept me aware of my duties and responsibilities as a retiree. I wake up early in the morning and make coffee at 6. By 6:30 she is getting her feet and back rubbed. At 6:45 we are enjoying our coffee together and I am getting breakfast ready for our little one. At 7 our little one is up and eating breakfast. Then its time to get ready for school. Then at 8 we depart for school. I pick her up at 2:30. My wife wanted to prepare me for this part of the day so she got me into this S&M stuff, to keep me occupied. Felt a little weird at first but she assured me all the other retired husbands were doing this too. She Just wanted to make sure I was doing all that I was suppose to. Then she said I had to expand my horizons and do this new thing called S&M&V. She said this was the latest retiree thing. Was not too sure about that but thought well I will give it a whirl anyway. Then after picking up the little one from school, we do any homework then it is playtime until we start cooking supper. The little one likes to help stir the good stuff dad is making. After supper we get the dirty dishes put away and then go for a bike ride. Now that she is off training wheels it is an everyday affair. At 7 PM its time for bath and get ready for bed at 730. The wife and I take turns reading stories. Well got to get. Take care everyone. PS: S&M&V stand for sweep, mop, and vac :)
NM USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 15:58:58 (MDT)
ALEX, would you be so kind to send the ones with Larry's name on please? If you can I'll have the web master put on what is readable from all of them....take care family...always a brother, Mark
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 12:18:37 (MDT)
Flight I have recieved the personnel records of the 129th. About, 60% that I can read. Mark do have Larry and Wink on some oh them along with some of the Pilots. There is alot of you whom attended the reunions and on the contact page. I was hoping for more quality for the money that me and Larry Lackey spent. Will salvage what I can.Then try another approach on dates to get better rosters. Always A brother Alex
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 10:42:52 (MDT)
Fred A... Nice story... brought me right back there. I also remember the smells, particularly of the morning air. I would add the ritualistic taking of the can of Raid to the outhouse for crab lice protection, and popping my morning malaria horse pill!
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 09:31:48 (MDT)
Goooooooooooooooood Morning Mark !!
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 07:56:31 (MDT)
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING 129TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USA - Thursday, August 26, 2004 at 06:49:13 (MDT)
press the left button as you drag it across the parts you want to keep.It should appear blue.then right click,a drop down will appear. left click copy.Email it to yourself.press right click,drop down will appear,left click paste. then mail it to yourself.
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 20:25:55 (MDT)
Another great chapter by our future Pulitzer Prize winner! I loved all the details about the bif and the mess area, the sights and the smells, etc. How do I go about lifting that one piece out of the log so that I can put it with my other memorabilia? I've got Windows 98.... Help me, somebody!......Jim, I'm glad to hear that you're going to be there for your son. Good choice. Just tell the coach not to schedule any surprise scrimmages on the San Antonio dates! Off to take care of my grandson, Ben, for a couple of days. Take care. Ann
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 15:22:18 (MDT)
I took very few liberties in this story. the conversations are perhaps made up or different,but thats very much how things went.The crew on that frist flight thru the pass may also have been different,but I DID indeed fly with Mr. page (shadow) and Smitty( jim westwang).Those two examplified professionalism,friendship,humor at the worst of times as well as the best of times. It has been my highest honor to have know these two gentlemen,as well to have flown with them.I also owe them a big thank you,for teaching me the ropes and the small things that keeps one alive in conditions such as we all experienced. Things the army didnt teach us.It has been my honor,to fly with the brave,to soar with the eagles of the 129th ahc.
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 11:13:00 (MDT)
start of the day. Damn alarm clock sounds like bells on a fire engine.Way to early to be up, shouldnt have stayed over at Smittys ( Jim Westwang) hootch so late playing spades,smoking bong son bombers and drinking.Gotta quit that and start getting some sleep.Where did that damn hootch maid put my clean nomax,gonna have to say something to her next time I see her.Walk outside,not caring if the door slams behind me,jeeze,its still almost dark,mist are still at ground level.Feels cool now,but going to be a hot one again.Light up a mandtory smoke before going inside the latrine to take my morning piss.Place stinks worse than usual,I let the smoke drift up to my nose to cover the smell.Open the door,check for spiders,snakes,rats or bugs, dont find any so I take my task in hand,finish the job,and let the door slam behind me.Someone ,still in bed, yells,"damn your a noisy bastard Alvis",fuck um, I think.Walk over to the mess hall thinking,Damn,I sure would hate to have their job,those guys must get up at 4 in the morning and work all day.Sure glad I am on a flight crew.As i walk into the mess hall,I see smitty sitting with a few other chiefs,all grumbling,no doubt, about lazy ass gunners.garb some coffee,toast,eggs,sos looks like crap this morning, so I stay away from it.Damn ,my head hurts.Smitty looks over at me,smiles,makes some noises about how fine the day is.yea,right,its still god damn night time to me.I notice a few pilots at the other end of the mess hall,talking amongst themselves,no doubt about how lazy the gunners are.Sitting next to smitty,he tells me we are going up to an Khe and pleiku today,be sure to have to c rations ,its going to be a long day.Finish my first cuppa joe,noticed the sky has brightened and so has my attitude.Our AC ,shadow ( alton page) has already left so we know its time to drift down toward the flight line.Smity tells me to grab the guns and he will meet me at the ship.I drag my feet alittle,trying to scuff up the "newness"of them,a sure sign of a fng.Buckleing my guns to their mounts,I try and stay out of the way of shadow and smitty preflighting.Cheaking the ammo cans,I see it rained again last night,water has collected in the bottom,rust starting to show on the 30 caliber links.Shit, i think. should have put them inside the cabin last night.I change the ammo ( with smitty giving me one of those looks that says,you should have stored them inside last night, you lazy asshole,fng,and you trying to get us killed looks?).Mr. page saw this also,sigh,I will not let it happen again.Smitty and I help the pilots slide their armmor plating back up into position,it being hard for them to do straped in.We hop in,plug in our coms,and wait while the preflight checklist is completed.In just a few seconds ( they had started while me buckled in) we hear Shadow say,well. lets light the fires.I quickly lean out the door and make sure I havent left the rotor tie down strap on.As the shrill scream of the lycoming l-13 engine starts to increase,I watch the blades start to turn,slowly,then faster than the eye can follow.I clear my side of the aircraft,smitty clears his and adds, tail is clear.Mr page comes to a hover and we hear over the intercom,"everything is in the green".Shadow backs up,going about 2 mph faster than a hover,talking to lane tower,getting instructions for taxi and take off.I noticed the sun was just comming into view,another beautiful vietnam sunrise.Shadow responds to lanes final words,which are always...'have a good day'.we start our take off,passing thru transitional,and up we go.Looking for aircraft that lane tower advised us of,we report them to the pilots as we spot them.Aircraft at 2 o clock sir.roger that,thank you or gottem,thank you,they respond.Thanks to Smittys advice,I had mounted a c ration can on the infeed side of my 60,I watched the ammo belt slap around in the 100 mph breeze.The can kept the ammo feeding just right so it wouldnt get hung up,when,not if, we needed it.Flying ,at first in a northly direction to get around where the mountians ended at Lane,we reached altitude,then turned west,inland toward An Khe.following the river and highway 19. Looking at flooded rice paddys,it seemed the ground was a green blanket with shadows from clouds,dancing and playing,racing us acroos the landscape.Smitty tells me to watch out for fast movers,as we are getting near Phu cat air force base.Phatom Jets are so fast,they will be on you in seconds and near misses are just as bad because the turbulance from them can upset the ship.About here, is where the rice fields drop off and barren country starts.One can tell it used to be fine fertile plains, but being to far from Quin Hon,the people had left,perhaps for safety,perhaps a better life,perhaps they were dead.The mountians on Jims side of the aircraft( south) follow us our entire trip.Rugged and uninviting,looking full of bad guys,beatiful,none the less.Sceret little valleys asking my Georgia forest raised self to explore leading off into dark valleys,all covered in jungle,shadows,hidden places."Forbidden fruit" i think,"go into there and get your ass shot off".( jim,shadow and myself,as well as others,would later go into some of these valleys to "hunt".It was rare indeed when a single ship would venture into the mountians backing lane going all the way to An Khe).Passing by Phu cat,almost all civilization ended,except for a few small villages next to the song ba river.The closer we got to An khe pass,the more barren things got,looking very much like a no-mans land.The mountians that covered lz english and bong song,traveled inland meeting up with the mountians that covered lane,forming,the An khe pass,which in turn,was the gateway to the vietnam highlands.The An khe pass has been a scene of fighting and ambushes,since the japs were in vietnam in the mid 40s. many a french convoy got the shit shot out of them in the late 40s and early 50s,in this most famous of all passes.Just at the base of the pass,( in the mid 60s) the 1st cav used to have a staging area for c.a's into happy valley.They also got the shit shot out of them.Anyway,as the mountians started to close in on us, Smitty clicked on his mic and told me" over there is happy valley,thats one place you dont want to go into.We always lose ships in there,a few months ago a crew member took a 51 cal thru the wrist,then the chest,kia instantly".They pilots were discussing the weather conditions.It also seems that the weather can change almost instantly,trapping an aircraft above,below or in the pass.As we approched the interance, I noticed hw 19 start to twist and turn.I watched the road as we entered the pass.Making u turns,with steep dropoffs on the side,it wound up the pass.I was amazed at what i saw.Aircraft bodies,littered the pass,fixed wing and helicopters.all had crashed.On the top of the towering peaks,to the south side, the koreans had a fire base.The left side(north) towered above us as well,with no fire bases there.i thought that was kinda strange.We exited the passmgiving way to towering elephant grass plains,as entirely different look to the country. This was late in 1971.In feb of 72, tet hit vietnam with a bang.The north vietnamese army held the north side of the pass,while the korean side held on by the skin of their teeth.The pass was closed to convoys ( which never was that safe for them anyway) and air traffic passed thru there,many times ,under the gun.For all intents and purposes, the nva held the pass.The Korean firebase needed supplies badly,and replacements for their many wounded and dead.The 129th ahc was assigned this task.The firsbase was under constant seige,the 129th,their only hope for the week of this battle.It took people with brass balls the size of texas to fly into that place,ready made ambushes waiting on helicopter crews.Any vc ot nva that shot down a chopper recieved an instant field promotion.They did NOT take chopper crew prisoners ,as a rule, they shot them on sight.The entire north face of the pass,those parts below AND above,were infested with nva.My hat is off to any and all helicopter crews that flew anywhere near that death trap.For those that flew into it,your courage is the stuff legends are made of.I salute you.
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 10:46:17 (MDT)
Alvis, where would that info be?? Gale
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 09:11:43 (MDT)
. Fred A.....Yeah the "PURPOSE".I stumbled with the "PURPOSE" for a long time as to what to say. One day I just sat down and thats is what came out of me.....FYI......This is why I have what is at the top of the "MEMORY" page. After basic Larry tryed to get into the Motor Pool. He was a great Mech, and grew up with it ,like me, all our life. Dad taught us everything he knew but Larry had a better nack for it. I'm sure that if he would of came home he would be running this place now. Youve heard about being born with a silver spoon in your mouth, I tell people we had a silver wrench!.........anyways.......Larry didnt get into the Motor Pool ( which surprizes me)because he was a good mechanic. So he wrote a letter home telling mum that he did not make the MOPO and was issued an M16 because they told him he would need it where he was going. In his letter he writes, "I SURE HOPE I DONT HAVE TO GO TO VIETNAM BECAUSE I HAVE TALK TO GUYS THAT HAVE COME BACK AND THEY SAY IT IS AN UGLY THING. BUT DONT WORRY MOM, I'LL BE OK. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BUT I HAVE FOUND A FRIEND THAT I SHOULD OF A LONG TIME AGO, AND THAT IS GOD". Then Larry resites Psalms 91,V 2-7....................I am confident, he was safe and cradled in God's arms in the blink of an eye at 2245, on 9/11/69........................always a brother......Praise be to God.
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 07:44:59 (MDT)
Fred A.as far as the young drivers, been there, done that and bought that tee-shirt. That is a good feeling to see that, but sure fills ones mind with the basic fatherly instinct to worry. Hey thats what us fathers are for:-)....always a brother
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 07:19:30 (MDT)
Yeah Gale, George was the one that said he was going to teach us the jitter bug. I guess he was some sort of an instructor or something......I never saw him or his wife after Friday night.Hummmmm???? Maybe he will see these post and respond. Hey George!!!!YOOOOO,HOOOOOOO!!!!!.........Rick England, How are things going out there for you?...Smitty, Good to see you. You TCB out there, we know you'll always be back here sonner or later. By the way Smitty, You havnt heard from Gary Carlson have you? Take care brothers and sisters......Seems I have more time here at work to talk with you all. Actually, people ask me what I do for my Dad now, and I say, "Nothing". I do do stuff, just at my own pace and time. Dad is just glad that I am here and Mum couldnt be more happy that her "BABY BOY" is back and she doesnt hesitate to tell everyone that either.Geeeeeeeesssssshhhhhh.....Mothers:-)....God Bless her............always a brother.
USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 07:12:36 (MDT)
yeah, i'm ok, & sorry to hear that some of you are not doing so well. I have been doin some traveling. My Son decided to play football so need to be there for his games, i wish he had more experience but will gain some soon. That's why i won't be able to go to kokomo, i did have some aspirations toward doing it but he needs his Dad there, i have been giving him advice & trying, i encouraged him at the 8th grade level but was told a long time ago not to make a kid do anything. Problem is he will be subbing in & out of the line as he is 6'4" & 275#, at 16 still a little clumsy. Hope he is able to work through all this. Some of my last real missions in this life are seeing those 2 grown better than i came up & with Gods' help it will happen. If you guys are having claim problems with the Va, get you congresspersons involved, let them know you are a consitituent & a voting veteran. I did that in a nice way & it worked for me. You all have my prayers, love & respects>>smitty
jim Westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 at 01:00:12 (MDT)
I just clicked on "purpose",on the front page of this site.Read it and sat back,thinking.Thanks Mark,job well done.
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 21:11:49 (MDT)
well, today is a mile stone day in the life of the Alvis family.Tiffany,my step daughter,will turn 20 years old in about 10 days or so. Susan,her "Mum" and I went and bought her a red,jap,used,buzz bomb car.For some reason, the kids love those,I guess like we liked the v.w.beetle when we were young.The milestone is that Tiff and I went down to the license branch.she took the test,and passed. never having owned a license before,nor a car,she is in hog heaven.She is now independent (thank god).As we can all remember when each of us recieved our first license,I patted her on the back,watched her drive off on her own,then smoked about 10 cartons of cigerattes in as many minutes awaiting her return.I calmed down,doing some garden work,but listening ,waiting for a phone call,saying there had been a terrible accident,of some sort or another.Up the drive way she putters,after what i think is 7 lifetimes,smiling and just as proud as any new driver/owner can be,car cleaned and shiny,tank topped off. Being a parent is hell, give me vietnam any day.
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 20:48:38 (MDT)
Gale, I wonder if the daily reports that the oderly room did would mention you being on sick call.They have to account for every single person,so, maybe your mentioned.
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 15:57:26 (MDT)
Mark, was'nt George the one one that was gonna show us some fancy dancin' at the dinner-dance? We were wondering what happened to them also......Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 15:38:16 (MDT)
I'd like to hear from Gary Carlson also. Always there for our Veterans-Gently
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 15:12:06 (MDT)
Gale, Hav'nt heard hide nor hair from Gary Carlson since the INDY gig. His mother is the crafter of those hats. Hope to get to talk to Gently in Kokomo this year about other stuff we discussed at Indy......Speaking of Indy. Does anyone recall talking to George Scott there? Him and his wife were there Friday, and was suppose to be at the diner dance Saterday?...He did post in here proir to the Indy gig.
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 13:43:13 (MDT)
Flight, If there is anyone out there that remembers me hurting my back and going to "sick bay" where they gave me some pain killers and 3 days of bed rest, please respond to my e-mail addy with a letter to that affect. It was at Dong Ba Thin with the 129th AHC in 1967, probably in July. We were building the L-shaped revetments on the flight line using PSP. While assisting the crane with a lopsided hoist by holding up one end of the longest PSP while they raised into place, the piece slipped and brought me down to my knees and additionally wrenching my back. Of course the info is "not in my personal medical records". The VA keep asking for "new evidence"....anyone have any suggestions? I have medical records from my job dating 1969 (within a year of my ETS), but, the say those are nurses records and not a Doctors. I had surgery in 1983(?) and the surgeon stated it could have very well been an old injury from years ago, but, the good ole VA says "not good enough". I even have a letter home to my Parents explaining to them what had happened and the envelope with the date..........nope. Oh well! Clear, Gale
Gale Beard 67-68 <email@example.com
Clinton, In US of A - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 10:18:38 (MDT)
Fred, great work man. I can't remember much of those days now, but, for a while I thought I was sitting on the left side of a Huey. Mark, any word on our new 129th hats yet?? Jim (Smitty), you ok pal? Been kinda quiet in here. Don, again our thoughts & prayers are with you & your 6....hang in there. Later, Gale
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 09:01:31 (MDT)
Great reading stuff Fred.I could see the beach and hear the tops of the trees hitting the skids. Words the Larry would be telling me:-).sighhhhhhhhhh......Gotta make a parts run to Ft. Wayne. Be back later.......Always a brother,,,,
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 07:29:03 (MDT)
Keep 'em coming Alvis(Can't we call you Fred, Fred?) :>) Gently
USA - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 at 06:55:49 (MDT)
Ann, thanks. The next story I write,is for you. It will take a few days for the "mist' to clear a bit as I try to remember.It will be about my first flight thru the An khe pass.
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 23:08:58 (MDT)
Don't know exactly why the computer cut me off. Perhaps it knew that I really didn't have the words to fully express my feelings after reading your last entry. (I still don't). But, thank you for sharing this memory of a flight experience from Nam. I felt so much closer to Tom's experience than I have ever felt. It was remarkably vivid. I hope it is part of a chapter in a book you are writing that I would very much like to read. Keep at it, Alvis. You have a gift. Ann
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 22:53:33 (MDT)
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 22:48:45 (MDT)
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 22:45:55 (MDT)
We were flying north of Lane, up toward Bong Son, the source of many a "pre Rolled" bag of smoke. As I had never been up that way,I managed to stay awake back in the gunners well.We passed L.Z. English,with its bare red,naked, mountians to the west ( thank you agent orange). I was amazed with that much destruction of jungle habitat.In a tropical country of vast jungles and a million different shades of green,there stood an empty desolate, red dirt mountian with no living thing on it.No greens, no animals,no birds,no people,nothing.It was like a mountian on the moon.From a sea of green,this ugly scar thrust up, proclaming americas might.On we flew toward Bong Son,site of many an ambush and many a hard fought battle. Charlie Victor was in charge of most of the rural parts in this ao. We landed at a few fire bases around there.The place was wonderful to look at. Salt flats were harvested by hand, big 'salt " paddies were to be seen instead of rice paddies.I was amazed ,again, at the industriousness of the vietnease peoples, the hard,hand work it took to do this.On we flew,toward the beach,to return home,to Lane.We flew over the beach,softly lapping waves,following the beach south.As usual,no human presence was to be seen,as many cilivans took cover at the sound of our blades.Pilots being pilots and crews being crews,and young men being young men in the face of daily danger.we were bored and started low level flying. Gabby was our pilot.We flew with our "feet wet". Flying toward trees and pulling up at the last second,left twigs trapped in the step plates of the skids.Topping one line of trees that ran to the beaches edge,we were presented with a site that awed me.Brass candle holders,brass pots of all discriptions,lay scattered about the beach.There must have been hundreds.I couldnt talk Gabby into landing to pick a few up.They ( gabby and the peter p.) made noises about ambushes and booby traps.To this day, I wonder if they were correct and the source,the story,behind all that beautifuly crafted brass laying abandoned on the beach,miles away from any human habation.
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 22:42:04 (MDT)
Don Miller wanted you to know that you and Donna our in our thoughts and prayers. Were here for you. Glenn hope you had a good visit with Rogers family. Can't wait for a copy of the DVD. Hope they have good pictures to download. I had a few of Steele and 1st SGT. Hatfield in town at Tuy Hoa. Don't know what happened to them. Should find this week on the Personnel Rosters for the years 67-73. I have a guy doing the research and copying of the material. He was going to give a cost later this week. The people at the St. Louis records don't do projects this large and time consumming. They referred me to this gentleman whom researchs the arhives for people at a cost. So hopefully we can have the entire 129th roster on the web before long. Working with Charlie Rains . Running social and tracking down more of are Brothers. Got my fingers crossed that everything falls into place. Take Care To All!!! Alex
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 09:43:14 (MDT)
.....Gleen, Thats great news about meeting Roger's family, and good to hear from you. Don M.....dang man, thats a lot of trips to the hospital. You and Donna are in Dee and I's prayers. Hey Lenny "Fire"....Great to hear from you. Want to write to you later.God Bless all.....
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 08:40:13 (MDT)
national mia/pow recognition day has been changed to sept 14th, if the info that has been passed to me is correct.
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 07:39:23 (MDT)
dang Don.I hope her health returns quickly and stays that way.Nothing can bring us guys to our knees faster than a sick sixer.Prayer said.
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 07:37:37 (MDT)
Glenn, congrads on meeting the family. Is that film on cd or video cassette?
USA - Monday, August 23, 2004 at 07:33:22 (MDT)
Hi All its been a very long time for me to write 65 65 129th Bulldog 496 but in the last few weeks I have had a great thing you might like to no My Gunner Roger Steeles Family & I got toghter I receved a Email from Alex That thay were looking for me & what was real conincidence was thay are living in Utah where I was from & I was going to the next day to a Horse Auction & right after I went to there home . walked up & said I think you been looking for me it was a life fulfilling thing after 40 years to meet them Roger was killed back in 67 just after we returned from Viet Nam in a chopper crash in Colo we are geting toghter agin thay have movies Roger sent home I cant wait to see them ill write you back after & let you all no See ya The Cowboy Glenn
Glenn Pearmain <firstname.lastname@example.org
Lonetree, Wyoming USA - Sunday, August 22, 2004 at 07:37:52 (MDT)
evening all, been a couple weeks since I have been here. Donna is back in the hospital again. this hospital thing is getting really old, today was #46 or 47 this year. (I can't keep track any more). it really saddens me to see some of the posts in here. but when you get to be our age one must expect to have these kinds of things happen to us and our loved ones. Alvis ............. MAN IF YOU DON'T WRITE A BOOK ........ I don't know, you really have a gift for it. and I love the stories. when things settle down around here a bit I will write my bio. my Bday is in July and if I wait till it comes around again I may not want to do it LOL. Later, Don
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 21:52:45 (MDT)
Our last 2 casualties (durring the war) GLENN EDWARD NOWAKOWSKI WO - W1 - Army - Reserve 1st AVN BDE 21 year old Single, Caucasian, Male Born on Jul 06, 1951 From OAK CREEK, WISCONSIN His tour of duty began on Feb 27, 1972 Casualty was on Jul 22, 1972 in BINH DINH, SOUTH VIETNAM HOSTILE, HELICOPTER - CREW AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND Body was recovered Religion ROMAN CATHOLIC LEE WAYNE BILLINGSLY CAPT - O3 - Army - Reserve 1st AVN BDE 28 year old Married, Caucasian, Male Born on Apr 26, 1944 From HUTCHINSON, KANSAS His tour of duty began on Sep 28, 1971 Casualty was on Jul 22, 1972 in BINH DINH, SOUTH VIETNAM HOSTILE, HELICOPTER - PILOT AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND Body was recovered Religion METHODIST
USA - Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 16:14:27 (MDT)
LENNY I have submitted your statement in my refile on the Aug the 5th with the others I managed to get and my rep officer said they would help more would have been better something about the purpondurence of evidence our something like that .I want to thank all of you for your help and advice it has helped me a great deal both factual and mentally.Now I have to wait and see what happens wheels of goverment turn slow. And I have contacted my congressman and even emailed the president Pulling out all I can.THANKS AGAIN ALL. You all take care and and be good to yourselves.George
USA - Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 09:11:35 (MDT)
Mornin' Flight:Long x no see.Too busy to mention in the N.Y.rat race...Thank the Lord you guys in FL. were spared.No coincidence the name of the strm was "charley"..I'm kinda riding my own storm out here..Trust in God,lean not on your own understanding..Just dropped my oldest son Lenny off @ Newark.He's going to ROK w/ his Engineering/HHC Pltn. for 3 joyous weeks of trng..Once again,college @ PennState is on hold,& rumors say his unit will rotate to Camel country next year.He can't apply to ROTC yet,because of his USARcommittment..I don't understand the "swiftboat"flap..can someone please enlighten me..George Marshall,let me know how you made out..Matt c.thanx for your contacts.To crew members & fam..take care o'yourselves,God bless..out 4 now,clear left...Lenny
Lenny "fire" Adams <RTRWINGNUT@yahoo.com
USA - Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 07:33:33 (MDT)
if anyone needs a dd-214,you can do it over the internet, takes about 2 weeks... http://www.archives.gov/research_room/vetrecs/
USA - Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 04:14:55 (MDT)
Well Family it's been a while. Liz has been doing the communications. Go back to the Doctors in a few weeks. Have made some progress with my foot. But, still alot of work getting it back to almost normal. Want to thank everyone for their support for Joan. Didn't realize that when I saw Bob at the reunion, he would be going to the Fiddler's Green in such a short time. I have a guy working on getting personnel roster for 67-73. It will be a weeks before I find out if he can do the job. Ray good hearing from you today. The Wall !!! Glad you went Mark!! You leave a part of yourself every time you go. I will never forget my first time at the wall. Been there 3 times. Doesn't get any easier. But, glad you made the trip. I will always remember Coldwater. It meant alot to me being there with rest of the 129th family. Well wanted to make Kokomo but,not to be this year. Just take alot of pictures. Take Care my 129th family!! Alex
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 14:08:29 (MDT)
THANKS FOR THE OFFER TO STAY AT YOUR PLACE WINK, BUT I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND AND WILL NOT BE COMMING DOWN TO FL AFTER ALL. THEY PASSED THE SPORT PILOT RULE, TAKES EFFECT 1 SEP. I KNOW WHAT PLANE I WANT ANYWAY JUST NEED TO SAVE BUNCHES OF THE GREEN STUFF. DENNIS I HOPE THEY GET THEY ELEC BACK ON BEFORE MUCH LONGER. ALL MY FAMILY, STAY SAFE. JIM
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 12:44:07 (MDT)
Ann and Sue, I will get you the place and times for the meeting, ASAP. It's bittersweet, of course, but we'll be there for each other. A toast to Sisterhood! The 129th Sisterhood! With a smile-Gently
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 12:29:11 (MDT)
Was told over and over and over, "you gotta go", "you gotta go".Was told that I would have a hard time approaching it. 29 years after the his death, and 16 years after it was constructed, I made the treck to the "WALL". I kept on recalling what one had told me, take your time approaching it.It's gonna be tough. Upon seeing it from a distance,(no tears yet) it was the opposite for me. I could not get near it fast enough.As it grew larger then life in my eyes, and my heart, I knew that I had finally made it.(still no tears) I was honored, more then saddened, to stand with Larry and his comrads.I stood back from the "WALK", in the grass at Panel 18W,Line 74,75,76. Lines of the crew of the "257".(still no tears)Just stood there silently staring at 18W.Other vistors passing in front of me on the "WALK".(still no tears).......I thought to myself,shoot it was'nt all that bad to come to the "WALL".(still no tears) It was time to leave the presence of the "WALL".........................................stuck.........can't move..........feet will not turn around. Could not turn my back on Larry. Finaly being able to make an about face, I felt myself slowly feeling the "WALL" grow smaller behind me.(still no tears).I turn to look once more and found myself running back to 18W. Wanting with all my heart to run my fist through the "WALL" make a gapeing hole, grab Larry and bring him home with me...............the flood gate opened,TEARS!!!!!...again I turn ......another about face............another turning glimps..........another race to the "WALL".......... another foiled atempt to extract him from the WALL"...............tears of love....................on the way home from DC I realized that Larry was with me now, more then ever, and that he was able to bust loose from the "WALL" himself and have his spirit join with me to forever come home with me...................he lives in me, through all of you. God bless you my brothers and sisters. What you did for me, and what you do for me, I wear as my armor.............................Tears.........
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 12:26:47 (MDT)
I can't make the weekend in Iola after all, so was glad to see the VVA mtg scheduled for 9/11 at the Highground. I've already circled my calendar. I've been there before (awesome) but don't remember a meeting place. I'm hoping to meet Sue and Gently (finally!)It seems ironic/appropriate to salute our fallen soldiers on the anniversary of another tragedy. Ann
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 12:12:53 (MDT)
....Dennis, Good to hear from you. Glad you are OK...............Mark
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 11:47:37 (MDT)
To All, I am doing this from work, cuz unlike WINK, I am in day 8 with no power. The house is ok but where I live is in the middle of the Haines City Power grid which is still being rebuilt. Also having a Motorhome is not much help when the generator is down. I toughed it out at the house for the first 3 days, but the combination of no A/C and a severe heart condition doesn't mix. stayed in a hotel for three days, now in the motorhome a a rv park that has power. Otherwise all is well still waitng for the DAV rep to contact me as he has now left for Ft Myers Dennis
Haines City, FL USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 10:10:41 (MDT)
The "Wall." Hmmm..Gently
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 08:37:03 (MDT)
Judith, Sept 11 at Neillsville sounds like a plan! What a great place for anyone who can come to meet. The Highground is a special place with supportive folks running it. Tentatively......YES! Sue
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Friday, August 20, 2004 at 07:38:47 (MDT)
Yes, first time for us......I don't think I could handle the one in Washington D.C. One father had his two children with him...they must have been maybe 6 or 7...he said "this is why we have to be very careful before we start a war......all these people died because of one".......was it too soon for such little ones to be confronted with death and war? Or must we begin young to prevent unnecessary war......I certainly can't answer that. I just know it was very quiet there tonight, as if there were no words to be said.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 21:58:40 (MDT)
Sue and Jim, the first time for you guys? I ,personally, believe its called the moving wall,not because it moves from town to town, but how one cant helped to be moved by the wall itself.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 21:33:03 (MDT)
on the very last panel,a few lines down from the top, you will find..becker,stover,herman and also you will find strothers. The first time i went to the wall, it was dark. I decended down the walk,passing all the names.The names,the dead, got higher.When I reached the apex,the "v",I looked to the left side and found the names of my friends.I raised my beer,tosted them,took a drink,then poored alittle into the grass.I was alone and no one saw me wipe my eyes.I have returned a few times to that wall. I no longer care if anyone sees me wipe my eyes.I smile as I look thru the mist of times,I see them young and so full of life.Others are looking thru their mist,those long ago times. They wipe thier eyes too.We are bound together in death,we celebrate them in life.The wall has such a profound effect on me. My throat constricts,I grow quiet,I remember .
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 21:28:05 (MDT)
Jim & I have to leave first thing in Friday morning for St. Paul so we went to The Moving Wall this afternoon. It was a sunny afternoon and the grounds where The Wall is set up are so pretty, grassy and well kept. It was a peaceful setting with flags flying above us. I wasn't sure what to expect....except I tend to choke up when I start talking about Vietnam...so that was a given. I'm so proud of Jim and all of you for being over there.....for doing what you had to do. So anyway, we walked up to the wall and immediately got lost in the thousands of names listed there. Fortunately, inside a tent nearby is someone on a computer...if you give them the name of the person for which you are looking, they can pinpoint exactly where that name is on the wall. Jim found a couple different guys he knew. As he was looking around, I noticed a notebook laying on one of the tables. It was an alpha listing of all the names on the wall......page after page after page after page......I had to stop looking. I couldn't take it. All those names...all those families torn apart. Thankfully Jim and you guys made it back. I'm not aware of anyone personally listed there.....but it is very powerful. Jim wore his 129th shirt and cap......you never know where you'll run into one of your own. Thank you guys for fighting for me. Welcome home!
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 20:56:10 (MDT)
Excellent Alvis! Such a picture in our minds! lol Jim says you should put these stories together to be published. Amen to that!
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 20:44:56 (MDT)
Decending from the cool air of altitude,the heat was again oppresive.The pilot called lane tower with short final,the day was just about over. Flying around in the traffic pattern, we made a south east approch to the runway.I could see that a few ships had just arrived also as their rotors were just winding down and crewmen were unclasping their 60s ,others starting postflights. We hovered into our reventment and sat down after a clear right and a clear left from the gunner and chief,with a gentle rock off the back of the skids. It had been a long boring day, runing ass and trash missions, going no where new. The c. chief got out and began poping cowling,I the gunner, started taking of the guns, making sure they were clear first.The peter P. stayed in his seat,armor pulled back, doing paper work,the pilot helping the chief post flight,joking and smiling in a tired way.The pilot and peter P. finished first, they said their goodbys and ,I suppose, went to the "o" club for a well deserved drink after stopping by the flight desk to drop off paper work.The chief and I hurried to finish as the mess hall was closing soon.Just as we finished,a 1/4 ton truck came by with a few crews in it. The guys in back hollered. "hey, you guys want a ride back up the hill".The chief and I hauled ass and jumped in back,glad to have a ride and to see our buddies.The chief took the last seat against the cab,and I leaned against the tailgate where there was room for my two machine guns.The truck took off in a cloud of smoke and dust,bumping along the ruts up the hill. We all joked and smiled,we were comrads and had cheated death another day.I relaxed,shifting my weight,all 180 lbs of tired,but feeling good weight aginst the tail gate.Suddenly,the tail gate popped open and I fell out of the truck.Now the truck was only doing about 5 miles an hour but still, i did a summersault in the middle of the road,following the truck.After the guys saw i was ok, they started giving me the hoots and hollers only young soliders can do.Since the truck was going so slow,I got to my feet and started running after it. It was almost like slow motion,I was barely gaining ground,all the while the passengers were chearing me om and laughing to beat the band."Come on" they cheered between laughs,as they streached out their hands to aid me.I made it,barely,cause I was laughing as hard as they were.That was the most exciting thing that had happened to all of us that day,and we made the most of it.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 15:10:35 (MDT)
Hats off to Bob. Joan, you are certainly in our prayers. Thanks for the info Liz. Guys, looks like Ron Paye is going to make a lot of money off you. LOL!!!! His sales pitch is hard to say "No" to. Actually, he doesn't take "no" for an answer: you either buy a suit or you'll prematurely be wearing one! We'll have our Master Baster at Kokomo again:>)) Might be another turkey. Hmmmmm. Sue and Ann, the VVA State Meeting is in Neilsville(Near Black River Falls) at the Highground, on 9/11. Why don't you try to make it. Saturday AM will be meetings, and then we're going to have a pot luck, so bring a dish to share. It's a great group of Vietnam Veterans and wives. The three of us could go to the Vietnam Memorial located there and pay our respects together..you know, a sister thing. Please consider it. Joe and I stay over Saturday evening-most do:>)) PJ welcome back! Joe and I are taking some Gold Star Wives and children of our fallen Iraqi war heroes to the Packer Game on Saturday-kind of bittersweet. Ray Gagner is also involved in this-thank you Ray. With a smile-Gently
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 12:36:31 (MDT)
Sorry to hear about Bob passing. My thoughts are with joan. Frenchie, good to see you made it through the storm. I hope you don't have too much to fix up because of it. Pete, really good to see you back on line. Thanks for your concern I appreciate it. Tell Niki I said Hi. Ray, I sent you a message before i got on here. Hope you're ok. Mark, Fred A and everyone else that wished my Brother well, I thank you. He had his first Chemo treatment on Tuesday, and was feeling weak when i called. He's anxious to get back to work, but after finding out he's not as tough as he thought he's willing to wait until he feels better. Hope the rest of the 129th family is doing good.....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 11:11:23 (MDT)
A slow , respectful, hand salute to Bob .I will see you at fiddlers green. Susan and I offer our depest condolences.
USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 04:22:35 (MDT)
Well paint me up and call me chicken. I left town for the Hurricane. Well actually we had been planning a 40th birthday cruse to Key West and Cusumel Mexico with 6 couples. (NO NOT MY 40th) And this guy Chuck, something or the other. Said Oh hell no. Take this Boat to the Bahamas. So We really didnt really cruse.. We kind of just drifted out there. Because all of the cruse boats didnt have any where to go. All the births were filled up. And the Cruse Boat companies just love to not go somewhere. You see its all in the fine print. Theyre protecting you and their boat. Not to mention not using any fuel or dock fees. Living on a barrier Island off the cost of Georgia we are naturally always aware of the possibilities of the storm surge. Trees landing on you. The sorts of Chicken Little stuff they say to you to get you to leave early and not clog up the roads with all that last minute panic driving in the emergency lanes stuff. Turns out it wasnt worth leaving for any way. Anyway coming back we did see a lot of damage. A bud of mine is down there with the Georgia Air National Guard ( Must be bad usually they use only the State Government that it is in) helping. He said there are a lot more people dead then they are talking about yet. Ray, Peat, Rick, Robbie Gently, Mark, Jim, Alvis, Alex & Liz, Gale, Wink, Fred, Jim & Sue, George, Lou, Max David, And the rest my extended family. The rumors once again, of my early demise were premature.
Bill French <Frenchie745@(RemoveThis).comcast.net
SAV, Ga USA - Thursday, August 19, 2004 at 00:44:42 (MDT)
I wanted to thank each of you for your prayers for Bob O'Connell. I just received an email from Joan (his wife) that he passed away this morning around 4:30am. Please keep her in your thoughts and prayers at this time. I don't have any of the details yet, but will let you know as soon as I receive them. Take care, Liz & Alex
Liz & Alex Fernwalt <email@example.com
Memphis, TN USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 20:11:31 (MDT)
rick you could ask the lawyer what he may think. he might not thinks it's nessesary. just see what he has to say.if it's not working out best for your daughter then i would go to familt courtan yes ask questions but let your daughter know what questions you intend to ask.]]]] pete good to here from you, it's been a long since you've posted.]]]mark i'll check the contact list,thanks]]jim o are you still comming down to florida in sept. let me know the dates. i'm going up to n.y. in mid sept. to see my kids.so let me know one way or the othe, oh an the invite to all, i'm only 40 mimutes from disney world etc.,so if you want to come down an use my place as a staging area your more than welcomed. wink from 010 with love 3/69-10/70
lake wales, fl USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 19:40:14 (MDT)
hello all just saying hello rob how is your brother doing, rivk hang in there dond let the get you angry, thats what they want to do, wink frenckie and jim glad you made it threw the storn pete so good to see you back on hows the family, mello to alll alex you take vare of that foot hello gently how are you doing hope to make it to komoco next year, but will be at sa tex for sure, well just want to say hello to you all ,oh cc bloomfield how you doing i be in touch mark and dee take care gale i hope all is going well with you to oh gavent forgot the pins lots going on i tell ya about it to long to put hrere and may be boring but had a roofer pur a roofer put a roof on they must have thought i was dum .so i called them told them to get back out here told them i may be crazy but not dum they just threw it together looked bad, oh well they are going to make it good after i lost it gail gad to stop me we never go up stairs where they put the roog in i guess some one put there foot threw ithe celling and never said anything to us theres more but i stop ther. a brother always ray
md USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 17:51:39 (MDT)
Thanx for the info on the vets weekend in Wisconsin. I'm going to get out my state map as soon as I finish this and start planning the trip! Never heard a word about it. Sue, if I can swing it Friday I'll let you know and maybe we can hook up somewhere. Ann
Ann Buslee <firstname.lastname@example.org
Ladysmith, Wi USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 13:41:04 (MDT)
Well, I think im back??? it only took 5 months, but what the hell. I am trying to catch up on everything ,thats been going on, Robbie,man what can I say,my heart and prayers go out both of you. Wink, glad to here, you made it threw, the storm. And, about the V.A, guys, Wink is right on,that is there for you, you all gave a big piece of your self, for the RED WHITE and Blue, and you should go for it,you allready ered it. Brother Mark, you did it without me, but I was thinking of you the day of the JUMP,but had famliy in from out of town, you all know that one. Frenchie , how did you make out, with the storm?? I was thinking it must have been in that area. Alex, glad to hear, your hanging in there with your bum leg. well thats enoght from me for know.going back to the flight log. Allways your Brother Pete
pete rhome <bulldog216@ sbc global.net
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 13:35:21 (MDT)
Well, I think im back??? it only took 5 months, but what the hell. I am trying to catch up on everything ,thats been going on, Robbie,man what can I say,my heart and prayers go out both of you. Wink, glad to here, you made it threw, the storm. And, about the V.A, guys, Wink is right on,that is ther for you, you all gave a big piece of your self, for the RED WHITE and Blue, and you should go for it,you allready ered it. Brother Mark, you did it without me, but I was thinking of you the day of the JUMP,but had famliy in from out of town, you all know that one. Frenchie , how did you make out, with the storm?? I was thinking it must have been in that area. Alex, glad to hear, your hanging in there with your bum leg. well thats enoght from me for know.going back to the flight log. Allways your Brother Pete
pete rhome <bulldog216@ sbc global.net
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 13:34:02 (MDT)
.Wow....would be nice to go to WI Sue and Jim.........man I wish I had nothing but time on my hands. Wink, glad to hear the the storm was easy on you. from the looks on the news, it was a bad one. I bet just going through was enough............no suits here, but do have a tie. Robbie........prayers are with you and your brother......There have been some new names and corrected addresses inserted in the CONTACTS section recently.I am at work now. When I get home I will post the new names in here. Wink I am pretty sure yours in there now. Will check. The web master is working on some photos also.........Rick, wish I had some advice for you. I just know this, "LOVE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL". If you handle the thing with your true spirit of love, all will be well no matter what the out come.......THE BOX AND THE BOWS ARE NOT THE GIFT,THE GIFT IS WHAT'S INSIDE. Same applies to us.....love to all my family out there........Mark
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 08:44:05 (MDT)
Thanks Wink. Heather and I are meeting with the lawyer on thurs should I ask him about the family court? This is her lawyer any questions I should ask? I have a couple tha I am going to write down today. This is my first time with a lawyer are they as bad as the jokes?hehehehehehe.*********Wink your right don't you guys give up or quit on the VA. Flight be careful out there
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 08:28:22 (MDT)
---> doesnt wear suits nor own any,not one
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 07:52:51 (MDT)
Debbie "made" me buy a suit for our wedding ! :o(
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 07:10:13 (MDT)
Sue, you and Jim make sure to touch the names of all of our friends and brothers on the "Wall." And thanks for sharing the info. Maybe Ann would go? But be gentle in your invitation, because she may not have been to such yet. Are you and Jim joining us in Kokomo? Ron Paye called last night-all is well with him. He's starting a business selling suits so I told him to bring some to Kokomo, knowing that Joe, Fred and Gale probaly don't have such:>))) All I ever see on them is casual wear...sometimes too casual! With a smile-Gently
USA - Wednesday, August 18, 2004 at 06:55:24 (MDT)
Just a bit of additional information. The 8' x 250' traveling wall lists the names of 58,220 Americans killed or missing in action from Vietnam. It will be on display in front of the Krause Publications building in Iola Wisconsin from August 19th (Thursday) to August 22 (Sunday). The military show that honors the Vietnam vet is the 21st & 22nd. Jim & I plan on being there on Friday. If anyone else is stopping by, let us know.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 21:23:11 (MDT)
evening flight, what a storm that rolled through. the eye of the storm flew right over me. i'm ok an so is myhome. others were not so lucky. most of the homes escaped with little or no damage but the surrounding area looks like a war zone. i was in my garage watching the storm, when the eye of the storm passed over me. the wind &rain just stopped,wild. about ten minetes later the rains an wind started in agian. it leasted about 4 hours godd to hear that some of you are getting approved by6 the v.a. for some service connected disablities, you guys now have your foot in the front door, don't pull it out. keep putting in for more, an don't get to thinking that the money your gettingis welfare or something like that,it isn't we are entitled to it an more. just keep it in your heads it's an entitlement for our service to our country. it's our turn!!! enough of that. congrags.]]]]]]] rick your grand childs farther is entitled to see his daughter,but take heart, he will most likely get tired of it all an stop seeing her. keep your cool. but what i would tell your daughter is to dump her lawyer an get a good lawyer or tell her to petition family court. family court from my own experiance an being a cop family courtis the way for her to go. just mention it to her. family court 90% of the time side with the mother. best to all always thinking of the 129th family wink 3/69-10/70 from 010 with love
lake wales, fl USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 20:55:19 (MDT)
Liz, I've emailed you for Bob O'Donnell's address. I know from experience how important those cards and letters are - just to know someone is thinking of you during a difficult time is such a blessing. Rick, Jim & I have two granddaughters. Ashlyn is 3 1/2 and Grace is 10 weeks old. They are so precious to us. I know advice is cheap, but when the situation starts to get to you, take out a picture of your granddaughter and just look at it a couple minutes - she needs you. Your angry will fade away. Just zero in on that......that little girl needs you in her corner. For those of you able to get to Wisconsin this weekend, or who live in Wisconsin - The Iola Military Show is this Saturday and Sunday. Vendors set up on Friday and the public can wander around the grounds during that time, too. Saturday is the big day. The emphasis this year is the Vietnam era with the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Replica "Healing Legacy" exhibition. This exhibition , featuring a 250-foot replica of the original Memorial in Washington, D. C. will be featured adjacent to the showground and there is no charge for admission. There will be a vintage military vehicles, equipment and arms, a gun show and much more. I just found out about all this or would have had it on the web for y'all sooner. Would be a great place to wear those 129th t-shirts!! Looks like we'll have to go Friday. Hope some of you can make it and we'll see you there.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 20:29:15 (MDT)
GALE, I have 10% for the tinnitus plus 10%, I'm not sure what they call it but it has to do with how much of an impact it has on your life and work, anyway I get 20% total. Is it the same with you ? jim216 @arczip.com
USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 20:16:37 (MDT)
Thank you all for the support and prayers for Bob O'Connell. Robbie your brother is in our prayers also, please keep us posted. Judith, I knew I could count on you, THANKS!!! Robbie and the rest of you guys, please listen to Judith, go to the VA and get the Agent Orange, and any other test you can and file the claims. All of you who served our country and gave up so much have earned the rights to whatever benefits, tests, assistance, etc the VA offers. You deserve much, much more than the government allows!!! It took me nearly 10 years to convince Alex to go and have the Agent Orange test, which according to the little 80 year old doctor everything looks good right now. Enough of my "motherly advice" tonight, but I care about all of you and your families, so do this if you haven't already.... Take care. Liz
Liz Fernwalt <email@example.com>
Memphis, TN USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 18:46:47 (MDT)
Robbie, hope your bro is better. I went thru an agent orange exam at johnson city va,in tenn, in the mid 80s. They stated I had ptsd but it wasnt service connected.The most vivid dream I used to have was ( for some reason) being overrun and everyone getting blown away as the little folks got closer and closer.sound effects, gore,all of it..smile, just like being there. Guess i got that from the airport in chiago.
USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 11:29:02 (MDT)
Rick....Rick...don't lose it! The moment of giving "him" what you want to give him, is not worth the damage it will do from then on. Listen to the guys here-they've been there. Cups! I'm concerned about you in Haiti...drop us a note. Liz, card covered and filled with prayers. Rob, prayers for your brother also, you know that. And dear sweet Alex. Glad to hear the VA is coming through for some of you-move on it(claims) now if you haven't. Bernie! Texas! You bet! Back to work. Kokomo!!! 1 month:>)) And Gale...may I have a beer or two this year? Last year you guys had me strapped to a chair so I wouldn't get into anything I couldn't handle, so maybe with Joe along this year you guys will lighten up. Any bets on a "moon" from our favorite again this year?! Later my friends-here's loving all of you. Gently
USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 10:49:43 (MDT)
I dropped in on our local Vets Hospital in Canandaigua yesterday, and got registered in the system, and am going in tomorrow for some blood work and an agent orange check and Hep C check. Real nice people there. Prayers for Bob Oconnell. Liz thank you very much for your help, and I hope Alex is getting better. Ray, my brother is having a bit of a problem with the port the doctor put in his chest. He was in South Carolina driving, and his shoulder started hurting him real bad. The Dr. gave him a different medicine to take when he got back. I have to check in with him today, and see how he's doing. Rick E. thanks for your thoughts about my brother, and my advice to you is similar what George Marshall suggested. Don't alienate yourself from the bad guy. I've been through similar situations, and wanted to give the guy what I thought he deserved, but Love and concern for my daughter are what she appreciated. Hope everyone else is doing ok, especially Wink and anyone else in that florida area.....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, August 17, 2004 at 08:50:26 (MDT)
prayers said and fingers crossed for Bob. I am reading a book again by a pilot that served in 65 at an khe. He talks alot about places we know so well.This is also the time they started going into happy valley.Its almost like a trip down memory lane.For those of you that like to read,or those that want to find out what it was like being on a chopper?slick, go by the libary and check out..chickenhawk by mason. its good reading.
USA - Monday, August 16, 2004 at 21:23:20 (MDT)
This is a just a quick note to ask each of you for your prayers for Bob O'Connell. I just received an email from his wife Joan advising that he went into the hospital on July 29th with congestive heart failure or so they thought. While going through all the necessary tests that they do, he was diagnosed with lung cancer. They will start Chemo shortly and his wife Joan has requested our prayers. If you would like to send a card or email to Joan, please drop me an email and I will send this info back to you. I know Joan would appreciate any support that we can offer at this very difficult time. Judith I know I can count on you to jump in and let Joan know we are here. Debbie, Dee, Sue, Shirley, and the rest of the 129th wives/girlfriends, please let Joan know she has our support. I'll be waiting to hear from you. Robbie I passed along your information to several people, sometimes it takes a little while to get through to the right people. God Bless you all and thank you. Liz
Liz Fernwalt <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Memphis, TN USA - Monday, August 16, 2004 at 19:38:42 (MDT)
San Antonio, Texas, you can bet 'The 426 Crew will be there! How about it Bruno? Ann I would truly like to talk or meet you sometime.
Bernie Hernandez <Bernie.Hernandez@HILL.af.mil>
Ogden, Utah USA - Monday, August 16, 2004 at 14:26:18 (MDT)
yep, put in papers but havent gotten them back yet. Kal, if i aint to drunk, I drive back home each day to shower and replenish alcohol and food supplies.Or, I sleep in the car.( before Susan). you are welcome to crash at my place if I do drive back and forth.Best I can offer is a couch.
USA - Monday, August 16, 2004 at 10:56:35 (MDT)
Wink, I hope all's well with you in Forida and that you were far enough North of "Charly's" path of destruction. The same goes for all other Brothers, Sisters & families in Florida and along the East coast. Our thoughts are with you. Gale & Debbie
USA - Monday, August 16, 2004 at 06:39:56 (MDT)
Kal, that's great. I'll be sleeping in the back of my truck with Judith.....no, no,no, no,...I meant with my brother-in-law !! We won't have to "babysit" her if Joe's gonna be there.;o) I'll bring enuff suds for you also Buddy....I think you've paid ahead on it.LOL. Alvis, have you put in for time off for Kokomo? No excuses Buddy! I tried to send you a pic of my '47, but, they keep coming back....what'sup? Rick ole buddy, "bite the bullet"!! Like George said, I learned the hard way....and lost. It's their lives and they have to make those decisions no matter what you think. Just be there for them when the pieces fall and good luck. Hope you can make Kokomo,but, we'll understand iffen ya can't. Clear, Gale
USA - Sunday, August 15, 2004 at 18:01:36 (MDT)
BEWARE!!! Hi gang!! Today I recieved 3 messages in my e-mail that pertain to viruses. Two were vireses and one was a note from Skyking saying I sent his mailbox one that was caught. I am getting this thru Yahoo where one of my mailboxes is located. Only a few people know of my Yahoo box so someone has tapped into and mined the addressbook of one of those few people. So, watch your mail and check it closely!!. Judith - Gently, check your addressbook and see if "DSK @ MILWPC dot COM" is in it..?? You have to realize that it is too late now to do anything about it as they have the addresses, BUT.. As I said - BE CAREFUL!! I hope all are doing well. Gale, I am hoping to be at Kokomo. I also am hoping to ride the bike down and will be needing a place to throw the sleeping bag.. Anyone have any extra tent space?? Take care... Kal...>>>
Kal Bergstrom 67/68 <n8auu (at) email. com>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Sunday, August 15, 2004 at 15:35:08 (MDT)
Thanks Ron and Ray for calling at home. George and Fred thanks it all helps I hear you all. I have to make a deicsion on my emotion for this week. Either a hot lz or cooling it and keeping my sense about me. No fight or flight this time my granddaughter is invovled. I and my wife have had her at least for 3 days aweek since Jan 20 till now. I have to do this right. I will also talk to my Doctor and conseulor at the vet center for help. I again want thank our family here and you be careful out there. Here is an oldie*****Twelve Inch Pianist This guy walks into a bar, pulls out a tiny piano and stool, and a tiny little man. The tiny man sits down, and starts to play the piano. This other guy notices it. Hey, what's that? A twelve-inch pianist. Ya see, I found this magic lamp, rubbed it, made a wish, I got a twelve inch pianist. Can I try? The man with the piano agrees and a minute later, a million ducks fill the room. Ducks? I didn't wish for a million ducks, I wished for a million bucks! Ya think I really wished for a twelve inch pianist? hehehehehehehe
USA - Sunday, August 15, 2004 at 14:35:36 (MDT)
Rick,I'm not one to give advice but here is my take, and what worked for me.Don't do anything that might alienate you from from your daughter or her ex.I know this maybe tough but we never know what our children will do.My daughter was divoriced dout 2yrs ago and I get to see my twin grand babies no matter who has them.My ex son inlaw has the twins in the summer and I can see the twins almost any time he has them.He is a no good creep that treated my daughter badly he owes me considerable money.Every time I see him I want to talk to him in sign language you know the kind where you use a ball bat.But that would only turn him away and he would try to get to me through my grand babies.So I treat him alright.Evey time I pick them up from him I get a bad taste in my mouth, but when we leave I look at the twins and its worth it.I can see if they are being treated right.That is what is most important to me.My daughter even though I love her and raised her to be smart still makes bad choice's some times.If you piss one off, if they need help they won't come to you and you never know whats going on.Its better to be subversive sometimes and bite the bullet.This is just my thoughts on it, things that I learned the hard way.Hope all goes well and good luck.Hi to all hope all is well with every one take care. george
USA - Sunday, August 15, 2004 at 09:05:30 (MDT)
Rick, I just hope they arnt starting down that old,well used, nasty,muddy road or using the child as a weapon to push each others buttons.
USA - Saturday, August 14, 2004 at 20:56:04 (MDT)
This SOB that is suppose to be the father(fater). Has aa lawyer and wants unassited visitation rights without a court order and Heather's lawyer said to do it. He has no experience and hasn't given her much money to help out. Any comments or help out there. Thanks. I am scared this is a problem with me, getting angry.
USA - Saturday, August 14, 2004 at 10:51:14 (MDT)
Many stories,unfortunatly,are similar.Ann, I,m very sorry,but it T.Becker and D.Stover.Sorry flight, but it took me 5 beers first to begin to write that story and it shows. Ann, my last name is alvis.As Fred Scaggs is here also, it avoids confusion as my first name is also fred. SLOW hand salute,with deepest respect to Roger Steele.
USA - Saturday, August 14, 2004 at 04:22:21 (MDT)
Alvis. Is your last name Alvis? Ann
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 20:09:38 (MDT)
Alvis, Reading your bio reminded me of a plot for a movie!!! Could the friend you referred to be Tom Shaw instead of Tom Becker? The dates are right and I couldn't find the name Tom Becker as a casualty. We had our son, Tom Jr., just before Tom left for Nam in Jan, '72, just like you referred to in your bio, but he copiloted with Claude Strother not Dave Stamper. I know it's a long time ago but anything you can remember will help me put some pieces into place. Thanx, Ann
Ann Buslee <abuslee!centurytel.net>
Ladtsmith, Wi USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 19:57:59 (MDT)
Flight: I Have been actively looking for Brothers of the 129th for many years now. And today is one of those days everything falls into place. This afternoon I recieved an email from Roger Steele's niece Marta. Roger was a gunner with the 129th in 65-66. He was killed at Fort Carson COLO. in a heilcopter crash in 67 he was the only one killed in the accident. Roger flew with Glenn,Rainer and me. Plus some other during that time. His niece mentioned that her brother was tranfering movie flim to dvd. I didn't know Roger had a camera. Can't wait to see it. Foot still giving me problems. But, will over come by San Antonio. Glad to hear the progress everyone is making with the VA. Take Care Alex
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 15:38:11 (MDT)
Thought I would also mention to all that are 100% to check your state benefits also. Once at 100% most states give free vehicle plates for 1 vehicle, free hunting and fishing license, they eliminate your property tax. Benefits vary from state to state but check into it. Also the VA will give you dental care, (one of our lost benefits).
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 10:33:10 (MDT)
Thanks all for your words of encouragement. The unemployability paperwork was sent out on monday, 2 days before I received the increase so in a month or so I shoud receive a new determination. Hopefully it will be for the other 30%. If not I will get my congressman involved. Like Ray and Jim say ya have to fight for everything and not give up. The VA will not do anything if your satisfied with what they give you, but if you keep after them for what you know you worked for and deserve you will get it. May take a while but keep up the fight. Take care everyone. GOD, COUNTRY, HONOR
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 08:28:08 (MDT)
CONGRATS, RICK GLAD TO SEE THEY INCREASED YOUR RATE, LIKE RAY SAYS GO FOR 100 SINCE YOU ARE RETIRED. RAY WE MADE OUT GOOD SO FAR, I GO SOME MUCH NEEDED RAIN. MY FLOWERS LOOK WORSE THAN THEY EVER HAVE DUE TO THE LACK OF RAIN THIS YEAR. I DON'T THINK THE NEXT STORM WILL HIT US TO BAD IN THE SAVANNAH AREA,,JUST WINDS AND A LOT OF RAIN. I GOT A WEB SITE THAT EVERYONE MIGHT LIKE TO VISIT,,,WWW.AMERICASHUEY.COM. IT FEATURES 091'S LAST FLIGHT. 091 IS THE HUEY THAT WAS IN THE SHADOW OF THE BLADE. GRANDPAW RICK E. TAKE CARE OF THAT GIRL, I COULD TELL SHE IS THE APPLE OF YOUR EYE. I GOT INSIDE STUFF TO DO THIS STORMY WEEKEND, SO TAKE CARE ALL MY BROTHERS. JIM
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 08:08:29 (MDT)
Thats great Gale and Rick and Casey. Rick You can go ununemployable an get 100% or keep 70 and work. Depending on retirement.*******This is a voting year and bush wants that vetrean vote. Flight be careful out there.
USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 07:53:31 (MDT)
RICK J IF YOU GOT 70% DISABILTY YOU SHOULD GET YOUR SEVICE OFFICE TO GO FOR THE OTHER 30 % FOR UNAPLOYABILITY (MEANING YOU CAN'T WORK CALL YOUR CONGESS MAN DON' STOP AT 70% YOU GET 100% SINCE YOU GOT 70 FILE AND AND APEAL FOR UNAPEAABLE TALK TO YOUR SEVICE OFFICER . LIKE I SAID GET THE CONGRESS PERSON IN VOLED. THEY HELP A LOT, IF NOT FOR HIN I WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN MY 100% THEY TALED ABOUT GIVEN ME JUST 70BUT MY CONGRESS MAN SAID WE JUST APEAL IT THAT I DESVER 100% SO THEY GAVE IT TO ME. GALE I KEEP ON THE APEALS TO LIKE YOU SAID FOR YOUR HEARING AS I SAID SEND ALL YOUR MED REDORDS TO THE CONGRESS MAN BACKING YOU UP TRUST ME THEY LISTING I WISH YOU ALL WELL. NOW HOW ARE ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTES DOING,I FEEL GOOD, I FOUND THE PATH I WAS SEEKING AND FEEL GOOD, JIM O & FRENCHIE HOW DID YOU MAKE OUT IN THE FRIST STORM. MY PRAYES ARE WITH YOU FOR THE THE NEXT ONE , ROB HOW YOUR BROTHER DOING,AND HOW ARE YOU DOING, AND HELLO RICK. WINK KAL MARK HELLO TO ALL, GENTLY STILWAITING FOR YOUR BIO,,, WELL I HOPE ALL WORKS OUT FOR YOU RICK J AND GALE JUST DON'T GIVE UP, WOW THOSES WORDS SOUND SO FIMILALY TO ME FOR YOU ALL ONCE SAID TO ME, WELL TAKE CARE BE SAFE STAY WELL A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY GOOD LUVK TO YOU ALL
md USA - Friday, August 13, 2004 at 07:50:45 (MDT)
Those VA letters must be going around. Received mine yesterday amd my disability percentage was increased from 40 to 70%. About darn time. Now if I can get that other 30% that would be nice too.
USA - Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 15:42:13 (MDT)
Flight, I can't believe it. I got a letter from the VA yesterday. Almost through it away because I figured it was just another denial, but, instead I had Debbie to open it.......I got 10% sevice-connected disability for my Tinnitus. Not much, but........ Thanks to who ever told me to get my Congressman involved. Now if I can get my "back injury claim" through. Gale
USA - Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 14:02:02 (MDT)
Geez! Obviously, when one doesn't visit here for afew days one will never catch up! I'm anxious to read the bio's, but not excited to post my own. I will, but not right away. Good idea Fred. Robbie, Ray mentioned your brothers' condition to me and I will keep him in my prayers. Is Alex ready for us to take care of that foot yet?! Back to the woodshed-Gently
USA - Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 12:49:42 (MDT)
Just dropped in to tell all you guys (and gals) hello. I will definitely make the 2005 reunion in San Antonio and am lookingn froward to seeing everyone again. My unit (191st AHC) reunion is coming up in a few weeks in Tulsa OK. Anyone here from the Tulsa area?
Groves , Tx USA - Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 06:07:14 (MDT)
Fort Clayton hospital,fort clayton panama, panama canal zone, aug .12th, 1950.On this day,the world first heard my angry cries.I was to be the last child of a small family.One older brother by 3 years, no sisters.Dad had been a marine in the pacific islands during ww2 and was now in the army due to easier rank promotions and being from rural mountianous tennesse, there werent many jobs around at that time.After I was born, he was sent to korea to fight another war.I can remember Swinefourt Germany in 55 thru 58.The place was still bombed out and very poor,but proud folks, were digging thru our garbage simply to eat.We did a spell at fort rilley Kansas, also fort Polk. In 58, dad was sent to fort benning.We lived in the Sand hill area. That was great for a male child.Miles of swamp and endless miles of forest, tanks,airbourne,soliders marching and singing.In 62,dad got orders for Vietnam.He had had enough of wars and had 2 sons to raise.After 22 years, he retired and we moved into Columbus Georgia.About this time, the army was thinking about a new kind of warfare called helicopter assault units. I remember what seemed like hundreds of hueys flying over our house,almost daily. It filled me with awe and pride.I was around 12 or 14 or so.In 67,when i was in high school,i got my girl friend pregnat.In this time period, in the south, they threw both kids out of high school.I got maried,had a son in 68.She was 16, I was 17.Went to work.Tried privat schools twice, but didnt have the money to continue for my deploma.Things didnt work out,we seperated,she moved in with an old boyfriend so I found a girlfriend.things went along, time passed as time does.Started night high school, was making straight a's for the first time in my life and working construction during the days. Mom called me at work one day,around november of 70 and said that I had gotten a letter, please come home at lunch. I did, it said..You are hereby ordered to report for induction into..yada,yada,yada.told dad i was going to go talk to a recruiter,try and get a school. he said," Please dont join the army".At this time, only the army was left in vietnam and no "combat troops" were there.Recruiter ask if i wanted to be a "jet engine machanic"? Hell yes was my answer.4 or 5 months later I found myself strapped behind an m-60 machine gun in a gunners well.That was ok with me. I volintered for nam and flight status. I had some romantic notion about "if I had the stuff" and about war. Ah, the foolishnes of youth.Just before leaving for nam, i told my wife that i wanted a devorice and for her to marry as i wanted my son to be taken care of.I told her that we had been told "the life expectancy of a gunner was around 14 seconds in combat".Mom and dad saw me off from the airport, dad shook my hand, it was the first and only time i ever saw tears in his eyes. Damn i was proud.Got to nam.I thought we would hustled off the aircraft,thrown rifles andand told to hit the bunkers.Waht i found was heat hitting me like a brick wall and smells that were unfamilar.Folks were laid back in Cham Ron bay,the place was beatiful. Eye searing white beaches, azore blue water and army filth spoling the countryside.I was grabbed for 2 weeks to pull guard duty there.I guarded junkies and nurses.Got my orders finally,was sent to 129th ahc.outside of Quin Hon.I was assigned tofly gunner for a fellow from long island named Mike.He took me under his wing and tried to teach me things to keep myself alive and the crew.I hated my "fng" days and couldnt wait till i wasnt a "cherry boy" any longer.After a short time,Mike derossed and I was kinda a floating gunner.Settled into a crew where Gabby was the pilot and cant remember the other folks name.Played lots of spade with smitty, he was my buddy along with a fng smitty and i took under our wing named shaky.Smoked lots of pot,didnt drink to much then. First person i shot at was on a ca,somewhere out in a valley.My guns jammed.so gabby flipped the ship over to the crew chiefs side and he cut the person down that was running heel bent for cover.Inserted some rocs, found out that person was an old grandmother type woman.shrug, wrong place,wrong time.That,more than anything else,opened my eyes to vietnam.I came down on a mission,sometime in late 71,to find a civilan aircraft that had taken off from Quin Hon and dissapeared from radar.Had about 60 or 70 folks on board.The aircraft had missed clearing Quin Hon moutian by about 100 feet.Due to wheather conditions, 3 days had elasped since losing contact. We flew around the top of that mountian looking for a crash site. We spotted it by the vertical stablizer sticking up out of the ground.The burnt outlines of the aircraft could be seen in the scorched grass.There werent any bodies. 50 or so feet in front of the crash site,we saw the first bodies.Men,women,children,torn apart like rags dolls.no one body had shoes on. heads were missing,legs,arms, most were burnt to a blackened crisp.the tremendous violence and what it did to to the human body remains with me today.One fellow,wasnt burnt. He looked almost like he was just sleeping.Looking closer,I saw that he had been ripped open from his navel to his genitals.His intestines lay about his body,easily viewed thru the open flap that was his lower stomach area.Childrens toys lay about the crash site as did open suitcases and luggage. We reported in, no surviors.Went back to lane for lunch.They served spaghatti that day.The guys intestines kept being pictured in my minds eye,that was the only time i couldnt eat in vietnam.Did alot of flying up towards an kae, flying thru the passto plie Ku where the french men were buried standing up facing france ( mang yang).Passed many a lazy day swimming at the lepersorium south of Quin Hon.Close to xmas,gabby,I and the crew were sent down to Tuy Hoa,tdy, to support the special forces groups inland from there.Tuy Hoa had mostly been emptied due to Nixons bringing the boys home campaing promise.We stayed with the airforce folks,made good friends with them.drank, smoked,party on. Damn airforce pilots drank beer from a human skull.They talked to gabby and the peter p,set up a mission for our xmas party. We went to the flight line,cleared tower,and set off for the ville. Set down in he middle of tuy Hoa ville,loaded on 6 whores, took them back to the active runway,where the wing wipers met us with a truck,to unload our "cargo".I was told it was a great party, i spent my xmas eve playing spades,drinking and smoking pot.Its still a mistry to me why I didnt sample.Day after xmas,we took a load out to the special forces. then took a load of passengers somewhere,dont know were. Thats when we lost control of the aircraft and almost crashed,while little folks were shooting at us.Got sent to 60th ahc soon after that in jan of 72.flew as crew chief there.The company was wide open in the fact that if you could strap it on your helicopter and you could shoot it,then nothing was said.We had 50s, miniguns,dual 60s.chuckle,all kinds of stuff.Roomed with David Stover. Got in a fng named Tom Becker that we allowed to room with us.We were the best of friends.I took Tom under my wing,to teach the same as i was taught,stay alive,keep your crew alive.Feb 18th, we went to breakfest,laughed,bull shitted,enjoyed our morning. tom flew with david that day.They crashed and burnt.Crispy fucking critters.And yes, the old story is true..only parts left were heads in helmets and feet in boots.The rest of the parts of the 4 crew mwmbers were put in c-ration boxes.Oficers came dowm to our hootch,I had to say whos was what, to be shipped home.Tom had just had a new baby,I took the picture off the stand between our beds.I stopped flying after that.I had 4 momths left in country. I had enough.After that I started sampling herion and all the pot i could smoke.Mixed drinks at 25 cents each helped also.I came home in july of 72.The girl i had written to, the girl i had dated and loved before going, the girl i had planed to marry, was out on a date the day i got home.shrug, enough said. during my 30 day leave after nam, i just crused around in my moms car in Columbus georgia,it was home after all.My 3rd day back,I picked up a hitch hiker,named terry.He was a marine,a home boy,a nam vet.We could relate.My former friends were "different" now.Anyway, my 3rd day back, I started sticking needles into my arm. I was doing "reds' and delata,a profound downer.It made all the pain and memories go away.It was a warm retreat from life.Got sent to fort carson. was there 30 days and came down with hepatitis B. Spent 30 days in carson hospital. Got out and stayed in colorado. started college there,was going to be a pharmacist. Got thru 2 years of school of a 5 year course.found speed, it was nice to put into your arm.I also had bought a 1948 jeep,spent alot of time in the mountians,alone.Quit school, sold pot. got busted. army friends had moved to the oil fields in wyomong. Started running pot from colorado to there, made lots of money,got busted with 5 pounds. faced 20 years.got out on probation,stayed straight till it wqas over. Moved to montana. met a frech girl there,sold everything i owned and moved to france.Loved it but didnt work out,moved back to tennesse.Started my own painting biz.got in a head on car crash,killed 3 teenagers,put two more in hospital for 6 months or more.I can no longer run and limp after prolonged time on my feet. wasnt my fault they say.Got 12 grand ( in 82) bought a harley .51 panhead chopper for 12 hundred bucks.drugs and alcohol had me selling it within 2 years.got a job as an iron worker.lasted untill 98.Docs at va hospital told me they had just discovered hep c and had a new test for it.I was ate up with it. Your a dead man they told me.Would you be intrerested in a new drug drug we are testing and trying to get approved? your chances will improve from 1 in 100 to 1 in 10.sure, i said. after injecting drugs into my stomach for 9 months,i was declared "diease free".They told me not to drink anymore,so I dont, but I dont drink any less.I forgot to mention the 5 years i was adicated to crack cocaine.Well today, I no longer do drugs, but alcohol sure is nice after a long days work.My one son that I told about..the last time i saw him was in the georgia state prison system. he thought he could crack a safe. along the way,thru my screwed up life, i had 2 more sons.The oldest of those 2, i rasied till he was about 2 and the youngest i only saw once.I have been in contact with them,as some of you have seen in this net. They are very angry with me for deserting them,and i cant blame them.One, joined the navy and you can see a pic of the bomb he sent sadam hussien with our 129th printed on the side.I am not proud of my life, of what i have done with it.I have hurt many innocent people,good people.I have to live wih that.Its easy to blame ptsd, but i wonder.I was a nieve , romantic young man.looking for adventure,wondering what i was made of.I found war and it cured me of all my romantic notions.I have seen man at his worst.I have found that what many folks place as important, doesnt mean squat> I HAVE found the simplest pleasures in life
the happy smile of a wife
the giving of time to habatat for humanity
USA - Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 00:51:25 (MDT)
you can change your own brakes? Melody, I am indeed impressed. Not many ladys can do that.
USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 at 17:14:04 (MDT)
Hello all. Nice to read these bios on everyone. There is not much to mine at all. Born 2/11/1981. Lived in the same house most of my life till two weeks ago. My main job is taking care of my grandparents. Not much to that yet. My other "job" is I sell some bracelets and stuff I make over the net. I want to go to a art school in NM and would also like to take alot of photography courses and learn how to make better glass beads and such. Pretty boring indeed. My first car was 300 bucks...77 fairmont that my grandpa and me had to do some body work to get running. My current car is a 90 buick...nice old lady car to drive my grandma around. At least I change my own oil and brakes, right? I may not be able to go to the reunion this year in San Antonio. My grandpa's reunion is right around in that time....this may be the last one he can go to and know what hes doing. I hope I can swing both......also have another one for a group I belong to in late July in CO. Busy Summer next year!! Lets hope its as good as this years has been.
Amarillo, TX USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 at 13:40:12 (MDT)
Born 06/23/1947 in Cleveland, me and my sister were sick a lot so the folks moved to Sunny Southern California.. Screwed around in high school so much I had to take the last year over, so finally graduated in 66 instead of 65. Also, got in a little trouble with some friends that got me put on probation. Funny thing was the Selective Service wouldnt take me while I was on probation. When that ended they were quick to send me a invitation to take a physical. At that point I knew it wouldnt be long. Asked a friend that had recently gotten out, what he thought I could do; he thought I would make a good pilot. So I went down to enlist, took the tests a waited for the paperwork to come back. Got my draft notice, so the recruiter got me in the 120 delayed enlistment. My recruiter goes off to Warrant Officer Flight school. I found out that the paperwork was not filled out correctly so I had to go in as a RA unassigned. At the induction center they took pity on me and put me into a aviation MOS. Got to Rucker for AIT in the summer of 69. Lost one of my classmates when they were demonstrating a mini-gun in a classroom. Some one at the amo dump put a live round in with the dummies, gun was pointed at the class so we could better see how it operated. Went to Nam in January 70, wrote a letter to tricky dick (commander in chief) on how I thought I got screwed on my enlistment. They said that they would look into it. Got to the 129th was assigned to the maintenance platoon. Next day when some of the guys found out I was from Southern Cal I was invited to move into the hooch that was painted flat black inside (made the black lights look better). After a month of bugging the First Sergeant I got to go to the 1st Flight platoon. Flew into Dec. got a few weeks off so I could be home for Christmas. Spent the next year and two months in Germany. Ended up as the Company commanders Crew Chief; (a full bird ) Medavac in a snow storm scarred me as much as CAs did. Got home and went back to work building circuit boards. Meet my wife, about the time I turned 40. She had two girls from before and we have since added two more girls.(they are 9 and 12) Lived for 9 years in Colorado following jobs. Moved Back to Sunny Southern Calif. A year and a half ago. Went to the VA after some urgings from some friends. After a year the VA rated me at 70% for PTSD and then rounded it to a 100 with unemployablity. Sorry for the long post but I didnt know what to take out
..Tails Clear Left
Hemet, CA USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 at 12:39:12 (MDT)
Robbie I hope everything works out for your brother, good thoughts always for him.*****I also reiceved a w32 sasser b worm with the help of norton and a tool I think I removed. I don't don't know where it came from. Be careful out there.
USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 at 08:18:56 (MDT)
Good reading the commo. Before trying to write a BIO. Fred I have gotten emails everyday with w32 virus. It attaches to your address book. Roadrunner informs me not to open the email and I haven't had any problems. Well born 6/13/46 in Barberton,Ohio. Quit in the 12th grade in early 65. Gotten a GED later in the Army. Worked a little, then joined the Army in Apr.65. Basic at Fort Knox,KY. AIT at Fort Rucker. Nov. 65 Flew to Vietnam with Rainer and Glenn on a C-130. Spent a few days at the 117th. Then they realized I belong across the road at the 129th. Started out in POL. Driving the 1200 gallon tanker and setting field refuling bladders in different LZ's with the 101st Abn. In the late summer of 66 began crewing in the 1st flight platoon. Rotated back Thanksgiving 66. And sent to Fort Benning for 5 months. Then back to Vietnam in 67. Lucky me was sent to Vung Tau. 3 months later was sent back north to Tuy Hoa was told crewchiefs were needed. Ended back at the 129th at Lane. Which when I arrived all Crewchief positions were filled. Once again drove the pol truck on the flight line and pulled guard duty and filled in on a flights when needed. Left the 129th and ETS on Apr.14th 1968. Reenlisted in Oct.68. Fort Stewart, Ga.Didn't adapt to stateside duty. Offered to go back to Nam. Was rejected. Went AWOL. Got out in 69. And Married in Vidalia, Ga Have 3 Children. Marriaged didn't work. ME!! Head wasn't screwed on right. 12 years later met Liz (the Best that come my way.) We have been together 16 years and married 8 this past july 27th. In 91 she encouraged me to join the VHCMA. And with her support found the 129th and this wonderful family. Alex 65-68 Always A Brother!!!
USA - Tuesday, August 10, 2004 at 07:45:22 (MDT)
Hi again! Just back from a week's reunion with my sibs (3) and my kids (3) and my grandkids (2) with one more on the way. Paging back through the flight log was really a treasure hunt. I loved the bios and will surely write one for Tom when his BD roles around next 3/28. Alvis, I loved your description of the Huey flyover. It gave me goosebumps. I remember the sound from Eustis and Rucker and never will lose my reverence for the ship Tom loved. After Tom died in '72 I remarried a high school crush in '75. Big mistake. We finally divorced after 19 years (and 2 more kids) and get along better now then we did while married. I guess I never got over my first love. Anyway, Chris Buslee, my ex, is a lawyer that was quoted in a newspaper about a murder case that Gently was reading. Small world! Wisconsin is cooling off fast. Gee, I hate to say goodbye to summer. Later, Ann
Ann Buslee <email@example.com>
Ladysmith, WI USA - Monday, August 09, 2004 at 12:35:58 (MDT)
Hello Flight. Been awhile since I posted. My brother has to take Chemotherapy treatments now because his cancer spread from his colon to his liver. They installed a port in his chest the other day to make it easier to take blood and administer the chemo. They are trying some new form of treatment, and i hope it works. The doctor told him if he hadn't done anything, he would be gone in 6 months. Now they are speculating 2 years with the treatments or possible remission if everything works well. He's 63 years old and will continue driving tractor and trailer, and will only stop if he feels he might endanger himself or someone else. I see everyone has been doing a bio, so here goes....DOB 12/9/48 born in Elmira N.Y., the youngest of 6 kids. Was in and out of school in 1968. I'd quit and the draft board would send me a draft notice. I'd go back and then back out and another draft notice. So.... My cousin and a couple of friends enlisted in June 1968. My cousin and i both signed up for helicopter training and went to basic at Ft. Knox together. I made E-2 out of basic and on to Ft. Rucker. Labor day weekend 68 we went to Dothan and waited until the last minute to come back to the fort. The bus was full, the driver wouldn't let us on, so we decided to go to Florida to visit my brothers, and forgot to come back. Local Sherrif's located us 13 days later and brought us back to Rucker. They busted me to E-1, gave us both a summary court martial and we did whatever dirty deeds the 1st Sgt. wanted done for a couple of weeks after. Then we completed our training and I went to Ft. Cambell KY. for a couple of months and then on to Sunny Vietnam. Got to 129th around april 1st 1969, flew a few missions and left on emergency leave in late January 1970 as my father had a heart attack. When i got home Dad was ok, i stayed home for a few weeks and then on to Ft. Hood Texas to the 6/92 Artillery. They said i could get back in aviation if i went back to Vietnam, I said I guess i could stay in the artillery, and spent my last days there. I got my GED while there, and I married my first wife while there, and we had a daughter in June 1973. ( the real love of my life). We got divorced in 1976 due to some problem, (probably mine) and i moved to Buffalo in 1977 and got an AAS degree in Data Processing. Moved to Rochester in 1980 to work at Kodak. Married my second wife in 1985 (big mistake) We divorced in 1991 (not my fault this time) and been here ever since. Sorry if this was a bit long. Love you all....Rob
Rochester, NY USA - Monday, August 09, 2004 at 11:38:56 (MDT)
Fred, I didn't send you an e-mail buddy. Sorry, Gale
USA - Monday, August 09, 2004 at 09:38:30 (MDT)
Gale, The e-mail you sent me had a virus, here`s what it said,.......The file attached to this email was removed because it is infected with the W32.Beagle.AG@mm virus..........
USA - Monday, August 09, 2004 at 08:26:24 (MDT)
Hi flight, well we had a great time at our 173d jump. yes mark even took to the skies. He has his blood wings but he is still a cherry blaster. was looking for more of you to come and jump to see what you missed in life. any way our 173d and 129th xmas party is coming up Dec 4th. Stayong at the Holiday express in Celina with pool party from noon till 5 pm. Then over to the pop a top for supper, santa, music and a great time. Meal this year is sailsberry steak, pot, vg, salad all for $7.00 each tip included. please bring a gag grift for male and female. (cheap) also if you can please let me know if your coming. Hotel phone is 4195864919 ask for 173d xmas for booking. hope some of you can make it. see you in kokomo, ind
steven m spencer <firstname.lastname@example.org>
elida, oh USA - Sunday, August 08, 2004 at 21:22:32 (MDT)
Well put Alvis fine words. glad I did it thanks for thinking of it. a brother always Ray
MD USA - Sunday, August 08, 2004 at 18:16:11 (MDT)
ALVIS AMEN BROTHER!! george
USA - Sunday, August 08, 2004 at 09:39:38 (MDT)
gale, i typed in 46/47 dodge/plymouth in ebay car parts. got 6 hits
USA - Sunday, August 08, 2004 at 09:14:13 (MDT)
I just did it and it took maybe one minute. its very easy to do.
USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 21:00:31 (MDT)
The VA Health folks have created a new website at http://www.myhealthevet.va.gov/MHV.portal It just has general information on it for now, but over the next twelve months additional capabilities will be added that will allow you to transact most of your meds ordering and other administrative tasks through the site... Additionally, by the middle of next year you will be able to view (and review) your VA medical records and/or let your civilian medical support view the records... If you register at the site now, you are more likely to get your favorite user name
USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 20:51:23 (MDT)
Hi flight, don't get on line much due to my job, DOB 3-24-50 born in Brooklyn NY and lived there until 5 years ago, moved to Dover De. Served with the 129th from Jan 70-Dec 70. Worked in maint, and was assigned to recovery. We got 740 in Apr and rebuilt it from the ground up with new parts. What we could't get from supply, we aquired from various other locations. When we finished the rebuild, we named 740 Snowsnake 1, and the rest is history. Retired from the resevres in 1997, did one last recovery out of the hudson river in white plains ny before retiring, lost the ship to rust, and bent frame. Hope to see you all next year in Texas. Lou Rags Snowsnake 1
Dover Dover, De USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 16:25:07 (MDT)
Fred, I dont know who originally said this but it works for me. What you believe imprisons you; the truth is that which can be directly experienced. So if what you believe is true why spend any energy believing it? Beliefs are for Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, justice, fairness, equality etc. Of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.
USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 13:32:06 (MDT)
Good Job Wink. I was born April 21, 1948 in Altoona PA. We moved to Cleveland when I was about 3 or 4. then moved to Euclid O. graduated in 66 went Reno for the summer worked on a 100,00 acre ranch. came back worked as a milling machine operator. I couldn't handle the factory so I joined the army. Basic Ft Knox ait Ft eustis then Jan 68 went RVN and the 129th ahc. Came home stationed at New Cumberland army Depot PA. Worked on shithooks went tdy to eustis for shithook school grad. back to pa. then they ship to ft belvoir tdy perdiem woking on hueys again. hehehehe thats the army. WE did experiments on hueys there like spraying foam bridges and laszors weired shit. I met Claudia in Long Island we got married Feb 70 had heather moved to AZ glad to get out of NY then we had Ricky. I had 15,000 jobs in the mean time. The kids turned out great heather is a Pharmacy Dr. and Ricky is working on the same degree now. Claudia is a teacher with a masters. They got their smarts from ther mother I know the right gene pools. hehehehehe I don't know how they put up with me, but they did Ilove them forit.NOw I have a grand daughter Annika going 7 months. She is better than any meds I took. I have to ditto what Fred said about you Mark I will never forget the first time I used a computer and my brother in law shwed me how to find the 129th on a search engine and the feeeling that there was somebody out there. I love you brother and flight be careful out there want to see you at the next reunion.
USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 09:58:01 (MDT)
morning flight, i was born 8/25/47 in portchester n.y.grow up in t lake mohegan area, graguated from high school in 1966.after highn school got a job as a tool an die maker, apprentance with a deferment from the service. lasted about a year an quit, got resless. join army jan. of 68 was schooled as sheetmetal repair in fort eutice,assigned to hunter army base for 5 months. great time. than transfered to fort riley ka. assigned to 238th awcspent nine months at fort riley before being to veitnam.we were sent to an kne. a month later assigned to 129th . worked sheetmetal repair for awhile. got resless again, wanted to fly in choppers as door gunner for gun platoon. left sheetmetal repair an was in charged of pol for three months until slote opened up in guns.until opening i flow as stand by gunner.slot opened up in june of that year an never looked back, loved the flying an the personal i meet an flow with. exstended my tour for 6 months tfor early out.released from active dutyoct of 1970.after army i bouned from job to job until sept. of 77 got a job as a cop for the city of peekskill n.y.retired in 1990.in 1997 of sept. had a bad flash bach, after a a day an night of drinking. ended up in v.a. hosp. sent nine months in programs in montore v.a. hosp.got head stright an stopped drinking. hav4e not had a drink sincr. flash bvach was the worst thing that could of happen to me but on the other hand it was the best thing that happened to me, would not want to go through it agian.married an divoriced twice, have four great kids, of course my child support would choke a horsebut i wouldn't have any other way. moved to florida three years ago, bought a home on a golf course an play golf just about every day,live is good.an of course my life would not be complete without the wed site an the old friends i know in nam an the new friendsi found in the last few years throughthe wed site. its great to be home with family.i think i got a little carried away with my bio wink from 010 with love 3/69-19/70
lake wales, fl USA - Saturday, August 07, 2004 at 09:03:22 (MDT)
This is great stuff. many of us can see parts of our own stories written here already. Many of us have been bitten by the same demon,and all this time we thought it was us alone. The sharing has taught me that many of you simply didnt come home to the "great american dream" and was/were happy ever after. Thank you for reforcing the fact that it just isnt a "character defect" with-in me. The scars have grown thicker,I believe,but the healing is questionable for me. I put on the brave face,but buried deep, remains chaos,uncertianty,and betrayal by our country and goverenment.We made the deepest friendships possable,deeper than even family, then came home alone to face uncertianty,fear, nerveous,missunderstanding,and lonelyness. We couldnt share, for no-one understood.ww2 vets could,but many scorned us.I believe they did this out of jealousy,as their time was fading and korean vets were just plain forgotten.We were left to fend for ourselves,and we didnt know we had problems. We knew alcohol,we knew drugs,but we didnt know inner peace.Many of us had flicked off the "switch" that allowed for close personal relationships.We love,screwed, drank,drugged,but inside,we were still alone.We were alone in crowds,in bars,in family get togethers, you name it.After years of dealing with our own personal demons,we find that many of us share the same broken path we call life.We hit a hell of a speed bump,on that road of life. Many of us now come in here, we find those we once shared brotherhood with, some we were very close to, loved as brothers,closer than brothers.We shared the smell of gun powder,instant death,or the promise of it.We few, we brave few,took on one of the most dangerous jobs that vietnam had to offer.Talk to any grunt..he will slap you on the shoulder and say," thanks friend,brother,for being there for us,we KNEW we could depend on you.We never,not once, let them down.shit, I am becoming breezy. Mark, as so many have said,as its become a common theme in these bios, thanks for being here.Its allowed us a place,at last.
USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 22:35:34 (MDT)
WOW,,WHAT A WONDERFUL AND EXCITING GROUP OF BROTHERS AND SISTERS I HAVE. MARK, I DID THE SKYDIVING THING SEVERAL YEARS AGO. WAY TO GO,,,YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE SO GRAB LIFE BY THE HORNS. EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND. HEY RICK JENSEN, HAVE NOT SEEN YOU POST SINCE WE TALKED, PLEASE DON'T GO AWOL. OH, GEORGE I WORK AT HAAF, THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED MUCH CONCERNING THE DRUNK FRONT. LATER JIM
USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 11:16:40 (MDT)
Hello Freddie Boy. Where ya been?. To "know what you believe" and asked a question about it, can produce two kinds of answers. Right or wrong. To "understand why" you believe what you know, means it has been proven to you. I don't understand your answer to what ever question it was that you were asked about what you know...................Hey, did I tell you guys that I jumped out of a perfectly good airplane at 3700 feet the other weekend?...................Mark
USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 09:31:11 (MDT)
Short bio: Kansas born n raised lived in the southeast most of my life.went to school was a bad student got into lot of trouble Went 1 extra year to grad in May 69 got out went to work.Was drafted in August of 69.Did the 3year thing. Was in country in Jan 70 left Dec. of 70.Came home spent leave in home basement totally disorintated.Went to Hunter Army Air Feild in Georgia spent bout 1 year there mostly drunk in any spare time.Got out went nuts became a threat to socitey Never took a sober breath for about a year wound up in VA mental ward spent 30 days there.Got out hung together with threads delt drugs for bout 2years .Got marrid had first baby get born quit dealing cleaned up act. Marriage lasted bout 6yrs wife divorced me left me with 6 mt old daughter an 5 yr old son Raised them they are good people now.Got marrid to an angel 14 years ago Probally saved my life has been helping me with the bottle .But is still a battle.Brothers I want to thank all of you again and Mark an extra thanks for creating this home for us it has been a god send for me And where am I at in my life now HOME ! I"M HOME! THANK GOD! George
USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 09:28:57 (MDT)
Ray, your bio is great. I read it with much interest .Your history is now part of the 129th written record history.
USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 07:42:55 (MDT)
RAYB HERE.. WAS BORN IN FEB OF 49 WENT THREW SCHOOL GOT OUT IN 68. I GIESS IT TOOK SO LONG CAUSE I LIKE THE 3RD AND 4TH GRADE I STAID THERE TWICE,BUT I GUESS IT PAID OFF IN THE TONG RUN,FOR IF I HAD MOVED ON LIKE WAS SOPOSED TO. I WOULD HAVE NEVER MET GAIL. I MET HER WHEN I WAS IN THE 12tH GRADE , SHE WAS IN THE 11th. WE MET AT A DANCE ON NOVEBER 18th 1967 AT A DANCE I REALY NEVER WANTED TO GO TO.BUT I WENT AND WE MET, WE DANCED AND DID A LOT OF TALKING, AND FROM THAT DAY ON, ITS BEEN ME AND HER SINCE. AFTER I GOT OF HIGH SCHOOL,I GOT IN TROUBLE GOT CAUGHT WITH SOME POT. ABOUT A 1/2 POUND OF IT, I REALY DIDNT SMOME MUCH BUT FOUND I COULD MAKE MONEY OFF IT, BACK THEN IT WAS 15$ A OZ BUT WENT TO COURT THE JUDGE SAID IF WENT IN THE ARMY HE WIPE MY RECORD CLEAN. MY MOM TOLD ME TO GO IN, SO OCT OF 68 AFTER I GRADUATED IN JUNE OF 68 OFF I WENT. WAS TRAINED TO DO POL BUT GOT TO THE 129TH GOT CALLED IN TO CO OFFICE, HE ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO BE A DOOR GUNNER' I ASKE WHAT WAS THAT. HE SAID YOU SIT IN A HELICOPTER AND SHOOT A A M 60 ITS LIKE A MACHINE GUN. WELL AT 20 YEARS OLD AND NEVER FLEW BEFORE IT SOUNDED GOOD TO ME WHAT A SUPRISE AT THE END, WENN AFTER I CAME HOME ON LEAVE ME AND GAIL WERE MARRIED MAY 2RD , KRISS WAS BORN DEC 12 1970. THEN HAD TO GO TO FT RUCKER AL. FRIST WEEK THERE THEY WENT IN THE FIELD TO PLAY WAR GAMES. FLIPED ME OUT, I WENT TO THE CO TOLD HIM I DON'T WANT TO PLAY, I JUST CAAME BACK FROM A REAL ONE, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH ME, BUT IAM NOT PLAYING. THEY DROVE ME BACK TO THE CO, WHERE I PULED KP FOR THE REST OF THE COMPAY TILL THEY GOT BACK, GOT ALNG WEIHE THE MESS SGT I GUESS HE UNDER STOOD ME. BUT FINILY I HAD TO GET OUT OF THERE' TESTS SHOWED THAT HRIS HAD WATER ON THE BRAIN, AND I WAS ABOUT TO GET OUT AND I HAD 6 MONTHS TO GO AND I COULD NOT TAKE ANY MORE TIME THERE SO WENT TO FT BLITS TEX. TO A NIKE SIGHT SHORTLY AFTER THEY SAID I SIT AND CRY. SENT ME TO A SHRIN WAS PUT AWAY FOR ABOUT A WEEK TO 10 DAYS, THEN REALESED BUT SATAYED IN TES FOR 8 MONTHS FO SOME REASON. THEN OFF TO EDGEWOOD ARSENAL. ONCE THER I WAS NOT EVEN ALLOWED ON POST. HAD TO SEE MANY SHRINKS THEN AND STILL DO. IS THIS A BIO BUT IAM DOING MUCH BETTER NOW FROM ALL OF YOU AND I THAN YOU AND MY WIFE FOR HANGING INTHER WITH ME, SORRY IF THIS WAS LONG, BUT YOU ASKED TO TELL ABOUT YOUR SELF JUST BEING HONEST OH SPELLING WAS NOT MY FAVORIT SUBJUCT AS YOU SEE,TO BE HONEST I NEVER THOUGHT I NEED IT BOY I WAS WRONG WELL THATS ME. AND IF I COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE THIBGS I CHANGE NOTHING NOTHING. FOR JUST ONE CHANGE IN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPEN NOW IAM HAPPY I MEET ALL OF YOU, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING THAT Happened. ( THEY GOT THE CAP MAKER TO CLOSE OT THE (A), IS THE DAY I FOUND AND GOT TO TALK TO YOU ALL AND GO TO THE RE-UNION. MARK I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTING THIS ALL TOGRTGER FOR ALL OF US' I DON'T POST MUCH AND SORRY IAM SAYING SO MUCH. BUT YOU ARE ALL TRULY ARE MY BROTHES AND SISTERS. A BROTHER ALWAYS . RAY I HOPE THIS BIO IS OK OR DID I SAY TO NUCH SORRY IF I DID
MD USA - Friday, August 06, 2004 at 06:08:11 (MDT)
Sanity Check Read this question, come up with an answer and then scroll down the bottom for the result. This is not a trick question. All the information you need is provided in the four sentences below. No one I know has gotten it right. A woman, while at the funeral of her mother, met this guy whom she did not know. She thought the guy was amazing, her dream man! She fell in love with him instantly, but never asked for his phone number and could not find him after the funeral. A few days later she killed her sister. Question: What is her motive in killing her sister? (Give this some thought before you answer) then scroll down for the answer. >> >> >> Answer: She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again. If You answered this correctly, then you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American psychologist used to test if someone has the same mentality as a killer. If you didn't answer the question correctly, good for you - you're mostly normal. If you got the answer correct, please let me know so I can take you off of my email list unless that will tick you off, then I'll just be extra nice to you from now on . | |
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 23:05:42 (MDT)
"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question."
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 18:16:56 (MDT)
Mark Here.....B/day.4/15/51..income tax day, Titanic sanf, and me. Trouble comes in threes I guess.......raised in the same town Dee and I live in now, Coldwater Ohio. population,5,000. Childhood was pretty much all American heartland living.Green grass lots of corn and beans a growin' and just plain ole small town ride in the country, drink beer, get caught and get sent home and do it all over again the next weekend. Went to school here up until after the final football game of my last year. Walked out and never looked back, Thats the only reason I went to school was to play football.Now wish I would of done it different, but oh well. Always told the kids dont do what I did. Besides, I had a good job working for dad and had already signed up for the Marines right after Larry was killed September of that year. 1969. Did everything I could to be sure that I would be shipped out to Vietnam so I could get even with the lil' people that took Larry away. Was awarded a promotion and my Dress Blues out of Parris Island. 6 months later , thought I was finally on my way to Vietnam when my trip was haulted on Okinawa. Stayed there for 6 months and got out. Married Dee in 72, 3 daughters,all married, 3 grandkids( the apples of our eye).It was a womans wolrd in my house. I did'nt even stand up to take a leak anymore. I sat down like everybody else did;-)....and women complain about having one period a month. Shoot, I went through 4 a month. I even was the one that had to by the things. ...... Had bad boughts with the bottle. Real bad. Finally figured it all out last year and am living for the Lord now. Life is good............I found you all..................love you guys..Mark
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 13:14:17 (MDT)
MAX.....would be great to have the "SEARCH TIPS"..........Forgot to say Gently, Diane, Melody, Kathren,David,Tom and others connected in other ways other then being "In Country"............It is heart warming to have you here. Not only to me, but I know that it means a lot to the 129th'ers...........God Bless...Mark
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 11:49:04 (MDT)
GALE: Yes, I probably could give a few pointers on finding people. Let me think about it, then I'll post some tips, if the group would like.
Oregon USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 09:29:14 (MDT)
Alvis: Born in Columbus, GA, family moved a few years later to Miami, FL, then in late grade school my folks divorce and mom moved us to Portland, OR. Ran away as a teen to Opelika, AL, to live with my dad, then ran away again and worked on a shrimp boat out of Key West, FL. Was too sea sick to stay on shrimp boat long, so went to live with relatives in Aiken, SC, then we moved to San Antonio, TX, where I finished high school. I guess it's easiest to say I was born and raised in the U.S.A.! Max
Oregon USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 09:26:39 (MDT)
a huey was shot down in irag today. crew rescued. those birds are Still taking care of their crews.My respect for those ships are imense.
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 08:32:08 (MDT)
urban hermit. Thats the first time I have seen that phrase. It fits,so simple yet says so much.Thank you max. I bet that phrase could be worn by many nam vets.Oh ,max, just for my couristy, where were you from/ raised?That is interesting. Gale, one of these days off, I want to come see your car.My uncle baought and has been restoring an old ford truck,chain drive,,about a 1915 or so. it isnt the pick up ,its the next size up..loke an old farm truck.
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 07:52:02 (MDT)
Max, that's great. Maybe Alvis hit on something here. Who's next?? Sounds like you've had an interesting life as an investigator. Maybe you could give us some pointers on finding some lost comrads!? This "internet thang" still blows this old mind.....from Indiana to Oregon to ? C'mon guys (and gals),lets make Alvis happy! ;o))) Clear, Gale
USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 06:54:18 (MDT)
ALVIS (et al): since my birthday is next week, I'll go ahead and do a short bio, though I'm not sure what you want. I'll be 58, and am now retired. I joined the Army soon out of high-school in January of '65, and volunteered for 'Nam as soon as I could. I went there by troop ship in Sept of '65 with a missile outfit (somewhat funny story about it at: http://www.mystae.com/reflections/vietnam/hawks.html), and extended my tour by six months to get into the 129th, which happened in early '66. I flew as a gunner, primarily on 868, until we got shot down and the ship destroyed. I made PFC on the troop ship on the way over, and came home a SGT E-5. I DEROSed in March of '67, and spent the last nine months of my service as a drill instructor and captain of my company's pistol and rifle team, at Ft. Polk, LA. My main career after the service was first in law enforcement, then I went private as a licensed private investigator for 26 years, until taking early retirement, just recently. (Just tonight I solved my last case: a missing person locate that I've been working on for nine months.) I've been divorced for many years, have never had any children, and now live very comfortably in my new mobile home with my two great cats, in the beautiful state of Oregon. I'm an *urban hermit,* and spend most of my time alone, fishing, remodeling, gardening, a bit of service work, and taking care of my elderly parents. God has been very good to me, all things considered. Hope this is what you had in mind.
Max W. <slick868@(remove this)easystreet.com>
Beaverton, Oregon USA - Thursday, August 05, 2004 at 00:36:52 (MDT)
chuckling. lz kokomo 7 (weeks)
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 11:01:05 (MDT)
Alvis, I'll have to send you a before & after pic of my car. No, I don't play any...couldn't if I tried now. I still have my original "accordian" that I took lessons with back in the 50's tho. Maybe I could bring it to Kokomo and entertain Gently...she gets so bored. ;o) Gale
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 10:25:08 (MDT)
Alvis, I'll have to send you a before & after pic of my car. No, I don't play any...couldn't if I tried now. I still have my original "accordian" that I took lessons with back in the 50's tho. Maybe I could bring it to Kokomo and entertain Gently...she gets so bored. ;o) Gale
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 10:25:05 (MDT)
oh, my first real car ( that acutally was road worthy) was a 48 plymouth,special delux, drove it to highschool.
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 10:12:49 (MDT)
great job Gale. Now thats what I call some input, chuckle. Gale, there is an "old car" junk yard off of Washington street (west).I have seen a few old,dodge.plymouths junkers around. will keep an eye out. Keyboards huh? You still play?
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 10:11:27 (MDT)
OK Alvis, I just turned 62 on May 27th, born in 1942 here in Clinton, Indiana (75 miles west of Indy). I was married in 1964 and drafted in 1966. Took basic at Ft Knox, Ky then on to Ft Rucker. Arrived in Nam the end of May 1967 at Na Trang and then flew to Dong Ba Thin with the 129th AHC and on to Lane Field. I was 67n20 and I was crewchief for a while before going to 2nd plt maint. Got home May 1968 and went to Ft Campbell,Ky where I worked at the airfield with the Civil Service Crew and lived off post with my wife. Divorced in 1975, remarried in 1977 and (helped raise my stepdaughter) then divorced in 1997. Debbie and I were married 4 months ago and I'm sure we will stay that way!! I worked as a Postal Window Clerk and retired in 2000 with 32 1/2 years service. I played keyboard in a local rock band for a few years in the early 70's then hung it up. I've always been a Ford man, but, I just bought a 1947 Plymouth 2dr Sedan to get back on the road....anyone out there with any parts? I hope I did'nt put anyone to sleep. Who's next? Brothers Forever! Gale
Gale Beard 67-68
Clinton, In US of A - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 09:54:02 (MDT)
Fred, a virus is on it's way:>)) Your idea of bio's is very cool. I'm in....but I might be fluffing things up a bit:>)), kinda like Sue H is already doing..."love at first sight," girl!!!! It was love at first bite the way I understand it! LOL!! Smitty, enjoy Sturgis:the city, not the unclothed females. Remember your heart! Dave, see you in TX, OK? Always there for our Veterans-Gently
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 09:47:17 (MDT)
well flight, a few months ago I ask about floks giving a short bio on themselves somewhere near their birthdays.Not only will this give us a chance to better understand one another but perhaps it would be a good tool for someone researching the 129 or the war. We are of deverse backgrounds,economic,social,color,education,drafted or volunteered,what were doing today,perhaps how the war has impacted our lives or those around us..just anything one wants to be known.My birthday in this month and sone I will, with your permission, give my bio.It will be somewhat short.dont want anyone dropping off to sleep.I hope all will follow when your month comes along.We are ,after all, the history of the 129th ahc.In the case of those brothers that have fallen,hopefully someone will step in and write what they know.Just by comming into this site, we are still making history of the 129th.reguardless of writting ability ( or spelling,smile) I think it might be kind of cool or at least intreresting. WHAT YOU SAY FOLKS? oh, as some others have impacted this site and or impacted/influnced those that where with us,they bios would be welcome as well. yea or nay? give me some imput please.
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 09:12:00 (MDT)
max, ridgid makes very good tools. The table saw should give years and years of good service.
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 08:16:55 (MDT)
My 129ther is in Nebraska this week attending a funeral of an elderly aunt. Work prevented me from going along. I miss my vet! Smitty, Jim and I met at Okoboji Iowa. It is a beautiful lake. Okoboji has an online camera that takes pics at regularly intervals and puts them on the site. Lots of vacation information on that site, too. Jim got home from VietNam in February, we met in June and married the following April. Love at first sight; not sure we thought that at the time....it just "felt right". Thirty-five years later we're still enjoying being together. Alex, we're praying for you. Maybe you need to move that computer downstairs for a while. We miss you posting. Gale, tell Debbie I think of her every day when I put the bracelet on. Gently, good to see you posting again regularly.
Jim & Sue H.
USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 06:19:29 (MDT)
Hello flight. I haven't posted in a while, and just thought I'd drop in a short message to let you know all is well here. Am still trying to get used to being in early retirementI keep feeling that I'm screwing off and should be working, even when I'm drenched in sweat from digging postholes, pounding on fence boards, digging ditches, etc.... Am also suffering from sticker shock from just purchasing a new Ridgid table sawwhen did things get so damned expensive??? Garden is doing well, cats are doing well, remodeling of my new mobile home and new landscaping are going slowly but steadily. Only been out fishing once this year, so far, but just put new lights on my boat trailer and spruced up the boat (which the guys at the lumber store refer to as my "v-hull utility trailer..."), so will be getting out again soon, and often, I hope. Good to see all the commo, and a few new 'faces.' Weather in my part of Oregon had been unusually hot, though is now back to normal: mid-eighties most days, and nice and dry. VA has been treating me well; my primary doctor has been a God-sendshe gets things done very quickly whenever I have any problem or question. Will check back in later and see how things are going with ya'll. Bite and Strike! Max
Max <slick868@(remove this)easystreet.com>
Oregon USA - Wednesday, August 04, 2004 at 00:10:22 (MDT)
Lee- thank you for thinking of me and sending along the stone from Indy. I wish I could have gone, but personal circumtances prohibited me from attending. Hopefully things will settle down here in GA and I can make TX. Brother Mark, thanks for having my back and giving Lee my address, I look forward to receiving it. Hope all is well there my friend and please keep in touch via email or phone. Thanks for serving vets and welcome home. ~D
David Wells <dswells62@bellsouth,net>
Roswell, GA USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 23:38:30 (MDT)
Hi all, I just returned from being gone 15 days, out to Calif. etc., got to see a lot of neat things. Have tried to catch up on the posts. If any of you have not gotten pics, please send me another note. I sent a batch just before i left & only hope they made it. Will be glad to send again. Diane Strother, was glad to do it & the postage was not necessary.Love & respects to you & thanks for the nice card. I am running a full Norton Security system & it is removing the Netsky virus from e-mails. Help can also be obtained at getvirushelp.com . This is a site associated with mcafee & has cleaners for some viruses. check it out. Getting ready for the ride to Sturgis Monday. Kal, i don't know if i told you but on the ride back, i came right through spirit lake & storm lake Iowa. They are very beautiful & if you want to see the plant for Victory, you could do it in conjunction with a vacation. I want to go back there myself. At Indy, we talked of establishing a fund or several. Any news on this?? Alex, I'm sorry to hear that you can't get around, get better soon. You are a rock that binds us together. Well, good to be back home again & with all of you>>>> Respects>>> smitty. P.S. i joined at 17, was in nam with the 120th in 1969 a month after turning 18, was crewing 1st ship 3 weeks later. Born June 1951. Got to 129th at age 20 & was crewing shortly after due to experience. Young huh??>>> later
Jim Westwang 71-72
sheridan, wy USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 20:44:26 (MDT)
Im jealouse, kal was sent a virus and I wasnt....Im telling mom.
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 18:36:22 (MDT)
Sounds good Rick. Thanks Gale I am going to try. Be careful out there
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 16:39:57 (MDT)
If anyone has a virus you can download a good free antivirus program at www.grisoft.com called AVG, just remember to do an update check every week or so. And at www.norton.com there are many downloadable removal tools and instructions for manual virus removal. Jim will try and give ya a buz tonight.
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 15:25:25 (MDT)
....Brother Ray......Dan Hertlein of the 129th had the patches. His address is in the CONTACTS section.............Howdee to all.........Jim O.......repainted the Cruise pegs OD for the militarty affect. They look good on the bike and have had lots of coments about them..Thanks for them brother...always a brother.......mark
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 13:27:25 (MDT)
HELLO TO ALL. WAS JUST WONDERING HOW ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE DOING WHO ARE IN THE PATH OF THE HURRICAIN WITH ALL THE RAIN. I KNOW JIM OLIVER AND FRENCHIE LIVE OUT THAT WAY AND MANY MORE, WHO NAME I FORGOT SORRY. RICK E DO YOU KNOW HOW I CAN ORDER (1) 129th PATHCH THE KIND THAT GOSE ON THE POCKET AND SAYS BITE AND STRIKE. I NEED TO GET ONE, THANKS. I TRY TO CALL YOU. ROB HOW YOU DOING, HAVE YOU GOT ANY JOBS OFFES YET. ROB HOW IS YOUR BROTHER DOING, WELL JUST WANT TO SAY HI AND SEE WHERE I CAN ORDER A PATCH I WISH YOU ALL WELL OH HELLO GENTLY CANT FORGET YOU HOW ARE THINGS GOING UP THERE HARD TO THINK WINTER WILL BE HERE SOON/ WELL BE SAFE A BROTHER ALWAYS RAY
MD - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 08:58:35 (MDT)
HOPE THIS POST FINDS EVERYONE WELL, AS IN GOOD HEALTH. GUESS I WILL HAVE A BONFIRE AT HOME AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT KOKOMO. MARK, HOW'S THE HIGHWAY PEGS, THEY CHROMED YET. RICK JENSEN HERE GOES MY # <<912 653-3384>>YOU CAN USUALLY CATCH ME HOME EVERY NIGHT, BUT ONLY AFTER DARK. I SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUTSIDE, WITH THE MOWING AND YARDWORK. TAKE CARE ALL MY BROTHERS & SISTERS,,,CLEAR
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 07:32:37 (MDT)
A virus. Kal called me last night and told me he got an email from me that contained a virus. Damn! I thought I was so-o careful. So, if you get an email from me that when you open it it says "Thanks," it's not from me and please delete it immediately. The virus is W32.netsky.p@mm. And Kal, I have your "Yahoo" address, not any of the others. I'm sorry everyone. Kokomo: Kal is not sure he can make it. He has taken alot of time off from work lately, including time to go to the re-union, but he will try his hardest. Alex....Geez! Hugs to all-Gently
USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 06:39:35 (MDT)
Talked to Alex yesterday, he can't get up the stairs to the computer so he ask me to tell everyone HI and he is thinking of us
Indy, USA - Tuesday, August 03, 2004 at 05:09:36 (MDT)
Mark I live about 45min south of Olathe on 69 highway. Wife and son are up there now going to johnson county libary.Small world Take care brother George
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 18:21:02 (MDT)
got my fingers crossed for you rick. Gale, what you mean dont sit next to alvis? you know I have to have someone to lean on when I have to much of that welcome home juice.Hey mark, Whats happened to "pop a top sue"? she doesnt post anymore.She coming to lz kokomo? Would be fun to meet her.( I also think kokomo would blow her away in reguards to all the vets deep in brotherhood)Just heard from a pilot i flew with when I was with the 60th ahc down at ninh hoa.As most of you know, I have also been looking for any of those guys.Not one has ever appeared at any reunion i know of.I told him about kokomo . He lives in mich. so he just might drive down.I also invited him to stop by this site. As far as writting goes, I stopped in the "stories" section the other day. There is some great writting in there, puts my humble attempts to shame.cups and lurch are right on,so is don.
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 16:06:39 (MDT)
Maybe some good news. Put in for an increase for my service connected disability and I talked with the State Veterans office and was told they were sending me a non employalbe form to return so I am thinking that my disability % will increase. Said I should receive the paperwork in a few days. Made me fell alot better and boosted my confidence in VA system a bunch. Will let you know more as it progresses.
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 15:52:09 (MDT)
We will be in Kokomo Gale.....George?.Do you live anywhere near Olathe? Got a sister-in-law in them parts. Her hubby taught at Johnson Co. Comm College. Have been in your parts a few times.......always a brother....mark
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 12:50:50 (MDT)
Alvis, I told you that you were a smooth talker (writer)....good job. I live south of the Army Ammo Plant at Newport,In and I used see a few Hueys & "Shithooks" flying in & out of there. I'm just like everyone else....hear 'em, run out to look, stare with goose bumps, sometimes a slow salute and an occassional tear that wells up in the eye.....who cares what the neighbors think!! Rick, Kokomo is Sept 17-19. Hope you can make it. Kal, you better be there!!!! Mark, I hope you can get off for Kokomo & spend some time with us around the campfire.....just be careful not to sit next to Alvis! :o] Clear, Gale
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 11:32:10 (MDT)
What are the dates for Kokomo??????
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 10:21:08 (MDT)
Fred, that was great. I live north of Shelbyville and the National Guard unit that is there still has a few Hueys. I can hear them from inside the house when they fly by and I still run out to watch then until they are out of sight. I went to the airshow Sat. and watched the Army Aviation Group that was in Alanta put on a show. Everyone that was there was standing up through the whole show. I felt sorry for one stunt pilot who was putting on a hell of a show, nobody was watching him, the Hueys & Cobras were starting.
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 09:23:13 (MDT)
Hope all are good. I live south of kansas city and for some reason I get choppers fairly regular And they always draw me out to watch and I hear them before any body else. Guess after all these years my ears are still tuned to that do wop wop.All take care.George
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 08:57:44 (MDT)
Fred A......Wow man, great non-fiction, what chapter in the book is that in? Through you guys I have learned to also be aware of that sound and to search it out in the sky. To call it out befor anybody else hears it. To rise out of the chair and rush to the door to get outside and also watch it pass until out of sight. "I was'nt there, but I still care" God Bless you all............Mark
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 08:41:54 (MDT)
.Well..............here I set. Back working for my Dad...the prodiclal son has returned. Or is it the Bad Penny that keeps showing up?............I must admit, due to the fact that Dad and I have a different relationship now it is a better thing. Our son-in-law, who worked here also, is my boss;-)..he has me doing some tecnical updates in training for the Mechanics in the shop. Thus, me on the computer.The only other job I have done so far is take to meat out to the Rotwilers. They have forgotten who I am and I need to remind them not to take a chunck out of my rearend..........what a nice house we keep on the Flight Log Book.......will talk more later.....Love you all..Mark
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 08:34:44 (MDT)
Mr. Alvis..."honey do" write some more:>) C.P.! You and Fred are developing a friendship that will last forever: such honesty and respect, and displayed so humbly for all of us to share in. As the pin that Ray hands to everyone says, "brothers forever." Ann-Always a pleasure. I read an article in our local newspaper about a Chris Buslee. Any relation, Gramma? Melody!!!!! Yeah! You're putting out such an effort for your grandfather-your wings are showing. I couldn't open the link to you photo, can you send it to me at my email. Alex, Bud, Don, how about some health updates. Rick, Kokokmo this year? With eyes toward Kokomo-Gently
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 07:03:59 (MDT)
thanks , but stop it, you guys are making me blush. You know, its funny about the sound of those blades. I think all of us can still remember the tones also. Like a mother listening to her child screams or cries, we still can tell the differance between an "easy end of mission approach and the hurried approach when something is amiss.Or am I just remembering it wrong?
USA - Monday, August 02, 2004 at 04:30:57 (MDT)
Alvis, I think we all stop and watch, it is a sound that is so deeply imbeded in our souls that we can't help it. and the smile ??? I call it my Mona Lisa smile caus very few people have any idea what is going on in my mind at the time. and for the record .... you should write a book you really do have a way with words.Later, Don
Valley Farms, AZ USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 20:24:41 (MDT)
I saw it..I saw it!!!! Alvis, like I said once B4, I don't know why you aren't a rich and famous writer.. I saw it... C U... Kal...>>>
Saint Joseph, MI USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 16:50:53 (MDT)
was mowing the lawn last week when I heard a sound over the wrecthed noise of that sweat machine I was pushing.Its been awhile,wasnt sure but deep down I knew the truth.I turned off the blue smoke producing,heat attack inducing,grass chopping,fiend ,lawn lowerer.I listened for only a few seconds then my eyes went to the skies,searching.The sun was shinning brightly,me in the middle of the back yard,just standing,looking up into the skies.I must have looked like a nut.But then i saw it,a small speck in the sky,slowly growing closer.wop ,wop ,wop ,I knew that sound.I smiled that little smile we do when something inside of us responds to a fond memory.Standing in the sun and heat,alone,I watched that huey fly closer. As it grew abreast of me in the sky , I smiled a huge smile.A smile of seeing a long lost friend, a smile of 30 plus years of memory.I dont know where it came from, but i found myself throwing the helicopter and its crew a short,respectful,sloppy salute. Oh how I envied that crew.The feeling of cool vietnam skies passed over me,I could even smell it.The ship spoke to me in its wop,wop voice.Remember me it ask? my smile answered. I sadly watched as it flew past then out of sight.I kept looking where it had dissappeared over the tree tops,still listening to the blades as the cut and flopped thru the air.When it was gone,I sighed,but still had that little smile on my face.If neighbors had seen me, they would have wondered.I could not have explained about "some stupid helicopter" flying over,as we have ever day from the news channels here.how can you explain a diamond lying amonst a pile of rubies.Like me, that helicopter is old and getting toward its end of useful days.I restarted my wifes favorite "honey do's",but i smiled as the blue smoke drifted away in the gentle breeze.What a good day that was.
USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 14:32:17 (MDT)
Hi again! My computer has been down and I'm not too handy when it comes to straightening things out. And then, summer has always been a hectic time for me. So I've dropped out of the loop for awhile. But trying to catch up with the site this morning was like going home. You guys (and girls) talk so openly and honestly about things close to your heart that I'm really blown away. Tom would have loved this site. He always wore his heart on his sleeve, anyway. And most of what you are sharing is the stuff life's really about. I gain so much just from dropping in. There's a website I want you to check out: www.swiftboatsbrotherhood.com. Nam vets are really rallying to get to the truth. You'll be proud of yourselves if you take a peek. Signing off for a week...family reunion, and this time I'm the gramma! God Bless, Ann
Ann Buslee <email@example.com>
Ladysmith, Wi. USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 11:01:18 (MDT)
Alex finaly got my computer on line again. Hope this finds you well and having more success with your foot. Sounds like everyone had a great time at the reuanion, wish dI could have been there. I an thinging about going to Kokomo in Sept. if things work out right. I was laid off in July so I should have time. Will go for now, talk again later.
Roger L Cress <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sherrills Ford , fdNC 28673 USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 10:26:25 (MDT)
Gale, found a web site that might interest you. Havent looked into it a great deal yet. diynetwork.com.
USA - Sunday, August 01, 2004 at 08:23:35 (MDT)